EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

    >
    >
    > Robert J Carpenter wrote:
    >
    >> Isn't there a rec.travel.usa (or north_america or something) that
    >> would be a better fit?
    >> BTW, 300 miles per day seems awfully low unless you have planned a
    >> number of interesting sights to see along the way. 300 miles is
    >> around 5 hours or less on an Interstate highway.
    >
    >
    > You don't consider five hours a day quite sufficient time to be cooped
    > up in a car on an interstate? I did it once, years ago, and vowed never
    > again! Having made advance reservations for motels that accepted pets,
    > I was tied into my itinerary, but it really was a bit too much for just
    > one driver. (I was relocating, hence traveling with two cats, so I
    > couldn't simply stop when I got tired.)
snip


I guess that like most things it depends on personal tastes. About 4
years ago I was on a long business trip. One morning I arose early in
Albany NY and decided that I had been away from home too long. I spent
the next night in a motel but for the second I was in my own bed in
Houston, TX. When trying to get to a destination and not simply
wandering and visiting interesting things I find 600 miles per day a
much better estimate.

    > do you think that someone who can't correctly work out which
    > group to post in, will understand this jargon?
Yep, I understand the jargon but additionally posted here deliberately ...
the people WHO want to travel TO Europe are what? AMERICANS
the people who post in travel to US and Canada are from guess where ...
somewhere else than AMERICANS :)

Additionally the groups rec.travel.usa-canada alt.travel.usa-canada are
just plenty of any OT unrelated to visiting US/Canada ... :) so thanks for
pointing out but I am just very happy posting here ...

Cheers,
Giovanni

"Runge" <[email protected]> wrote
    > None as this OT
    > But that is a concept you don't seem to grasp, do you?
    > OT OT OT OT OT OT
    > Try repeating it to yourself during a couple of hours.
    > Your fav medic,
You don't have a life if your concept of having fun is fishing
OT in ng? :)

See you in miami ...

Giovanni

I was sure divatruc would answer a thread about the US...
Gagné !

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news: [email protected]...
    > Robert J Carpenter wrote:
    >> Isn't there a rec.travel.usa (or north_america or something) that
    >> would be a better fit?
    >> BTW, 300 miles per day seems awfully low unless you have planned a
    >> number of interesting sights to see along the way. 300 miles is
    >> around 5 hours or less on an Interstate highway.
    > You don't consider five hours a day quite sufficient time to be cooped up
    > in a car on an interstate? I did it once, years ago, and vowed never
    > again! Having made advance reservations for motels that accepted pets, I
    > was tied into my itinerary, but it really was a bit too much for just one
    > driver. (I was relocating, hence traveling with two cats, so I couldn't
    > simply stop when I got tired.)
    >> I hope you are at least 25 years of age, otherwise I think you'll have
    >> trouble renting that kind of car. Be sure to check when you reserve.
    >> Have a pleasant trip,
    >> rc
    >> "Giovanni Azua" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>>Hi all,
    >>>Soon I will be arriving to US for the first time and for a
    >>>period of a month and would like to make the following
    >>>trip by car:
    >>>I will arrive to miami Lauderdale, stay with my family and
    >>>friends for a while then rent a Mustang convertible or Ford
    >>>Thunderbird convertible and visit:
    >>>- From Miami to Orlando 234.24 miles (have family to stay there).
    >>>- From Orlando to Dallas Texas 1137.38 miles (have friends to stay
    >> there).
    >>>- From Dallas to Kentucky 300.92 miles (have girlfriend there :)).
    >>>- From Kentucky to New York 1260.67 miles (will stay in hotel ...
    >>> recommendations?)
    >>>- Will stay in NY for 4 to 6 days and then go from New York back to
    >>> Miami 1297.30 miles
    >>>Don't know yet if will be driving alone or with a friend ...
    >>>How much would you expect I would be expending in gasoline and
    >>>hotel stays on the way while traveling (taking a sleep stop every
    >> 300
    >>>miles) and considering the hotel stay in NY roughly?
    >>>Many thanks in advance,
    >>>Best Regards,
    >>>Giovanni
    >

Yes my american friend
Let us whine upon such stupidity.
You are welcome to join, if you are not too busy praying in your local
church.

"Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message
de news: [email protected]...
    > Earl Evleth wrote:
    >> On 9/10/05 15:19, in article [email protected],
    >> "Runge" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Good question for this group !
    >>>Thank you for asking and no doubt the usual people will be answering that
    >>>one.
    >>>Mrs Diva will undoubtely share some private fond memories about
    >>>travelling
    >>>in that WONDERFUL country !
    >>>evleth will tell you all about the weather and flu disease in north
    >>>Florida.
    >>>Martin will share a few jokes and newport will ...duh...ask if Miami is a
    >>>suburb of Caernavon.
    >>>Get set for more fun !
    >> And what contribution will you make?
    > Constant whining.
    >

Hi all,

I really appreciate the feedback and came to the conclusion
that I am just better off just finding a good airfare. I just talked
over the phone to my uncle in miami and he says it is totally
out of question traveling by car e.g. to NY in the middle of
the winter.

Many thanks for your very valuable support!

Kindest Regards,
Giovanni

"Giovanni Azua" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi all,
    > Soon I will be arriving to US for the first time and for a
    > period of a month and would like to make the following
    > trip by car:
    > I will arrive to miami Lauderdale, stay with my family and
    > friends for a while then rent a Mustang convertible or Ford
    > Thunderbird convertible and visit:
    > - From Miami to Orlando 234.24 miles (have family to stay there).
    > - From Orlando to Dallas Texas 1137.38 miles (have friends to stay there).
    > - From Dallas to Kentucky 300.92 miles (have girlfriend there :)).
    > - From Kentucky to New York 1260.67 miles (will stay in hotel ...
    > recommendations?)
    > - Will stay in NY for 4 to 6 days and then go from New York back to
    > Miami 1297.30 miles
    > Don't know yet if will be driving alone or with a friend ...
    > How much would you expect I would be expending in gasoline and
    > hotel stays on the way while traveling (taking a sleep stop every 300
    > miles) and considering the hotel stay in NY roughly?
    > Many thanks in advance,
    > Best Regards,
    > Giovanni
    >

Hi Frank!

"Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote
    > I guess that like most things it depends on personal tastes. About 4
    > years ago I was on a long business trip. One morning I arose early in
    > Albany NY and decided that I had been away from home too long. I spent
    > the next night in a motel but for the second I was in my own bed in
    > Houston, TX. When trying to get to a destination and not simply wandering
    > and visiting interesting things I find 600 miles per day a much better
    > estimate.
I did this exactly 5 weeks ago ... went from Zurich CH to Paris by car
and the way to Paris (first time) was very very exciting, however the coming
back
was just plain awful, got a terrible rain on the way back. The distance
Zurich-Paris is around 600 miles.

Best Regards,
Giovanni

"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> And I second the suggestion to visit Washington.
    > A good tourist spot, you can even visit the White House!
    > I liked the Smithsonian and the National Gallery of Art.
    > One can visit Mount Vernon which is not far from Washington DC.
    > I enjoyed the jade collection at either the Smithsonian or
    > National Gallery, and also the stamp collection, which has some
    > rare items.
Thanks for the tip I will consider it in my trip :)

Regards,
Giovanni

Hi Keith,

Many thanks for the very helpful information!

Cheers,
Giovanni

"Keith W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Giovanni Azua" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Hi all,
    > Try posting this to rec.travel.usa-canada
    >> Soon I will be arriving to US for the first time and for a
    >> period of a month and would like to make the following
    >> trip by car:
    >> I will arrive to miami Lauderdale, stay with my family and
    >> friends for a while then rent a Mustang convertible or Ford
    >> Thunderbird convertible and visit:
    > You will have a hard time getting either of those vehicles
    > as a convertible at a rental location , rental companies rarely
    > guarantee the exact make, you can ask for a convertible and
    > it may be a Mustang but more likely they'll offer you a
    > a Sebring.
    > If you get a convertible be sure to have them show you
    > how to raise the hood. You dont want to try and learn in the
    > middle of a thunderstorm.
    > Be aware that US car rental sites dont include more than
    > minimal insurance in their advertised rates and that
    > buying extra insurance at the rental counter can add
    > more than $20 per day to the rates. If you organise
    > the car rental with a European agent these insurances
    > are usually already included.
    >> - From Miami to Orlando 234.24 miles (have family to stay there).
    >> - From Orlando to Dallas Texas 1137.38 miles (have friends to stay
    >> there).
    >> - From Dallas to Kentucky 300.92 miles (have girlfriend there :)).
    > Its WAY more than 300 miles from Dallas to Kentucky
    > Dallas to Louisville is over 800 miles
    >> - From Kentucky to New York 1260.67 miles (will stay in hotel ...
    >> recommendations?)
    >> - Will stay in NY for 4 to 6 days and then go from New York back to
    >> Miami 1297.30 miles
    > You may want to allow for a 2-3 day stay in Washington DC
    > since you will be passing it anyway, the Hotel Harrington is
    > a good budget choice and they have reasonably priced
    > parking.
    >> Don't know yet if will be driving alone or with a friend ...
    >> How much would you expect I would be expending in gasoline and
    >> hotel stays on the way while traveling (taking a sleep stop every 300
    >> miles) and considering the hotel stay in NY roughly?
    > Budget for $80 per night for low-mid end motels and $120-$150 for NYC
    > You should get around 30mpg so around $25 per day for gas
    > and say $40 for food etc should cover it.
    > Keith
    >

On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 21:24:32 +0200, "Giovanni Azua" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >> do you think that someone who can't correctly work out which
    >> group to post in, will understand this jargon?
    >Yep, I understand the jargon but additionally posted here deliberately ...
    >the people WHO want to travel TO Europe are what? AMERICANS
    >the people who post in travel to US and Canada are from guess where ...
    >somewhere else than AMERICANS :)
    >Additionally the groups rec.travel.usa-canada alt.travel.usa-canada are
    >just plenty of any OT unrelated to visiting US/Canada ... :) so thanks for
    >pointing out but I am just very happy posting here ...
    >Cheers,
    >Giovanni

Don't sell the U.S.-Canada newsgroup short. All groups have plenty of
OT messages. I have numerous threads from this group in my kill file:)

The people in the U.S. travel group go to great lengths to assist people
with their upcoming trips. It is a good resource.

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005, Giovanni Azua wrote:

    > Yep, I understand the jargon but additionally posted here deliberately ...
    > the people WHO want to travel TO Europe are what? AMERICANS
    > the people who post in travel to US and Canada are from guess where ...
    > somewhere else than AMERICANS :)

The travel groups are divided according to the place being visited, not
according to the origin of the visitors. That's the only division that
makes any sense.

    > Additionally the groups rec.travel.usa-canada alt.travel.usa-canada are
    > just plenty of any OT unrelated to visiting US/Canada

I don't know whether rec.travel.usa-canada is full of off-topic posts that
have nothing to do with travelling in the USA and Canada, but if it's so,
it's certainly no reason to do the same and make posts in
rec.travel.europe that have nothing to do with travel in Europe.

Follow-ups set to rec.travel.usa-canada.

--
Yves Bellefeuille <[email protected]>
"America is less a beacon of hope than a dangerous force to be
countered." -- US State Department

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:43:24 GMT, Rita <[email protected]> wrote:


    >The people in the U.S. travel group go to great lengths to assist people
    >with their upcoming trips. It is a good resource.

Well said. I've just posted a question on there (about taking a
student group to NYC in March 2006) and I've already received some
excellent and informative replies.

rec.travel.usa-canada helped me enormously when I was planning a trip
to New England in 2002.



Keith, Bristol, UK

DE-MUNG for email replies

"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BF6F18A9.7CE4F%[email protected]...
    > On 9/10/05 18:32, in article [email protected], "Robert
J
    > Carpenter" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > And I second the suggestion to visit Washington.
    > A good tourist spot, you can even visit the White House!
    > I liked the Smithsonian and the National Gallery of Art.
    > One can visit Mount Vernon which is not far from Washington DC.

One should remember that 65 years ago Washington was hardly more than
modest-sized city with government buildings, some good museums and a
large art gallery about to open. You could walk from the airport to
the center of the city in about a half-hour. You still can walk from
Reagan National to city center in maybe 45 minutes - no streets to
cross until you get into the city itself.

Then the US entered WW2 and the city saw a huge growth which has
continued.There are many, many seem-government workers, people who
work for contractors doing studies for the government. More recently
huge military contractors have moved their administrative headquarters
to the Washington suburbs - usually in Virginia. Dot.com companies
tend to be in the Virginia suburbs while the Maryland suburbs are a
major center of medical research and biotech industry.

But in many ways the area still has some of the small-city aspects. A
couple of years ago I saw a young fellow just 25 feet from the door to
Terminal A, Reagan National Airport, lying under a tree propped up on
his backpack reading a book. I can't imagine that in most other large
cities.

Robert J Carpenter wrote:

    > But in many ways the area still has some of the small-city aspects. A
    > couple of years ago I saw a young fellow just 25 feet from the door to
    > Terminal A, Reagan National Airport, lying under a tree propped up on
    > his backpack reading a book. I can't imagine that in most other large
    > cities.


Yup, I consider DC a town, and not even a very big one at that. Considering
it's world importance it's fairly small - and even somewhat provincial. Of
course that can be considered part of it's "charm"...

It's a "one horse" town (the horse being government); unlike other US cities
DC never had any kind of industrial base and the great waves of immigration
that transformed other places never had much of an impact (until recently,
and that has taken place primarily in the VA and MD suburbs). Even today
it's a somewhat class - conscious and class - stratified place...

New Orleans is (was) the only other US city that has a similar "vibe"...

--
Best
Greg

You do appear to simply whine and complain in this group. Fairly
stupidly as well since you bring it up.




Runge wrote:

    > Yes my american friend
    > Let us whine upon such stupidity.
    > You are welcome to join, if you are not too busy praying in your local
    > church.
    >
    > "Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message
    > de news: [email protected]...
    >
    >>Earl Evleth wrote:
    >>>On 9/10/05 15:19, in article [email protected],
    >>>"Runge" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>Good question for this group !
    >>>>Thank you for asking and no doubt the usual people will be answering that
    >>>>one.
    >>>>Mrs Diva will undoubtely share some private fond memories about
    >>>>travelling
    >>>>in that WONDERFUL country !
    >>>>evleth will tell you all about the weather and flu disease in north
    >>>>Florida.
    >>>>Martin will share a few jokes and newport will ...duh...ask if Miami is a
    >>>>suburb of Caernavon.
    >>>>Get set for more fun !
    >>>And what contribution will you make?
    >>Constant whining.
    >
    >
    >