smoking in Europe
Jun 4th 2007, 6:41 pm
#121
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Re: smoking in Europe
Brian <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:09:11 GMT, "Benedetta" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Hi,
> >my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
> >smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
> >so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
> >pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
> >addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
> >
> >Benedetta
>
> Is it enforced? We are going to Italy next month and I've been
> concerned that, even though there is a law, people may not follow it.
>
> I've never been to Europe before and the problems with smoking have
> been the main reason.
I've heard that compliance has been very good, and certainly I didn't
see a single instance of anyone infringing it. I would rest assured if I
were you.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:09:11 GMT, "Benedetta" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Hi,
> >my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
> >smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
> >so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
> >pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
> >addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
> >
> >Benedetta
>
> Is it enforced? We are going to Italy next month and I've been
> concerned that, even though there is a law, people may not follow it.
>
> I've never been to Europe before and the problems with smoking have
> been the main reason.
I've heard that compliance has been very good, and certainly I didn't
see a single instance of anyone infringing it. I would rest assured if I
were you.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jun 4th 2007, 7:25 pm
#122
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Re: smoking in Europe
"Deeply Filled Mortician" >
> I agree with you entirely, as does the majority of Italians from what
> I have seen.
>
> Now, if only we can teach you Tuscans to pronounce 'c' properly...
:-D
It is true, we have a strange "c", it seems also the Etruscans had this kind
of pronounciation.
I began to study English at 6 and I am able to pronounce "because" properly
but a lot of Tuscans pronounce it something like "behause" :-D
Benedetta
> I agree with you entirely, as does the majority of Italians from what
> I have seen.
>
> Now, if only we can teach you Tuscans to pronounce 'c' properly...
:-D
It is true, we have a strange "c", it seems also the Etruscans had this kind
of pronounciation.
I began to study English at 6 and I am able to pronounce "because" properly
but a lot of Tuscans pronounce it something like "behause" :-D
Benedetta
Jun 4th 2007, 7:31 pm
#123
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Re: smoking in Europe
"Brian" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> Is it enforced? We are going to Italy next month and I've been
> concerned that, even though there is a law, people may not follow it.
If you do not follow it you will be fined and the owner of the restaurant
will not permit you to smoke or he will be fined for 2.000,00 Euros.
The fine for you is even higher if there are babies or pregnant women
around.
And last but not least people are not very kind with smokers who want to
smoke wheere it is forbidden!
You can smoke in the streets or in restaurants with restricted areas (there
are what we call "the cages" completely closed areas where smokers can smoke
and not taste what they are eating, but there are very few cages).
Benedetta
>
> I've never been to Europe before and the problems with smoking have
> been the main reason.
>
> Is it enforced? We are going to Italy next month and I've been
> concerned that, even though there is a law, people may not follow it.
If you do not follow it you will be fined and the owner of the restaurant
will not permit you to smoke or he will be fined for 2.000,00 Euros.
The fine for you is even higher if there are babies or pregnant women
around.
And last but not least people are not very kind with smokers who want to
smoke wheere it is forbidden!
You can smoke in the streets or in restaurants with restricted areas (there
are what we call "the cages" completely closed areas where smokers can smoke
and not taste what they are eating, but there are very few cages).
Benedetta
>
> I've never been to Europe before and the problems with smoking have
> been the main reason.
Jun 4th 2007, 10:41 pm
#124
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Re: smoking in Europe
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:43:38 -0400,
Brian <[email protected]> has scripted:
>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:09:11 GMT, "Benedetta" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
>>smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
>>so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
>>pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
>>addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>>
>>Benedetta
>
>Is it enforced? We are going to Italy next month and I've been
>concerned that, even though there is a law, people may not follow it.
Laws are frequently not enforced in Italy, but the social pressure to
be considerate works better. I hate smoke, and I rarely get bothered
by it here.
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Brian <[email protected]> has scripted:
>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:09:11 GMT, "Benedetta" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
>>smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
>>so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
>>pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
>>addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>>
>>Benedetta
>
>Is it enforced? We are going to Italy next month and I've been
>concerned that, even though there is a law, people may not follow it.
Laws are frequently not enforced in Italy, but the social pressure to
be considerate works better. I hate smoke, and I rarely get bothered
by it here.
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Jun 5th 2007, 12:39 pm
#125
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Re: smoking in Europe
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 07:41:04 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>I've heard that compliance has been very good, and certainly I didn't
>see a single instance of anyone infringing it. I would rest assured if I
>were you.
Thank you both.
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>I've heard that compliance has been very good, and certainly I didn't
>see a single instance of anyone infringing it. I would rest assured if I
>were you.
Thank you both.
Jun 8th 2007, 10:25 pm
#126
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Re: smoking in Europe
poldy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
> > thing.
>
> Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
> irritant to many people.
>
> No reason people should have to put up with it.
Along with perfume, cars, mobile phones etc.
No reason why people should have to put up with them.
Let's be consistent and ban everything that's an irritant to many
people.
There won't be much left.
Allan
> In article <[email protected]>,
> The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
> > thing.
>
> Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
> irritant to many people.
>
> No reason people should have to put up with it.
Along with perfume, cars, mobile phones etc.
No reason why people should have to put up with them.
Let's be consistent and ban everything that's an irritant to many
people.
There won't be much left.
Allan
Jun 8th 2007, 10:31 pm
#127
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Re: smoking in Europe
Benedetta wrote:
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"
> >
> > If I've got a choice of where I'm going, yes. If I'm going to have to
> > eat inside all the time, I want to be able to enjoy what I'm eating,
> > otherwise what's the point?
>
> Hi,
> my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
> smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
> so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
> pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
> addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>
> Benedetta
So is alcohol. Can we take it that you don't drink wine or beer in
front of other
people?
Allan
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"
> >
> > If I've got a choice of where I'm going, yes. If I'm going to have to
> > eat inside all the time, I want to be able to enjoy what I'm eating,
> > otherwise what's the point?
>
> Hi,
> my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
> smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
> so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
> pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
> addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>
> Benedetta
So is alcohol. Can we take it that you don't drink wine or beer in
front of other
people?
Allan
Jun 8th 2007, 10:39 pm
#128
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Re: smoking in Europe
Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr wrote:
> On 3 Jun, 21:18, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
> > > thing.
> >
> > Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
> > irritant to many people.
> >
> > No reason people should have to put up with it.
>
> indeed, **** the smokers
Kinky. Whatever turns you on.
Allan
> On 3 Jun, 21:18, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
> > > thing.
> >
> > Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
> > irritant to many people.
> >
> > No reason people should have to put up with it.
>
> indeed, **** the smokers
Kinky. Whatever turns you on.
Allan
Jun 8th 2007, 10:41 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr wrote:
> On 3 Jun, 21:18, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
> > > thing.
> >
> > Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
> > irritant to many people.
> >
> > No reason people should have to put up with it.
>
> indeed, **** the smokers
Kinky. Whatever turns you on. Some of us can't afford to be so fussy.
Allan
> On 3 Jun, 21:18, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
> > > thing.
> >
> > Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
> > irritant to many people.
> >
> > No reason people should have to put up with it.
>
> indeed, **** the smokers
Kinky. Whatever turns you on. Some of us can't afford to be so fussy.
Allan
Jun 8th 2007, 11:02 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
allan wrote:
> Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr wrote:
>
> > On 3 Jun, 21:18, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
> > > > thing.
> > >
> > > Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
> > > irritant to many people.
> > >
> > > No reason people should have to put up with it.
> >
> > indeed, **** the smokers
>
> Kinky. Whatever turns you on. Some of us can't afford to be so fussy.
>
> Allan
Apologies to all and sundry for the double post. It wasn't me, it was
the ever helpful
Google sending stuff off before I'd finished.
Damn. It's a triple post now. I'd better go away for a while.
Allan
> Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr wrote:
>
> > On 3 Jun, 21:18, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
> > > > thing.
> > >
> > > Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
> > > irritant to many people.
> > >
> > > No reason people should have to put up with it.
> >
> > indeed, **** the smokers
>
> Kinky. Whatever turns you on. Some of us can't afford to be so fussy.
>
> Allan
Apologies to all and sundry for the double post. It wasn't me, it was
the ever helpful
Google sending stuff off before I'd finished.
Damn. It's a triple post now. I'd better go away for a while.
Allan
Jun 8th 2007, 11:11 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
On 9 Jun, 12:31, allan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Benedetta wrote:
> > "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"
>
> > > If I've got a choice of where I'm going, yes. If I'm going to have to
> > > eat inside all the time, I want to be able to enjoy what I'm eating,
> > > otherwise what's the point?
>
> > Hi,
> > my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
> > smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
> > so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
> > pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
> > addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>
> > Benedetta
>
> So is alcohol. Can we take it that you don't drink wine or beer in
> front of other
> people?
>
> Allan
i've never heard of death by 2nd hand drink
> Benedetta wrote:
> > "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"
>
> > > If I've got a choice of where I'm going, yes. If I'm going to have to
> > > eat inside all the time, I want to be able to enjoy what I'm eating,
> > > otherwise what's the point?
>
> > Hi,
> > my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
> > smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
> > so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
> > pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
> > addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>
> > Benedetta
>
> So is alcohol. Can we take it that you don't drink wine or beer in
> front of other
> people?
>
> Allan
i've never heard of death by 2nd hand drink
Jun 9th 2007, 1:21 am
#132
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Re: smoking in Europe
allan wrote:
> poldy wrote:
>
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
>>>thing.
>>
>>Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
>>irritant to many people.
>>
>>No reason people should have to put up with it.
>
>
> Along with perfume, cars, mobile phones etc.
>
> No reason why people should have to put up with them.
>
> Let's be consistent and ban everything that's an irritant to many
> people.
> There won't be much left.
>
> Allan
>
Since perfume companies have started making their product with 5-6000
petrochemicals, some carcinogenic, some neurotoxins, some known to cause
allergic reactions, yes, they should be outlawed. But that industry is
essentially unregulated due to "trade secret" laws.
> poldy wrote:
>
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>a very small bit probably wont, a bit of live and let live is a good
>>>thing.
>>
>>Even if you can't get cancer from second-hand smoke, it's still an
>>irritant to many people.
>>
>>No reason people should have to put up with it.
>
>
> Along with perfume, cars, mobile phones etc.
>
> No reason why people should have to put up with them.
>
> Let's be consistent and ban everything that's an irritant to many
> people.
> There won't be much left.
>
> Allan
>
Since perfume companies have started making their product with 5-6000
petrochemicals, some carcinogenic, some neurotoxins, some known to cause
allergic reactions, yes, they should be outlawed. But that industry is
essentially unregulated due to "trade secret" laws.
Jun 9th 2007, 1:22 am
#133
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Re: smoking in Europe
pope-on-a-rope wrote:
> On 9 Jun, 12:31, allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Benedetta wrote:
>>
>>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"
>>
>>>>If I've got a choice of where I'm going, yes. If I'm going to have to
>>>>eat inside all the time, I want to be able to enjoy what I'm eating,
>>>>otherwise what's the point?
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
>>>smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
>>>so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
>>>pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
>>>addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>>
>>>Benedetta
>>
>>So is alcohol. Can we take it that you don't drink wine or beer in
>>front of other
>>people?
>>
>>Allan
>
>
> i've never heard of death by 2nd hand drink
>
Gee, does DUI fatalities, maybe 60,000 per year in the US alone, ring a
bell.
> On 9 Jun, 12:31, allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Benedetta wrote:
>>
>>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"
>>
>>>>If I've got a choice of where I'm going, yes. If I'm going to have to
>>>>eat inside all the time, I want to be able to enjoy what I'm eating,
>>>>otherwise what's the point?
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
>>>smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
>>>so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
>>>pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
>>>addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>>
>>>Benedetta
>>
>>So is alcohol. Can we take it that you don't drink wine or beer in
>>front of other
>>people?
>>
>>Allan
>
>
> i've never heard of death by 2nd hand drink
>
Gee, does DUI fatalities, maybe 60,000 per year in the US alone, ring a
bell.
Jun 9th 2007, 1:27 am
#134
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Re: smoking in Europe
"doofy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Gee, does DUI fatalities, maybe 60,000 per year in the US alone, ring a
> bell.
60,000!!!
In the UK less than 3,000 people a year are killed in traffic accidents,
including drunk pedestrians who walk under buses.
I beg leave to doubt that about one American in five thousand dies because
of drunk driving...
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
news:[email protected]...
>
> Gee, does DUI fatalities, maybe 60,000 per year in the US alone, ring a
> bell.
60,000!!!
In the UK less than 3,000 people a year are killed in traffic accidents,
including drunk pedestrians who walk under buses.
I beg leave to doubt that about one American in five thousand dies because
of drunk driving...
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Jun 9th 2007, 1:55 am
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Re: smoking in Europe
On 9 Jun, 15:22, doofy <[email protected]> wrote:
> pope-on-a-rope wrote:
> > On 9 Jun, 12:31, allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Benedetta wrote:
>
> >>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"
>
> >>>>If I've got a choice of where I'm going, yes. If I'm going to have to
> >>>>eat inside all the time, I want to be able to enjoy what I'm eating,
> >>>>otherwise what's the point?
>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
> >>>smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
> >>>so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
> >>>pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
> >>>addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>
> >>>Benedetta
>
> >>So is alcohol. Can we take it that you don't drink wine or beer in
> >>front of other
> >>people?
>
> >>Allan
>
> > i've never heard of death by 2nd hand drink
>
> Gee, does DUI fatalities, maybe 60,000 per year in the US alone, ring a
> bell.
therefore, drinking and driving is against the law, and explains why
smoking in public should also be against the law.
> pope-on-a-rope wrote:
> > On 9 Jun, 12:31, allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Benedetta wrote:
>
> >>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"
>
> >>>>If I've got a choice of where I'm going, yes. If I'm going to have to
> >>>>eat inside all the time, I want to be able to enjoy what I'm eating,
> >>>>otherwise what's the point?
>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>my name is Benedetta from Florence (Italy). Here in Italy it is forbidden to
> >>>smoke in bars, restaurant, public places, offices, trains, undergrounds and
> >>>so on. You can smoke in the streets or at home (if there are not babies or
> >>>pregnant women around). I find it wonderful, I hate smoke, if you are drug
> >>>addicted you don't do it in front of other people and smoke is a drug.
>
> >>>Benedetta
>
> >>So is alcohol. Can we take it that you don't drink wine or beer in
> >>front of other
> >>people?
>
> >>Allan
>
> > i've never heard of death by 2nd hand drink
>
> Gee, does DUI fatalities, maybe 60,000 per year in the US alone, ring a
> bell.
therefore, drinking and driving is against the law, and explains why
smoking in public should also be against the law.
