Train Robbers in Italy
Jul 25th 2004, 8:40 pm
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Train Robbers in Italy
My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
you would expect?
Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
necessary in Italy.
Daisy
between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
you would expect?
Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
necessary in Italy.
Daisy
Jul 25th 2004, 8:47 pm
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:40:59 +1200, Daisy wrote:
> My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
> between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
> done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
> was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
> it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
>
> Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
> you would expect?
>
> Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
> necessary in Italy.
Tell me, did they put some sort of sleeping-gas through the
air-conditioning first as in the other versions of this story?
Even if it *is* true (which I doubt), think the message is to not go to
sleep with your money lying around.
--
Tim C.
> My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
> between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
> done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
> was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
> it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
>
> Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
> you would expect?
>
> Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
> necessary in Italy.
Tell me, did they put some sort of sleeping-gas through the
air-conditioning first as in the other versions of this story?
Even if it *is* true (which I doubt), think the message is to not go to
sleep with your money lying around.
--
Tim C.
Jul 25th 2004, 9:18 pm
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:47:31 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:40:59 +1200, Daisy wrote:
>> My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
>> between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
>> done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
>> was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
>> it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
>>
>> Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
>> you would expect?
>>
>> Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
>> necessary in Italy.
>Tell me, did they put some sort of sleeping-gas through the
>air-conditioning first as in the other versions of this story?
>Even if it *is* true (which I doubt), think the message is to not go to
>sleep with your money lying around.
Hello? One gets on a train at 2.30 am (not pm you understand!) to
travel to France, and one only catches a train at this time because
one has to. Get it? And one gets robbed because one is asleep.
Are you saying that people should not travel at night with cash
because they could be robbed?
If train travel is so unsafe in a supposedly first world country, what
would you suggest? That the victims (and there were about a half
dozen in the same carriage) - who had actually been paid in cash for
work done immediately before they boarded the train - should have
taken some sort of alternative action?
Surely the message here is that if night-time travel on Italian trains
is subject to this sort of crime, people should be made aware?
Especially tourists - this is midsummer after all,
Perhaps my son will put money into his sox - or down his girlfriend's
bra, or somewhere else less at risk - but the bottom line is, why
should he have to?
Daisy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:40:59 +1200, Daisy wrote:
>> My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
>> between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
>> done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
>> was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
>> it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
>>
>> Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
>> you would expect?
>>
>> Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
>> necessary in Italy.
>Tell me, did they put some sort of sleeping-gas through the
>air-conditioning first as in the other versions of this story?
>Even if it *is* true (which I doubt), think the message is to not go to
>sleep with your money lying around.
Hello? One gets on a train at 2.30 am (not pm you understand!) to
travel to France, and one only catches a train at this time because
one has to. Get it? And one gets robbed because one is asleep.
Are you saying that people should not travel at night with cash
because they could be robbed?
If train travel is so unsafe in a supposedly first world country, what
would you suggest? That the victims (and there were about a half
dozen in the same carriage) - who had actually been paid in cash for
work done immediately before they boarded the train - should have
taken some sort of alternative action?
Surely the message here is that if night-time travel on Italian trains
is subject to this sort of crime, people should be made aware?
Especially tourists - this is midsummer after all,
Perhaps my son will put money into his sox - or down his girlfriend's
bra, or somewhere else less at risk - but the bottom line is, why
should he have to?
Daisy
Jul 25th 2004, 9:35 pm
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:40:59 +1200, in rec.travel.europe, Daisy <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
... between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
... done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
... was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
... it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
...
... Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
... you would expect?
...
... Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
... necessary in Italy.
A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
I used to take the night train Paris-Milan and refer to it as "The Snail".
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
... between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
... done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
... was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
... it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
...
... Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
... you would expect?
...
... Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
... necessary in Italy.
A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
I used to take the night train Paris-Milan and refer to it as "The Snail".
Jul 25th 2004, 9:43 pm
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:18:55 +1200, Daisy wrote:
>>Even if it *is* true (which I doubt), think the message is to not go to
>>sleep with your money lying around.
>
> Hello? One gets on a train at 2.30 am (not pm you understand!) to
> travel to France, and one only catches a train at this time because
> one has to. Get it? And one gets robbed because one is asleep.
> Are you saying that people should not travel at night with cash
> because they could be robbed?
Hello?
No. Did you skip reading and comprehension lessons at school?
>If train travel is so unsafe in a supposedly first world country, what
>would you suggest?
Who says it's so unsafe? One incident (if its true) doesn't make it unsafe.
>That the victims (and there were about a half
>dozen in the same carriage) - who had actually been paid in cash for
>work done immediately before they boarded the train - should have
>taken some sort of alternative action?
Well, yes.
If they were that loaded then I would expect them to put the money
somewhere pretty safe, just in case.
>Surely the message here is that if night-time travel on Italian trains
>is subject to this sort of crime, people should be made aware?
>Especially tourists - this is midsummer after all,
Perhaps the message here is not to fall asleep with loads of money that
isn't put somewhere fairly safe. You can get robbed just about anywhere.
I suppose he wanders around with his wallet sticking out of his back pocket
in crowded cities as well?
>Perhaps my son will put money into his socks - or down his girlfriend's
>bra, or somewhere else less at risk
Perhaps he should, if it was a lot of money.
> - but the bottom line is, why should he have to?
Because you're naive if you think that there are robbers only in Italy.
Where, exactly, was the newly hard-earned cash? Just out of interest?
There was a whole carriage of people (say around 30-50 people?) to steal
from - he, loaded with cash, was one of the 5 who was a victim. Obviously
he was taking not even the slightest precaution. Clearly he was in the top
5th of easy touches for the robbers.
--
Tim C.
>>Even if it *is* true (which I doubt), think the message is to not go to
>>sleep with your money lying around.
>
> Hello? One gets on a train at 2.30 am (not pm you understand!) to
> travel to France, and one only catches a train at this time because
> one has to. Get it? And one gets robbed because one is asleep.
> Are you saying that people should not travel at night with cash
> because they could be robbed?
Hello?
No. Did you skip reading and comprehension lessons at school?
>If train travel is so unsafe in a supposedly first world country, what
>would you suggest?
Who says it's so unsafe? One incident (if its true) doesn't make it unsafe.
>That the victims (and there were about a half
>dozen in the same carriage) - who had actually been paid in cash for
>work done immediately before they boarded the train - should have
>taken some sort of alternative action?
Well, yes.
If they were that loaded then I would expect them to put the money
somewhere pretty safe, just in case.
>Surely the message here is that if night-time travel on Italian trains
>is subject to this sort of crime, people should be made aware?
>Especially tourists - this is midsummer after all,
Perhaps the message here is not to fall asleep with loads of money that
isn't put somewhere fairly safe. You can get robbed just about anywhere.
I suppose he wanders around with his wallet sticking out of his back pocket
in crowded cities as well?
>Perhaps my son will put money into his socks - or down his girlfriend's
>bra, or somewhere else less at risk
Perhaps he should, if it was a lot of money.
> - but the bottom line is, why should he have to?
Because you're naive if you think that there are robbers only in Italy.
Where, exactly, was the newly hard-earned cash? Just out of interest?
There was a whole carriage of people (say around 30-50 people?) to steal
from - he, loaded with cash, was one of the 5 who was a victim. Obviously
he was taking not even the slightest precaution. Clearly he was in the top
5th of easy touches for the robbers.
--
Tim C.
Jul 25th 2004, 9:43 pm
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
"Daisy" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
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> Surely the message here is that if night-time travel on Italian trains
> is subject to this sort of crime, people should be made aware?
Most people *are* aware. Some limited preparation from your son would have
made him aware, and he would have kept his valuables in a safe place.
Sjoerd
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> Surely the message here is that if night-time travel on Italian trains
> is subject to this sort of crime, people should be made aware?
Most people *are* aware. Some limited preparation from your son would have
made him aware, and he would have kept his valuables in a safe place.
Sjoerd
Jul 26th 2004, 1:21 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:18:55 +1200, Daisy <[email protected]>
wrote:
> but the bottom line is, why
>should he have to?
because it's a mean world out there with bad people in it, hopefully
your son learned a lesson and will secure his cash better in the
future
wrote:
> but the bottom line is, why
>should he have to?
because it's a mean world out there with bad people in it, hopefully
your son learned a lesson and will secure his cash better in the
future
Jul 26th 2004, 1:37 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Magda) wrote:
> A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
There is indeed one leaving at 02:46, according to bahn.de.
[email protected] (Magda) wrote:
> A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
There is indeed one leaving at 02:46, according to bahn.de.
Jul 26th 2004, 1:46 am
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:37:53 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Magda) wrote:
>
>> A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
>
> There is indeed one leaving at 02:46, according to bahn.de.
Ah, but is that Monaco (the one with Monte Carlo in it), near Nice or
Monaco in Bavaria (Munich)? ;-)
--
Tim C.
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Magda) wrote:
>
>> A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
>
> There is indeed one leaving at 02:46, according to bahn.de.
Ah, but is that Monaco (the one with Monte Carlo in it), near Nice or
Monaco in Bavaria (Munich)? ;-)
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Tim C.
Jul 26th 2004, 2:17 am
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"Daisy" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Is this a civilized country or what -
It's probably more civilized than any country hosting someone asking such a
question.
Edoardo
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> Is this a civilized country or what -
It's probably more civilized than any country hosting someone asking such a
question.
Edoardo
Jul 26th 2004, 3:19 am
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In message <[email protected]>, Magda
<[email protected]> writes
>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:40:59 +1200, in rec.travel.europe, Daisy
><[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
> ... between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
> ... done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
> ... was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
> ... it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
> ...
> ... Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
> ... you would expect?
> ...
> ... Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
> ... necessary in Italy.
>A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
Train D368, 2315 from Roma Termini to Nice-Ville arr 0954? Leaves Pisa
at 0246 and arrives at Monaco 0934....
>I used to take the night train Paris-Milan and refer to it as "The Snail".
--
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http://www.cartref.demon.co.uk/
<[email protected]> writes
>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:40:59 +1200, in rec.travel.europe, Daisy
><[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
> ... between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
> ... done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
> ... was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
> ... it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
> ...
> ... Is this a civilized country or what - and is this the sort of reaction
> ... you would expect?
> ...
> ... Keep your cash in your sox or down your bra would seem pretty well
> ... necessary in Italy.
>A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
Train D368, 2315 from Roma Termini to Nice-Ville arr 0954? Leaves Pisa
at 0246 and arrives at Monaco 0934....
>I used to take the night train Paris-Milan and refer to it as "The Snail".
--
Arwel Parry
http://www.cartref.demon.co.uk/
Jul 26th 2004, 3:39 am
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Daisy extrapolated from data available...
>
> If train travel is so unsafe in a supposedly first world country, what
> would you suggest? That the victims (and there were about a half
> dozen in the same carriage) - who had actually been paid in cash for
> work done immediately before they boarded the train - should have
> taken some sort of alternative action?
Did he have a work permit or appropriate visa?
TMO
>
> If train travel is so unsafe in a supposedly first world country, what
> would you suggest? That the victims (and there were about a half
> dozen in the same carriage) - who had actually been paid in cash for
> work done immediately before they boarded the train - should have
> taken some sort of alternative action?
Did he have a work permit or appropriate visa?
TMO
Jul 26th 2004, 3:45 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:40:59 +1200, Daisy <[email protected]>
wrote:
>My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
>between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
>done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
>was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
>it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
I'm sorry for your son, but this sort of thing is not common in Italy.
Police the world over tend to say such banal and unhelpful things.
When my apartment was robbed in Philadelphia, the police asked me if I
had insurance. (Right, I rent a fourth-floor walkup, do you think I
can afford insurance?) When I said I didn't, they replied, "Well now
you know that you should get some."
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wrote:
>My son (who actually lives in Italy) was robbed on a night train
>between Pisa and Monaco the other night. The entire carriage was
>done, and 5 passengers relieved of their cash. The police to whom it
>was reported said it was just as well the victims were asleep because
>it could have been quite nasty otherwise.
I'm sorry for your son, but this sort of thing is not common in Italy.
Police the world over tend to say such banal and unhelpful things.
When my apartment was robbed in Philadelphia, the police asked me if I
had insurance. (Right, I rent a fourth-floor walkup, do you think I
can afford insurance?) When I said I didn't, they replied, "Well now
you know that you should get some."
-----------
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Jul 26th 2004, 3:58 am
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Re: Train Robbers in Italy
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:19:48 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Arwel Parry
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Train D368, 2315 from Roma Termini to Nice-Ville arr 0954? Leaves Pisa
... at 0246 and arrives at Monaco 0934....
And there are masochists who stay awake to take it at 3 am ?... LOL
Do you know at what speed it goes ?
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Train D368, 2315 from Roma Termini to Nice-Ville arr 0954? Leaves Pisa
... at 0246 and arrives at Monaco 0934....
And there are masochists who stay awake to take it at 3 am ?... LOL
Do you know at what speed it goes ?
Jul 26th 2004, 5:12 am
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"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
> I used to take the night train Paris-Milan and refer to it as "The Snail".
There used to be a sleeper service from Milano, depart midnight
arrive Nice 8:30, averaging 40km/h.
Used it once, quite useful
tim
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> A night train between Pisa and Monaco ? LOL
> I used to take the night train Paris-Milan and refer to it as "The Snail".
There used to be a sleeper service from Milano, depart midnight
arrive Nice 8:30, averaging 40km/h.
Used it once, quite useful
tim
