Train Robbers in Italy
Jul 29th 2004, 12:01 am
#76
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy? Rubbish, Italy is safer than Londonistan,
Tim Challenger wrote:
>
> But you didn't think to pass on your valuable knowledge to your son, like a
> good mother.
Oh, Tim! I have to infer from that statement that you are not a parent!!
The hard-learned (and not-so-hard-learned)wisdom that we parents attempt
to pass along to our offspring that routinely gets ignored is
depressingly large. Perhaps you were an exception as either a son or as
a father, but I find it is far more common for kids think "it will never
happen to me" or not think at all!
Karen Selwyn
>
> But you didn't think to pass on your valuable knowledge to your son, like a
> good mother.
Oh, Tim! I have to infer from that statement that you are not a parent!!
The hard-learned (and not-so-hard-learned)wisdom that we parents attempt
to pass along to our offspring that routinely gets ignored is
depressingly large. Perhaps you were an exception as either a son or as
a father, but I find it is far more common for kids think "it will never
happen to me" or not think at all!
Karen Selwyn
Jul 29th 2004, 12:03 am
#77
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy? Rubbish, Italy is safer than Londonistan, Manchesteristan
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:01:04 -0400, Karen Selwyn wrote:
> Tim Challenger wrote:
>>
>> But you didn't think to pass on your valuable knowledge to your son, like a
>> good mother.
>
> Oh, Tim! I have to infer from that statement that you are not a parent!!
> The hard-learned (and not-so-hard-learned)wisdom that we parents attempt
> to pass along to our offspring that routinely gets ignored is
> depressingly large. Perhaps you were an exception as either a son or as
> a father, but I find it is far more common for kids think "it will never
> happen to me" or not think at all!
>
> Karen Selwyn
You infer incorrectly. But I know what you mean. :-(
Nowhere does Daisy even *hint* at a phrase like "I told him to be careful,
but you know what kids are like". Instead it's all Italy's fault.
--
Tim C.
> Tim Challenger wrote:
>>
>> But you didn't think to pass on your valuable knowledge to your son, like a
>> good mother.
>
> Oh, Tim! I have to infer from that statement that you are not a parent!!
> The hard-learned (and not-so-hard-learned)wisdom that we parents attempt
> to pass along to our offspring that routinely gets ignored is
> depressingly large. Perhaps you were an exception as either a son or as
> a father, but I find it is far more common for kids think "it will never
> happen to me" or not think at all!
>
> Karen Selwyn
You infer incorrectly. But I know what you mean. :-(
Nowhere does Daisy even *hint* at a phrase like "I told him to be careful,
but you know what kids are like". Instead it's all Italy's fault.
--
Tim C.
Jul 29th 2004, 12:49 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy?
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:06:00 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Carole Allen
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> Au contraire, if you saw her speech last night, she is simply an
>> intelligent, articulate woman who has ideas...and is not content to
>> stand behind a man with a vapidly adoring look in her eyes. I just
>> don't get why some people (men and women) are so threatened by strong,
>> intelligent woman. BTW, when her REPUBLICAN senator husband from PA
>> died in that plane crash REPUBLICAN party leaders thought highly
>> enough to ask her to run to fill his seat. She declined, determined
>> to focus on raising her sons.
>She says; 'I grew up under a dictatorship', she forgets to mention she
>was on the Colonial privileged side of that equation and the went on to
>the best university in Africa in segregated S Africa.
This is quite misleading. Her father was an opponent of the colonial
government and she herself was involved in freedom movements. The
university she attended was not segregated, although it was in SA.
-----------
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
>In article <[email protected]>, Carole Allen
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> Au contraire, if you saw her speech last night, she is simply an
>> intelligent, articulate woman who has ideas...and is not content to
>> stand behind a man with a vapidly adoring look in her eyes. I just
>> don't get why some people (men and women) are so threatened by strong,
>> intelligent woman. BTW, when her REPUBLICAN senator husband from PA
>> died in that plane crash REPUBLICAN party leaders thought highly
>> enough to ask her to run to fill his seat. She declined, determined
>> to focus on raising her sons.
>She says; 'I grew up under a dictatorship', she forgets to mention she
>was on the Colonial privileged side of that equation and the went on to
>the best university in Africa in segregated S Africa.
This is quite misleading. Her father was an opponent of the colonial
government and she herself was involved in freedom movements. The
university she attended was not segregated, although it was in SA.
-----------
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Jul 29th 2004, 2:04 am
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Hillary & Mrs. Heinz-Kerry. Hillary "set phasors for kill" Mrs. Heinz got rich off the back of bl
Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<280720042306008522%[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, Carole Allen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Au contraire, if you saw her speech last night, she is simply an
> > intelligent, articulate woman who has ideas...and is not content to
> > stand behind a man with a vapidly adoring look in her eyes. I just
> > don't get why some people (men and women) are so threatened by strong,
> > intelligent woman. BTW, when her REPUBLICAN senator husband from PA
> > died in that plane crash REPUBLICAN party leaders thought highly
> > enough to ask her to run to fill his seat. She declined, determined
> > to focus on raising her sons.
>
> She says; 'I grew up under a dictatorship', she forgets to mention she
> was on the Colonial privileged side of that equation and the went on to
> the best university in Africa in segregated S Africa.
>
> Not my picture of an 'African American' as she calls herself.
>
> Somebody better keep her away from microphones, or there will surely be
> TV adds contrasting her statements with her real life experience. I'm
> sure there must be a number of childhood pictures of her being cared
> for by a 'house Negro'.
>
> jay
> Wed Jul 28, 2004
> mailto:[email protected]
>
Her family had plenty of servants and they lived very well thanks to
repressive Portuguese slavery going back to 1752. The Portuguese and
Belgians were probably the worst colonialists in Africa.
She also became a billionairess, along with Lurch her current husband,
on the backs of poor blacks, mexican and other migrants picking
tomatoes, beans, pickles and other food products for Heinz.
She is very creepy and instead of the 7 languages she might want to
work on the English a bit. The accent sounds like a female Big
Brother.
As Limbaugh said, Hillary has her phasors set for kill. The last
thing the Clintons want is Kerry in office with a wife who has a
politically ambititous trust fund between $1 billion to $3.8 billion.
They will have the money and power to make sure Kerry gets two terms
and through billions in litigation, Edwards will get 8 years. The
Clintons will become a footnote very very fast if Kerry wins.
Watch for stories to leak out about Kerry soon. There are dozens of
stories about what a creep he is but the press will run with these
stories. Don't forget - Bill & Hillary have Kerry's FBI files.
People think the Clinton's went through those files for Republican
dirt - they also went through Dem files to keep people in line.
Remember when Bob Kerrey was going to run for Pres? A little story
leaked out how he and his SEAL team did a little number on sleeping
Vietnamese family in a hamlet. John Kerry's actiosn were probably
worse. Anyway, Bob Kerrey's Presidential ambitions went up in smoke
overnight.
> In article <[email protected]>, Carole Allen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Au contraire, if you saw her speech last night, she is simply an
> > intelligent, articulate woman who has ideas...and is not content to
> > stand behind a man with a vapidly adoring look in her eyes. I just
> > don't get why some people (men and women) are so threatened by strong,
> > intelligent woman. BTW, when her REPUBLICAN senator husband from PA
> > died in that plane crash REPUBLICAN party leaders thought highly
> > enough to ask her to run to fill his seat. She declined, determined
> > to focus on raising her sons.
>
> She says; 'I grew up under a dictatorship', she forgets to mention she
> was on the Colonial privileged side of that equation and the went on to
> the best university in Africa in segregated S Africa.
>
> Not my picture of an 'African American' as she calls herself.
>
> Somebody better keep her away from microphones, or there will surely be
> TV adds contrasting her statements with her real life experience. I'm
> sure there must be a number of childhood pictures of her being cared
> for by a 'house Negro'.
>
> jay
> Wed Jul 28, 2004
> mailto:[email protected]
>
Her family had plenty of servants and they lived very well thanks to
repressive Portuguese slavery going back to 1752. The Portuguese and
Belgians were probably the worst colonialists in Africa.
She also became a billionairess, along with Lurch her current husband,
on the backs of poor blacks, mexican and other migrants picking
tomatoes, beans, pickles and other food products for Heinz.
She is very creepy and instead of the 7 languages she might want to
work on the English a bit. The accent sounds like a female Big
Brother.
As Limbaugh said, Hillary has her phasors set for kill. The last
thing the Clintons want is Kerry in office with a wife who has a
politically ambititous trust fund between $1 billion to $3.8 billion.
They will have the money and power to make sure Kerry gets two terms
and through billions in litigation, Edwards will get 8 years. The
Clintons will become a footnote very very fast if Kerry wins.
Watch for stories to leak out about Kerry soon. There are dozens of
stories about what a creep he is but the press will run with these
stories. Don't forget - Bill & Hillary have Kerry's FBI files.
People think the Clinton's went through those files for Republican
dirt - they also went through Dem files to keep people in line.
Remember when Bob Kerrey was going to run for Pres? A little story
leaked out how he and his SEAL team did a little number on sleeping
Vietnamese family in a hamlet. John Kerry's actiosn were probably
worse. Anyway, Bob Kerrey's Presidential ambitions went up in smoke
overnight.
Jul 29th 2004, 2:12 am
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Re: Hillary & Mrs. Heinz-Kerry. Hillary "set phasors for kill" Mrs. Heinz got rich off the back o
On 29 Jul 2004 07:04:41 -0700, [email protected] (Bobby
Fischler) wrote:
>Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<280720042306008522%[email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>, Carole Allen
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Au contraire, if you saw her speech last night, she is simply an
>> > intelligent, articulate woman who has ideas...and is not content to
>> > stand behind a man with a vapidly adoring look in her eyes. I just
>> > don't get why some people (men and women) are so threatened by strong,
>> > intelligent woman. BTW, when her REPUBLICAN senator husband from PA
>> > died in that plane crash REPUBLICAN party leaders thought highly
>> > enough to ask her to run to fill his seat. She declined, determined
>> > to focus on raising her sons.
>>
>> She says; 'I grew up under a dictatorship', she forgets to mention she
>> was on the Colonial privileged side of that equation and the went on to
>> the best university in Africa in segregated S Africa.
>>
>> Not my picture of an 'African American' as she calls herself.
>>
>> Somebody better keep her away from microphones, or there will surely be
>> TV adds contrasting her statements with her real life experience. I'm
>> sure there must be a number of childhood pictures of her being cared
>> for by a 'house Negro'.
>>
>> jay
>> Wed Jul 28, 2004
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>
>Her family had plenty of servants and they lived very well thanks to
>repressive Portuguese slavery going back to 1752. The Portuguese and
>Belgians were probably the worst colonialists in Africa.
>She also became a billionairess, along with Lurch her current husband,
>on the backs of poor blacks, mexican and other migrants picking
>tomatoes, beans, pickles and other food products for Heinz.
>She is very creepy and instead of the 7 languages she might want to
>work on the English a bit. The accent sounds like a female Big
>Brother.
>As Limbaugh said, Hillary has her phasors set for kill. The last
>thing the Clintons want is Kerry in office with a wife who has a
>politically ambititous trust fund between $1 billion to $3.8 billion.
>They will have the money and power to make sure Kerry gets two terms
>and through billions in litigation, Edwards will get 8 years. The
>Clintons will become a footnote very very fast if Kerry wins.
>Watch for stories to leak out about Kerry soon. There are dozens of
>stories about what a creep he is but the press will run with these
>stories. Don't forget - Bill & Hillary have Kerry's FBI files.
>People think the Clinton's went through those files for Republican
>dirt - they also went through Dem files to keep people in line.
>Remember when Bob Kerrey was going to run for Pres? A little story
>leaked out how he and his SEAL team did a little number on sleeping
>Vietnamese family in a hamlet. John Kerry's actiosn were probably
>worse. Anyway, Bob Kerrey's Presidential ambitions went up in smoke
>overnight.
Once again we see the conservatives are scared shitless of this
ticket!! The more frightened they become the more shrill the lies and
distortions. Keep it up honey , we love your posts!
-----
"The only truly new ideas [the right] has come up with
in the last twenty years are
1) supply side economics, which is a way of redistributing
the wealth upward toward those who already have more than
they know what to do with, and; (2) creationism, which is a parallel idea for redistributing
ignorance out from its fundamentalist strongholds to those
who know more than they need to.
-Barbara Ehrenreich
Fischler) wrote:
>Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<280720042306008522%[email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>, Carole Allen
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Au contraire, if you saw her speech last night, she is simply an
>> > intelligent, articulate woman who has ideas...and is not content to
>> > stand behind a man with a vapidly adoring look in her eyes. I just
>> > don't get why some people (men and women) are so threatened by strong,
>> > intelligent woman. BTW, when her REPUBLICAN senator husband from PA
>> > died in that plane crash REPUBLICAN party leaders thought highly
>> > enough to ask her to run to fill his seat. She declined, determined
>> > to focus on raising her sons.
>>
>> She says; 'I grew up under a dictatorship', she forgets to mention she
>> was on the Colonial privileged side of that equation and the went on to
>> the best university in Africa in segregated S Africa.
>>
>> Not my picture of an 'African American' as she calls herself.
>>
>> Somebody better keep her away from microphones, or there will surely be
>> TV adds contrasting her statements with her real life experience. I'm
>> sure there must be a number of childhood pictures of her being cared
>> for by a 'house Negro'.
>>
>> jay
>> Wed Jul 28, 2004
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>
>Her family had plenty of servants and they lived very well thanks to
>repressive Portuguese slavery going back to 1752. The Portuguese and
>Belgians were probably the worst colonialists in Africa.
>She also became a billionairess, along with Lurch her current husband,
>on the backs of poor blacks, mexican and other migrants picking
>tomatoes, beans, pickles and other food products for Heinz.
>She is very creepy and instead of the 7 languages she might want to
>work on the English a bit. The accent sounds like a female Big
>Brother.
>As Limbaugh said, Hillary has her phasors set for kill. The last
>thing the Clintons want is Kerry in office with a wife who has a
>politically ambititous trust fund between $1 billion to $3.8 billion.
>They will have the money and power to make sure Kerry gets two terms
>and through billions in litigation, Edwards will get 8 years. The
>Clintons will become a footnote very very fast if Kerry wins.
>Watch for stories to leak out about Kerry soon. There are dozens of
>stories about what a creep he is but the press will run with these
>stories. Don't forget - Bill & Hillary have Kerry's FBI files.
>People think the Clinton's went through those files for Republican
>dirt - they also went through Dem files to keep people in line.
>Remember when Bob Kerrey was going to run for Pres? A little story
>leaked out how he and his SEAL team did a little number on sleeping
>Vietnamese family in a hamlet. John Kerry's actiosn were probably
>worse. Anyway, Bob Kerrey's Presidential ambitions went up in smoke
>overnight.
Once again we see the conservatives are scared shitless of this
ticket!! The more frightened they become the more shrill the lies and
distortions. Keep it up honey , we love your posts!
-----
"The only truly new ideas [the right] has come up with
in the last twenty years are
1) supply side economics, which is a way of redistributing the wealth upward toward those who already have more than
they know what to do with, and; (2) creationism, which is a parallel idea for redistributing
ignorance out from its fundamentalist strongholds to those
who know more than they need to.
-Barbara Ehrenreich
Jul 29th 2004, 2:20 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy & Muslims Gangs Stabbing Tourists In London
extrapolated from data available...
> In article <[email protected] >,
> [email protected] (Bobby Fischler) wrote:
>
>> The English have an odd habit of calling
>> Muslims - asians
>
> In fact they have a reasonable habit of calling Asians Asians.
>
To folks in the US, unaccustomed to referring to folks from the Indian
Subcontinent as "Asians", it's particularly confusing and illogical, just
as calling 'Strines "Asians" would seem ridiculous.
In US practice, the use of "Asian" may have distinct racial or even racist
overtones, and the vernacular employment of "Indian" for folks from the
subcontinent, besides giving offense to those of Pakistani origin,
certainly can be uncomfortable to the culturally sensitive, just as calling
a immigrants in the US MexicanAmericans when the matter of a few miles
makes them GuatemalanAmericans (or worse, the familiar "Tecos").
That still leaves nothing to call a neighbor from Bangladesh.....
.....But at least in the US, we've become comfortable with and widely
employ the "Hyphenated American" approach which gives us Mexican Americans,
etc., unlike the UK where few non-European immigrants, even those with
citizenship may ever be awarded even "hyphenated British" status.
TMO
> In article <[email protected] >,
> [email protected] (Bobby Fischler) wrote:
>
>> The English have an odd habit of calling
>> Muslims - asians
>
> In fact they have a reasonable habit of calling Asians Asians.
>
To folks in the US, unaccustomed to referring to folks from the Indian
Subcontinent as "Asians", it's particularly confusing and illogical, just
as calling 'Strines "Asians" would seem ridiculous.
In US practice, the use of "Asian" may have distinct racial or even racist
overtones, and the vernacular employment of "Indian" for folks from the
subcontinent, besides giving offense to those of Pakistani origin,
certainly can be uncomfortable to the culturally sensitive, just as calling
a immigrants in the US MexicanAmericans when the matter of a few miles
makes them GuatemalanAmericans (or worse, the familiar "Tecos").
That still leaves nothing to call a neighbor from Bangladesh.....
.....But at least in the US, we've become comfortable with and widely
employ the "Hyphenated American" approach which gives us Mexican Americans,
etc., unlike the UK where few non-European immigrants, even those with
citizenship may ever be awarded even "hyphenated British" status.
TMO
Jul 29th 2004, 2:37 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
Daisy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
> you would expect?
BTW, my father turned 70 a couple of weeks ago. He spent most of his
life in Italy, the longest periods abroad being two stays being two long
business stays in USA, summing up to nine months there.
Well, he was robbed two times at gunpoint in USA, but never robbed in
Italy.
--
Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
> Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
> you would expect?
BTW, my father turned 70 a couple of weeks ago. He spent most of his
life in Italy, the longest periods abroad being two stays being two long
business stays in USA, summing up to nine months there.
Well, he was robbed two times at gunpoint in USA, but never robbed in
Italy.
--
Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
Jul 29th 2004, 2:41 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy & Muslims Gangs Stabbing Tourists In London
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:20:37 -0500, Olivers wrote:
> But at least in the US, we've become comfortable with and widely
> employ the "Hyphenated American" approach which gives us Mexican Americans,
> etc., ...
... and which gives everybody else a good laugh.
--
Tim C.
> But at least in the US, we've become comfortable with and widely
> employ the "Hyphenated American" approach which gives us Mexican Americans,
> etc., ...
... and which gives everybody else a good laugh.
--
Tim C.
Jul 29th 2004, 2:41 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy & Muslims Gangs Stabbing Tourists In London
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:21:17 +0000 (UTC), Alan Harrison wrote:
> "Bobby Fischler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> The English have an odd habit of calling
>> Muslims - asians
>
> Err, no. "Asians" in British usage are south Asians. Many are Sikhs or
> Hindus.
>
> Alan Harrison
Exactly. Not all Asians are Muslim. Not all Muslims are from Asia. There
*are* other religions in the world.
--
Tim C.
> "Bobby Fischler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> The English have an odd habit of calling
>> Muslims - asians
>
> Err, no. "Asians" in British usage are south Asians. Many are Sikhs or
> Hindus.
>
> Alan Harrison
Exactly. Not all Asians are Muslim. Not all Muslims are from Asia. There
*are* other religions in the world.
--
Tim C.
Jul 29th 2004, 3:44 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy & Muslims Gangs Stabbing Tourists In London
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Olivers) wrote:
> extrapolated from data available...
>
> > In article <[email protected] >,
> > [email protected] (Bobby Fischler) wrote:
> >
> >> The English have an odd habit of calling
> >> Muslims - asians
> >
> > In fact they have a reasonable habit of calling Asians Asians.
> >
>
> To folks in the US, unaccustomed to referring to folks from the Indian
> Subcontinent as "Asians", it's particularly confusing and illogical,
> just as calling 'Strines "Asians" would seem ridiculous.
ISTM that "Asian" is generally used when the speaker isn't sure precisely
which Asian country the person in question is from, or descends from.
> That still leaves nothing to call a neighbor from Bangladesh.....
Bangladeshi?
[email protected] (Olivers) wrote:
> extrapolated from data available...
>
> > In article <[email protected] >,
> > [email protected] (Bobby Fischler) wrote:
> >
> >> The English have an odd habit of calling
> >> Muslims - asians
> >
> > In fact they have a reasonable habit of calling Asians Asians.
> >
>
> To folks in the US, unaccustomed to referring to folks from the Indian
> Subcontinent as "Asians", it's particularly confusing and illogical,
> just as calling 'Strines "Asians" would seem ridiculous.
ISTM that "Asian" is generally used when the speaker isn't sure precisely
which Asian country the person in question is from, or descends from.
> That still leaves nothing to call a neighbor from Bangladesh.....
Bangladeshi?
Jul 29th 2004, 3:58 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy & Muslims Gangs Stabbing Tourists In London
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:44:42 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Olivers) wrote:
>
>> extrapolated from data available...
>>
>>> In article <[email protected] >,
>>> [email protected] (Bobby Fischler) wrote:
>>>
>>>> The English have an odd habit of calling
>>>> Muslims - asians
>>>
>>> In fact they have a reasonable habit of calling Asians Asians.
>>>
>>
>> To folks in the US, unaccustomed to referring to folks from the Indian
>> Subcontinent as "Asians", it's particularly confusing and illogical,
>> just as calling 'Strines "Asians" would seem ridiculous.
>
> ISTM that "Asian" is generally used when the speaker isn't sure precisely
> which Asian country the person in question is from, or descends from.
In the same way one can say "European".
>> That still leaves nothing to call a neighbor from Bangladesh.....
>
> Bangladeshi?
Hit the nail right on the head there. I think Olivers' mind is too highly
trained.
--
Tim C.
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Olivers) wrote:
>
>> extrapolated from data available...
>>
>>> In article <[email protected] >,
>>> [email protected] (Bobby Fischler) wrote:
>>>
>>>> The English have an odd habit of calling
>>>> Muslims - asians
>>>
>>> In fact they have a reasonable habit of calling Asians Asians.
>>>
>>
>> To folks in the US, unaccustomed to referring to folks from the Indian
>> Subcontinent as "Asians", it's particularly confusing and illogical,
>> just as calling 'Strines "Asians" would seem ridiculous.
>
> ISTM that "Asian" is generally used when the speaker isn't sure precisely
> which Asian country the person in question is from, or descends from.
In the same way one can say "European".
>> That still leaves nothing to call a neighbor from Bangladesh.....
>
> Bangladeshi?
Hit the nail right on the head there. I think Olivers' mind is too highly
trained.
--
Tim C.
Jul 29th 2004, 4:02 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy?
Go Fig wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Carole Allen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Au contraire, if you saw her speech last night, she is simply an
>>intelligent, articulate woman who has ideas...and is not content to
>>stand behind a man with a vapidly adoring look in her eyes. I just
>>don't get why some people (men and women) are so threatened by strong,
>>intelligent woman. BTW, when her REPUBLICAN senator husband from PA
>>died in that plane crash REPUBLICAN party leaders thought highly
>>enough to ask her to run to fill his seat. She declined, determined
>>to focus on raising her sons.
>
>
> She says; 'I grew up under a dictatorship', she forgets to mention she
> was on the Colonial privileged side of that equation and the went on to
> the best university in Africa in segregated S Africa.
>
> Not my picture of an 'African American' as she calls herself.
>
> Somebody better keep her away from microphones, or there will surely be
> TV adds contrasting her statements with her real life experience. I'm
> sure there must be a number of childhood pictures of her being cared
> for by a 'house Negro'.
the GOP line this time is that because Kerry and Edwards are rich they
can't be on the side of ordinary Americans -- and yours is that because
Tereza Heinz Kerry was not a poor black that her experience with a
dictatorship cannot shape her empathy with those oppressed. Both
extremely silly ideas. Tereza's family were opposed to the colonial
apartheid government and she attended an integrated university. And of
course as FDR exemplified, it doesn't take a poor person to do the right
thing for all Americans. We do however know what the very entitled
crony capitalists NOW in power will do with 4 more years -- and that is
continue to line their pockets at the expense of opportunity for
everyone else.
> In article <[email protected]>, Carole Allen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Au contraire, if you saw her speech last night, she is simply an
>>intelligent, articulate woman who has ideas...and is not content to
>>stand behind a man with a vapidly adoring look in her eyes. I just
>>don't get why some people (men and women) are so threatened by strong,
>>intelligent woman. BTW, when her REPUBLICAN senator husband from PA
>>died in that plane crash REPUBLICAN party leaders thought highly
>>enough to ask her to run to fill his seat. She declined, determined
>>to focus on raising her sons.
>
>
> She says; 'I grew up under a dictatorship', she forgets to mention she
> was on the Colonial privileged side of that equation and the went on to
> the best university in Africa in segregated S Africa.
>
> Not my picture of an 'African American' as she calls herself.
>
> Somebody better keep her away from microphones, or there will surely be
> TV adds contrasting her statements with her real life experience. I'm
> sure there must be a number of childhood pictures of her being cared
> for by a 'house Negro'.
the GOP line this time is that because Kerry and Edwards are rich they
can't be on the side of ordinary Americans -- and yours is that because
Tereza Heinz Kerry was not a poor black that her experience with a
dictatorship cannot shape her empathy with those oppressed. Both
extremely silly ideas. Tereza's family were opposed to the colonial
apartheid government and she attended an integrated university. And of
course as FDR exemplified, it doesn't take a poor person to do the right
thing for all Americans. We do however know what the very entitled
crony capitalists NOW in power will do with 4 more years -- and that is
continue to line their pockets at the expense of opportunity for
everyone else.
Jul 29th 2004, 4:45 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy?
Olivers <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>
> Of course, this time around, Bush stands an excellent chance at reelection,
> since his opponent seems to possess all the charismatic appeal of a bowl of
> unflavored tapioca, along with some substantial baggage, including what may
> be a albatross slung about his neck in the person of his spouse whom it
> seems impossible to conceal from public scrutiny. She may be at least to
> the "Traditional Family Values" set, a big chunk of USAian voters, about as
> appealing as scheduling John Ashcroft to speak at an ACLU convention).
>
Well, at least she's never killed anybody, unlike Laura Bush.....
>>
> Of course, this time around, Bush stands an excellent chance at reelection,
> since his opponent seems to possess all the charismatic appeal of a bowl of
> unflavored tapioca, along with some substantial baggage, including what may
> be a albatross slung about his neck in the person of his spouse whom it
> seems impossible to conceal from public scrutiny. She may be at least to
> the "Traditional Family Values" set, a big chunk of USAian voters, about as
> appealing as scheduling John Ashcroft to speak at an ACLU convention).
>
Well, at least she's never killed anybody, unlike Laura Bush.....
Jul 29th 2004, 4:46 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy & Muslims Gangs Stabbing Tourists In London
"Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
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> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:20:37 -0500, Olivers wrote:
> > But at least in the US, we've become comfortable with and widely
> > employ the "Hyphenated American" approach which gives us Mexican
Americans,
> > etc., ...
> ... and which gives everybody else a good laugh.
And is utterly ridiculous when a xth generation American calls himself
Dutch-American or something like that. I met such a gentleman a few years
ago, and when I switched to speak Dutch with him, found out he doesn't speak
a word of Dutch! Turns out his great-grandfather emigrated from the
Netherlands to the USA. Ha! One of my grandmothers' grandfather came from
Germany, so I will call myself German-Dutch next time I go to the US.
Sjoerd
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> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:20:37 -0500, Olivers wrote:
> > But at least in the US, we've become comfortable with and widely
> > employ the "Hyphenated American" approach which gives us Mexican
Americans,
> > etc., ...
> ... and which gives everybody else a good laugh.
And is utterly ridiculous when a xth generation American calls himself
Dutch-American or something like that. I met such a gentleman a few years
ago, and when I switched to speak Dutch with him, found out he doesn't speak
a word of Dutch! Turns out his great-grandfather emigrated from the
Netherlands to the USA. Ha! One of my grandmothers' grandfather came from
Germany, so I will call myself German-Dutch next time I go to the US.
Sjoerd
Jul 29th 2004, 5:15 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
Luca Logi extrapolated from data available...
> Daisy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
>> you would expect?
>
> BTW, my father turned 70 a couple of weeks ago. He spent most of his
> life in Italy, the longest periods abroad being two stays being two long
> business stays in USA, summing up to nine months there.
>
> Well, he was robbed two times at gunpoint in USA, but never robbed in
> Italy.
>
I must admit that I've only been offered watches (apparently stolen)
displayed from the inside lining of a raincoat three times, all three in
Naples (and long ago). Just as there's a lot more to Italy than stolen
watches and Naples, your dad must have picked some hold up prone
nighborhoods for his trips to the US. I've been all over the US for most
of 64 years and haven't been held up yet, and have probably spent a
cumulative - counting every day ashore - three or four months in Italy,
never been pickpocketed but seen a couple and helped catch one, saw a theft
in Taranto (US Naval aviators stealing an ornamental cannon from outside
ITalian naval HQ, a major international incident only prevented by cool
heads), helped handcuff a petty criminal to the stanchions at Palermo's
fleet landing so that the carabinieri could vigorously mistreat him while
waiting for a vehicle, participated in breaking up the mugging of a couple
of Soviet merchant seamen in on the quay in Genoa (US sailors stop Italian
thieves attacking Reds!), and eaten fresh sardines cooked over dried
grapevine in Livorno.
In other words, I've seen much, and enjoyed it more than your Dad's US
experince...
TMO
> Daisy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
>> you would expect?
>
> BTW, my father turned 70 a couple of weeks ago. He spent most of his
> life in Italy, the longest periods abroad being two stays being two long
> business stays in USA, summing up to nine months there.
>
> Well, he was robbed two times at gunpoint in USA, but never robbed in
> Italy.
>
I must admit that I've only been offered watches (apparently stolen)
displayed from the inside lining of a raincoat three times, all three in
Naples (and long ago). Just as there's a lot more to Italy than stolen
watches and Naples, your dad must have picked some hold up prone
nighborhoods for his trips to the US. I've been all over the US for most
of 64 years and haven't been held up yet, and have probably spent a
cumulative - counting every day ashore - three or four months in Italy,
never been pickpocketed but seen a couple and helped catch one, saw a theft
in Taranto (US Naval aviators stealing an ornamental cannon from outside
ITalian naval HQ, a major international incident only prevented by cool
heads), helped handcuff a petty criminal to the stanchions at Palermo's
fleet landing so that the carabinieri could vigorously mistreat him while
waiting for a vehicle, participated in breaking up the mugging of a couple
of Soviet merchant seamen in on the quay in Genoa (US sailors stop Italian
thieves attacking Reds!), and eaten fresh sardines cooked over dried
grapevine in Livorno.
In other words, I've seen much, and enjoyed it more than your Dad's US
experince...
TMO
