Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
Feb 8th 2007, 4:14 pm
#46
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:24:55 GMT, ching-gow@r�lant.org wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:13:53 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I get attacked by the PC brigade and by nasty racists.
>
>Then you should get out of the middle of the road and take a stand on
>one side or the other. It's not an easy thing to do but at least then
>you only have to watch the traffic coming from one direction and you
>get a lot more respect for taking a stand rather than trying to dodge
>issues from both sides.
Well said, that man.
>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:13:53 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I get attacked by the PC brigade and by nasty racists.
>
>Then you should get out of the middle of the road and take a stand on
>one side or the other. It's not an easy thing to do but at least then
>you only have to watch the traffic coming from one direction and you
>get a lot more respect for taking a stand rather than trying to dodge
>issues from both sides.
Well said, that man.
Feb 8th 2007, 4:16 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:26:35 GMT, ching-gow@r�lant.org wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:29:27 +0000, Hooch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:24:24 GMT, "john doe" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>London Assembly member Jenny Jones wants cops to focus on uninsured
>>>drivers on their beats. She said: "The point is that we still have
>>>more deaths from road crashes than shootings and stabbings in
>>>Southwark. "We need a lot of enforcement to clamp down on uninsured
>>>drivers and we're not getting it at the moment. "This is the sort of
>>>
>>>the usual bollocks, just because someone is uninsured doesn't mean they are
>>>going to be an unsafe driver.
>>
>>If someone doesn't have insurance (the main purpose of which seems to
>>be to qualify for road tax) , why would they bother with shit like
>>MOTs?
>
>People are never more careful than when they are breaking the law.
Perhaps, but excessive caution can also lead to accidents.
>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:29:27 +0000, Hooch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:24:24 GMT, "john doe" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>London Assembly member Jenny Jones wants cops to focus on uninsured
>>>drivers on their beats. She said: "The point is that we still have
>>>more deaths from road crashes than shootings and stabbings in
>>>Southwark. "We need a lot of enforcement to clamp down on uninsured
>>>drivers and we're not getting it at the moment. "This is the sort of
>>>
>>>the usual bollocks, just because someone is uninsured doesn't mean they are
>>>going to be an unsafe driver.
>>
>>If someone doesn't have insurance (the main purpose of which seems to
>>be to qualify for road tax) , why would they bother with shit like
>>MOTs?
>
>People are never more careful than when they are breaking the law.
Perhaps, but excessive caution can also lead to accidents.
Feb 8th 2007, 7:25 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:47:35 GMT, "McKev" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Vote the BNP into government
>>
>>Get out of the Human Rights Act
>>
>>Stop immigration."
>>
>>To the right of this was an arrow and the following text;
>>
>>"By a man who USED [underlined] to be English and proud"
>
> sad, innit.
Yep, it really is sad that the country has got into such a state.......
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:47:35 GMT, "McKev" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Vote the BNP into government
>>
>>Get out of the Human Rights Act
>>
>>Stop immigration."
>>
>>To the right of this was an arrow and the following text;
>>
>>"By a man who USED [underlined] to be English and proud"
>
> sad, innit.
Yep, it really is sad that the country has got into such a state.......
Feb 8th 2007, 9:59 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
"GeoffC" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
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>
> Ahem, misunderstanding I fear. Nik is referring to the fact that in most
> European countries the vehicle is insured irrespective of who is driving
> it. In the UK it is usually restricted as to who is insured to drive a
> vehicle.
I see.
viestiss�:[email protected] l...
>
> Ahem, misunderstanding I fear. Nik is referring to the fact that in most
> European countries the vehicle is insured irrespective of who is driving
> it. In the UK it is usually restricted as to who is insured to drive a
> vehicle.
I see.
Feb 9th 2007, 5:53 am
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and
Brimstone wrote:
> Hooch wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:45:10 -0000, "Brimstone" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Hooch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In neighbouring Brixton
>>>>>> and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not insured.
>>>>>> Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of people in
>>>>>> Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a crash.
>>>>> This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other
>>>>> European countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and it
>>>>> is impossible to get number plates without an insurance policy.
>>>> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you let
>>>> the insurance lapse?
>>> AIUI there's an indicator on the plates to show the expiry date.
>> A sticker?
>
> No.
>
>
In British Columbia they have a metal token which drops into a slot in
the number plate.
> Hooch wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:45:10 -0000, "Brimstone" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Hooch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In neighbouring Brixton
>>>>>> and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not insured.
>>>>>> Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of people in
>>>>>> Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a crash.
>>>>> This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other
>>>>> European countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and it
>>>>> is impossible to get number plates without an insurance policy.
>>>> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you let
>>>> the insurance lapse?
>>> AIUI there's an indicator on the plates to show the expiry date.
>> A sticker?
>
> No.
>
>
In British Columbia they have a metal token which drops into a slot in
the number plate.
Feb 9th 2007, 9:05 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and
Hooch wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>In neighbouring Brixton
>>
>>>and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not insured.
>>>Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of people in
>>>Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a crash.
>>
>>This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other European
>>countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and it is impossible
>>to get number plates without an insurance policy.
>
>
> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you let
> the insurance lapse?
>
The police come round and remove the number plates.
T.
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>In neighbouring Brixton
>>
>>>and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not insured.
>>>Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of people in
>>>Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a crash.
>>
>>This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other European
>>countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and it is impossible
>>to get number plates without an insurance policy.
>
>
> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you let
> the insurance lapse?
>
The police come round and remove the number plates.
T.
Feb 9th 2007, 9:06 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
"Tom Peel" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
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> Hooch wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In neighbouring Brixton
>>>
>>>>and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not insured.
>>>>Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of people in
>>>>Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a crash.
>>>
>>>This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other European
>>>countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and it is impossible
>>>to get number plates without an insurance policy.
>>
>>
>> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you let
>> the insurance lapse?
>>
> The police come round and remove the number plates.
>
So it is everywhere naturally.
viestiss�:[email protected]...
> Hooch wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In neighbouring Brixton
>>>
>>>>and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not insured.
>>>>Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of people in
>>>>Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a crash.
>>>
>>>This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other European
>>>countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and it is impossible
>>>to get number plates without an insurance policy.
>>
>>
>> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you let
>> the insurance lapse?
>>
> The police come round and remove the number plates.
>
So it is everywhere naturally.
Feb 10th 2007, 2:54 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:31:38 -0000, "Brimstone" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hooch wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:45:10 -0000, "Brimstone" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Hooch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In neighbouring Brixton
>>>>>> and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not insured.
>>>>>> Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of people in
>>>>>> Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other
>>>>> European countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and it
>>>>> is impossible to get number plates without an insurance policy.
>>>>
>>>> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you let
>>>> the insurance lapse?
>>>
>>> AIUI there's an indicator on the plates to show the expiry date.
>>
>> A sticker?
>
>No.
You mean they have to change the plates annually, then?
Or what?
wrote:
>Hooch wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:45:10 -0000, "Brimstone" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Hooch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In neighbouring Brixton
>>>>>> and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not insured.
>>>>>> Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of people in
>>>>>> Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other
>>>>> European countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and it
>>>>> is impossible to get number plates without an insurance policy.
>>>>
>>>> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you let
>>>> the insurance lapse?
>>>
>>> AIUI there's an indicator on the plates to show the expiry date.
>>
>> A sticker?
>
>No.
You mean they have to change the plates annually, then?
Or what?
Feb 10th 2007, 4:25 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:50:40 +0000, Hooch <[email protected]> wrote:
<[email protected]>
>For "South London", "Southwark", "Walworth" etc read "ethnically
>diverse".
"Political Correctness" is the absurd notion that it's possible to pick up a
turd from the clean end.
(change Arabic number to Roman numeral to email)
<[email protected]>
>For "South London", "Southwark", "Walworth" etc read "ethnically
>diverse".
"Political Correctness" is the absurd notion that it's possible to pick up a
turd from the clean end.
(change Arabic number to Roman numeral to email)
Feb 10th 2007, 9:12 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:25:44 -0500, Frank Clarke
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:50:40 +0000, Hooch <[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]>
>
>>For "South London", "Southwark", "Walworth" etc read "ethnically
>>diverse".
>
>"Political Correctness" is the absurd notion that it's possible to pick up a
>turd from the clean end.
Yes, but we mustn't blame the ethnically challenged for all of
society's ills.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:50:40 +0000, Hooch <[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]>
>
>>For "South London", "Southwark", "Walworth" etc read "ethnically
>>diverse".
>
>"Political Correctness" is the absurd notion that it's possible to pick up a
>turd from the clean end.
Yes, but we mustn't blame the ethnically challenged for all of
society's ills.
Feb 10th 2007, 11:56 pm
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
Hooch wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:31:38 -0000, "Brimstone" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hooch wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:45:10 -0000, "Brimstone"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Hooch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In neighbouring Brixton
>>>>>>> and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not
>>>>>>> insured. Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of
>>>>>>> people in Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a
>>>>>>> crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other
>>>>>> European countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and
>>>>>> it is impossible to get number plates without an insurance
>>>>>> policy.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you
>>>>> let the insurance lapse?
>>>>
>>>> AIUI there's an indicator on the plates to show the expiry date.
>>>
>>> A sticker?
>>
>> No.
>
> You mean they have to change the plates annually, then?
> Or what?
Those that I saw when in Germany had a small disc that was somehow locked
into the plate. I don't know the details.
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:31:38 -0000, "Brimstone" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hooch wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:45:10 -0000, "Brimstone"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Hooch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:41 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In neighbouring Brixton
>>>>>>> and Stockwell a massive 44.2 per cent of vehicles are not
>>>>>>> insured. Safety campaigners say this is why 16.8 per cent of
>>>>>>> people in Southwark and 13.7 per cent in Lambeth flee after a
>>>>>>> crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This shows the weakness of the UK insurance system. In other
>>>>>> European countries, the vehicle is insured, not the driver, and
>>>>>> it is impossible to get number plates without an insurance
>>>>>> policy.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what happens when you already have your number plates and you
>>>>> let the insurance lapse?
>>>>
>>>> AIUI there's an indicator on the plates to show the expiry date.
>>>
>>> A sticker?
>>
>> No.
>
> You mean they have to change the plates annually, then?
> Or what?
Those that I saw when in Germany had a small disc that was somehow locked
into the plate. I don't know the details.
Feb 11th 2007, 12:33 am
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
Brimstone <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> You mean they have to change the plates annually, then?
>> Or what?
>
> Those that I saw when in Germany had a small disc that was somehow
> locked into the plate. I don't know the details.
I think that is just an embossed seal validation from the issuing authority.
They don't expire AFAIK.
These folks seem to know a lot about them
http://www.german-number-plates.com/index
Dutch plates used to have a sticker for the MOT but they don't do that
anymore.
--
Geoff
>>
>> You mean they have to change the plates annually, then?
>> Or what?
>
> Those that I saw when in Germany had a small disc that was somehow
> locked into the plate. I don't know the details.
I think that is just an embossed seal validation from the issuing authority.
They don't expire AFAIK.
These folks seem to know a lot about them
http://www.german-number-plates.com/index
Dutch plates used to have a sticker for the MOT but they don't do that
anymore.
--
Geoff
Mar 11th 2007, 6:18 am
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Re: Some good news from South London: Road deaths outnumber gun and knife murders
>
> For "South London", "Southwark", "Walworth" etc read " ****in sarf London mate"
>
> For "South London", "Southwark", "Walworth" etc read " ****in sarf London mate"
>
