Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
Jun 30th 2005, 9:41 am
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:15:08 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]> arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... Better wait until you find out what being goosed means. :-)
He goosed you, na na nè re...
some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... Better wait until you find out what being goosed means. :-)
He goosed you, na na nè re...
Jun 30th 2005, 2:36 pm
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
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Earl Evleth wrote:
> On 30/06/05 14:04, in article [email protected],
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > AMSTERDAM < The June heatwave was a distant memory on Wednesday night
> > as downpours caused serious flooding in parts of the south of the
> > Netherlands.
> I thought most of Holland was below sea level. But you have
> this little boy who keeps his finger in the dike.
in Amsterdam its pronounced dyke
NO
In Amsterdam (and the rest of the Netherlands) it is pronounced "dayk" and
spelt "dijk"
Gerrit - Oz
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Earl Evleth wrote:
> On 30/06/05 14:04, in article [email protected],
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > AMSTERDAM < The June heatwave was a distant memory on Wednesday night
> > as downpours caused serious flooding in parts of the south of the
> > Netherlands.
> I thought most of Holland was below sea level. But you have
> this little boy who keeps his finger in the dike.
in Amsterdam its pronounced dyke
NO
In Amsterdam (and the rest of the Netherlands) it is pronounced "dayk" and
spelt "dijk"
Gerrit - Oz
Jun 30th 2005, 3:39 pm
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
Earl Evleth wrote:
> I thought most of Holland was below sea level. But you have
> this little boy who keeps his finger in the dike.
An Amsterdam tour guide told us that the fable of the boy and
his finger in the dike is not well-known in Holland. The legend
of Hans Brinker is not even based on fact, but is derived from
an American novel...
The legend of the brave Dutch boy, Hans Brinker, who supposedly
put his finger in the dyke to prevent a flood, was a literary invention
of American writer Mary Elizabeth Mapes Dodge (1831-1905), who
was born in New York. Hans Brinker was made famous by her
children's novel, Hans Brinker or the Silver Skates (1865). There is
a statue of Hans Brinker in Spaarndam, erected to please American
tourists. -- http://www.thehollandring.com/hans-brinker-story.shtml
=R=
> I thought most of Holland was below sea level. But you have
> this little boy who keeps his finger in the dike.
An Amsterdam tour guide told us that the fable of the boy and
his finger in the dike is not well-known in Holland. The legend
of Hans Brinker is not even based on fact, but is derived from
an American novel...
The legend of the brave Dutch boy, Hans Brinker, who supposedly
put his finger in the dyke to prevent a flood, was a literary invention
of American writer Mary Elizabeth Mapes Dodge (1831-1905), who
was born in New York. Hans Brinker was made famous by her
children's novel, Hans Brinker or the Silver Skates (1865). There is
a statue of Hans Brinker in Spaarndam, erected to please American
tourists. -- http://www.thehollandring.com/hans-brinker-story.shtml
=R=
Jun 30th 2005, 6:13 pm
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
On 1/07/05 5:39, in article [email protected],
"Rog'" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth wrote:
>> I thought most of Holland was below sea level. But you have
>> this little boy who keeps his finger in the dike.
>
> An Amsterdam tour guide told us that the fable of the boy and
> his finger in the dike is not well-known in Holland. The legend
> of Hans Brinker is not even based on fact, but is derived from
> an American novel...
>
> The legend of the brave Dutch boy, Hans Brinker, who supposedly
> put his finger in the dyke to prevent a flood, was a literary invention
> of American writer Mary Elizabeth Mapes Dodge (1831-1905), who
> was born in New York. Hans Brinker was made famous by her
> children's novel, Hans Brinker or the Silver Skates (1865). There is
> a statue of Hans Brinker in Spaarndam, erected to please American
> tourists. -- http://www.thehollandring.com/hans-brinker-story.shtml
> =R=
I knew this but thought it might get a comment from Martin.
I don't know if American kids read this stuff any more, as a kid
from the 30s we all had copies of the "Silver Skates" etc. Since
Holland was also a victim of Germans invasion, there was a lot of
natural sympathy for the Dutch in my era.
Note this was not always the case and historical conflict existed
because of Dutch holding territory in North American, New York
City is well known. The term "the dirty Dutch" was used as
an ethnic slur. The term is ironic now since the Dutch have
the reputation of being squeeky clean.
The word "Yankee" was originally a ethnic slur but it traveled a lot.
******
The origins of "Yankee" have been fiercely debated throughout the history of
the Republic, and to this day the Oxford English Dictionary says the source
of the word is "unascertained." Perhaps the most widely accepted explanation
was advanced by H.L. Mencken, the well-known newsman-scholar (and don't tell
me that isn't an unusual combination), who argued that Yankee derives from
the expression Jan Kaas, literally "John Cheese." This supposedly was a
derogatory nickname bestowed on the Dutch by the Germans and the Flemish in
the 1600s. (Wisconsin cheeseheads can undoubtedly relate.)
The English later applied the term to Dutch pirates, and later still Dutch
settlers in New York applied it to English settlers in Connecticut, who were
known for their piratical trading practices. During the French and Indian
War the British general James Wolfe took to referring derisively to the
native New Englanders in his army as Yankees, and the term was widely
popularized during the Revolutionary War by the song "Yankee Doodle." By the
war's end, of course, the colonists had perversely adopted the term as their
own. Southerners used Yankee pejoratively to describe Northerners during the
Civil War, but found themselves, along with all other Americans, called thus
by the English during world wars I and II.
****
Ethnic slurs can be turned around, and the word Yankee was, Americans don't
object to its use. The Brits sometimes refer to us as "Yanks" but some 3rd
world peoples talk about "Yankee Imperialists". The Aussies have recently
used the name of "Sepos" with regard to Americans (referring to septic
tanks!), and of course the French have used the term "Amerloques". The US
is filled with people who now have pride in the "red neck" or "cracker"
origins, and there are "Trailer Trash" rock groups, with T-shirts and all.
The French find the "frog" attribution amusing and their referring to the
Brits as "les rosbifs" is not that mean. Roastbeef does carry a better
image than the deadly "banger".
Anyway, the Dutch stories of my boyhood still have its effects, I have an
affectionate feeling for the Dutch.
So don't forget the boy with his finger in the dyke or whatever the spelling
is and whoever wrote the story. The story doesn't have a mean bone in it.
Earl
"Rog'" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth wrote:
>> I thought most of Holland was below sea level. But you have
>> this little boy who keeps his finger in the dike.
>
> An Amsterdam tour guide told us that the fable of the boy and
> his finger in the dike is not well-known in Holland. The legend
> of Hans Brinker is not even based on fact, but is derived from
> an American novel...
>
> The legend of the brave Dutch boy, Hans Brinker, who supposedly
> put his finger in the dyke to prevent a flood, was a literary invention
> of American writer Mary Elizabeth Mapes Dodge (1831-1905), who
> was born in New York. Hans Brinker was made famous by her
> children's novel, Hans Brinker or the Silver Skates (1865). There is
> a statue of Hans Brinker in Spaarndam, erected to please American
> tourists. -- http://www.thehollandring.com/hans-brinker-story.shtml
> =R=
I knew this but thought it might get a comment from Martin.
I don't know if American kids read this stuff any more, as a kid
from the 30s we all had copies of the "Silver Skates" etc. Since
Holland was also a victim of Germans invasion, there was a lot of
natural sympathy for the Dutch in my era.
Note this was not always the case and historical conflict existed
because of Dutch holding territory in North American, New York
City is well known. The term "the dirty Dutch" was used as
an ethnic slur. The term is ironic now since the Dutch have
the reputation of being squeeky clean.
The word "Yankee" was originally a ethnic slur but it traveled a lot.
******
The origins of "Yankee" have been fiercely debated throughout the history of
the Republic, and to this day the Oxford English Dictionary says the source
of the word is "unascertained." Perhaps the most widely accepted explanation
was advanced by H.L. Mencken, the well-known newsman-scholar (and don't tell
me that isn't an unusual combination), who argued that Yankee derives from
the expression Jan Kaas, literally "John Cheese." This supposedly was a
derogatory nickname bestowed on the Dutch by the Germans and the Flemish in
the 1600s. (Wisconsin cheeseheads can undoubtedly relate.)
The English later applied the term to Dutch pirates, and later still Dutch
settlers in New York applied it to English settlers in Connecticut, who were
known for their piratical trading practices. During the French and Indian
War the British general James Wolfe took to referring derisively to the
native New Englanders in his army as Yankees, and the term was widely
popularized during the Revolutionary War by the song "Yankee Doodle." By the
war's end, of course, the colonists had perversely adopted the term as their
own. Southerners used Yankee pejoratively to describe Northerners during the
Civil War, but found themselves, along with all other Americans, called thus
by the English during world wars I and II.
****
Ethnic slurs can be turned around, and the word Yankee was, Americans don't
object to its use. The Brits sometimes refer to us as "Yanks" but some 3rd
world peoples talk about "Yankee Imperialists". The Aussies have recently
used the name of "Sepos" with regard to Americans (referring to septic
tanks!), and of course the French have used the term "Amerloques". The US
is filled with people who now have pride in the "red neck" or "cracker"
origins, and there are "Trailer Trash" rock groups, with T-shirts and all.
The French find the "frog" attribution amusing and their referring to the
Brits as "les rosbifs" is not that mean. Roastbeef does carry a better
image than the deadly "banger".
Anyway, the Dutch stories of my boyhood still have its effects, I have an
affectionate feeling for the Dutch.
So don't forget the boy with his finger in the dyke or whatever the spelling
is and whoever wrote the story. The story doesn't have a mean bone in it.
Earl
Jun 30th 2005, 9:10 pm
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:41:26 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:15:08 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]> arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ...
> ... Better wait until you find out what being goosed means. :-)
>He goosed you, na na nè re...
The pervert!
--
Martin
>On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:15:08 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]> arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ...
> ... Better wait until you find out what being goosed means. :-)
>He goosed you, na na nè re...
The pervert!
--
Martin
Jun 30th 2005, 9:13 pm
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:41:26 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:15:08 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]> arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ...
> ... Better wait until you find out what being goosed means. :-)
>He goosed you, na na nè re...
...
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=goose
"Slang. A poke, prod, or pinch between or on the buttocks."
--
Martin
>On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:15:08 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]> arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ...
> ... Better wait until you find out what being goosed means. :-)
>He goosed you, na na nè re...
...
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=goose
"Slang. A poke, prod, or pinch between or on the buttocks."
--
Martin
Jun 30th 2005, 11:38 pm
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Earl Evleth wrote:
> The origins of "Yankee" have been fiercely debated throughout the history of
> the Republic, and to this day the Oxford English Dictionary says the source
> of the word is "unascertained." Perhaps the most widely accepted explanation
> was advanced by H.L. Mencken, the well-known newsman-scholar (and don't tell
> me that isn't an unusual combination), who argued that Yankee derives from
> the expression Jan Kaas, literally "John Cheese." This supposedly was a
> derogatory nickname bestowed on the Dutch by the Germans and the Flemish in
> the 1600s. (Wisconsin cheeseheads can undoubtedly relate.)
>
Isn't it more likely to have evolved from 'jonkheer'?
Sheila
> The origins of "Yankee" have been fiercely debated throughout the history of
> the Republic, and to this day the Oxford English Dictionary says the source
> of the word is "unascertained." Perhaps the most widely accepted explanation
> was advanced by H.L. Mencken, the well-known newsman-scholar (and don't tell
> me that isn't an unusual combination), who argued that Yankee derives from
> the expression Jan Kaas, literally "John Cheese." This supposedly was a
> derogatory nickname bestowed on the Dutch by the Germans and the Flemish in
> the 1600s. (Wisconsin cheeseheads can undoubtedly relate.)
>
Isn't it more likely to have evolved from 'jonkheer'?
Sheila
Jul 1st 2005, 2:32 am
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
On 1/07/05 13:38, in article [email protected], "S Viemeister"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth wrote:
>
>> The origins of "Yankee" have been fiercely debated throughout the history of
>> the Republic, and to this day the Oxford English Dictionary says the source
>> of the word is "unascertained." Perhaps the most widely accepted explanation
>> was advanced by H.L. Mencken, the well-known newsman-scholar (and don't tell
>> me that isn't an unusual combination), who argued that Yankee derives from
>> the expression Jan Kaas, literally "John Cheese." This supposedly was a
>> derogatory nickname bestowed on the Dutch by the Germans and the Flemish in
>> the 1600s. (Wisconsin cheeseheads can undoubtedly relate.)
>>
> Isn't it more likely to have evolved from 'jonkheer'?
>
> Sheila
I don't have an informed opinion on the origin of the word Yankee. I had
only heard of the origin with regard to the New York Dutch calling
the Anglos to the north, pirates, or Yankees. As for baseball, the
original NY teams (Giants and Yankees) referred to the Pirates as
being from Pittsburg!
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth wrote:
>
>> The origins of "Yankee" have been fiercely debated throughout the history of
>> the Republic, and to this day the Oxford English Dictionary says the source
>> of the word is "unascertained." Perhaps the most widely accepted explanation
>> was advanced by H.L. Mencken, the well-known newsman-scholar (and don't tell
>> me that isn't an unusual combination), who argued that Yankee derives from
>> the expression Jan Kaas, literally "John Cheese." This supposedly was a
>> derogatory nickname bestowed on the Dutch by the Germans and the Flemish in
>> the 1600s. (Wisconsin cheeseheads can undoubtedly relate.)
>>
> Isn't it more likely to have evolved from 'jonkheer'?
>
> Sheila
I don't have an informed opinion on the origin of the word Yankee. I had
only heard of the origin with regard to the New York Dutch calling
the Anglos to the north, pirates, or Yankees. As for baseball, the
original NY teams (Giants and Yankees) referred to the Pirates as
being from Pittsburg!
Jul 1st 2005, 2:46 am
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 30 June 2005
> AMSTERDAM - The June heatwave was a distant memory on Wednesday night
> as downpours caused serious flooding in parts of the south of the
> Netherlands.
How much rain actually fell (in mm)?
I ask this because here in Australia we have just had some rain causing
floods on the east coast. Carrara on the Gold Coast had 587mm in the 30
hours to 3pm (Aust Eastern Time) yesterday.
Coolangatta received 386mm!
A bit further south the city of Lismore has just finished spending
$19million on a new "dyke" 10.4metres high and the river got to 9.8metres.
The levy bank was due to be inaugurated today! Talk about timing.
Gerrit - Oz
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> 30 June 2005
> AMSTERDAM - The June heatwave was a distant memory on Wednesday night
> as downpours caused serious flooding in parts of the south of the
> Netherlands.
How much rain actually fell (in mm)?
I ask this because here in Australia we have just had some rain causing
floods on the east coast. Carrara on the Gold Coast had 587mm in the 30
hours to 3pm (Aust Eastern Time) yesterday.
Coolangatta received 386mm!
A bit further south the city of Lismore has just finished spending
$19million on a new "dyke" 10.4metres high and the river got to 9.8metres.
The levy bank was due to be inaugurated today! Talk about timing.
Gerrit - Oz
Jul 1st 2005, 3:15 am
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:46:10 +0800, "Gerrit 't Hart" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> 30 June 2005
>> AMSTERDAM - The June heatwave was a distant memory on Wednesday night
>> as downpours caused serious flooding in parts of the south of the
>> Netherlands.
>How much rain actually fell (in mm)?
10-20mmm I'd guess.
--
Martin
wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> 30 June 2005
>> AMSTERDAM - The June heatwave was a distant memory on Wednesday night
>> as downpours caused serious flooding in parts of the south of the
>> Netherlands.
>How much rain actually fell (in mm)?
10-20mmm I'd guess.
--
Martin
Jul 1st 2005, 3:19 am
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
On 30/06/05 23:15, in article [email protected],
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Better wait until you find out what being goosed means.
The word was developed by the Americans, I believe.
"To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks."
One might assume that the human female is more sensitive to this
outrage but in fact men tend to be very goosey, I have been told
by some women who have taken their revenge.
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Better wait until you find out what being goosed means.
The word was developed by the Americans, I believe.
"To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks."
One might assume that the human female is more sensitive to this
outrage but in fact men tend to be very goosey, I have been told
by some women who have taken their revenge.
Jul 1st 2005, 3:29 am
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:19:04 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 30/06/05 23:15, in article [email protected],
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Better wait until you find out what being goosed means.
>The word was developed by the Americans, I believe.
>"To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks."
>One might assume that the human female is more sensitive to this
>outrage but in fact men tend to be very goosey, I have been told
>by some women who have taken their revenge.
Please don't over excite Magda and watch out for you taiters.
--
Martin
wrote:
>On 30/06/05 23:15, in article [email protected],
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Better wait until you find out what being goosed means.
>The word was developed by the Americans, I believe.
>"To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks."
>One might assume that the human female is more sensitive to this
>outrage but in fact men tend to be very goosey, I have been told
>by some women who have taken their revenge.
Please don't over excite Magda and watch out for you taiters.
--
Martin
Jul 1st 2005, 3:33 am
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:46:10 +0800, "Gerrit 't Hart" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> 30 June 2005
>> AMSTERDAM - The June heatwave was a distant memory on Wednesday night
>> as downpours caused serious flooding in parts of the south of the
>> Netherlands.
>How much rain actually fell (in mm)?
According to the Dutch Met Office 80 mm
--
Martin
wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> 30 June 2005
>> AMSTERDAM - The June heatwave was a distant memory on Wednesday night
>> as downpours caused serious flooding in parts of the south of the
>> Netherlands.
>How much rain actually fell (in mm)?
According to the Dutch Met Office 80 mm
--
Martin
Jul 1st 2005, 4:18 am
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Re: Serious flooding as sunshine gives way to downpour
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:29:57 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]> arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:19:04 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
... wrote:
...
... >On 30/06/05 23:15, in article [email protected],
... >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
... >
... >> Better wait until you find out what being goosed means.
... >
... >
... >The word was developed by the Americans, I believe.
... >
... >"To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks."
... >
... >One might assume that the human female is more sensitive to this
... >outrage but in fact men tend to be very goosey, I have been told
... >by some women who have taken their revenge.
... >
...
... Please don't over excite Magda and watch out for you taiters.
You what ?
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:19:04 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
... wrote:
...
... >On 30/06/05 23:15, in article [email protected],
... >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
... >
... >> Better wait until you find out what being goosed means.
... >
... >
... >The word was developed by the Americans, I believe.
... >
... >"To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks."
... >
... >One might assume that the human female is more sensitive to this
... >outrage but in fact men tend to be very goosey, I have been told
... >by some women who have taken their revenge.
... >
...
... Please don't over excite Magda and watch out for you taiters.
You what ?
Jul 1st 2005, 4:20 am
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:18:56 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:29:57 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]> arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:19:04 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
> ... wrote:
> ...
> ... >On 30/06/05 23:15, in article [email protected],
> ... >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... >
> ... >> Better wait until you find out what being goosed means.
> ... >
> ... >
> ... >The word was developed by the Americans, I believe.
> ... >
> ... >"To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks."
> ... >
> ... >One might assume that the human female is more sensitive to this
> ... >outrage but in fact men tend to be very goosey, I have been told
> ... >by some women who have taken their revenge.
> ... >
> ...
> ... Please don't over excite Magda and watch out for your taiters.
>You what ?
It wasn't meant for you.
--
Martin
>On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:29:57 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]> arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:19:04 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
> ... wrote:
> ...
> ... >On 30/06/05 23:15, in article [email protected],
> ... >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... >
> ... >> Better wait until you find out what being goosed means.
> ... >
> ... >
> ... >The word was developed by the Americans, I believe.
> ... >
> ... >"To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks."
> ... >
> ... >One might assume that the human female is more sensitive to this
> ... >outrage but in fact men tend to be very goosey, I have been told
> ... >by some women who have taken their revenge.
> ... >
> ...
> ... Please don't over excite Magda and watch out for your taiters.
>You what ?
It wasn't meant for you.
--
Martin
