Smuggling French cheese
Jan 31st 2003 | 3:49 am
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Re: Smuggling French cheese
Ok, since my curiousity was killing me, I just called the United States
Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.
A 30 second chat with a very nice woman and I was informed that hard
cheeses can be imported but soft cheeses can not.
She didn't know enough to tell me why though so I didn't press the point.
I'm sure if anyone else is interested she would be happy to direct you the
right person to talk to.
Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.
A 30 second chat with a very nice woman and I was informed that hard
cheeses can be imported but soft cheeses can not.
She didn't know enough to tell me why though so I didn't press the point.
I'm sure if anyone else is interested she would be happy to direct you the
right person to talk to.
Jan 31st 2003 | 3:49 am
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Re: Smuggling French cheese
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:10:58 -0500, DWP
wrote:
>I have brought back 5 or 6 pounds of cheese on at least 10 occassions
>from Paris to the US and never had any customs issues with it. On the US
>customs declaration where it asks if you are carrying any food, I always
>check YES and write in "cheese"; I'm no smuggler. No official has ever
>asked me anything about it. No dog has ever given me a second sniff (I
>hear they're looking for meat).
Whoa, have you done this recently? When I admitted that I had a
sandwich that I was about to eat, they took it.
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wrote:
>I have brought back 5 or 6 pounds of cheese on at least 10 occassions
>from Paris to the US and never had any customs issues with it. On the US
>customs declaration where it asks if you are carrying any food, I always
>check YES and write in "cheese"; I'm no smuggler. No official has ever
>asked me anything about it. No dog has ever given me a second sniff (I
>hear they're looking for meat).
Whoa, have you done this recently? When I admitted that I had a
sandwich that I was about to eat, they took it.
---------------------------
A truly cool book:
The World Is Already Yours
Conscious living in the real world
www.alreadyyours.com (sample chapter, etc...)
Jan 31st 2003 | 4:23 am
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Re: Smuggling French cheese
Juliana L Holm wrote:
>
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>
> > I brought a decent-sized cheese into the US from the Netherlands in late
> > December. I told the customs people about it, and they referred me to the
> > Agriculture people standing nearby, and they told me to go on through.
>
> > I don't know enough about cheese to know whether or not it was pasteurized
> > (and tragically, it's all been eaten, so I can't check the label!) It was a
> > jonge Gouda, encased in wax.
>
> while their web site does not say it, I have heard that hard cheese is OK and
> soft cheese is not.
A jonge Gouda, if I remember right, is not a hard cheese.
Barbara
>
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>
> > I brought a decent-sized cheese into the US from the Netherlands in late
> > December. I told the customs people about it, and they referred me to the
> > Agriculture people standing nearby, and they told me to go on through.
>
> > I don't know enough about cheese to know whether or not it was pasteurized
> > (and tragically, it's all been eaten, so I can't check the label!) It was a
> > jonge Gouda, encased in wax.
>
> while their web site does not say it, I have heard that hard cheese is OK and
> soft cheese is not.
A jonge Gouda, if I remember right, is not a hard cheese.
Barbara
Jan 31st 2003 | 4:24 am
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Jenn wrote:
>
> In article ,
> Barbara Vaughan wrote:
>
> > DWP wrote:
> > >
> > > Gomez Adams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I will be in France in March and I want to bring some unpasteurized
> > > > French cheese back to the US. I would normally try to put it in my
> > > > luggage, however, I have heard that the new scanning equipment will
> > > > think that it might be an explosive. Would it be better to try to put
> > > > it in a carry-on? Anyone had any experiences with cheese and the
> > > > airlines?
> > >
> > > I have brought back 5 or 6 pounds of cheese on at least 10 occassions
> > > from Paris to the US and never had any customs issues with it. On the US
> > > customs declaration where it asks if you are carrying any food, I always
> > > check YES and write in "cheese"; I'm no smuggler. No official has ever
> > > asked me anything about it. No dog has ever given me a second sniff (I
> > > hear they're looking for meat).
> >
> > I also have brought cheese into the US, declaring it on the customs form
> > and have never had a problem.
> >
> > Barbara
>
> was that after the recent outbreaks of hoof and mouth?
Yes. Although that should be irrelevant to cheese.
Barbara
>
> In article ,
> Barbara Vaughan wrote:
>
> > DWP wrote:
> > >
> > > Gomez Adams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I will be in France in March and I want to bring some unpasteurized
> > > > French cheese back to the US. I would normally try to put it in my
> > > > luggage, however, I have heard that the new scanning equipment will
> > > > think that it might be an explosive. Would it be better to try to put
> > > > it in a carry-on? Anyone had any experiences with cheese and the
> > > > airlines?
> > >
> > > I have brought back 5 or 6 pounds of cheese on at least 10 occassions
> > > from Paris to the US and never had any customs issues with it. On the US
> > > customs declaration where it asks if you are carrying any food, I always
> > > check YES and write in "cheese"; I'm no smuggler. No official has ever
> > > asked me anything about it. No dog has ever given me a second sniff (I
> > > hear they're looking for meat).
> >
> > I also have brought cheese into the US, declaring it on the customs form
> > and have never had a problem.
> >
> > Barbara
>
> was that after the recent outbreaks of hoof and mouth?
Yes. Although that should be irrelevant to cheese.
Barbara
Jan 31st 2003 | 4:48 am
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Emilia wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Smuggling is a crime. It's extremely foolish to ask for help
> >> committing a crime--especially using your real E-mail address--in
> >> a public forum.
> >
> > Depends upon what you call "smuggling" - I don't think the OP was
> > planning to bring in large quantities with the idea of selling it for a
> > profit (which is what true "smugglers" do). A bit of fine cheese for
> > personal use is hardly in the same class - more in the nature of a
> > souvenir. (Like Belgian chocolates, which I've never had any qualms
> > about taking through customs - nor has anyone ever questioned me about
> > them.)
> >
>
> Belgian chocolates are perfectly acceptable to bring into the US. There
> is nothing harmful in chocolates. Unpasturized milk cheese is a different
> story.
>
> Best to ask before you go.
Or, as others have advised, bring it in but declare it - if you lose it,
you lose it. (Even in today's climate, you're not likely to be arrested
for it - especially if you've declared it.) Very often customs couldn't
care less what you carry in your luggage for your personal consumption,
so I'd say it's worth taking the chance they'll pass it without
protest.
>
> >>
> >> Smuggling is a crime. It's extremely foolish to ask for help
> >> committing a crime--especially using your real E-mail address--in
> >> a public forum.
> >
> > Depends upon what you call "smuggling" - I don't think the OP was
> > planning to bring in large quantities with the idea of selling it for a
> > profit (which is what true "smugglers" do). A bit of fine cheese for
> > personal use is hardly in the same class - more in the nature of a
> > souvenir. (Like Belgian chocolates, which I've never had any qualms
> > about taking through customs - nor has anyone ever questioned me about
> > them.)
> >
>
> Belgian chocolates are perfectly acceptable to bring into the US. There
> is nothing harmful in chocolates. Unpasturized milk cheese is a different
> story.
>
> Best to ask before you go.
Or, as others have advised, bring it in but declare it - if you lose it,
you lose it. (Even in today's climate, you're not likely to be arrested
for it - especially if you've declared it.) Very often customs couldn't
care less what you carry in your luggage for your personal consumption,
so I'd say it's worth taking the chance they'll pass it without
protest.
Jan 31st 2003 | 4:56 am
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Juliana L Holm wrote:
>
>
> This is not a customs issue, it is a Department of Agriculture issue. And
> unless you got caught, which is unlikely but possible, you would not have
> any problem.
>
> The ecosystem might have a problem, if a foreign bacteria or small insect
> hitched a ride in on your cheese.
>
> I suspect the person who brought in the coconuts from the Caribbean to Florida
> had no problem. Florida's palm trees are now sick and dying because a pest,
> invisible to the naked eye, came in on those coconuts, possibly was in the
> discarded shell.
And who imported "killer bees"? They seem to have invaded all on their
own. We live in one world, and people travel between countries. So do
birds, insects and aquatic creatures, none of whom recognize territorial
boundaries. I'm all for "protecting" our environment (which in many
cases Europeans seem to be doing more effectively than we) but a bit of
unpastuerized cheese for personal consumption hardly seems enough to go
ballistic about!
>
>
> This is not a customs issue, it is a Department of Agriculture issue. And
> unless you got caught, which is unlikely but possible, you would not have
> any problem.
>
> The ecosystem might have a problem, if a foreign bacteria or small insect
> hitched a ride in on your cheese.
>
> I suspect the person who brought in the coconuts from the Caribbean to Florida
> had no problem. Florida's palm trees are now sick and dying because a pest,
> invisible to the naked eye, came in on those coconuts, possibly was in the
> discarded shell.
And who imported "killer bees"? They seem to have invaded all on their
own. We live in one world, and people travel between countries. So do
birds, insects and aquatic creatures, none of whom recognize territorial
boundaries. I'm all for "protecting" our environment (which in many
cases Europeans seem to be doing more effectively than we) but a bit of
unpastuerized cheese for personal consumption hardly seems enough to go
ballistic about!
Jan 31st 2003 | 5:13 am
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Amen,
I've carried a lot of cheese home from Europe over the years and never had a
problem. I, too, always declare it and have never been questioned by
Customs or Agriculture (the dogs work for Agriculture). I really get a laugh
when I hear people talk about getting things through Customs. I have made
over 35 trips to Europe and we bring home a lot of stuff. I have always
declared everything and I have never been charged any duty on any item. Just
this month, I brought back a lot of cheese, probably 10-12 pounds wrapped in
my check-on baggage and 8 bottles of wine, also in my check on baggage. I
declared it all and nothing was said.
Cheese is not a problem, fresh fruit is a problem.
--
John Vittoe
"Chance favors only the Prepared Mind."
Louis Pasteur, 1852
www.vittoe.com
I've carried a lot of cheese home from Europe over the years and never had a
problem. I, too, always declare it and have never been questioned by
Customs or Agriculture (the dogs work for Agriculture). I really get a laugh
when I hear people talk about getting things through Customs. I have made
over 35 trips to Europe and we bring home a lot of stuff. I have always
declared everything and I have never been charged any duty on any item. Just
this month, I brought back a lot of cheese, probably 10-12 pounds wrapped in
my check-on baggage and 8 bottles of wine, also in my check on baggage. I
declared it all and nothing was said.
Cheese is not a problem, fresh fruit is a problem.
--
John Vittoe
"Chance favors only the Prepared Mind."
Louis Pasteur, 1852
www.vittoe.com
Jan 31st 2003 | 5:20 am
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Re: Smuggling French cheese
The pages mentioned below also state:
"Always DECLARE to the inspectors everything you have that could be
classified as an agricultural product. An inspector can then determine
whether that item is prohibited or is allowed entry."
They also state: "Keep in mind that this list is not all inclusive, ..."
Declare the cheese, it will get through.
--
John Vittoe
"Chance favors only the Prepared Mind."
Louis Pasteur, 1852
www.vittoe.com
"Juliana L Holm" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> DWP wrote:
> > I have brought back 5 or 6 pounds of cheese on at least 10 occassions
> > from Paris to the US and never had any customs issues with it. On the US
> > customs declaration where it asks if you are carrying any food, I always
> > check YES and write in "cheese"; I'm no smuggler. No official has ever
> > asked me anything about it. No dog has ever given me a second sniff (I
> > hear they're looking for meat).
> USDA guidelines on what you are allowed to bring back are on the web page
at:
> http://www.aphis.usda.gov/travel/usdatips.html
> I note that cheese is not on the accepted list.
> Please note that the reason for these restrictions is that you may
unknowingly \bring back unexpected diseases, particularly agricultural and
livestock
> diseases. This is not like skipping a customs fee, this is doing great
harm
> to the ecology of our continent, even though you may nnot personally see
it.
> I recently got back from a trip and was warned that although in the past
the
> USDA has been more lax, that they have recently stepped up this kind of
> enforcement (in conjunction with more security) .
> Don't do it. Bring back french wine.
> Julie
> --
> Julie
> **********
> Check out my Traval Pages (non-commercial) at
> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
"Always DECLARE to the inspectors everything you have that could be
classified as an agricultural product. An inspector can then determine
whether that item is prohibited or is allowed entry."
They also state: "Keep in mind that this list is not all inclusive, ..."
Declare the cheese, it will get through.
--
John Vittoe
"Chance favors only the Prepared Mind."
Louis Pasteur, 1852
www.vittoe.com
"Juliana L Holm" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> DWP wrote:
> > I have brought back 5 or 6 pounds of cheese on at least 10 occassions
> > from Paris to the US and never had any customs issues with it. On the US
> > customs declaration where it asks if you are carrying any food, I always
> > check YES and write in "cheese"; I'm no smuggler. No official has ever
> > asked me anything about it. No dog has ever given me a second sniff (I
> > hear they're looking for meat).
> USDA guidelines on what you are allowed to bring back are on the web page
at:
> http://www.aphis.usda.gov/travel/usdatips.html
> I note that cheese is not on the accepted list.
> Please note that the reason for these restrictions is that you may
unknowingly \bring back unexpected diseases, particularly agricultural and
livestock
> diseases. This is not like skipping a customs fee, this is doing great
harm
> to the ecology of our continent, even though you may nnot personally see
it.
> I recently got back from a trip and was warned that although in the past
the
> USDA has been more lax, that they have recently stepped up this kind of
> enforcement (in conjunction with more security) .
> Don't do it. Bring back french wine.
> Julie
> --
> Julie
> **********
> Check out my Traval Pages (non-commercial) at
> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
Jan 31st 2003 | 5:43 am
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Re: Smuggling French cheese
In news:[email protected],
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
wrote:
> Ken Blake wrote:
>> "Gomez Adams" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I will be in France in March and I want to bring some
>> unpasteurized
>>> French cheese back to the US. I would normally try to put it
>> in my
>>> luggage, however, I have heard that the new scanning
equipment
>> will
>>> think that it might be an explosive. Would it be better to
try
>> to put
>>> it in a carry-on? Anyone had any experiences with cheese and
>> the
>>> airlines?
>> Smuggling is a crime. It's extremely foolish to ask for help
>> committing a crime--especially using your real E-mail
address--in
>> a public forum.
> Depends upon what you call "smuggling" - I don't think the OP
was
> planning to bring in large quantities with the idea of selling
it for
> a profit (which is what true "smugglers" do).
"Smuggling" was the OP's word, not mine--see the subject line of
this thread. I don't know what quantities he wants to bring in,
but he chose to use the word, so he obviously knows that what he
wants to do is wrong and illegal.
--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
wrote:
> Ken Blake wrote:
>> "Gomez Adams" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I will be in France in March and I want to bring some
>> unpasteurized
>>> French cheese back to the US. I would normally try to put it
>> in my
>>> luggage, however, I have heard that the new scanning
equipment
>> will
>>> think that it might be an explosive. Would it be better to
try
>> to put
>>> it in a carry-on? Anyone had any experiences with cheese and
>> the
>>> airlines?
>> Smuggling is a crime. It's extremely foolish to ask for help
>> committing a crime--especially using your real E-mail
address--in
>> a public forum.
> Depends upon what you call "smuggling" - I don't think the OP
was
> planning to bring in large quantities with the idea of selling
it for
> a profit (which is what true "smugglers" do).
"Smuggling" was the OP's word, not mine--see the subject line of
this thread. I don't know what quantities he wants to bring in,
but he chose to use the word, so he obviously knows that what he
wants to do is wrong and illegal.
--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup
Jan 31st 2003 | 5:44 am
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In article ,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
> Juliana L Holm wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > This is not a customs issue, it is a Department of Agriculture issue. And
> > unless you got caught, which is unlikely but possible, you would not have
> > any problem.
> >
> > The ecosystem might have a problem, if a foreign bacteria or small insect
> > hitched a ride in on your cheese.
> >
> > I suspect the person who brought in the coconuts from the Caribbean to
> > Florida
> > had no problem. Florida's palm trees are now sick and dying because a
> > pest,
> > invisible to the naked eye, came in on those coconuts, possibly was in the
> > discarded shell.
>
> And who imported "killer bees"? They seem to have invaded all on their
> own. We live in one world, and people travel between countries. So do
> birds, insects and aquatic creatures, none of whom recognize territorial
> boundaries. I'm all for "protecting" our environment (which in many
> cases Europeans seem to be doing more effectively than we) but a bit of
> unpastuerized cheese for personal consumption hardly seems enough to go
> ballistic about!
you might do a little reading. Killer bees were imported from Africa by
South Americans who wanted to cross breed them with European honey bees
getting less aggressive bees that produced more honey. Instead they
accidentally let 12 queens get away and those 12 queens and their
countless offspring started the process by which killer bees have moved
slowly north -- now into the southern part of the US. It is a classic
example of how thoughtless importation of a species can destroy an
ecology.
Not only are killer bees dangerous to humans and animals, but they drive
out the honey bees that farmers depend on for polination. Killer bees
are lousy polinators and honey producers.
many serious infestations have been started by selfish thoughtless
tourists bringing in that wonderful sausage, or fruit, or that wonderful
coconut they found on the beach
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
> Juliana L Holm wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > This is not a customs issue, it is a Department of Agriculture issue. And
> > unless you got caught, which is unlikely but possible, you would not have
> > any problem.
> >
> > The ecosystem might have a problem, if a foreign bacteria or small insect
> > hitched a ride in on your cheese.
> >
> > I suspect the person who brought in the coconuts from the Caribbean to
> > Florida
> > had no problem. Florida's palm trees are now sick and dying because a
> > pest,
> > invisible to the naked eye, came in on those coconuts, possibly was in the
> > discarded shell.
>
> And who imported "killer bees"? They seem to have invaded all on their
> own. We live in one world, and people travel between countries. So do
> birds, insects and aquatic creatures, none of whom recognize territorial
> boundaries. I'm all for "protecting" our environment (which in many
> cases Europeans seem to be doing more effectively than we) but a bit of
> unpastuerized cheese for personal consumption hardly seems enough to go
> ballistic about!
you might do a little reading. Killer bees were imported from Africa by
South Americans who wanted to cross breed them with European honey bees
getting less aggressive bees that produced more honey. Instead they
accidentally let 12 queens get away and those 12 queens and their
countless offspring started the process by which killer bees have moved
slowly north -- now into the southern part of the US. It is a classic
example of how thoughtless importation of a species can destroy an
ecology.
Not only are killer bees dangerous to humans and animals, but they drive
out the honey bees that farmers depend on for polination. Killer bees
are lousy polinators and honey producers.
many serious infestations have been started by selfish thoughtless
tourists bringing in that wonderful sausage, or fruit, or that wonderful
coconut they found on the beach
Jan 31st 2003 | 6:38 am
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Re: Smuggling French cheese
In news:[email protected], Jenn
wrote:
> Not only are killer bees dangerous to humans and animals, but
they
> drive out the honey bees that farmers depend on for polination.
> Killer bees are lousy polinators and honey producers.
I'm no expert on killer bees, but my understanding is that you
have this exactly backward. Killer bees are excellent honey
producers, and they are therefore preferred by beekeepers.
--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup
wrote:
> Not only are killer bees dangerous to humans and animals, but
they
> drive out the honey bees that farmers depend on for polination.
> Killer bees are lousy polinators and honey producers.
I'm no expert on killer bees, but my understanding is that you
have this exactly backward. Killer bees are excellent honey
producers, and they are therefore preferred by beekeepers.
--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup
Jan 31st 2003 | 6:39 am
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Or, as others have advised, bring it in but declare it - if you lose it,
> you lose it. (Even in today's climate, you're not likely to be arrested
> for it - especially if you've declared it.) Very often customs couldn't
> care less what you carry in your luggage for your personal consumption,
> so I'd say it's worth taking the chance they'll pass it without
> protest.
That's exactly what we did during the hoof & mouth outbreak. We were
diverted off to talk to the ag. person who promptly inspected the bottom of
our shoes and then waved us through.
As Dave Barry says, "I am not making this up".
Terry.
news:[email protected]...
> Or, as others have advised, bring it in but declare it - if you lose it,
> you lose it. (Even in today's climate, you're not likely to be arrested
> for it - especially if you've declared it.) Very often customs couldn't
> care less what you carry in your luggage for your personal consumption,
> so I'd say it's worth taking the chance they'll pass it without
> protest.
That's exactly what we did during the hoof & mouth outbreak. We were
diverted off to talk to the ag. person who promptly inspected the bottom of
our shoes and then waved us through.
As Dave Barry says, "I am not making this up".
Terry.
Jan 31st 2003 | 6:52 am
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Emilia wrote:
> Well, assuming that the person declares the cheese then I would guess
> that the DA would know whether it was OK or not. So it is really up to
> the OP to decide whether he/she wants to take the risk of getting it
> confiscated or not, considering it is not on the list or either
> prohibited or allowed items.
Actually I agree, but one might assume, from the topic of this thread
("Smuggling French cheese" as opposed to "Bringing back French Cheese")
that the original poster was NOT planning on declaring the cheese. That
is what I object to and consider selfish.
I likewise love to bring back stuff from Europe, my personal favorite is
German Wine. I always declare it, however.
(But that is a customs issue, not an Agriculture issue). I would never try
to sneak in any forbidden produce.
Julie
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**********
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> Well, assuming that the person declares the cheese then I would guess
> that the DA would know whether it was OK or not. So it is really up to
> the OP to decide whether he/she wants to take the risk of getting it
> confiscated or not, considering it is not on the list or either
> prohibited or allowed items.
Actually I agree, but one might assume, from the topic of this thread
("Smuggling French cheese" as opposed to "Bringing back French Cheese")
that the original poster was NOT planning on declaring the cheese. That
is what I object to and consider selfish.
I likewise love to bring back stuff from Europe, my personal favorite is
German Wine. I always declare it, however.
(But that is a customs issue, not an Agriculture issue). I would never try
to sneak in any forbidden produce.
Julie
--
Julie
**********
Check out my Traval Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
Jan 31st 2003 | 6:55 am
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Sorry for following myself up, but I also reread the original poster, and the
content of the original post really does not ask about "smuggling" cheese,
but really how it will fare in the airline. So despite the wording of the
topic sentence, it is most likely that the topic was tongue in cheek,
that the OP had every intention of declaring his cheese and that I am
overreacting badly.
For which I apologize to all.
Julie
Juliana L Holm wrote:
> Emilia wrote:
>> Well, assuming that the person declares the cheese then I would guess
>> that the DA would know whether it was OK or not. So it is really up to
>> the OP to decide whether he/she wants to take the risk of getting it
>> confiscated or not, considering it is not on the list or either
>> prohibited or allowed items.
> Actually I agree, but one might assume, from the topic of this thread
> ("Smuggling French cheese" as opposed to "Bringing back French Cheese")
> that the original poster was NOT planning on declaring the cheese. That
> is what I object to and consider selfish.
> I likewise love to bring back stuff from Europe, my personal favorite is
> German Wine. I always declare it, however.
> (But that is a customs issue, not an Agriculture issue). I would never try
> to sneak in any forbidden produce.
> Julie
> --
> Julie
> **********
> Check out my Traval Pages (non-commercial) at
> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
--
Julie
**********
Check out my Traval Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
content of the original post really does not ask about "smuggling" cheese,
but really how it will fare in the airline. So despite the wording of the
topic sentence, it is most likely that the topic was tongue in cheek,
that the OP had every intention of declaring his cheese and that I am
overreacting badly.
For which I apologize to all.
Julie
Juliana L Holm wrote:
> Emilia wrote:
>> Well, assuming that the person declares the cheese then I would guess
>> that the DA would know whether it was OK or not. So it is really up to
>> the OP to decide whether he/she wants to take the risk of getting it
>> confiscated or not, considering it is not on the list or either
>> prohibited or allowed items.
> Actually I agree, but one might assume, from the topic of this thread
> ("Smuggling French cheese" as opposed to "Bringing back French Cheese")
> that the original poster was NOT planning on declaring the cheese. That
> is what I object to and consider selfish.
> I likewise love to bring back stuff from Europe, my personal favorite is
> German Wine. I always declare it, however.
> (But that is a customs issue, not an Agriculture issue). I would never try
> to sneak in any forbidden produce.
> Julie
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Jan 31st 2003 | 7:10 am
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Re: Smuggling French cheese
I think you bring up good points that are interesting and important to
discuss, whether they are 100% related to the OP or not. So I,
personally, see no need for you to apologize. You made your points
clearly and we all understood your passion for the topic without it
degenerating into a nasty fight as can happen around here.
Juliana L Holm wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Sorry for following myself up, but I also reread the original poster,
> and the content of the original post really does not ask about
> "smuggling" cheese, but really how it will fare in the airline. So
> despite the wording of the topic sentence, it is most likely that the
> topic was tongue in cheek, that the OP had every intention of
> declaring his cheese and that I am overreacting badly.
>
> For which I apologize to all.
>
> Julie
>
> Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> Emilia wrote:
>>> Well, assuming that the person declares the cheese then I would
>>> guess that the DA would know whether it was OK or not. So it is
>>> really up to the OP to decide whether he/she wants to take the risk
>>> of getting it confiscated or not, considering it is not on the list
>>> or either prohibited or allowed items.
>
>> Actually I agree, but one might assume, from the topic of this thread
>> ("Smuggling French cheese" as opposed to "Bringing back French
>> Cheese") that the original poster was NOT planning on declaring the
>> cheese. That is what I object to and consider selfish.
>
>> I likewise love to bring back stuff from Europe, my personal favorite
>> is German Wine. I always declare it, however.
>
>> (But that is a customs issue, not an Agriculture issue). I would
>> never try to sneak in any forbidden produce.
>
>> Julie
>
>> --
>> Julie
>> **********
>> Check out my Traval Pages (non-commercial) at
>> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
>
discuss, whether they are 100% related to the OP or not. So I,
personally, see no need for you to apologize. You made your points
clearly and we all understood your passion for the topic without it
degenerating into a nasty fight as can happen around here.
Juliana L Holm wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Sorry for following myself up, but I also reread the original poster,
> and the content of the original post really does not ask about
> "smuggling" cheese, but really how it will fare in the airline. So
> despite the wording of the topic sentence, it is most likely that the
> topic was tongue in cheek, that the OP had every intention of
> declaring his cheese and that I am overreacting badly.
>
> For which I apologize to all.
>
> Julie
>
> Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> Emilia wrote:
>>> Well, assuming that the person declares the cheese then I would
>>> guess that the DA would know whether it was OK or not. So it is
>>> really up to the OP to decide whether he/she wants to take the risk
>>> of getting it confiscated or not, considering it is not on the list
>>> or either prohibited or allowed items.
>
>> Actually I agree, but one might assume, from the topic of this thread
>> ("Smuggling French cheese" as opposed to "Bringing back French
>> Cheese") that the original poster was NOT planning on declaring the
>> cheese. That is what I object to and consider selfish.
>
>> I likewise love to bring back stuff from Europe, my personal favorite
>> is German Wine. I always declare it, however.
>
>> (But that is a customs issue, not an Agriculture issue). I would
>> never try to sneak in any forbidden produce.
>
>> Julie
>
>> --
>> Julie
>> **********
>> Check out my Traval Pages (non-commercial) at
>> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
>
