Travel to Russia
May 20th 2006 | 4:19 am
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Travel to Russia
I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
folks here can help with this question.
We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
river, and three in St. Petersburg.
My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring, but
sometimes other factors are more important.
Any suggestions?
Charles Lewis
folks here can help with this question.
We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
river, and three in St. Petersburg.
My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring, but
sometimes other factors are more important.
Any suggestions?
Charles Lewis
May 20th 2006 | 5:01 am
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Re: Travel to Russia
"Charles Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>folks here can help with this question.
> We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
> Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
> river, and three in St. Petersburg.
> My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
> possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
> difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring,
> but sometimes other factors are more important.
I visited St. Petersburg in June a few years ago and the weather was
lovely - warm, mid-20s in the day, but not stifling, and comfortable for
sleeping at night. The days were looong of course and I loved it.
news:xlHbg.111032$5Z.62559@dukeread02...
>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>folks here can help with this question.
> We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
> Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
> river, and three in St. Petersburg.
> My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
> possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
> difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring,
> but sometimes other factors are more important.
I visited St. Petersburg in June a few years ago and the weather was
lovely - warm, mid-20s in the day, but not stifling, and comfortable for
sleeping at night. The days were looong of course and I loved it.
May 20th 2006 | 6:15 am
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Re: Travel to Russia
I assume that is Celsius, not Fahrenheit?
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> "Charles Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:xlHbg.111032$5Z.62559@dukeread02...
>>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>>folks here can help with this question.
>> We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
>> Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
>> river, and three in St. Petersburg.
>> My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
>> possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
>> difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring,
>> but sometimes other factors are more important.
> I visited St. Petersburg in June a few years ago and the weather was
> lovely - warm, mid-20s in the day, but not stifling, and comfortable for
> sleeping at night. The days were looong of course and I loved it.
>
"Traveller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Charles Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:xlHbg.111032$5Z.62559@dukeread02...
>>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>>folks here can help with this question.
>> We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
>> Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
>> river, and three in St. Petersburg.
>> My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
>> possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
>> difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring,
>> but sometimes other factors are more important.
> I visited St. Petersburg in June a few years ago and the weather was
> lovely - warm, mid-20s in the day, but not stifling, and comfortable for
> sleeping at night. The days were looong of course and I loved it.
>
May 20th 2006 | 6:15 am
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I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of you think
about summer?
"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
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> On Sat, 20 May 2006 12:19:04 -0400, "Charles Lewis"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>>folks here can help with this question.
>>We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
>>Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
>>river, and three in St. Petersburg.
>>My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
>>possible.
> Why on earth would you avoid Russia in summer? It's about the only
> time the temperature is nice, and there isn't an excess of mud and
> snow.
> --
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> DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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about summer?
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> On Sat, 20 May 2006 12:19:04 -0400, "Charles Lewis"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>>folks here can help with this question.
>>We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
>>Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
>>river, and three in St. Petersburg.
>>My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
>>possible.
> Why on earth would you avoid Russia in summer? It's about the only
> time the temperature is nice, and there isn't an excess of mud and
> snow.
> --
> ---
> DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
> ---
> --
May 20th 2006 | 6:21 am
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On Sat, 20 May 2006 12:19:04 -0400, "Charles Lewis"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>folks here can help with this question.
>We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
>Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
>river, and three in St. Petersburg.
>My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
>possible.
Why on earth would you avoid Russia in summer? It's about the only
time the temperature is nice, and there isn't an excess of mud and
snow.
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>folks here can help with this question.
>We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
>Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
>river, and three in St. Petersburg.
>My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
>possible.
Why on earth would you avoid Russia in summer? It's about the only
time the temperature is nice, and there isn't an excess of mud and
snow.
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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May 20th 2006 | 6:45 am
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Charles Lewis wrote:
>
> I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of you think
> about summer?
Definitely re-think your plans!
We were in Russia in July 2004, and we thought the weather was great for
touring: moderate and sunny. During the morning and evening, we wore a
light-weight anorak over our outfit. My outfit may have included an
extra layer (e.g. sleeveless silk cami or a cotton cardigan) but that's
only because I tend to be very cold.
Having slogged our way through Florence more than once in the summer and
Sicily in early June, we now try to head to a northern destination
during summer travel. We did Norway in 2000, and this year, we're
heading to Ireland.
Karen Selwyn
>
> I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of you think
> about summer?
Definitely re-think your plans!
We were in Russia in July 2004, and we thought the weather was great for
touring: moderate and sunny. During the morning and evening, we wore a
light-weight anorak over our outfit. My outfit may have included an
extra layer (e.g. sleeveless silk cami or a cotton cardigan) but that's
only because I tend to be very cold.
Having slogged our way through Florence more than once in the summer and
Sicily in early June, we now try to head to a northern destination
during summer travel. We did Norway in 2000, and this year, we're
heading to Ireland.
Karen Selwyn
May 20th 2006 | 6:48 am
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Karen Selwyn <[email protected]> writes:
> Charles Lewis wrote:
> >
> > I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of
> > you think about summer?
>
> Definitely re-think your plans!
>
> We were in Russia in July 2004, and we thought the weather was great
> for touring: moderate and sunny. During the morning and evening, we
> wore a light-weight anorak over our outfit.
Your (pl) oufit? You were the pantomime horse, then?
In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
monumental folly built on a swamp.
(I neglected to visit - I don't do third-world countries.)
Des
> Charles Lewis wrote:
> >
> > I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of
> > you think about summer?
>
> Definitely re-think your plans!
>
> We were in Russia in July 2004, and we thought the weather was great
> for touring: moderate and sunny. During the morning and evening, we
> wore a light-weight anorak over our outfit.
Your (pl) oufit? You were the pantomime horse, then?
In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
monumental folly built on a swamp.
(I neglected to visit - I don't do third-world countries.)
Des
May 20th 2006 | 9:33 am
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"Charles Lewis" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>folks here can help with this question.
> We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
> Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
> river, and three in St. Petersburg.
> My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
> possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
> difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring,
> but sometimes other factors are more important.
> Any suggestions?
> Charles Lewis
3 days in st.petersburg are too little.
you will need at least 6 days
>
news:xlHbg.111032$5Z.62559@dukeread02...
>I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
>folks here can help with this question.
> We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
> Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
> river, and three in St. Petersburg.
> My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
> possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
> difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring,
> but sometimes other factors are more important.
> Any suggestions?
> Charles Lewis
3 days in st.petersburg are too little.
you will need at least 6 days
>
May 20th 2006 | 12:29 pm
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Charles Lewis wrote:
> I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
> folks here can help with this question.
> We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
> Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
> river, and three in St. Petersburg.
> My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
> possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
> difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring, but
> sometimes other factors are more important.
> Any suggestions?
> Charles Lewis
I have had three trips to Russia (twice as the USSR) including the
river cruise, and I would suggest mid-September to mid-October for the
best weather. Nary a drop of rain on any of the journeys.
> I know Russia isn't really a European destination, but I am betting some
> folks here can help with this question.
> We are planning a trip to Russia next year. We will be going with Grand
> Circle on a river trip, spending three nights in Moscow, about six on the
> river, and three in St. Petersburg.
> My question is when. Definitely not winter! And we avoid the summer when
> possible. Which would be the better time, spring or fall? Or is there a
> difference? In many places, the scenery is much prettier in the spring, but
> sometimes other factors are more important.
> Any suggestions?
> Charles Lewis
I have had three trips to Russia (twice as the USSR) including the
river cruise, and I would suggest mid-September to mid-October for the
best weather. Nary a drop of rain on any of the journeys.
May 21st 2006 | 12:28 am
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On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
>conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
>monumental folly built on a swamp.
WhatTF do you think NL is?
--
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wrote:
>In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
>conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
>monumental folly built on a swamp.
WhatTF do you think NL is?
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May 21st 2006 | 1:53 am
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On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Karen Selwyn <[email protected]> writes:
>> Charles Lewis wrote:
>> >
>> > I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of
>> > you think about summer?
>>
>> Definitely re-think your plans!
>>
>> We were in Russia in July 2004, and we thought the weather was great
>> for touring: moderate and sunny. During the morning and evening, we
>> wore a light-weight anorak over our outfit.
>Your (pl) oufit? You were the pantomime horse, then?
>In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
>conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
>monumental folly built on a swamp.
???
How is St Petersburg a folly? The place is a masterpiece!
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wrote:
>Karen Selwyn <[email protected]> writes:
>> Charles Lewis wrote:
>> >
>> > I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of
>> > you think about summer?
>>
>> Definitely re-think your plans!
>>
>> We were in Russia in July 2004, and we thought the weather was great
>> for touring: moderate and sunny. During the morning and evening, we
>> wore a light-weight anorak over our outfit.
>Your (pl) oufit? You were the pantomime horse, then?
>In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
>conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
>monumental folly built on a swamp.
???
How is St Petersburg a folly? The place is a masterpiece!
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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May 21st 2006 | 4:19 am
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >Karen Selwyn <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> Charles Lewis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of
> >> > you think about summer?
> >>
> >> Definitely re-think your plans!
> >>
> >> We were in Russia in July 2004, and we thought the weather was great
> >> for touring: moderate and sunny. During the morning and evening, we
> >> wore a light-weight anorak over our outfit.
> >
> >Your (pl) oufit? You were the pantomime horse, then?
> >
> >In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
> >conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
> >monumental folly built on a swamp.
> ???
> How is St Petersburg a folly? The place is a masterpiece!
> --
A "folly" in the sense that Versailles or Hearst Castle or the big "Ceacescu
Palace" in Bucharest or the Stalin skyscraper in Warsaw are follies...
--
Best
Greg
> On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >Karen Selwyn <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> Charles Lewis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I may have to re-think our normal schedule. What do the rest of
> >> > you think about summer?
> >>
> >> Definitely re-think your plans!
> >>
> >> We were in Russia in July 2004, and we thought the weather was great
> >> for touring: moderate and sunny. During the morning and evening, we
> >> wore a light-weight anorak over our outfit.
> >
> >Your (pl) oufit? You were the pantomime horse, then?
> >
> >In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
> >conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
> >monumental folly built on a swamp.
> ???
> How is St Petersburg a folly? The place is a masterpiece!
> --
A "folly" in the sense that Versailles or Hearst Castle or the big "Ceacescu
Palace" in Bucharest or the Stalin skyscraper in Warsaw are follies...
--
Best
Greg
May 21st 2006 | 10:46 am
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Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
> >conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
> >monumental folly built on a swamp.
>
> WhatTF do you think NL is?
They have midges? Ewwww!
Des
> On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
> >conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
> >monumental folly built on a swamp.
>
> WhatTF do you think NL is?
They have midges? Ewwww!
Des
May 21st 2006 | 10:47 am
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Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> writes:
> On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
> >conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
> >monumental folly built on a swamp.
>
> ???
>
> How is St Petersburg a folly? The place is a masterpiece!
"""
In architecture, a folly is an extravagant, useless, or fanciful
building, or a building that appears to be something other than what
it is.
"""
<http://www.answers.com/folly&r=67>
It's extravagant and fanciful, at least, surely?
Des
> On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
> >conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
> >monumental folly built on a swamp.
>
> ???
>
> How is St Petersburg a folly? The place is a masterpiece!
"""
In architecture, a folly is an extravagant, useless, or fanciful
building, or a building that appears to be something other than what
it is.
"""
<http://www.answers.com/folly&r=67>
It's extravagant and fanciful, at least, surely?
Des
May 21st 2006 | 7:37 pm
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On 21 May 2006 23:46:12 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
>> >conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
>> >monumental folly built on a swamp.
>>
>> WhatTF do you think NL is?
>They have midges? Ewwww!
NL has black traffic stopping clouds of mosquitoes.
--
Martin
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 20 May 2006 19:48:50 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In any case, my Big Sis lived in St Leninsberg for a year, and she
>> >conceded there could be midges in the summer - it is after all a
>> >monumental folly built on a swamp.
>>
>> WhatTF do you think NL is?
>They have midges? Ewwww!
NL has black traffic stopping clouds of mosquitoes.
--
Martin
