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Re: Security measures?
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:03:48 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote: >Following up to [email protected] >>> Probably it was too hot and she couldn't afford a/c. >>At least she kept her hiking shorts on. >>Or did she? >she wearing trousers, but what is that below her navel, a mobile? A source of considerable pleasure. -- Martin |
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Then WTF are you commenting on it for?
Rog is going to be in FLA and that isn't 6000 Miles away. Tim K "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Timothy Kroesen writes: > > You're speaking from absolutely no experience whatsoever again, *as > > usual*. I live about Sixty Miles from the park and have been there at > > least 25 times over the last Forty or so years. > How many people 6000 miles from the park have been there? |
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:07:15 GMT, "Timothy Kroesen"
<[email protected]> wrote: >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:[email protected].. . >> Timothy Kroesen writes: >> > You're speaking from absolutely no experience whatsoever again, *as >> > usual*. I live about Sixty Miles from the park and have been there >at >> > least 25 times over the last Forty or so years. >> How many people 6000 miles from the park have been there? >Then WTF are you commenting on it for? >Rog is going to be in FLA and that isn't 6000 Miles away. Mixi is building a vast database of useless facts. -- Martin |
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"Raptor" (at CP) is the best amusement park ride I've ever been on.
Wait a bit extra for the front car and you literally think you're flying; the 'butterfly loop' sends you ass over elbows twice in about a second. Steel makes the entire ride ultra smooth, as expected with the steel coasters. I'm not knocking the 'woodies'; in their day the inherent vibration, cacophony and being knocked around made up for the lack of present day performance and engineering in other ways...<g> If you haven't been there you really owe yourself a trip; not to mention all the old 'woodies' you can ride in the various parks within 100 miles (1.5 hrs drive time) of Cleveland; add Cincy into the mix and driving range you'll see we have a coaster Mecca here in Ohio! Tim K "Icono Clast" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1123673168.3e1d49959e970d1c5bdbe341ba815d47@t eranews... > Mxsmanic wrote: > > Only if you like roller coasters and you're only interested in > > enjoying yourself during a few months in summer. > Make that "steel-coasters". My last visit, it had only two > roller-coasters and about eleven steel-coasters. > > Timothy Kroesen writes: > >>How many people 6000 miles from the park have been there? > I'm about two thousand. > >> Cedar point is open Six Months of the Year and has a myriad of > >> things to offer besides the coasters. Just read the website to > >> note all the other attractions you apparently illiterate and > >> clearly foolish pundit... > > > > I don't really see any attraction to the place except the roller > > coasters. > Only one of the roller-coasters is decent and most of the > steel-coasters aren't very interesting. The exceptions, though, are nice. > > if one lives only sixty miles away it might be a place to go, but > > otherwise I don't see any point. > If you're a steel-coaster freak, I do. > __________________________________________________ _________________ > A roller-coaster freak in San Francisco. > < http://geocities.com/dancefest/ >-< http://geocities.com/iconoc/ > > ICQ: < http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19098103 > ---> IClast at SFbay Net |
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katyjane wrote:
> A friend has just booked a flight though Expedia - London to Cancun via > Toronto on Air Canada. Almost immediately, he got an email instructing > him to telephone a given number tomorrow with his date of birth and > passport number (he's not travelling until Xmas!). > > katyjane > Today's news might help explain this episode. It's called pre-screening. See more at http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20050...4305-6137r.htm John Bermont -- ------------------------------------------------------ * * * Mastering Independent Budget Travel * * * http://www.enjoy-europe.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ This email powered by Thunderbird. Learn more at: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ |
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Timothy Kroesen writes:
> Then WTF are you commenting on it for? > > Rog is going to be in FLA and that isn't 6000 Miles away. More like a thousand miles. Disney is a lot closer. |
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Bill McKee wrote:
> > Knott's added lots of attractions / rides. We still eat dinner and or > breakfast there occasionally as the food is good. Back in the 60's they had > the parachute ride, and you paid for that and the other couple of tides. > I liked it better back in the sixties, when it was just a "ghost town" with a couple of restaurants and some shops, plus the aforementioned folk group. (They also used to offer a stage-coach ride, with a "surprise" holdup by costumed "outlaws" on horseback, somewhere along the route.) |
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Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 19:13:11 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>(We used to go there to >>hear a rather good folk-singing group, who did several >>open-air shows a day - unamplified, in a very small >>"arena".) The park began charging a nominal admission to >>discourage hippies, back in the sixties - now Knott's prices >>rival Disney's!> > > Maybe the attractions too by, now? :-) I doubt it! (Even Disneyland isn't as much of an "enchanted kingdom" as it was when Disney himself was alive.) |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> I doubt it! (Even Disneyland isn't as much of an "enchanted > kingdom" as it was when Disney himself was alive.) Disney has been surviving on inertia created by Walt ever since his death. Nobody has ever really been able to fill his shoes. If only he had not been a smoker! |
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:01:20 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote: >EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: >> I doubt it! (Even Disneyland isn't as much of an "enchanted >> kingdom" as it was when Disney himself was alive.) >Disney has been surviving on inertia created by Walt ever since his >death. Nobody has ever really been able to fill his shoes. Bloody difficult in a cryostat. > If only >he had not been a smoker! He'd be 104? -- Martin |
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:09:25 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote: >Martin wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 19:13:11 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>(We used to go there to >>>hear a rather good folk-singing group, who did several >>>open-air shows a day - unamplified, in a very small >>>"arena".) The park began charging a nominal admission to >>>discourage hippies, back in the sixties - now Knott's prices >>>rival Disney's!> >> >> Maybe the attractions too by, now? :-) >I doubt it! (Even Disneyland isn't as much of an "enchanted >kingdom" as it was when Disney himself was alive.) I found the atmosphere in Disneyland Anaheim very nice, even if not quite enchanting. It certainly hadn't got any worse since the first time I visited. -- Martin |
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Timothy Kroesen wrote:
> "Raptor" (at CP) is the best amusement park ride I've ever been > on. . . . I'm not knocking the 'woodies'; in their day the > inherent vibration, cacophony and being knocked around made up for > the lack of present day performance and engineering in other > ways...<g> <g> all you like; I find steel-coasters repetitive, boring, and often painful. There are exceptions, however: Superman: Ride of Steel as presented at Riverside in New York is . . . well read what follows the sig. > If you haven't been [to Cedar Point] you really owe yourself a > trip; not to mention all the old 'woodies' you can ride in the > various parks within 100 miles (1.5 hrs drive time) of Cleveland; > add Cincy into the mix and driving range you'll see we have a > coaster Mecca here in Ohio! Yup. I've visited many, perhaps most, maybe all of your parks with 'coasters. Even managed to get to the Screamin' Eagle and ride both of the 'coasters in that private place. __________________________________________________ _________________ A roller-coaster freak in San Francisco. < http://geocities.com/dancefest/ >-< http://geocities.com/iconoc/ > ICQ: < http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19098103 > ---> IClast at SFbay Net From: Icono Clast Local: Tues, Jul 3 2001 10:46 pm Subject: Is it really . . . Some might recall that, last year, I was at an amusement park where Superman: Ride of Steel's train spent the day sitting on the lift. I commented that "it looks as if I'd love it". Some might also recall that I've often said that no ride that will kill you has ever been, or ever will be, built. At Darien Lake I got my first rides on a Superman: Ride of Steel and, as expected, I loved it. Dorney Park's excellent hyper fell to second place on my hyper list. But I wondered, looking at Superman: Ride of Steel last year and riding it this year: Why all the wasted track? When I got to Riverside I saw Intamin's brilliant revision of the ride. But I also saw at least four people stuck in it, the train removed from service and a crew of workers disassemble it to free the hapless captives. I also actually saw, incidentally, Lake Compounce's (B)Zoomerang valley the day after Boulderdash tragically killed a young worker. I tell non-dancers to visit their local bar to look at the faces of the tit and ass shakers and then to visit a place where real dancers congregate to look at their faces for each group's faces convey an unmistakable message. The faces of the riders returning to Riverside's Superman: Ride of Steel station also conveyed an unmistakable message. On the way up the lift for my first ride during which I learned of the surprises I didn't know about, a guy in back of me was improvising a rap: We're goin' up A long way up We're goin' up now Real high -- wow! Beyond the crest, however, I heard nothing more of that rap. What a wonderful, surprise-filled, ride it was! It far exceeded my expectations in every respect! Fast, smooth, pain-free, comfortable, and a true thrill ride conforming to the best traditions of the genre. But how was the back? After my rear seatmate suggested I lower the bar, he asked "Isn't that dangerous?" as we were on our way up the lift and I was busily loosening the belt. "If I'm not here at the end of the ride, yes. If I am, no." I was there at the end of the ride, during which I held on tightly, beaming with joy as here's a steel-coaster with a thrill-ride quality I knew was possible but expected to never experience. Riverside's Superman: Ride of Steel is among the very few 'coasters standing today that delivers equally well in front or back. On this ride, I think it would make no difference whatsoever where one sits as the air time is so pervasive and powerful that the rear delivers on the way up just as the front does on the way down. Brilliant! I rode it only six times in spite of the two-train waits because I was straining so hard to keep my legs, needed for dancing that night in Chicopee, bent that I feared they would get bruised and/or strained from the great forces and pressures to which they were being subjected. The two rides, Darien Lake's and Riverside's, are the only non-looping 'coasters of which I know that really need the safety devices they have as I believe each is capable of sending one flying. Yes, I believe each ride is capable of murder. This belief is enhanced by: An object flew from someone toward the front of the train. Normally such objects rise no higher than the eye-height, perhaps head-top, of the passengers. This object, at Riverside, rose two, perhaps three, feet above the riders' heads and hover'd long enough for me, in the back, to safely pass under it. At the end of a rear-seat ride, I said to the lovely young long-hair'd blonde in front of me "I hope your hair's clean; it spent most of the ride in my mouth." She wittily replied: "Then I hope your mouth's clean!" Kudos to Intamin for a brilliant design and the creation of a true thrill ride. Bravo! Kudos to Riverside for having it built for us to enjoy. Congratulations and thank you. . . . "the best coaster on the planet"? as Riverside claims? Yes, it probably is! It's a great ride, a true thrill ride, in a class of its own. Steel Force Local: Wed, Jul 4 2001 6:29 am Subject: Re: Is it really . . . Icono Clast wrote: > My rear seatmate suggested I lower the bar, he asked "Isn't that > dangerous?" as we were on our way up the lift and I was busily > loosening the belt. "If I'm not here at the end of the ride, yes. > If I am, no." once again the ASSHOLE shines! you've not only put yourself in danger you've taught a innocent "safety system respecting person" the WRONG thing. I personally would not doubt that YOU have indeed contributed DIRECTLY to the injury or DEATH of someone at an amusement park. GROW UP MORON! Icono Clast Local: Tues, Jul 10 2001 3:42 am Steel Force wrote: > the WRONG thing. What wrong thing? How to get out of a ride what the designers put into it for us to enjoy? How can you know about the innocence of my seatmate unless you were he? I am NOT a teacher (well, I can show you the basics of a few dances) and am responsible neither for the actions of others nor the behaviours of mine they might choose, or be stupid enough, to emulate. > I personally would not doubt that YOU have indeed contributed > DIRECTLY to the injury or DEATH of someone at an amusement park. If I've committed a crime, charge me! If I bear some liability, sue me! > GROW UP MORON! I recently retired and my mother, born in 1913, told me that since I've made it this far/long I don't hav'ta grow up. You, however, appear to have enough maturity for the both of us so you do your thang and I'll do mine. I do not criticize your failure to enjoy the wonderful things that designers build into rides for us to enjoy but don't mind your castigating me for getting more out of rides than you do. The loss is yours, not mine. Enjoy yourself with me as you deprive yourself at amusement parks. I'll continue to enjoy myself at amusement parks and let you continue to believe in your righteousness. As priests are taught to say, "Do as I say, not as I do". Perhaps you've failed to notice that I don't tell others what to do. From: "ChrisCoaster" Local: Wed, Jul 4 2001 8:55 am Subject: Re: Is it really . . . "Icono Clast" wrote: > The two rides, Darien Lake's and Riverside's, are the only > non-looping 'coasters of which I know that really need the > safety devices they have as I believe each is capable of sending > one flying. Yes, I believe each ride is capable of murder. That's why SROSs have seatbelts in addition to their lapbars and why the gentler Nitro doesn't. : ) |
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So WTF are you commenting on again? Oh yeah.. your own reading
incomprehension snipped away... > You're speaking from absolutely no experience whatsoever again, *as > usual*. I live about Sixty Miles from the park and have been there at > least 25 times over the last Forty or so years. "How many people 6000 miles from the park have been there?" (Mixi) Forget again your blanket statements regarding a place you've apparently never been to...? Tim K "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Timothy Kroesen writes: > > Then WTF are you commenting on it for? > > > > Rog is going to be in FLA and that isn't 6000 Miles away. > More like a thousand miles. Disney is a lot closer. |
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I'm curious; what do you find "painful" in a ride that is inherently
smoother and by modern engineering and design standards safer and less stressful on the body? NOthing beats you up like rattling around in an old woodie...<g> Tim K "Icono Clast" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1123761151.30473beab218be9886aebdf0ee6c05a8@t eranews... > Timothy Kroesen wrote: > > "Raptor" (at CP) is the best amusement park ride I've ever been > > on. . . . I'm not knocking the 'woodies'; in their day the > > inherent vibration, cacophony and being knocked around made up for > > the lack of present day performance and engineering in other > > ways...<g> > <g> all you like; I find steel-coasters repetitive, boring, and often > painful. There are exceptions, however: Superman: Ride of Steel as > presented at Riverside in New York is . . . well read what follows > the sig. > > If you haven't been [to Cedar Point] you really owe yourself a > > trip; not to mention all the old 'woodies' you can ride in the > > various parks within 100 miles (1.5 hrs drive time) of Cleveland; > > add Cincy into the mix and driving range you'll see we have a > > coaster Mecca here in Ohio! > Yup. I've visited many, perhaps most, maybe all of your parks with > 'coasters. Even managed to get to the Screamin' Eagle and ride both > of the 'coasters in that private place. > __________________________________________________ _________________ > A roller-coaster freak in San Francisco. > < http://geocities.com/dancefest/ >-< http://geocities.com/iconoc/ > > ICQ: < http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19098103 > ---> IClast at SFbay Net > From: Icono Clast > Local: Tues, Jul 3 2001 10:46 pm > Subject: Is it really . . . > Some might recall that, last year, I was at an amusement park where > Superman: Ride of Steel's train spent the day sitting on the lift. I > commented that "it looks as if I'd love it". Some might also recall > that I've often said that no ride that will kill you has ever been, > or ever will be, built. > At Darien Lake I got my first rides on a Superman: Ride of Steel and, > as expected, I loved it. Dorney Park's excellent hyper fell to second > place on my hyper list. But I wondered, looking at Superman: Ride of > Steel last year and riding it this year: Why all the wasted track? > When I got to Riverside I saw Intamin's brilliant revision > of the ride. But I also saw at least four people stuck in it, the train > removed from service and a crew of workers disassemble it to free the > hapless captives. I also actually saw, incidentally, Lake Compounce's > (B)Zoomerang valley the day after Boulderdash tragically killed a > young worker. > I tell non-dancers to visit their local bar to look at the faces of > the tit and ass shakers and then to visit a place where real dancers > congregate to look at their faces for each group's faces convey an > unmistakable message. > The faces of the riders returning to Riverside's Superman: > Ride of Steel station also conveyed an unmistakable message. > On the way up the lift for my first ride during which I learned of > the surprises I didn't know about, a guy in back of me was > improvising a rap: > We're goin' up > A long way up > We're goin' up now > Real high -- wow! > Beyond the crest, however, I heard nothing more of that rap. > What a wonderful, surprise-filled, ride it was! It far exceeded my > expectations in every respect! Fast, smooth, pain-free, comfortable, > and a true thrill ride conforming to the best traditions of the > genre. But how was the back? > After my rear seatmate suggested I lower the bar, he asked "Isn't > that dangerous?" as we were on our way up the lift and I was busily > loosening the belt. "If I'm not here at the end of the ride, yes. If > I am, no." > I was there at the end of the ride, during which I held on > tightly, beaming with joy as here's a steel-coaster with a > thrill-ride quality I knew was possible but expected to never experience. > Riverside's Superman: Ride of Steel is among the very few > 'coasters standing today that delivers equally well in front or back. > On this ride, I think it would make no difference whatsoever where > one sits as the air time is so pervasive and powerful that the rear > delivers on the way up just as the front does on the way down. Brilliant! > I rode it only six times in spite of the two-train waits because I > was straining so hard to keep my legs, needed for dancing that night > in Chicopee, bent that I feared they would get bruised and/or > strained from the great forces and pressures to which they were being > subjected. > The two rides, Darien Lake's and Riverside's, are the only > non-looping 'coasters of which I know that really need the safety > devices they have as I believe each is capable of sending one flying. > Yes, I believe each ride is capable of murder. This belief is > enhanced by: > An object flew from someone toward the front of the train. > Normally such objects rise no higher than the eye-height, perhaps > head-top, of the passengers. This object, at Riverside, rose two, > perhaps three, feet above the riders' heads and hover'd long enough > for me, in the back, to safely pass under it. > At the end of a rear-seat ride, I said to the lovely young > long-hair'd blonde in front of me "I hope your hair's clean; it spent > most of the ride in my mouth." She wittily replied: "Then I hope your > mouth's clean!" > Kudos to Intamin for a brilliant design and the creation of a true > thrill ride. Bravo! > Kudos to Riverside for having it built for us to enjoy. > Congratulations and thank you. > . . . "the best coaster on the planet"? as Riverside claims? Yes, it > probably is! It's a great ride, a true thrill ride, in a class of its > own. > Steel Force > Local: Wed, Jul 4 2001 6:29 am > Subject: Re: Is it really . . . > Icono Clast wrote: > > My rear seatmate suggested I lower the bar, he asked "Isn't that > > dangerous?" as we were on our way up the lift and I was busily > > loosening the belt. "If I'm not here at the end of the ride, yes. > > If I am, no." > once again the ASSHOLE shines! you've not only put yourself in > danger you've taught a innocent "safety system respecting person" the > WRONG thing. > I personally would not doubt that YOU have indeed contributed > DIRECTLY to the injury or DEATH of someone at an amusement park. > GROW UP MORON! > Icono Clast > Local: Tues, Jul 10 2001 3:42 am > Steel Force wrote: > > the WRONG thing. > What wrong thing? How to get out of a ride what the designers put > into it for us to enjoy? How can you know about the innocence of my > seatmate unless you were he? I am NOT a teacher (well, I can show you > the basics of a few dances) and am responsible neither for the > actions of others nor the behaviours of mine they might choose, or be > stupid enough, to emulate. > > I personally would not doubt that YOU have indeed contributed > > DIRECTLY to the injury or DEATH of someone at an amusement park. > If I've committed a crime, charge me! > If I bear some liability, sue me! > > GROW UP MORON! > I recently retired and my mother, born in 1913, told me that since > I've made it this far/long I don't hav'ta grow up. You, however, > appear to have enough maturity for the both of us so you do your > thang and I'll do mine. I do not criticize your failure to enjoy the > wonderful things that designers build into rides for us to enjoy but > don't mind your castigating me for getting more out of rides than you > do. The loss is yours, not mine. Enjoy yourself with me as you > deprive yourself at amusement parks. I'll continue to enjoy myself at > amusement parks and let you continue to believe in your righteousness. > As priests are taught to say, "Do as I say, not as I do". Perhaps > you've failed to notice that I don't tell others what to do. > From: "ChrisCoaster" > Local: Wed, Jul 4 2001 8:55 am > Subject: Re: Is it really . . . > "Icono Clast" wrote: > > The two rides, Darien Lake's and Riverside's, are the only > > non-looping 'coasters of which I know that really need the > > safety devices they have as I believe each is capable of sending > > one flying. Yes, I believe each ride is capable of murder. > That's why SROSs have seatbelts in addition to their lapbars and why > the gentler Nitro doesn't. : ) |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: > > >>I doubt it! (Even Disneyland isn't as much of an "enchanted >>kingdom" as it was when Disney himself was alive.) > > > Disney has been surviving on inertia created by Walt ever since his > death. Nobody has ever really been able to fill his shoes. If only > he had not been a smoker! Then something else would have killed him. (Nobody lives forever, in case that fact had slipped your notice.) ;-) |
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