smoking in Europe
May 24th 2007, 12:56 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
On Thu, 24 May 2007 13:29:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:57:32 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> cant say I like the **** the smokers approach.
>> >
>> >It sounds a bit heavy handed, but I'm constantly being ****ed by their
>> >smoke.
>>
>> you wont be in future,
>
>Of course I will- they'll all be standing outside the entrance to the
>pubs and restaurants, blocking my way!
On a hot sunny day we'll have to sit inside.
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Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:57:32 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> cant say I like the **** the smokers approach.
>> >
>> >It sounds a bit heavy handed, but I'm constantly being ****ed by their
>> >smoke.
>>
>> you wont be in future,
>
>Of course I will- they'll all be standing outside the entrance to the
>pubs and restaurants, blocking my way!
On a hot sunny day we'll have to sit inside.
--
Martin
May 24th 2007, 1:06 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
On 24 May, 13:47, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:37:21 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >Most of the pubs here still have those
> >offensive (smoking policy: smoking allowed throughout) stickers on the
> >entrances. With luck it will be raining heavily on July 1.
>
> cant say I like the **** the smokers approach. I would have preferred
> some compromise so everybody could live thier lives the way they wish.
> The staff issue probably makes it impossible though.
>
> As Churchill said "magnaminity in victory". or something.
> --
> Mike Reid
> Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
> email me at "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
'**** the smokers'
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:37:21 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >Most of the pubs here still have those
> >offensive (smoking policy: smoking allowed throughout) stickers on the
> >entrances. With luck it will be raining heavily on July 1.
>
> cant say I like the **** the smokers approach. I would have preferred
> some compromise so everybody could live thier lives the way they wish.
> The staff issue probably makes it impossible though.
>
> As Churchill said "magnaminity in victory". or something.
> --
> Mike Reid
> Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
> email me at "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
'**** the smokers'
May 24th 2007, 1:07 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
On Thu, 24 May 2007 13:29:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> you wont be in future,
>
>Of course I will- they'll all be standing outside the entrance to the
>pubs and restaurants, blocking my way!
So what, I can live with that, so can you. What do you want, throw
them out of the country!
>> hence magnanimity in victory.
>>
>> >Even walking behind someone on the street can be uncomfortable.
>>
>> I can live with that.
>
>I can usually move. Some cigarettes don't half stink though.
they do.
>How does the lawaffect a bus shelter. When it's raining, I frequently have to
>share a limited space with a smoker. I hope they're included too.
dunno, dont use bus shelters, dont know any Essex girls
>Just a few weeks ago, we left a London restaurant when we realised you
>could smoke anywhere.
I *think* Quaglinos is one, but nobody seems to smoke, except the
cigarette girl and I dont mean cigarettes.
>As I've written before, there are plenty of
>restaurants here which are already non-smoking, although some have
>smoking bars, and there's that peeing in the pool analogy again. We were
>at the Chaophraya Thai restaurant here recently, which I thought was
>excellent (perhaps as close to taste of Thai food in Thailand I've had
>here so far) but it has a large bar area on the ground floor, and it
>wafted up...
If places have good extraction I probably wouldnt even notice.
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
email me at "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> you wont be in future,
>
>Of course I will- they'll all be standing outside the entrance to the
>pubs and restaurants, blocking my way!
So what, I can live with that, so can you. What do you want, throw
them out of the country!
>> hence magnanimity in victory.
>>
>> >Even walking behind someone on the street can be uncomfortable.
>>
>> I can live with that.
>
>I can usually move. Some cigarettes don't half stink though.
they do.
>How does the lawaffect a bus shelter. When it's raining, I frequently have to
>share a limited space with a smoker. I hope they're included too.
dunno, dont use bus shelters, dont know any Essex girls
>Just a few weeks ago, we left a London restaurant when we realised you
>could smoke anywhere.
I *think* Quaglinos is one, but nobody seems to smoke, except the
cigarette girl and I dont mean cigarettes.
>As I've written before, there are plenty of
>restaurants here which are already non-smoking, although some have
>smoking bars, and there's that peeing in the pool analogy again. We were
>at the Chaophraya Thai restaurant here recently, which I thought was
>excellent (perhaps as close to taste of Thai food in Thailand I've had
>here so far) but it has a large bar area on the ground floor, and it
>wafted up...
If places have good extraction I probably wouldnt even notice.
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
email me at "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
May 24th 2007, 1:26 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 13:29:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> you wont be in future,
> >
> >Of course I will- they'll all be standing outside the entrance to the
> >pubs and restaurants, blocking my way!
>
> So what, I can live with that, so can you. What do you want, throw
> them out of the country!
I'd like not to have to suffer cigarette smoke- it gets up my nose.
>
> >> hence magnanimity in victory.
> >>
> >> >Even walking behind someone on the street can be uncomfortable.
> >>
> >> I can live with that.
> >
> >I can usually move. Some cigarettes don't half stink though.
>
> they do.
>
> >How does the lawaffect a bus shelter. When it's raining, I frequently have to
> >share a limited space with a smoker. I hope they're included too.
>
> dunno, dont use bus shelters, dont know any Essex girls
I checked- and apparently the ban will extend to bus shelters and train
platforms, even when not 'enclosed.'
>
> >Just a few weeks ago, we left a London restaurant when we realised you
> >could smoke anywhere.
>
> I *think* Quaglinos is one,
I avoided it because I was unclear about the policy. The one I was
thinking of was a vietnamese restaurant- the food looked like it might
be very goo- shame.
> but nobody seems to smoke, except the
> cigarette girl and I dont mean cigarettes.
>
> >As I've written before, there are plenty of
> >restaurants here which are already non-smoking, although some have
> >smoking bars, and there's that peeing in the pool analogy again. We were
> >at the Chaophraya Thai restaurant here recently, which I thought was
> >excellent (perhaps as close to taste of Thai food in Thailand I've had
> >here so far) but it has a large bar area on the ground floor, and it
> >wafted up...
>
> If places have good extraction I probably wouldnt even notice.
Smoking groups always talk about good extraction- yet most bar owners
can't be arsed doing it.
--
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 13:29:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> you wont be in future,
> >
> >Of course I will- they'll all be standing outside the entrance to the
> >pubs and restaurants, blocking my way!
>
> So what, I can live with that, so can you. What do you want, throw
> them out of the country!
I'd like not to have to suffer cigarette smoke- it gets up my nose.
>
> >> hence magnanimity in victory.
> >>
> >> >Even walking behind someone on the street can be uncomfortable.
> >>
> >> I can live with that.
> >
> >I can usually move. Some cigarettes don't half stink though.
>
> they do.
>
> >How does the lawaffect a bus shelter. When it's raining, I frequently have to
> >share a limited space with a smoker. I hope they're included too.
>
> dunno, dont use bus shelters, dont know any Essex girls
I checked- and apparently the ban will extend to bus shelters and train
platforms, even when not 'enclosed.'
>
> >Just a few weeks ago, we left a London restaurant when we realised you
> >could smoke anywhere.
>
> I *think* Quaglinos is one,
I avoided it because I was unclear about the policy. The one I was
thinking of was a vietnamese restaurant- the food looked like it might
be very goo- shame.
> but nobody seems to smoke, except the
> cigarette girl and I dont mean cigarettes.
>
> >As I've written before, there are plenty of
> >restaurants here which are already non-smoking, although some have
> >smoking bars, and there's that peeing in the pool analogy again. We were
> >at the Chaophraya Thai restaurant here recently, which I thought was
> >excellent (perhaps as close to taste of Thai food in Thailand I've had
> >here so far) but it has a large bar area on the ground floor, and it
> >wafted up...
>
> If places have good extraction I probably wouldnt even notice.
Smoking groups always talk about good extraction- yet most bar owners
can't be arsed doing it.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 24th 2007, 1:32 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:26:51 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 13:29:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> you wont be in future,
>> >
>> >Of course I will- they'll all be standing outside the entrance to the
>> >pubs and restaurants, blocking my way!
>>
>> So what, I can live with that, so can you. What do you want, throw
>> them out of the country!
>
>I'd like not to have to suffer cigarette smoke- it gets up my nose.
>
>>
>> >> hence magnanimity in victory.
>> >>
>> >> >Even walking behind someone on the street can be uncomfortable.
>> >>
>> >> I can live with that.
>> >
>> >I can usually move. Some cigarettes don't half stink though.
>>
>> they do.
>>
>> >How does the lawaffect a bus shelter. When it's raining, I frequently have to
>> >share a limited space with a smoker. I hope they're included too.
>>
>> dunno, dont use bus shelters, dont know any Essex girls
>
>I checked- and apparently the ban will extend to bus shelters and train
>platforms, even when not 'enclosed.'
and Essex girls?
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 13:29:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> you wont be in future,
>> >
>> >Of course I will- they'll all be standing outside the entrance to the
>> >pubs and restaurants, blocking my way!
>>
>> So what, I can live with that, so can you. What do you want, throw
>> them out of the country!
>
>I'd like not to have to suffer cigarette smoke- it gets up my nose.
>
>>
>> >> hence magnanimity in victory.
>> >>
>> >> >Even walking behind someone on the street can be uncomfortable.
>> >>
>> >> I can live with that.
>> >
>> >I can usually move. Some cigarettes don't half stink though.
>>
>> they do.
>>
>> >How does the lawaffect a bus shelter. When it's raining, I frequently have to
>> >share a limited space with a smoker. I hope they're included too.
>>
>> dunno, dont use bus shelters, dont know any Essex girls
>
>I checked- and apparently the ban will extend to bus shelters and train
>platforms, even when not 'enclosed.'
and Essex girls?
--
Martin
May 24th 2007, 1:37 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:26:51 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> So what, I can live with that, so can you. What do you want, throw
>> them out of the country!
>
>I'd like not to have to suffer cigarette smoke- it gets up my nose.
It seems to me you and I wont have any significant problems in future.
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> So what, I can live with that, so can you. What do you want, throw
>> them out of the country!
>
>I'd like not to have to suffer cigarette smoke- it gets up my nose.
It seems to me you and I wont have any significant problems in future.
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
email me at "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
May 24th 2007, 6:37 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
"The Reid" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>It includes bars I take it?
>
> can one afford them?
> --
> Mike Reid
---------
No. You can't
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> On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>It includes bars I take it?
>
> can one afford them?
> --
> Mike Reid
---------
No. You can't
May 24th 2007, 6:41 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> "The Reid" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> > _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >
> >>It includes bars I take it?
> >
> > can one afford them?
> > --
> > Mike Reid
> ---------
> No. You can't
I'm surprised Bergen's prices isn't even more expensive, given how much
they've spent on outdoor seating and heating in many of their bars...
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> "The Reid" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> > _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >
> >>It includes bars I take it?
> >
> > can one afford them?
> > --
> > Mike Reid
> ---------
> No. You can't
I'm surprised Bergen's prices isn't even more expensive, given how much
they've spent on outdoor seating and heating in many of their bars...
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 24th 2007, 6:42 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
David, don't answer this guy. He's been trolling this group for a
while, never reads the replies.
while, never reads the replies.
May 24th 2007, 6:43 pm
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Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
> David, don't answer this guy. He's been trolling this group for a
> while, never reads the replies.
Oh, OK. I don't mind this one though- because it's an interesting
question, though the answers are often confusing- e.g. smoking situation
in Turkey.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> David, don't answer this guy. He's been trolling this group for a
> while, never reads the replies.
Oh, OK. I don't mind this one though- because it's an interesting
question, though the answers are often confusing- e.g. smoking situation
in Turkey.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 24th 2007, 6:47 pm
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Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
> David, don't answer this guy. He's been trolling this group for a
> while, never reads the replies.
Also, does anyone remember Sjoerd's post here a few years ago when the
subject sort of came up?
"Yes, we know that second hand smoke is a bit bad for your health.
However, Europeans value freedom and we don't like to be told what we
can and can not do. A little bit of second hand smoke will kill nobody.
Live and let live. "
LOL
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> David, don't answer this guy. He's been trolling this group for a
> while, never reads the replies.
Also, does anyone remember Sjoerd's post here a few years ago when the
subject sort of came up?
"Yes, we know that second hand smoke is a bit bad for your health.
However, Europeans value freedom and we don't like to be told what we
can and can not do. A little bit of second hand smoke will kill nobody.
Live and let live. "
LOL
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 24th 2007, 6:51 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:1hyllsr.17qxmx519u2hh7N%[email protected]...
> Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of
>> the
>> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on
>> public
>> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
>
> Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
>
Yes all places like cafeterias and so. They're allowed to provide a
separate room for smoking only where food and drinks aren't allowed but few
have done so as it's not so profitable. Smokers are instead advised to go
outside and you can usually see some hiding outside the places at night.
The law for restaurants is now 1y old and as it turned out it works well.
Smokers have generally accepted the rules without much whining and found the
indoor airquality so much better.
news:1hyllsr.17qxmx519u2hh7N%[email protected]...
> Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of
>> the
>> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on
>> public
>> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
>
> Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
>
Yes all places like cafeterias and so. They're allowed to provide a
separate room for smoking only where food and drinks aren't allowed but few
have done so as it's not so profitable. Smokers are instead advised to go
outside and you can usually see some hiding outside the places at night.
The law for restaurants is now 1y old and as it turned out it works well.
Smokers have generally accepted the rules without much whining and found the
indoor airquality so much better.
May 24th 2007, 6:53 pm
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Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:1hyllsr.17qxmx519u2hh7N%[email protected]...
> > Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >> news:[email protected] oups.com...
> >> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you.
> >> >
> >> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of
> >> the
> >> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on
> >> public
> >> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
> >
> > Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
> >
> Yes all places like cafeterias and so. They're allowed to provide a
> separate room for smoking only where food and drinks aren't allowed but few
> have done so as it's not so profitable. Smokers are instead advised to go
> outside and you can usually see some hiding outside the places at night.
> The law for restaurants is now 1y old and as it turned out it works well.
> Smokers have generally accepted the rules without much whining and found the
> indoor airquality so much better.
Same in Norway, but I was interested to see how many outdoor seating
areas with heating had sprouted up. My brother's a smoker, and I was
sitting outside with him in March, for goodness sake!
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:1hyllsr.17qxmx519u2hh7N%[email protected]...
> > Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >> news:[email protected] oups.com...
> >> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you.
> >> >
> >> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of
> >> the
> >> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on
> >> public
> >> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
> >
> > Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
> >
> Yes all places like cafeterias and so. They're allowed to provide a
> separate room for smoking only where food and drinks aren't allowed but few
> have done so as it's not so profitable. Smokers are instead advised to go
> outside and you can usually see some hiding outside the places at night.
> The law for restaurants is now 1y old and as it turned out it works well.
> Smokers have generally accepted the rules without much whining and found the
> indoor airquality so much better.
Same in Norway, but I was interested to see how many outdoor seating
areas with heating had sprouted up. My brother's a smoker, and I was
sitting outside with him in March, for goodness sake!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 24th 2007, 7:12 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of
>> the
>> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on
>> public
>> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
>
> Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
Did I see you say that you recently went to Portugal?
I was there three weeks ago and I can't say that I saw
anybody smoking in public places. But I did notice
that about 50% of the population reeked of a nasty
tobacco smell.
Presumably they have special smoking places that
I didn't frequent.
tim
news:1hyllsr.17qxmx519u2hh7N%[email protected]...
> Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of
>> the
>> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on
>> public
>> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
>
> Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
Did I see you say that you recently went to Portugal?
I was there three weeks ago and I can't say that I saw
anybody smoking in public places. But I did notice
that about 50% of the population reeked of a nasty
tobacco smell.
Presumably they have special smoking places that
I didn't frequent.
tim
May 24th 2007, 7:14 pm
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Re: smoking in Europe
tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1hyllsr.17qxmx519u2hh7N%[email protected]...
> > Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >> news:[email protected] oups.com...
> >> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you.
> >> >
> >> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of
> >> the
> >> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on
> >> public
> >> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
> >
> > Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
>
> Did I see you say that you recently went to Portugal?
Yes, on uk.railway I think
> I was there three weeks ago
<snap>
> and I can't say that I saw
> anybody smoking in public places.
Where were you? We were in Lisbon and Lagos- plenty of smoking in
restaurants, I'm afraid. We were even bothered by outside smoke in one
place in Lagos. I played the ugly British tourist and gave the german
speaking diners in the table opposite the daggers whenever possible.
The Ibis Liberdade we stayed at in Lisbon is completely non-smoking,
including _all_ rooms. Very nice indeed!
> But I did notice
> that about 50% of the population reeked of a nasty
> tobacco smell.
>
> Presumably they have special smoking places that
> I didn't frequent.
I got the impression many of them smoked like chimneys.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1hyllsr.17qxmx519u2hh7N%[email protected]...
> > Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >> news:[email protected] oups.com...
> >> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you.
> >> >
> >> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of
> >> the
> >> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on
> >> public
> >> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
> >
> > Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
>
> Did I see you say that you recently went to Portugal?
Yes, on uk.railway I think
> I was there three weeks ago
<snap>
> and I can't say that I saw
> anybody smoking in public places.
Where were you? We were in Lisbon and Lagos- plenty of smoking in
restaurants, I'm afraid. We were even bothered by outside smoke in one
place in Lagos. I played the ugly British tourist and gave the german
speaking diners in the table opposite the daggers whenever possible.
The Ibis Liberdade we stayed at in Lisbon is completely non-smoking,
including _all_ rooms. Very nice indeed!
> But I did notice
> that about 50% of the population reeked of a nasty
> tobacco smell.
>
> Presumably they have special smoking places that
> I didn't frequent.
I got the impression many of them smoked like chimneys.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007