smoking in Europe
May 24th 2007, 2:21 am
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smoking in Europe
I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
Thank you.
the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
Thank you.
May 24th 2007, 2:25 am
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars and
restaurants) include:
Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately think
of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars and
restaurants) include:
Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately think
of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 24th 2007, 2:29 am
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<[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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>I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>
> Thank you.
>
For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of the
female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on public
transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants. Hotels are likely to
provide smoking or non-smoking rooms.
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>I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>
> Thank you.
>
For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of the
female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on public
transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants. Hotels are likely to
provide smoking or non-smoking rooms.
May 24th 2007, 2:32 am
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Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected] oups.com...
> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of the
> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on public
> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected] oups.com...
> >I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> > the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> For Sweden the percentages of smokers are 14% of the male and 18% of the
> female grown up (above 15y) population. Smoking isn't allowed on public
> transport, in indoor public places nor restaurants.
Oh- I should add Sweden to my list then. It includes bars I take it?
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 24th 2007, 6:02 am
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Re: smoking in Europe
On 24 May, 04:21, [email protected] wrote:
> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>
> Thank you.
Belgian restaurants/trains/work places are non-smoking. There is talk
of making bars non-smoking, but its only talk.
> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>
> Thank you.
Belgian restaurants/trains/work places are non-smoking. There is talk
of making bars non-smoking, but its only talk.
May 24th 2007, 6:19 am
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>> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
> comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
> and restaurants) include:
> Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
> Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
> think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland. Some
restaurants still have ashtrays but you rarely see anyone using them.
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>> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
> comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
> and restaurants) include:
> Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
> Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
> think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland. Some
restaurants still have ashtrays but you rarely see anyone using them.
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk =============Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
May 24th 2007, 6:58 am
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On 24 May, 08:19, Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> > You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
> > comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
> > and restaurants) include:
> > Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
> > Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
> > think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>
> Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
> law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland. Some
> restaurants still have ashtrays but you rarely see anyone using them.
>
> ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk =============> Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
> <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
> stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
what about on buses ?
wrote:
> >> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> > You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
> > comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
> > and restaurants) include:
> > Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
> > Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
> > think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>
> Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
> law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland. Some
> restaurants still have ashtrays but you rarely see anyone using them.
>
> ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk =============> Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
> <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
> stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
what about on buses ?
May 24th 2007, 9:21 am
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 07:19:10 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>>> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>> You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
>> comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
>> and restaurants) include:
>> Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
>> Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
>> think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>
>Turkey has something fairly similar
Since when? No sign of even non smoking areas last year.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0109/p07s02-woeu.html
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>>> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>> You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
>> comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
>> and restaurants) include:
>> Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
>> Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
>> think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>
>Turkey has something fairly similar
Since when? No sign of even non smoking areas last year.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0109/p07s02-woeu.html
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Martin
May 24th 2007, 9:50 am
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Re: smoking in Europe
>>>> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>>>> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>>> You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
>>> comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
>>> and restaurants) include:
>>> Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
>>> Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
>>> think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>> Turkey has something fairly similar
> Since when? No sign of even non smoking areas last year.
A few years. I can't remember the exact year: in between two
visits a couple of years apart, Turkey went from being one giant
stinking ashtray to far cleaner than the UK. But the only place
you see no-smoking signs is on buses, so I don't know quite how
it works. I wrote the number of the antismoking law down a bit
of paper once but I'm buggered if I know where I put it. I'll
google some time tonight.
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>>>> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>>> You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
>>> comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
>>> and restaurants) include:
>>> Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
>>> Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
>>> think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>> Turkey has something fairly similar
> Since when? No sign of even non smoking areas last year.
A few years. I can't remember the exact year: in between two
visits a couple of years apart, Turkey went from being one giant
stinking ashtray to far cleaner than the UK. But the only place
you see no-smoking signs is on buses, so I don't know quite how
it works. I wrote the number of the antismoking law down a bit
of paper once but I'm buggered if I know where I put it. I'll
google some time tonight.
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk =============Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
May 24th 2007, 10:08 am
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>It includes bars I take it?
can one afford them?
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>It includes bars I take it?
can one afford them?
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May 24th 2007, 10:19 am
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 10:50:28 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>>>>> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>>>> You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
>>>> comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
>>>> and restaurants) include:
>>>> Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
>>>> Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
>>>> think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>>> Turkey has something fairly similar
>> Since when? No sign of even non smoking areas last year.
>
>A few years. I can't remember the exact year: in between two
>visits a couple of years apart, Turkey went from being one giant
>stinking ashtray to far cleaner than the UK. But the only place
>you see no-smoking signs is on buses, so I don't know quite how
>it works.
In the Netherlands, there has been a ban on smoking in cinemas and buses since
the early 1960s, so far it has not been extended to restaurants and bars.
A restaurant in Holland, that we sometimes visited advertises it's new no
smoking room, when we tried to use it the door was locked and we were told the
room was only available for private functions.
>I wrote the number of the antismoking law down a bit
>of paper once but I'm buggered if I know where I put it. I'll
>google some time tonight.
The link I posted talked about a proposed smoking ban being discussed in January
2007.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>>>>> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>>>> You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
>>>> comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
>>>> and restaurants) include:
>>>> Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
>>>> Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
>>>> think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>>> Turkey has something fairly similar
>> Since when? No sign of even non smoking areas last year.
>
>A few years. I can't remember the exact year: in between two
>visits a couple of years apart, Turkey went from being one giant
>stinking ashtray to far cleaner than the UK. But the only place
>you see no-smoking signs is on buses, so I don't know quite how
>it works.
In the Netherlands, there has been a ban on smoking in cinemas and buses since
the early 1960s, so far it has not been extended to restaurants and bars.
A restaurant in Holland, that we sometimes visited advertises it's new no
smoking room, when we tried to use it the door was locked and we were told the
room was only available for private functions.
>I wrote the number of the antismoking law down a bit
>of paper once but I'm buggered if I know where I put it. I'll
>google some time tonight.
The link I posted talked about a proposed smoking ban being discussed in January
2007.
--
Martin
May 24th 2007, 11:00 am
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Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> > You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
> > comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
> > and restaurants) include:
> > Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
> > Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
> > think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>
> Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
> law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland.
So you can't smoke in restaurants or bars in Turkey? I'll have to push
it up my list of places to visit!
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> >> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> > You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
> > comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
> > and restaurants) include:
> > Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
> > Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
> > think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>
> Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
> law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland.
So you can't smoke in restaurants or bars in Turkey? I'll have to push
it up my list of places to visit!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 24th 2007, 11:00 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >It includes bars I take it?
>
> can one afford them?
They wouldn't exist otherwise, but if it's anything like Norway, they
won't be cheap.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >It includes bars I take it?
>
> can one afford them?
They wouldn't exist otherwise, but if it's anything like Norway, they
won't be cheap.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 24th 2007, 11:08 am
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:00:17 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>> >> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>> > You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
>> > comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
>> > and restaurants) include:
>> > Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
>> > Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
>> > think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>>
>> Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
>> law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland.
>
>So you can't smoke in restaurants or bars in Turkey? I'll have to push
>it up my list of places to visit!
Of course you can and even worse everybody over about 12 chain smokes.
We spent our two weeks in June-July in Turkey last year, constantly on the move
trying to avoid cigarette smoke.
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
>> >> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
>> > You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
>> > comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
>> > and restaurants) include:
>> > Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
>> > Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
>> > think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
>>
>> Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
>> law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland.
>
>So you can't smoke in restaurants or bars in Turkey? I'll have to push
>it up my list of places to visit!
Of course you can and even worse everybody over about 12 chain smokes.
We spent our two weeks in June-July in Turkey last year, constantly on the move
trying to avoid cigarette smoke.
--
Martin
May 24th 2007, 11:14 am
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:00:17 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> >> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> >> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> >> > You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
> >> > comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
> >> > and restaurants) include:
> >> > Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
> >> > Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
> >> > think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
> >>
> >> Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
> >> law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland.
> >
> >So you can't smoke in restaurants or bars in Turkey? I'll have to push
> >it up my list of places to visit!
>
> Of course you can and even worse everybody over about 12 chain smokes.
>
> We spent our two weeks in June-July in Turkey last year, constantly on the
> move trying to avoid cigarette smoke.
Oh- OK then- I'll scrub Turkey then, at least in weather when I'd have
to sit inside...
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:00:17 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> >> I was just wondering how smoking in Europe compares with smoking in
> >> >> the U.S. I'd like to find a European country with almost no smoking.
> >> > You can find this out on the internet. Countries with fairly
> >> > comprehensive bans on smoking in public places (including bars
> >> > and restaurants) include:
> >> > Ireland, Italy, Norway, Scotland, Wales, and as of this July, England.
> >> > Other countries are enacting similar laws, but I can't immediately
> >> > think of other European countries with laws as stringent at the moment.
> >>
> >> Turkey has something fairly similar - I've lost the reference to the
> >> law, but the effect has been much the same as in Scotland.
> >
> >So you can't smoke in restaurants or bars in Turkey? I'll have to push
> >it up my list of places to visit!
>
> Of course you can and even worse everybody over about 12 chain smokes.
>
> We spent our two weeks in June-July in Turkey last year, constantly on the
> move trying to avoid cigarette smoke.
Oh- OK then- I'll scrub Turkey then, at least in weather when I'd have
to sit inside...
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007