Solar boat makes Atlantic history
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Solar boat makes Atlantic history
The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
Enlarge Image
A five-strong Swiss crew have sailed into history by completing the
first solar-powered transatlantic crossing.
The Sun21 catamaran arrived in Miami late on Thursday, 117 days after
leaving Seville in southern Spain.
The crew of four academics and one full-time sailor said they were
trying to promote the "great potential" of solar power to combat
climate change.
A similar-sized boat would have used about 72 litres of diesel every
24 hours on the same voyage.
After reaching Miami, crew member Dr Martin Vosseler told the BBC it
was a thrilling experience.
"The crossing itself, from Las Palmas to Martinique - 29 days of not
seeing any land - that was fantastic. We had very much luck - no
storms.
"This trip is like a galaxy and the stars - all these encounters with
very welcoming, hospitable people and all the natural miracles we
encountered. So I feel very well."
'Energy of the future'
The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
Crew of the Sun21
The crew were retracing Christopher Columbus's voyage
During the day, the 48 solar panels on its roof gather energy from the
sun. The power is stored in batteries, which allow it to sail through
the night.
Dr Vosseler said he was "astonished" that there were not more solar-
powered boats.
The crew of the Sun21 retraced the path Christopher Columbus took on
his historic voyage to the New World more than 500 years ago.
Daniel Weiner, the group's spokesman, said they were trying to change
people's thinking on renewable energy.
"Just as Columbus changed the mindshift [mindset] of his time [by
showing] that the Earth was round and not flat, we want to show that
the energy future looks different than the past."
The boat will now sail up the east coast of the US, from Miami to New
York, where it will stay on display for several weeks before
eventually returning to Spain.
Solar boat makes Atlantic history
The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
Enlarge Image
A five-strong Swiss crew have sailed into history by completing the
first solar-powered transatlantic crossing.
The Sun21 catamaran arrived in Miami late on Thursday, 117 days after
leaving Seville in southern Spain.
The crew of four academics and one full-time sailor said they were
trying to promote the "great potential" of solar power to combat
climate change.
A similar-sized boat would have used about 72 litres of diesel every
24 hours on the same voyage.
After reaching Miami, crew member Dr Martin Vosseler told the BBC it
was a thrilling experience.
"The crossing itself, from Las Palmas to Martinique - 29 days of not
seeing any land - that was fantastic. We had very much luck - no
storms.
"This trip is like a galaxy and the stars - all these encounters with
very welcoming, hospitable people and all the natural miracles we
encountered. So I feel very well."
'Energy of the future'
The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
Crew of the Sun21
The crew were retracing Christopher Columbus's voyage
During the day, the 48 solar panels on its roof gather energy from the
sun. The power is stored in batteries, which allow it to sail through
the night.
Dr Vosseler said he was "astonished" that there were not more solar-
powered boats.
The crew of the Sun21 retraced the path Christopher Columbus took on
his historic voyage to the New World more than 500 years ago.
Daniel Weiner, the group's spokesman, said they were trying to change
people's thinking on renewable energy.
"Just as Columbus changed the mindshift [mindset] of his time [by
showing] that the Earth was round and not flat, we want to show that
the energy future looks different than the past."
The boat will now sail up the east coast of the US, from Miami to New
York, where it will stay on display for several weeks before
eventually returning to Spain.
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"ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
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> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>
> The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>
snip
>
> The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
> Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>
Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much faster than 10 kph!
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
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> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
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> The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>
snip
>
> The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
> Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>
Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much faster than 10 kph!
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gerrit wrote on Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:47 +0800:
g> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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??>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
??>>
??>> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
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??>> The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
??>>
g> snip
??>>
??>> The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and
??>> registered in Basel, can maintain a constant speed of
??>> 10kmh.
??>>
g> Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much
g> faster than 10 kph!
It sounds like a fair comment and what do they do on sunless
days? Incidentally, the post to which you replied had "Re:
Solar...". When was the original, I wonder?
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Potomac, Maryland
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g> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
g> news:[email protected] ups.com...
??>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
??>>
??>> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
??>>
??>> The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
??>>
g> snip
??>>
??>> The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and
??>> registered in Basel, can maintain a constant speed of
??>> 10kmh.
??>>
g> Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much
g> faster than 10 kph!
It sounds like a fair comment and what do they do on sunless
days? Incidentally, the post to which you replied had "Re:
Solar...". When was the original, I wonder?
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
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Joe wrote on Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:36:53 -0600:
JP> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote
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JP> news:[email protected]. ..
??>> gerrit wrote on Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:47 +0800:
??>>
g>>> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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??>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
JP> Incidentally, the post to which you replied had "Re:
??>> Solar...". When was the original, I wonder?
??>>
??>> James Silverton
??>> Potomac, Maryland
JP> See above part of post.
Thanks, I think you mean
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I'm afraid I don't take much heed of Google.groups and that
explains it!
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JP> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote
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JP> news:[email protected]. ..
??>> gerrit wrote on Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:47 +0800:
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??>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
JP> Incidentally, the post to which you replied had "Re:
??>> Solar...". When was the original, I wonder?
??>>
??>> James Silverton
??>> Potomac, Maryland
JP> See above part of post.
Thanks, I think you mean
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On Mar 30, 4:14 pm, "gerrit" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>
> > Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>
> > The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>
> snip
>
> > The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
> > Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>
> Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much faster than 10 kph!
>
> Gerrit
have you heard of the duldrums?
http://xpda.com/babelfish/ - see May 24
> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
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> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>
> > Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>
> > The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>
> snip
>
> > The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
> > Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>
> Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much faster than 10 kph!
>
> Gerrit
have you heard of the duldrums?
http://xpda.com/babelfish/ - see May 24
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"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote in message
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> gerrit wrote on Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:47 +0800:
>
>
> g> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> g> news:[email protected] ups.com...
> ??>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
Incidentally, the post to which you replied had "Re:
> Solar...". When was the original, I wonder?
>
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
See above part of post.
Joe in Texas
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> gerrit wrote on Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:47 +0800:
>
>
> g> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> g> news:[email protected] ups.com...
> ??>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
Incidentally, the post to which you replied had "Re:
> Solar...". When was the original, I wonder?
>
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
See above part of post.
Joe in Texas
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gerrit wrote:
> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>>
>>Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>>
>>The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>>
>
> snip
>
>>The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
>>Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>>
>
>
> Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much faster than 10 kph!
Because the world already is AWARE of the virtues of wind
power, and solar power has many other potential energy uses?
> "ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>>
>>Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>>
>>The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>>
>
> snip
>
>>The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
>>Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>>
>
>
> Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much faster than 10 kph!
Because the world already is AWARE of the virtues of wind
power, and solar power has many other potential energy uses?
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"ocelot" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>
> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>
> The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>
> Enlarge Image
> A five-strong Swiss crew have sailed into history by completing the
> first solar-powered transatlantic crossing.
>
> The Sun21 catamaran arrived in Miami late on Thursday, 117 days after
> leaving Seville in southern Spain.
>
> The crew of four academics and one full-time sailor said they were
> trying to promote the "great potential" of solar power to combat
> climate change.
>
> A similar-sized boat would have used about 72 litres of diesel every
> 24 hours on the same voyage.
>
> After reaching Miami, crew member Dr Martin Vosseler told the BBC it
> was a thrilling experience.
>
> "The crossing itself, from Las Palmas to Martinique - 29 days of not
> seeing any land - that was fantastic. We had very much luck - no
> storms.
>
> "This trip is like a galaxy and the stars - all these encounters with
> very welcoming, hospitable people and all the natural miracles we
> encountered. So I feel very well."
>
> 'Energy of the future'
>
> The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
> Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>
> Crew of the Sun21
> The crew were retracing Christopher Columbus's voyage
>
> During the day, the 48 solar panels on its roof gather energy from the
> sun. The power is stored in batteries, which allow it to sail through
> the night.
>
> Dr Vosseler said he was "astonished" that there were not more solar-
> powered boats.
>
> The crew of the Sun21 retraced the path Christopher Columbus took on
> his historic voyage to the New World more than 500 years ago.
>
> Daniel Weiner, the group's spokesman, said they were trying to change
> people's thinking on renewable energy.
>
> "Just as Columbus changed the mindshift [mindset] of his time [by
> showing] that the Earth was round and not flat, we want to show that
> the energy future looks different than the past."
>
> The boat will now sail up the east coast of the US, from Miami to New
> York, where it will stay on display for several weeks before
> eventually returning to Spain.
>
"ocelot" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected] om...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>
> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>
> The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>
> Enlarge Image
> A five-strong Swiss crew have sailed into history by completing the
> first solar-powered transatlantic crossing.
>
> The Sun21 catamaran arrived in Miami late on Thursday, 117 days after
> leaving Seville in southern Spain.
>
> The crew of four academics and one full-time sailor said they were
> trying to promote the "great potential" of solar power to combat
> climate change.
>
> A similar-sized boat would have used about 72 litres of diesel every
> 24 hours on the same voyage.
>
> After reaching Miami, crew member Dr Martin Vosseler told the BBC it
> was a thrilling experience.
>
> "The crossing itself, from Las Palmas to Martinique - 29 days of not
> seeing any land - that was fantastic. We had very much luck - no
> storms.
>
> "This trip is like a galaxy and the stars - all these encounters with
> very welcoming, hospitable people and all the natural miracles we
> encountered. So I feel very well."
>
> 'Energy of the future'
>
> The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
> Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>
> Crew of the Sun21
> The crew were retracing Christopher Columbus's voyage
>
> During the day, the 48 solar panels on its roof gather energy from the
> sun. The power is stored in batteries, which allow it to sail through
> the night.
>
> Dr Vosseler said he was "astonished" that there were not more solar-
> powered boats.
>
> The crew of the Sun21 retraced the path Christopher Columbus took on
> his historic voyage to the New World more than 500 years ago.
>
> Daniel Weiner, the group's spokesman, said they were trying to change
> people's thinking on renewable energy.
>
> "Just as Columbus changed the mindshift [mindset] of his time [by
> showing] that the Earth was round and not flat, we want to show that
> the energy future looks different than the past."
>
> The boat will now sail up the east coast of the US, from Miami to New
> York, where it will stay on display for several weeks before
> eventually returning to Spain.
>
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> g> Why not just use a sail boat? The Cutty Sark sailed much
> g> faster than 10 kph!
>
> It sounds like a fair comment and what do they do on sunless days?
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
The same thing sail boats do on windless days, drift.
Don in Tracy, Calif.
> g> faster than 10 kph!
>
> It sounds like a fair comment and what do they do on sunless days?
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
The same thing sail boats do on windless days, drift.
Don in Tracy, Calif.
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"ocelot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>
> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>
> The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>
> Enlarge Image
> A five-strong Swiss crew have sailed into history by completing the
> first solar-powered transatlantic crossing.
>
> The Sun21 catamaran arrived in Miami late on Thursday, 117 days after
> leaving Seville in southern Spain.
>
> The crew of four academics and one full-time sailor said they were
> trying to promote the "great potential" of solar power to combat
> climate change.
>
> A similar-sized boat would have used about 72 litres of diesel every
> 24 hours on the same voyage.
>
> After reaching Miami, crew member Dr Martin Vosseler told the BBC it
> was a thrilling experience.
>
> "The crossing itself, from Las Palmas to Martinique - 29 days of not
> seeing any land - that was fantastic. We had very much luck - no
> storms.
>
> "This trip is like a galaxy and the stars - all these encounters with
> very welcoming, hospitable people and all the natural miracles we
> encountered. So I feel very well."
>
> 'Energy of the future'
>
> The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
> Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>
> Crew of the Sun21
> The crew were retracing Christopher Columbus's voyage
>
> During the day, the 48 solar panels on its roof gather energy from the
> sun. The power is stored in batteries, which allow it to sail through
> the night.
>
> Dr Vosseler said he was "astonished" that there were not more solar-
> powered boats.
>
I'm not - sails work rather better
Keith
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>
> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>
> The catamaran's power comes from a roof of solar panels
>
> Enlarge Image
> A five-strong Swiss crew have sailed into history by completing the
> first solar-powered transatlantic crossing.
>
> The Sun21 catamaran arrived in Miami late on Thursday, 117 days after
> leaving Seville in southern Spain.
>
> The crew of four academics and one full-time sailor said they were
> trying to promote the "great potential" of solar power to combat
> climate change.
>
> A similar-sized boat would have used about 72 litres of diesel every
> 24 hours on the same voyage.
>
> After reaching Miami, crew member Dr Martin Vosseler told the BBC it
> was a thrilling experience.
>
> "The crossing itself, from Las Palmas to Martinique - 29 days of not
> seeing any land - that was fantastic. We had very much luck - no
> storms.
>
> "This trip is like a galaxy and the stars - all these encounters with
> very welcoming, hospitable people and all the natural miracles we
> encountered. So I feel very well."
>
> 'Energy of the future'
>
> The 14m- (46ft) long vessel, built by a Swiss firm and registered in
> Basel, can maintain a constant speed of 10kmh.
>
> Crew of the Sun21
> The crew were retracing Christopher Columbus's voyage
>
> During the day, the 48 solar panels on its roof gather energy from the
> sun. The power is stored in batteries, which allow it to sail through
> the night.
>
> Dr Vosseler said he was "astonished" that there were not more solar-
> powered boats.
>
I'm not - sails work rather better
Keith
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>> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
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>> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:26:52 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:16 +0200, "Runge1" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>by the notorious troller
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>>"ocelot" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
>>>
>>> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
>
>[Rest deleted]
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>Why did you repost it?
Runge is a cross dresser, so crap posts crosses his threshold.
>On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:16 +0200, "Runge1" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
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>>by the notorious troller
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>>"ocelot" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>>> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
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>Why did you repost it?
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irwell wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:26:52 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:16 +0200, "Runge1" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>by the notorious troller
> >
> >>"ocelot" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
> >>>
> >>> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
> >
> >[Rest deleted]
> >
> >Why did you repost it?
> Runge is a cross dresser, so crap posts crosses his threshold.
Lol...
Poor scRunge is so sexually confused, he still thinks his pal Jacqueline is
a horse...or maybe even an ass.
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> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:26:52 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:14:16 +0200, "Runge1" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>by the notorious troller
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> >>"ocelot" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6509677.stm
> >>>
> >>> Solar boat makes Atlantic history
> >
> >[Rest deleted]
> >
> >Why did you repost it?
> Runge is a cross dresser, so crap posts crosses his threshold.
Lol...
Poor scRunge is so sexually confused, he still thinks his pal Jacqueline is
a horse...or maybe even an ass.
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On Apr 1, 8:44 am, "Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Poor scRunge is so sexually confused, he still thinks his pal Jacqueline is
> a horse...or maybe even an ass.
Didn't you promise DFM to cut out this shit?
B;
wrote:
> Poor scRunge is so sexually confused, he still thinks his pal Jacqueline is
> a horse...or maybe even an ass.
Didn't you promise DFM to cut out this shit?
B;
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 8:44 am, "Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Poor scRunge is so sexually confused, he still thinks his pal Jacqueline
is
> > a horse...or maybe even an ass.
>
> Didn't you promise DFM to cut out this shit?
Hey now, I have not responded to scRunge at all since then (I keep that crap
in the aadp froup), and Jacqueloon only once...
I was only responding to irwell here...not scRunge. And I won't respond at
all to scRunge anymore here in order to keep the s/n ratio down...as I
originally told DFM and also IIRC David Horne. Piggy Capitaliste and PJ
"Pajamas" O'Donovan are others I don't respond to anymore here...isn't that
kind of me?
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> On Apr 1, 8:44 am, "Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Poor scRunge is so sexually confused, he still thinks his pal Jacqueline
is
> > a horse...or maybe even an ass.
>
> Didn't you promise DFM to cut out this shit?
Hey now, I have not responded to scRunge at all since then (I keep that crap
in the aadp froup), and Jacqueloon only once...
I was only responding to irwell here...not scRunge. And I won't respond at
all to scRunge anymore here in order to keep the s/n ratio down...as I
originally told DFM and also IIRC David Horne. Piggy Capitaliste and PJ
"Pajamas" O'Donovan are others I don't respond to anymore here...isn't that
kind of me?
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Best
Greg



