Talk like a Venetian?
Aug 12th 2007, 9:42 am
#31
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Re: Talk like a Venetian?
On 9 Sie, 12:59, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...07/08/09/wveni...
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> Martin
Last year we went to Venice. We spent there 9 days and we remember it
as a very nice stay. Of course, everybody knows that Venice is
expensive. It really is. Especially when compared to other Italian
cities. But then how many Venices are there in the world? It unique,
nobody can deny it.
We ate in the city in many parts of it as we tried to visit all the
Venice's districts. Never were we treated rude by waiters/waitresses
(in fact some of them are deep in our hearts) and never did the price
list differ from what we were to pay for the food and drinks ordered.
Just to make it clear, we do not speak either Italian or Venetian. We
communicated nicely in English.
And one more thing. Being polite is as good piece of advice here as in
every other aspect of life.
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...07/08/09/wveni...
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> Martin
Last year we went to Venice. We spent there 9 days and we remember it
as a very nice stay. Of course, everybody knows that Venice is
expensive. It really is. Especially when compared to other Italian
cities. But then how many Venices are there in the world? It unique,
nobody can deny it.
We ate in the city in many parts of it as we tried to visit all the
Venice's districts. Never were we treated rude by waiters/waitresses
(in fact some of them are deep in our hearts) and never did the price
list differ from what we were to pay for the food and drinks ordered.
Just to make it clear, we do not speak either Italian or Venetian. We
communicated nicely in English.
And one more thing. Being polite is as good piece of advice here as in
every other aspect of life.
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Aug 12th 2007, 10:02 am
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Re: Talk like a Venetian?
ptv <[email protected]> wrote:
>And one more thing. Being polite is as good piece of advice here as in
>every other aspect of life.
No. Nononono. NO!
No.
The want your money. They need your money. Without you, the visitor,
they would live in poverty, and their lives would have no meaning..
They should be grateful that you spend your money there, and
particularly grateful if you make the American mistake of tipping too
much.
It's too much for them to expect politeness with it. Remember: without
you, they are nothing.
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>And one more thing. Being polite is as good piece of advice here as in
>every other aspect of life.
No. Nononono. NO!
No.
The want your money. They need your money. Without you, the visitor,
they would live in poverty, and their lives would have no meaning..
They should be grateful that you spend your money there, and
particularly grateful if you make the American mistake of tipping too
much.
It's too much for them to expect politeness with it. Remember: without
you, they are nothing.
--
PB
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My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
Aug 12th 2007, 3:13 pm
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Re: Talk like a Venetian?
Make credence recognised that on Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:02:28 +0100,
Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> has scripted:
>ptv <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>And one more thing. Being polite is as good piece of advice here as in
>>every other aspect of life.
>
>No. Nononono. NO!
>
>No.
>
>The want your money. They need your money. Without you, the visitor,
>they would live in poverty, and their lives would have no meaning..
>
>They should be grateful that you spend your money there, and
>particularly grateful if you make the American mistake of tipping too
>much.
>
>It's too much for them to expect politeness with it. Remember: without
>you, they are nothing.
The prices are so high that it's unreasonable to have to be polite
too. That's just letting them know what a sucker you are.
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Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> has scripted:
>ptv <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>And one more thing. Being polite is as good piece of advice here as in
>>every other aspect of life.
>
>No. Nononono. NO!
>
>No.
>
>The want your money. They need your money. Without you, the visitor,
>they would live in poverty, and their lives would have no meaning..
>
>They should be grateful that you spend your money there, and
>particularly grateful if you make the American mistake of tipping too
>much.
>
>It's too much for them to expect politeness with it. Remember: without
>you, they are nothing.
The prices are so high that it's unreasonable to have to be polite
too. That's just letting them know what a sucker you are.
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Aug 13th 2007, 5:08 pm
#34
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Re: Talk like a Venetian?
On 12 Sie, 17:13, Doesn't Frequently Mop
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:02:28 +0100,
> Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
> >ptv <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>And one more thing. Being polite is as good piece of advice here as in
> >>every other aspect of life.
>
> >No. Nononono. NO!
>
> >No.
>
> >The want your money. They need your money. Without you, the visitor,
> >they would live in poverty, and their lives would have no meaning..
>
> >They should be grateful that you spend your money there, and
> >particularly grateful if you make the American mistake of tipping too
> >much.
>
> >It's too much for them to expect politeness with it. Remember: without
> >you, they are nothing.
>
> The prices are so high that it's unreasonable to have to be polite
> too. That's just letting them know what a sucker you are.
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Still, I cannot agree. Being polite does not show your degree of
"suckerness", let's call it.
Being polite does show the degree of how well-mannered you have
managed to get
during your lifetime. It's simple as that. Regardless of the place,
mind you.
Be it some small village or Venice itself. If you truly ARE polite,
you simply
are polite all the time, with no exceptions.
And that they charge too much? Yes, of course they do.
But the text was about being taken in. If somebody can read
and understand what they read at the same time, they will be able to
read the prices
on the menu or the price list and decide whether they wish to pay such
a sum or not.
We followed that very scheme and were never fooled.
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<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:02:28 +0100,
> Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
> >ptv <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>And one more thing. Being polite is as good piece of advice here as in
> >>every other aspect of life.
>
> >No. Nononono. NO!
>
> >No.
>
> >The want your money. They need your money. Without you, the visitor,
> >they would live in poverty, and their lives would have no meaning..
>
> >They should be grateful that you spend your money there, and
> >particularly grateful if you make the American mistake of tipping too
> >much.
>
> >It's too much for them to expect politeness with it. Remember: without
> >you, they are nothing.
>
> The prices are so high that it's unreasonable to have to be polite
> too. That's just letting them know what a sucker you are.
> --
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> DFM -http://www.deepfriedmars.com
> ---
> --
Still, I cannot agree. Being polite does not show your degree of
"suckerness", let's call it.
Being polite does show the degree of how well-mannered you have
managed to get
during your lifetime. It's simple as that. Regardless of the place,
mind you.
Be it some small village or Venice itself. If you truly ARE polite,
you simply
are polite all the time, with no exceptions.
And that they charge too much? Yes, of course they do.
But the text was about being taken in. If somebody can read
and understand what they read at the same time, they will be able to
read the prices
on the menu or the price list and decide whether they wish to pay such
a sum or not.
We followed that very scheme and were never fooled.
--
http://places-to-visit.info
Aug 20th 2007, 8:48 pm
#35
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Re: Talk like a Venetian?
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:50:25 -0700, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Herself and I are not paranoid (well, I think we are not). We are
>aware that some people see tourists as easy prey for ripoffs, so we
>pay some attention to posted prices and to the calculation of bills.
>
>We found price information everywhere we went in Venice, and there was
>no funny business in making up our bills. The prices were generally
>very high, but that's another question.
I agree with all of the above. The article quoted a price of 3.50 for
a cappucino and brioche *if* you're Italian (more for tourists).
That's exactly double what we pay in Le Marche, a bit south of Venice.
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Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Herself and I are not paranoid (well, I think we are not). We are
>aware that some people see tourists as easy prey for ripoffs, so we
>pay some attention to posted prices and to the calculation of bills.
>
>We found price information everywhere we went in Venice, and there was
>no funny business in making up our bills. The prices were generally
>very high, but that's another question.
I agree with all of the above. The article quoted a price of 3.50 for
a cappucino and brioche *if* you're Italian (more for tourists).
That's exactly double what we pay in Le Marche, a bit south of Venice.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Aug 20th 2007, 9:44 pm
#36
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Re: Talk like a Venetian?
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:48:26 +0200, B
Vaughan<[email protected]> has scripted:
>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:50:25 -0700, Padraig Breathnach
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Herself and I are not paranoid (well, I think we are not). We are
>>aware that some people see tourists as easy prey for ripoffs, so we
>>pay some attention to posted prices and to the calculation of bills.
>>
>>We found price information everywhere we went in Venice, and there was
>>no funny business in making up our bills. The prices were generally
>>very high, but that's another question.
>
>I agree with all of the above. The article quoted a price of 3.50 for
>a cappucino and brioche *if* you're Italian (more for tourists).
>That's exactly double what we pay in Le Marche, a bit south of Venice.
Here you would pay 2 euro for that. Not bad, considering that's what
many Italians call breakfast.
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Vaughan<[email protected]> has scripted:
>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:50:25 -0700, Padraig Breathnach
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Herself and I are not paranoid (well, I think we are not). We are
>>aware that some people see tourists as easy prey for ripoffs, so we
>>pay some attention to posted prices and to the calculation of bills.
>>
>>We found price information everywhere we went in Venice, and there was
>>no funny business in making up our bills. The prices were generally
>>very high, but that's another question.
>
>I agree with all of the above. The article quoted a price of 3.50 for
>a cappucino and brioche *if* you're Italian (more for tourists).
>That's exactly double what we pay in Le Marche, a bit south of Venice.
Here you would pay 2 euro for that. Not bad, considering that's what
many Italians call breakfast.
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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