Re: Tidal Causeways
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:55:30 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:14:33 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... There is one near Bugueles, but I don't know it's name.
>
>You don't know IT IS name?

FOAD
--

Martin

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:57:33 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:55:30 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:14:33 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ...
... > ... There is one near Bugueles, but I don't know it's name.
... >
... >You don't know IT IS name?
...
... FOAD

Nope. Too young for both.

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:44:25 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:57:33 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:55:30 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:14:33 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
> ... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >
> ... > ...
> ... > ... There is one near Bugueles, but I don't know it's name.
> ... >
> ... >You don't know IT IS name?
> ...
> ... FOAD
>
>Nope. Too young for both.

LOL
--

Martin

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:

>> My friend and I went to Lindisfarne Island at the weekend.
>> Whilst we were there we were musing about where else
>> there are tidal causeways that you need to drive over.
>> I can think of a few that you walk over to reach the 'island':
>> St Michael's Mount, Burgh Island etc, but are there any
>> others that need to be driven to over a tidal causeway?
>
>I doubt there is any in the world that *needs* to be driven to ...

There is an imaginable circumstance: if the distance is too great to
walk in the timeframe allowed by low tide.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> My friend and I went to Lindisfarne Island at the weekend.
> >> Whilst we were there we were musing about where else
> >> there are tidal causeways that you need to drive over.
> >> I can think of a few that you walk over to reach the 'island':
> >> St Michael's Mount, Burgh Island etc, but are there any
> >> others that need to be driven to over a tidal causeway?
> >
> >I doubt there is any in the world that *needs* to be driven to ...
>
> There is an imaginable circumstance: if the distance is too great to
> walk in the timeframe allowed by low tide.

It's imaginable, but is there one? Meaning, a place that people tend to
go to see?

Jack's post reminded me that last time I walked to Hilbre Islands on the
Wirral there were a few morons in the distance chucking up the sand with
their 4x4s.

It was an amazing Spring day, a bit blustery but sunny, whipping up the
sand. A lot of people had the same idea and at one point we turned
around, and you could see dozens of people walking towards us (well
Hilbre)- Oscar said it was surreal, like something out of a movie! :)

--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:13:40 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> My friend and I went to Lindisfarne Island at the weekend.
>> >> Whilst we were there we were musing about where else
>> >> there are tidal causeways that you need to drive over.
>> >> I can think of a few that you walk over to reach the 'island':
>> >> St Michael's Mount, Burgh Island etc, but are there any
>> >> others that need to be driven to over a tidal causeway?
>> >
>> >I doubt there is any in the world that *needs* to be driven to ...
>>
>> There is an imaginable circumstance: if the distance is too great to
>> walk in the timeframe allowed by low tide.
>
>It's imaginable, but is there one? Meaning, a place that people tend to
>go to see?
>
>Jack's post reminded me that last time I walked to Hilbre Islands on the
>Wirral there were a few morons in the distance chucking up the sand with
>their 4x4s.
>
>It was an amazing Spring day, a bit blustery but sunny, whipping up the
>sand. A lot of people had the same idea and at one point we turned
>around, and you could see dozens of people walking towards us (well
>Hilbre)- Oscar said it was surreal, like something out of a movie! :)

Have you walked out to Lindisfarne?
--

Martin

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:13:40 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> My friend and I went to Lindisfarne Island at the weekend.
> >> >> Whilst we were there we were musing about where else
> >> >> there are tidal causeways that you need to drive over.
> >> >> I can think of a few that you walk over to reach the 'island':
> >> >> St Michael's Mount, Burgh Island etc, but are there any
> >> >> others that need to be driven to over a tidal causeway?
> >> >
> >> >I doubt there is any in the world that *needs* to be driven to ...
> >>
> >> There is an imaginable circumstance: if the distance is too great to
> >> walk in the timeframe allowed by low tide.
> >
> >It's imaginable, but is there one? Meaning, a place that people tend to
> >go to see?
> >
> >Jack's post reminded me that last time I walked to Hilbre Islands on the
> >Wirral there were a few morons in the distance chucking up the sand with
> >their 4x4s.
> >
> >It was an amazing Spring day, a bit blustery but sunny, whipping up the
> >sand. A lot of people had the same idea and at one point we turned
> >around, and you could see dozens of people walking towards us (well
> >Hilbre)- Oscar said it was surreal, like something out of a movie! :)
>
> Have you walked out to Lindisfarne?

Never- I plan to at some point.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:21:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:13:40 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> My friend and I went to Lindisfarne Island at the weekend.
>> >> >> Whilst we were there we were musing about where else
>> >> >> there are tidal causeways that you need to drive over.
>> >> >> I can think of a few that you walk over to reach the 'island':
>> >> >> St Michael's Mount, Burgh Island etc, but are there any
>> >> >> others that need to be driven to over a tidal causeway?
>> >> >
>> >> >I doubt there is any in the world that *needs* to be driven to ...
>> >>
>> >> There is an imaginable circumstance: if the distance is too great to
>> >> walk in the timeframe allowed by low tide.
>> >
>> >It's imaginable, but is there one? Meaning, a place that people tend to
>> >go to see?
>> >
>> >Jack's post reminded me that last time I walked to Hilbre Islands on the
>> >Wirral there were a few morons in the distance chucking up the sand with
>> >their 4x4s.
>> >
>> >It was an amazing Spring day, a bit blustery but sunny, whipping up the
>> >sand. A lot of people had the same idea and at one point we turned
>> >around, and you could see dozens of people walking towards us (well
>> >Hilbre)- Oscar said it was surreal, like something out of a movie! :)
>>
>> Have you walked out to Lindisfarne?
>
>Never- I plan to at some point.

Stay in the pub on the island. I must go again one day.
+
http://www.geoportail.fr/index.php?e...e118bf360578c5
for Bugueles

Showed up not only existing causeways but also some ancient ones that lead
nowhere. I recall seeing the ones that went nowhere and what I thought was a
stone circle that is only visible at low tide.


Back to last weekend
Did you donate to York Minster and get unlimited access for 12 months?
--

Martin

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:21:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> Have you walked out to Lindisfarne?
> >
> >Never- I plan to at some point.
>
> Stay in the pub on the island. I must go again one day.

Good point. I reall don't know that area very well at all, and might
plan a short trip some time.

[]
> Back to last weekend
> Did you donate to York Minster and get unlimited access for 12 months?

No, I didn't. It's unlikely I'd go again within 12 months though. FWIW,
I think the charging is a good thing. I'm assuming they had always
charged for the tower and crypt?

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:35:08 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:21:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> >> Have you walked out to Lindisfarne?
>> >
>> >Never- I plan to at some point.
>>
>> Stay in the pub on the island. I must go again one day.
>
>Good point. I reall don't know that area very well at all, and might
>plan a short trip some time.
>
>[]
>> Back to last weekend
>> Did you donate to York Minster and get unlimited access for 12 months?
>
>No, I didn't. It's unlikely I'd go again within 12 months though.

Maybe not, but we might :-)

They get tax relief on a donations but not on ticket sales. It is odd that they
trouble with ticket sales.

http://www.yorkminster.org/visiting/...trance-prices/
"Do Everything Ticket:

Entry to the Minster, Undercroft, Treasury and Crypt and Tower

Adult: £9.00
Senior (60+)/student: £7.50
Child: £3.00


Did you know you could get entry to the Minster for a year for the same amount
as a single day entry, and help the Minster in its daily life?

On arrival, simply complete our Gift Aid form and make a donation equal to or
more than the normal admission charge, and we will give you a pass valid for 12
months, which you can use on the day of your visit.

We are a charity; by making your donation under Gift Aid you will help us
enormously in our work. If you pay UK tax we can reclaim from the government 28p
for every £1 you give."

Useful for tourists!



>FWIW,
>I think the charging is a good thing. I'm assuming they had always
>charged for the tower and crypt?

The crypt and the undercroft aren't one and the same. The crypt used to be free.
From the Minster website it looks as if neither are anymore.
AFAIR they have charged for the undercroft ever since it was first opened to
the public. I've never been up the tower although my family have and they did
pay.

They don't quote a rate for indulgences.
--

Martin

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> My friend and I went to Lindisfarne Island at the weekend.
>> >> Whilst we were there we were musing about where else
>> >> there are tidal causeways that you need to drive over.
>> >> I can think of a few that you walk over to reach the 'island':
>> >> St Michael's Mount, Burgh Island etc, but are there any
>> >> others that need to be driven to over a tidal causeway?
>> >
>> >I doubt there is any in the world that *needs* to be driven to ...
>>
>> There is an imaginable circumstance: if the distance is too great to
>> walk in the timeframe allowed by low tide.
>
>It's imaginable, but is there one? Meaning, a place that people tend to
>go to see?
>
I doubt it. The few tidal causeways of which I am aware were built
before motor vehicles were available, so were limited to distances
that were walkable. A change in tidal patterns or topography might
alter things, but the probability that a walking distance become a
driving distance seems low.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:35:08 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> Back to last weekend
> >> Did you donate to York Minster and get unlimited access for 12 months?
> >
> >No, I didn't. It's unlikely I'd go again within 12 months though.
>
> Maybe not, but we might :-)
>
> They get tax relief on a donations but not on ticket sales. It is odd
> that they trouble with ticket sales.
[]

It's a pity they didn't publicise this better at the ticket desks- I
might well have paid a quid more for the pass just to help them...

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:54:20 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:35:08 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> >> Back to last weekend
>> >> Did you donate to York Minster and get unlimited access for 12 months?
>> >
>> >No, I didn't. It's unlikely I'd go again within 12 months though.
>>
>> Maybe not, but we might :-)
>>
>> They get tax relief on a donations but not on ticket sales. It is odd
>> that they trouble with ticket sales.
>[]
>
>It's a pity they didn't publicise this better at the ticket desks- I
>might well have paid a quid more for the pass just to help them...

The pass is the same price as a ticket . I've only ever seen it publicised on
their website and even then it appears to have been tacked on as an after
thought. How about the CofE marketing a ticket that gives access to all their
churches for 12 months?
--

Martin

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

tim..... a écrit :
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:06:57 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:47:55 +0100, "tim....."
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My friend and I went to Lindisfarne Island at the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whilst we were there we were musing about where else
>>>>> there are tidal causeways that you need to drive over.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can think of a few that you walk over to reach the 'island':
>>>>> St Michael's Mount, Burgh Island etc, but are there any
>>>>> others that need to be driven to over a tidal causeway?
>>>> There are some in France.
>>> You couldn't be more specific?
>> There is one near Bugueles, but I don't know it's name. There are tidal
>> routes
>> across bays in the same area - Cote d'Amor.
>
> My map shows none of these.
>
> I've found one at Baie de Morlaix (Ile Callot).
>
> I scoured the whole of the Med coastline and not found a single one :-)
>
> There's one across the bay (river mouth?)Ilat St Martin, but I don't think
> that counts as neither end is an island.
>
> Ah found another, at Ile Madame

http://www.bernezac.com/Madame_uk.htm
Much shorter than in the traditional road to Noirmoutier island.
Ile Madame itself is very small.

>
> tim
>
>
> tim
>
>

Re: Tidal Causeways
 

tim..... a écrit :
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:06:57 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:47:55 +0100, "tim....."
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My friend and I went to Lindisfarne Island at the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whilst we were there we were musing about where else
>>>>> there are tidal causeways that you need to drive over.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can think of a few that you walk over to reach the 'island':
>>>>> St Michael's Mount, Burgh Island etc, but are there any
>>>>> others that need to be driven to over a tidal causeway?
>>>> There are some in France.
>>> You couldn't be more specific?
>> There is one near Bugueles, but I don't know it's name. There are tidal
>> routes
>> across bays in the same area - Cote d'Amor.
>
> My map shows none of these.
>
> I've found one at Baie de Morlaix (Ile Callot).
>
> I scoured the whole of the Med coastline and not found a single one :-)
>
> There's one across the bay (river mouth?) at St Martin, but I don't think
> that counts as neither end is an island.
>
> Ah found another, at Ile Madame
>
> tim
>
>
> tim
>
>
The road to Noirmoutier is the longest submersible road in Europe 4km
and was the only road to Noirmoutier, usable 2H a day, until 1971.

Bricqueville sur mer (route submersible) near Omaha Beach.
http://www.environnement-sante-manch...F/vanlee04.pdf

Another near Carantec or Morlaix(ile callot)
http://www.ville-carantec.com/
http://ilecallot.free.fr/callot.htm

Many tidal roads in North Wales in Anglesey.