Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
Apr 5th 2006, 5:14 pm
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:23:50 +0000, nowuno <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>>Airline coffee: a bitter cup, indeed
>>How is it possible to screw up a cup of coffee so badly?
>
> <http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12057042/>.
>
> The nice folks at Coca Cola have saved us all
> *****
> Coke set to launch coffee-cola fusion drink
> <http://atlanta.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2006/03/13/daily21.html?t=printable>
> or <http://tinyurl.com/l7p5z>
> *****
>
>
> Petzl
Launch? They've buried the stores with the stuff. At least there is
enough advertising that I'm properly warned that the stuff is
contaminated with coffee.
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:23:50 +0000, nowuno <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Airline coffee: a bitter cup, indeed
>>How is it possible to screw up a cup of coffee so badly?
>
> <http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12057042/>.
>
> The nice folks at Coca Cola have saved us all
> *****
> Coke set to launch coffee-cola fusion drink
> <http://atlanta.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2006/03/13/daily21.html?t=printable>
> or <http://tinyurl.com/l7p5z>
> *****
>
>
> Petzl
Launch? They've buried the stores with the stuff. At least there is
enough advertising that I'm properly warned that the stuff is
contaminated with coffee.
Apr 6th 2006, 6:49 am
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
In article <[email protected] >, mrtravel
<[email protected]> wrote:
� nowuno wrote:
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� What a load of crap.
�
� Most people make their coffee from tap water.
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Most people think Yuban is great coffee.
<[email protected]> wrote:
� nowuno wrote:
� ******************
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� What a load of crap.
�
� Most people make their coffee from tap water.
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�
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Most people think Yuban is great coffee.
Apr 6th 2006, 6:51 am
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
In article <[email protected]> , mrtravel
<[email protected]> wrote:
� TOliver wrote:
�
� > 2) Coffee or tea, the problem's the same...At pressurized cabin altitudes,
� > 7-8,000, IIRC, the boiling point of water (and airliner water is not quite
� > boiling, has dropped to a temperature which really doesn't do justice to
� > ground coffee, freah and good or old and bad. Nor does it realy invigorate
� > even a "good" teabag.
�
� Does this 13-15 degree (F) difference really matter that much?
yes
� Does the tea know this?
� At 0 feet, the boiling point is 212 degrees
� At 7000 feet, the boiling point is about 199 degrees
� At 8000 feet, it is about 197 degrees
<[email protected]> wrote:
� TOliver wrote:
�
� > 2) Coffee or tea, the problem's the same...At pressurized cabin altitudes,
� > 7-8,000, IIRC, the boiling point of water (and airliner water is not quite
� > boiling, has dropped to a temperature which really doesn't do justice to
� > ground coffee, freah and good or old and bad. Nor does it realy invigorate
� > even a "good" teabag.
�
� Does this 13-15 degree (F) difference really matter that much?
yes
� Does the tea know this?
� At 0 feet, the boiling point is 212 degrees
� At 7000 feet, the boiling point is about 199 degrees
� At 8000 feet, it is about 197 degrees
Apr 30th 2006, 11:11 pm
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
Per nowuno:
> I have several
>theories, all _grounds_ for consideration.
No pun intended, right?
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PeteCresswell
> I have several
>theories, all _grounds_ for consideration.
No pun intended, right?
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PeteCresswell
Apr 30th 2006, 11:36 pm
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
Per mrtravel:
>What a load of crap.
>Most people make their coffee from tap water.
Different locations have different tap water.
For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
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PeteCresswell
>What a load of crap.
>Most people make their coffee from tap water.
Different locations have different tap water.
For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
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PeteCresswell
Apr 30th 2006, 11:53 pm
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
Per SMS:
>I found that carrying something like a JMQ-400 or JMW-500 eminently
>practical when traveling.
...
>I can fill it at
>any coffee house (usually Starbucks when in Asia) and not worry about
>spilling it, or having it get cold before I'm ready to drink it.
Do you have to pre-heat it before adding the coffee? I've use a stainless steel
thermos, but find the coffee comes out lukewarm if I don't fill it with hot
water and let it stand a minute or so before dumping the water and adding the
coffee?
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PeteCresswell
>I found that carrying something like a JMQ-400 or JMW-500 eminently
>practical when traveling.
...
>I can fill it at
>any coffee house (usually Starbucks when in Asia) and not worry about
>spilling it, or having it get cold before I'm ready to drink it.
Do you have to pre-heat it before adding the coffee? I've use a stainless steel
thermos, but find the coffee comes out lukewarm if I don't fill it with hot
water and let it stand a minute or so before dumping the water and adding the
coffee?
--
PeteCresswell
May 1st 2006, 12:49 am
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
"(PeteCresswell)" <[email protected]> writes:
>Per mrtravel:
>>What a load of crap.
>>Most people make their coffee from tap water.
>Different locations have different tap water.
>For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
>coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
Warum?
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>Per mrtravel:
>>What a load of crap.
>>Most people make their coffee from tap water.
>Different locations have different tap water.
>For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
>coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
Warum?
--
/"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia
\ / ASCII ribbon campaign | "Laws do not persuade just because
X against HTML mail | they threaten."
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May 1st 2006, 1:12 am
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
Per Bernd Felsche:
>Warum?
Kalk. The water is so milky you can barely see through it. I tried drinking
it a couple of times and both times somebody practically grabbed the glass out
of my hand.
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PeteCresswell
>Warum?
Kalk. The water is so milky you can barely see through it. I tried drinking
it a couple of times and both times somebody practically grabbed the glass out
of my hand.
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PeteCresswell
May 1st 2006, 3:01 am
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
"(PeteCresswell)" <[email protected]> writes:
>Per Bernd Felsche:
>>Warum?
>Kalk. The water is so milky you can barely see through it. I
Let it stand.
>tried drinking it a couple of times and both times somebody
>practically grabbed the glass out of my hand.
People pay extra for milk with a "supercharge" of calcium.
The minerals in the water are a "value add". Add less milk to your
coffee and it should be OK. :-)
Water treatment is a dirty word in Germany and several other parts
of Europe. In part it's promotion by the bottled-water companies.
In this neck of the woods (suburban Perth), water quality is usually
consistent, but on occassions it has "texture", being milky-white or
even brown.
Some days, even when the water is apparently "clean", it can still
frustrate efforts to make a nice cups of tea or coffee.
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>Per Bernd Felsche:
>>Warum?
>Kalk. The water is so milky you can barely see through it. I
Let it stand.
>tried drinking it a couple of times and both times somebody
>practically grabbed the glass out of my hand.
People pay extra for milk with a "supercharge" of calcium.
The minerals in the water are a "value add". Add less milk to your
coffee and it should be OK. :-)
Water treatment is a dirty word in Germany and several other parts
of Europe. In part it's promotion by the bottled-water companies.
In this neck of the woods (suburban Perth), water quality is usually
consistent, but on occassions it has "texture", being milky-white or
even brown.
Some days, even when the water is apparently "clean", it can still
frustrate efforts to make a nice cups of tea or coffee.
--
/"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia
\ / ASCII ribbon campaign | "Laws do not persuade just because
X against HTML mail | they threaten."
/ \ and postings | Lucius Annaeus Seneca, c. 4BC - 65AD.
May 1st 2006, 3:32 am
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
(missed the original attribution)
> ...
>>I can fill it at
>>any coffee house (usually Starbucks when in Asia)
Ye Gods! The local coffee must really be bad if you have to resort to
Starbucks!
American coffee - blecchh!
> ...
>>I can fill it at
>>any coffee house (usually Starbucks when in Asia)
Ye Gods! The local coffee must really be bad if you have to resort to
Starbucks!
American coffee - blecchh!
May 1st 2006, 5:06 am
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Per mrtravel:
> >What a load of crap.
> >
> >Most people make their coffee from tap water.
> Different locations have different tap water.
> For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
> coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
I use filtered water. You can taste the difference in coffee made with
straight Sacramento County Water District water as opposed to the
making coffee with same after a bit of softening and chlorine removal.
> Per mrtravel:
> >What a load of crap.
> >
> >Most people make their coffee from tap water.
> Different locations have different tap water.
> For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
> coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
I use filtered water. You can taste the difference in coffee made with
straight Sacramento County Water District water as opposed to the
making coffee with same after a bit of softening and chlorine removal.
May 1st 2006, 10:31 pm
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
Curtis CCR wrote:
> (PeteCresswell) wrote:
>
>>Per mrtravel:
>>>What a load of crap.
>>>Most people make their coffee from tap water.
>>Different locations have different tap water.
>>For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
>>coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
>
>
> I use filtered water. You can taste the difference in coffee made with
> straight Sacramento County Water District water as opposed to the
> making coffee with same after a bit of softening and chlorine removal.
>
Try a burr grinder. Makes a much better tasting cup. (Along with the
filtered water, of course.)
> (PeteCresswell) wrote:
>
>>Per mrtravel:
>>>What a load of crap.
>>>Most people make their coffee from tap water.
>>Different locations have different tap water.
>>For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
>>coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
>
>
> I use filtered water. You can taste the difference in coffee made with
> straight Sacramento County Water District water as opposed to the
> making coffee with same after a bit of softening and chlorine removal.
>
Try a burr grinder. Makes a much better tasting cup. (Along with the
filtered water, of course.)
May 1st 2006, 10:42 pm
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Re: Secrets of Bad Airline Coffee - It's All Decaf!
On Mon, 01 May 2006 22:31:53 GMT, TrpGuy <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Curtis CCR wrote:
>> (PeteCresswell) wrote:
>>
>>>Per mrtravel:
>>>>What a load of crap.
>>>>Most people make their coffee from tap water.
>>>Different locations have different tap water.
>>>For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
>>>coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
>>
>>
>> I use filtered water. You can taste the difference in coffee made with
>> straight Sacramento County Water District water as opposed to the
>> making coffee with same after a bit of softening and chlorine removal.
>>
>Try a burr grinder. Makes a much better tasting cup. (Along with the
>filtered water, of course.)
Thank you, Mr. burr.
wrote:
>Curtis CCR wrote:
>> (PeteCresswell) wrote:
>>
>>>Per mrtravel:
>>>>What a load of crap.
>>>>Most people make their coffee from tap water.
>>>Different locations have different tap water.
>>>For instance, nobody in their right mind would even drink - much less make
>>>coffee from - the water in and around Limburg Germany.
>>
>>
>> I use filtered water. You can taste the difference in coffee made with
>> straight Sacramento County Water District water as opposed to the
>> making coffee with same after a bit of softening and chlorine removal.
>>
>Try a burr grinder. Makes a much better tasting cup. (Along with the
>filtered water, of course.)
Thank you, Mr. burr.
