Hey everyone,
I was just doing some research, me and my husband are talking about
moving back to England next year. We have 4 cats and could never leave
them behind, I was THRILLED to hear that the United States was now
included in the PETS scheme. I called Northwest today and asked them
about the costs of transporting our pets from Detroit to London's
Gatwick airport. She <who was super friendly and helpful might I add!>
asked me what size carrier, I told her my cats were quite small, so she
guessed in the 10-12lb range <including carrier>. She said a rough
estimate would be $640.00 for all four cats, plus she mentioned some
kind of tax or gas fee of $25-30. I forgot to ask if this was for each
cat or total. She also said that once I arrive in London, I will have
to bring them over to some kind of pets inspection/check in and I guess
show them my paperwork, show that the microchips work, etc. She said
this would cost an addition $330.00. So if you break it down, it ends
up being roughly about $250/cat. They also are required to get
microchipped, rabies vaccinated, tapeworm vaccinated and i believe
another kind of blood test plus a followup. So who knows how much all
that will add up to! But when it comes down to it, pets can be like
your children and I know as much as it costs, Id rather sacrifice
another luxury then leave my little family behind! I hope this helps a
few people out, as I had been doing searches all over the net and find
lots of info on the PETS scheme but nothing about costs. :-)

[email protected] discussed bringing pets into Europe.

Last year I moved with my cat from Saudi Arabia to Germany. After
microchipping, then vaccination, the cat had to have a blood test with
the blood being sent to Europe for testing. (Luckily, they had backed
off all these provisions as they weren't ready to implement it then.)
If these requirements remain the same, the whole process took at least
6 months, so be sure to start early enough before you travel. I was
also allowed to take the cat with me in the cabin on Lufthansa, but
only if flying business class, and then only in a ridiculously small
container that would fit under the seat ahead of me.

George

[email protected] wrote:

    > Hey everyone,
    > I was just doing some research, me and my husband are talking about
    > moving back to England next year. We have 4 cats and could never leave
    > them behind, I was THRILLED to hear that the United States was now
    > included in the PETS scheme. I called Northwest today and asked them
    > about the costs of transporting our pets from Detroit to London's
    > Gatwick airport. She <who was super friendly and helpful might I add!>
    > asked me what size carrier, I told her my cats were quite small, so she
    > guessed in the 10-12lb range <including carrier>. She said a rough
    > estimate would be $640.00 for all four cats, plus she mentioned some
    > kind of tax or gas fee of $25-30. I forgot to ask if this was for each
    > cat or total. She also said that once I arrive in London, I will have
    > to bring them over to some kind of pets inspection/check in and I guess
    > show them my paperwork, show that the microchips work, etc. She said
    > this would cost an addition $330.00. So if you break it down, it ends
    > up being roughly about $250/cat. They also are required to get
    > microchipped, rabies vaccinated, tapeworm vaccinated and i believe
    > another kind of blood test plus a followup. So who knows how much all
    > that will add up to! But when it comes down to it, pets can be like
    > your children and I know as much as it costs, Id rather sacrifice
    > another luxury then leave my little family behind! I hope this helps a
    > few people out, as I had been doing searches all over the net and find
    > lots of info on the PETS scheme but nothing about costs. :-)

Thanks for providing some useful information on a subject
that is a bit out of the ordinary.

Of COURSE you must take your cats, if you're moving
permanently! It's true some people might object to the
trouble and expense, but then, some people abandon their
children, too - that doesn't make it right. To most
pet-owners, the pets are part of their family, so the
question of whether or not to include them in a move never
arises.

I thought England had some very long quarantine period, like months, is
this not the case any more?
--
wf.

[email protected] wrote:
    >
    > Hey everyone,
    > I was just doing some research, me and my husband are talking about
    > moving back to England next year. We have 4 cats and could never leave
    > them behind, I was THRILLED to hear that the United States was now
    > included in the PETS scheme. I called Northwest today and asked them
    > about the costs of transporting our pets from Detroit to London's
    > Gatwick airport. She <who was super friendly and helpful might I add!>
    > asked me what size carrier, I told her my cats were quite small, so she
    > guessed in the 10-12lb range <including carrier>. She said a rough
    > estimate would be $640.00 for all four cats, plus she mentioned some
    > kind of tax or gas fee of $25-30. I forgot to ask if this was for each
    > cat or total. She also said that once I arrive in London, I will have
    > to bring them over to some kind of pets inspection/check in and I guess
    > show them my paperwork, show that the microchips work, etc. She said
    > this would cost an addition $330.00. So if you break it down, it ends
    > up being roughly about $250/cat. They also are required to get
    > microchipped, rabies vaccinated, tapeworm vaccinated and i believe
    > another kind of blood test plus a followup. So who knows how much all
    > that will add up to! But when it comes down to it, pets can be
<<snip>>

randee <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I thought England had some very long quarantine period, like months, is
    > this not the case any more?

It is possible to tak animals into the UK now, avoiding the quarantine
process- requires innoculations, chips etc. I didn't realise it applied
to the US, but I don't care. I find the idea of transporting pets in
cargo holds just so you can take them on holiday with you appalling,
quite frankly.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

<[email protected]> wrote:.


    > Hey everyone,
    > I was just doing some research, me and my husband are talking about
    > moving back to England next year. We have 4 cats and could never leave
    > them behind, I was THRILLED to hear that the United States was now
    > included in the PETS scheme. I called Northwest today and asked them
    > about the costs of transporting our pets from Detroit to London's
    > Gatwick airport. She <who was super friendly and helpful might I add!>
    > asked me what size carrier, I told her my cats were quite small, so she
    > guessed in the 10-12lb range <including carrier>. She said a rough
    > estimate would be $640.00 for all four cats, plus she mentioned some
    > kind of tax or gas fee of $25-30. I forgot to ask if this was for each
    > cat or total. She also said that once I arrive in London, I will have
    > to bring them over to some kind of pets inspection/check in and I guess
    > show them my paperwork, show that the microchips work, etc. She said
    > this would cost an addition $330.00. So if you break it down, it ends
    > up being roughly about $250/cat. They also are required to get
    > microchipped, rabies vaccinated, tapeworm vaccinated and i believe
    > another kind of blood test plus a followup. So who knows how much all
    > that will add up to! But when it comes down to it, pets can be like
    > your children and I know as much as it costs, Id rather sacrifice
    > another luxury then leave my little family behind! I hope this helps a
    > few people out, as I had been doing searches all over the net and find
    > lots of info on the PETS scheme but nothing about costs. :-)


Now if they'd only require this sort of thing for children we'd have a lot
less of those "Kids On Airplanes" threads...

--
Best
Greg

[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses
o' th' barn and prestwich tesco) wrote in news:1gyw15a.1ahipad1p3tkz3N%
[email protected]:

    > randee <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I thought England had some very long quarantine period, like months,
is
    >> this not the case any more?
    >
    > It is possible to tak animals into the UK now, avoiding the quarantine
    > process- requires innoculations, chips etc. I didn't realise it
applied
    > to the US, but I don't care. I find the idea of transporting pets in
    > cargo holds just so you can take them on holiday with you appalling,
    > quite frankly.
    >

wouldn't want my dog in the hold, but he is small and travels in the
cabin with the rest of the people.

--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

jcoulter <[email protected]> wrote:

    > [email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses
    > o' th' barn and prestwich tesco) wrote in news:1gyw15a.1ahipad1p3tkz3N%
    > [email protected]:
    >
    > > randee <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I thought England had some very long quarantine period, like months,
    > is
    > >> this not the case any more?
    > >
    > > It is possible to tak animals into the UK now, avoiding the quarantine
    > > process- requires innoculations, chips etc. I didn't realise it
    > applied
    > > to the US, but I don't care. I find the idea of transporting pets in
    > > cargo holds just so you can take them on holiday with you appalling,
    > > quite frankly.
    > >
    >
    > wouldn't want my dog in the hold, but he is small and travels in the
    > cabin with the rest of the people.

Not all airlines allow that, thank goodness. A lot of people have
allergies to dogs and cats. I don't see why we should have to be couped
up with them for several hours. It's obviously a rare occurence. Out of
over a hundred transatlantic flights, I don't remember seeing a caged
animal _once_ on a flight.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

Hi there,
Im glad this information was helpful. In response to some of the
comments/questions, yes there used to be a required 6 month quarantin
required for pets, but the United States was just recently included in
the list of countries that are now included in the PETS scheme <I
believe it was just March of this year>.I believe the only airlines
that participate are Northwest and British Airways. I was also
concerned about the whole "Putting them in the cargo hold" thing as
well but I spoke to the Northwest emplyee about it and she told me that
it is a special temperature controled hold for pets in which they will
be treated very carefully and they keep it nice and fairly dark as it
is noticed to be much easier/less stressful on pets when they travel in
the dark. I would never have my pets go through the stress of travel
like that if it was just for a holiday as someone said they found the
idea 'appalling' but we would be doing this because we are planning on
moving there permanantly, not just for a vacation. The only option left
would be for us to move and give them to an animal shelter, as none of
my friends like cats and my family already have pets and no one would
be willing to take them. They have all been raised together since they
were born and I couldnt imagine splitting them up and giving them to
complete strangers, I would say that this would be FAR more stressful
and unfair to the pet then a flight.

chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich
tesco wrote:

    > randee <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I thought England had some very long quarantine period, like months, is
    >>this not the case any more?
    >
    >
    > It is possible to tak animals into the UK now, avoiding the quarantine
    > process- requires innoculations, chips etc. I didn't realise it applied
    > to the US, but I don't care. I find the idea of transporting pets in
    > cargo holds just so you can take them on holiday with you appalling,
    > quite frankly.

You didn't read the original post! I agree with you, where
holidaying is concerned (especially cats, who are most often
reluctant travelers). However, the lady is MOVING to
England - it's a choice of taking her furry family with her,
or leaving them behind. (I know SOME people would abandon
them, but they're the sort who disown their children on the
slightest provocation, too.)

[email protected] wrote:

    > Hi there,
    > Im glad this information was helpful. In response to some of the
    > comments/questions, yes there used to be a required 6 month quarantin
    > required for pets, but the United States was just recently included in
    > the list of countries that are now included in the PETS scheme <I
    > believe it was just March of this year>.I believe the only airlines
    > that participate are Northwest and British Airways. I was also
    > concerned about the whole "Putting them in the cargo hold" thing as
    > well but I spoke to the Northwest emplyee about it and she told me that
    > it is a special temperature controled hold for pets in which they will
    > be treated very carefully and they keep it nice and fairly dark as it
    > is noticed to be much easier/less stressful on pets when they travel in
    > the dark. I would never have my pets go through the stress of travel
    > like that if it was just for a holiday as someone said they found the
    > idea 'appalling' but we would be doing this because we are planning on
    > moving there permanantly, not just for a vacation. The only option left
    > would be for us to move and give them to an animal shelter, as none of
    > my friends like cats and my family already have pets and no one would
    > be willing to take them. They have all been raised together since they
    > were born and I couldnt imagine splitting them up and giving them to
    > complete strangers, I would say that this would be FAR more stressful
    > and unfair to the pet then a flight.

The person who made that comment apparently feels no
affinity for companion animals (as a later post made clear).
He'd probably do as so many "summer people" do where a
friend of mine lives (in a Northern Minnesota "resort"
area). Every fall she finds herself rescuing and/or
adopting cats people got for their kids to play with during
the summer, then abandoned in the woods when they returned home.

Thank you to everyone who had a positive reaction to me not wanting to
abandon my animals. They are definately part of the family. The
reality of us moving back to England had been pretty much dismissed
before the US was including in the PETS scheme because there was no way
we would subject them to a 6 month seperation in quarantine. Obviously
I am a very responsible pet owner if I would not move if it meant
leaving them behind. I would never do anything to put them in jeopardy.
Thanks again for the understanding comments.

Erin