> My trips from the USA to Europe are usually a month in duration. Nearly
any
    > trip you take on Ryan Air will turn into a full day of travel with the bus
    > commutes to and from airports and the plane ride itself. My time is far
too
    > precious for that so I choose to not use Ryan and would rather pay a
higher
    > fare elsewhere. For those who really need to save a few bucks and don't
mind
    > using a full day for travel Ryan is right for you. Depends on your
    > priorities.

Thats definately NOT true - I have taken many weekend trips with Ryanair,
flying out on Saturday morning and back Sunday evening and had plenty of
time in my destination. I wouldn't pay full price to do that but with
Ryanair flights for about 40GBP return its hard to find a reason not to.

(and often the little town they fly to is more interesting than the big city
nearby).

Following up to a.spencer3

    >I don't understand these people who want £1 fares and then bitch because
    >they can't check out their own details.

For me, I didn't want £1 flights, but the better low cost lines
went under because the majority buy on price only, not quality.

I don't see why he cant be more honest about destinations, "let
the buyer beware" isn't my idea of good service.
--
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"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Following up to a.spencer3
    > >I don't understand these people who want £1 fares and then bitch because
    > >they can't check out their own details.
    > For me, I didn't want £1 flights, but the better low cost lines
    > went under because the majority buy on price only, not quality.
    > I don't see why he cant be more honest about destinations, "let
    > the buyer beware" isn't my idea of good service.
    > --
The point I was trying to make was that I've always been aware of the
'funnies' which always seemed to be fairly obvious to me. If you see
'Barcelona (Gerona)' you check!
I've got no axe to grind for Ryanair and - re the other post - I wouldn't
use them for comfort, ease or efficiency (although, frankly, for shortish
flights, I've never had any problem in those directions, either). Maybe I've
just been very fortunate!
But they're what's on the tin and would anyone rather that they were not
available in the first place?

Surreyman

"Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > >
    > > My trips from the USA to Europe are usually a month in duration. Nearly
    > any
    > > trip you take on Ryan Air will turn into a full day of travel with the
bus
    > > commutes to and from airports and the plane ride itself. My time is far
    > too
    > > precious for that so I choose to not use Ryan and would rather pay a
    > higher
    > > fare elsewhere. For those who really need to save a few bucks and don't
    > mind
    > > using a full day for travel Ryan is right for you. Depends on your
    > > priorities.
    > >
    > Thats definately NOT true - I have taken many weekend trips with Ryanair,
    > flying out on Saturday morning and back Sunday evening and had plenty of
    > time in my destination. I wouldn't pay full price to do that but with
    > Ryanair flights for about 40GBP return its hard to find a reason not to.
    > (and often the little town they fly to is more interesting than the big
city
    > nearby).

Miss L Toe,

For most trips it is true but I'm glad Ryan works for you and your
particular travel patterns. Try flying from Frankfurt to Stockholm and most
other non-UK routes.

Ryan

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:30:22 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >>If I ever meet him I shall give him a punch on the nose (after
    >>saying "my name is Padraig Breathnach").
    >Ah. But can you pronounce it?

OK, so have a business card printed up instead....

"Ryan B" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
    > "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > > My trips from the USA to Europe are usually a month in duration.
Nearly
    > > any
    > > > trip you take on Ryan Air will turn into a full day of travel with the
    > bus
    > > > commutes to and from airports and the plane ride itself. My time is
far
    > > too
    > > > precious for that so I choose to not use Ryan and would rather pay a
    > > higher
    > > > fare elsewhere. For those who really need to save a few bucks and
don't
    > > mind
    > > > using a full day for travel Ryan is right for you. Depends on your
    > > > priorities.
    > > >
    > >
    > > Thats definately NOT true - I have taken many weekend trips with
Ryanair,
    > > flying out on Saturday morning and back Sunday evening and had plenty of
    > > time in my destination. I wouldn't pay full price to do that but with
    > > Ryanair flights for about 40GBP return its hard to find a reason not to.
    > >
    > > (and often the little town they fly to is more interesting than the big
    > city
    > > nearby).
    > >
    > >
    > Miss L Toe,
    > For most trips it is true but I'm glad Ryan works for you and your
    > particular travel patterns. Try flying from Frankfurt to Stockholm and
most
    > other non-UK routes.
Is that a problem ? Ryanair have two daily flights in each direction
between Frankfurt-Hahn airport and Stockholm-Skavsta airport. Yes,we know
both are on some distance from respectively cities. F-Hahn being a 1:45
bustrip and Skavsta a 1h trip from the city cores.
Belgium,France and Italy are other nonUK destinations from Stockholm.
I've tried them to Charleroi and from Stansted and was satisfied with
service.
Especially I do appreciate the possibility to fly one-way at a low price.
O.w Ryan to Charleroi was 257SEK to be compared with SAS to Brussels being
an astonishing 8150SEK.
Ryanair faced some problems in Sweden as they originally didn't comply with
market rules (advertised prices must be included tax and fees) but changed
their minds.
So were some problems claiming refunds for lost luggage but I've not seen
any complaints recently nor heard about anyone not being able to find the
right airport.
L.P

Following up to deepblue

    >>>If I ever meet him I shall give him a punch on the nose (after
    >>>saying "my name is Padraig Breathnach").
    >>Ah. But can you pronounce it?
    >OK, so have a business card printed up instead....

Yes! I drop it as I run away. :-)
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to deepblue
    >>>>If I ever meet him I shall give him a punch on the nose (after
    >>>>saying "my name is Padraig Breathnach").
    >>>Ah. But can you pronounce it?
    >>OK, so have a business card printed up instead....
    >Yes! I drop it as I run away. :-)

Then they will know it is an impersonator: I wouldn't run away.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED

"The Reids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Following up to Ryan B
    > >Many people think Ryan Air is an airline but in fact it is a
transportation
    > >company using buses and planes. You will spend more time on the bus
    > >commuting to and from their far out airports than you will on their
planes.
    > >If your time is important Ryan Air may not be your best choice regardless
of
    > >their cheap airfares.
    > and car parks and concessions where they probably make the money.

I heard this idea before but I don't believe it.

At my local airport the connecting bus is run by a private company
and rarely leaves with more than 10 passengers, I doubt it covers its
own running costs without anything left for Molly.

As to the car park, the airport charge RA almost nothing for their
services and the only way that they can be making any money is if
they keep the car park fees for themselves.

tim




    > --
    > Mike Reid
    > "Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
    > Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <--
you can email us@ this site
    > Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a
spamtrap

"Lennart Petersen" wrote
    | Ryanair have two daily flights in each direction between
    | Frankfurt-Hahn airport and Stockholm-Skavsta airport.
    | Yes,we know both are on some distance from respectively
    | cities. F-Hahn being a 1:45 bustrip and Skavsta a 1h trip
    | from the city cores.

A 1h45 bus trip's a bit tedious, but let's remember that Heathrow is an hour
from Charing Cross by Underground, and it's only comparatively recently that
the Heathrow Express has offered a faster alternative.

I would be amused though if any tourists travelled from the airport into
Skavsta and thought that /was/ Stockholm.

Owain

Owain <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Lennart Petersen" wrote
    > | Ryanair have two daily flights in each direction between
    > | Frankfurt-Hahn airport and Stockholm-Skavsta airport.
    > | Yes,we know both are on some distance from respectively
    > | cities. F-Hahn being a 1:45 bustrip and Skavsta a 1h trip
    > | from the city cores.
    >
    > A 1h45 bus trip's a bit tedious, but let's remember that Heathrow is an hour
    > from Charing Cross by Underground, and it's only comparatively recently that
    > the Heathrow Express has offered a faster alternative.

To Charing Cross? I'd much prefer the Picadilly Line to Piccadilly
Circus and changing there, rather than taking the Heathrow Expensive to
Paddington.

However, Frankfurt isn't London, and it's a fast and cheap train trip
from FRA to the centre of that city.

David

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"David Horne" wrote
    | Owain wrote:
    | > A 1h45 bus trip's a bit tedious, but let's remember that Heathrow
    | > is an hour from Charing Cross by Underground, and it's only
    | > comparatively recently that the Heathrow Express has offered
    | > a faster alternative.
    | To Charing Cross? I'd much prefer the Picadilly Line to Piccadilly
    | Circus and changing there, rather than taking the Heathrow Expensive to
    | Paddington.

I mentioned Charing Cross as that's the point distances are traditionally
measured 'from London'.

If one's definition of London is South Ken, then Heathrow is even nearer.

Owain

Owain <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "David Horne" wrote
    > | Owain wrote:
    > | > A 1h45 bus trip's a bit tedious, but let's remember that Heathrow
    > | > is an hour from Charing Cross by Underground, and it's only
    > | > comparatively recently that the Heathrow Express has offered
    > | > a faster alternative.
    > | To Charing Cross? I'd much prefer the Picadilly Line to Piccadilly
    > | Circus and changing there, rather than taking the Heathrow Expensive to
    > | Paddington.
    >
    > I mentioned Charing Cross as that's the point distances are traditionally
    > measured 'from London'.

Yes, I know- I'm just pointing out (because it's worth pointing out,
given the outrageous price of the HeX) that the HeX is only really a
faster alternative to people enroute to Paddington or immediate
environs. Even queuing for a Taxi there for a 'quick' onward journey can
take ages depending on the time of day.

David

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"David Horne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Yes, I know- I'm just pointing out (because it's worth pointing out,
    > given the outrageous price of the HeX) that the HeX is only really a
    > faster alternative to people enroute to Paddington or immediate
    > environs. Even queuing for a Taxi there for a 'quick' onward journey can
    > take ages depending on the time of day.

Since I live at West Drayton, close enough to H'row to watch the planes
taking off from my window (I watch 'em from my window, they don't take off
from it!), I don't use central London to H'row connections, unless I find
Picadilly Line and bus from the airport a better option than train from
Paddington to West Drayton.

I did, however, once try Heathrow Expensive (when they offered a half-price
deal) to see what time asre like - and basically I found no significant time
difference between Oxford Circus and H'row by Bakerloo Line and HeX and by
Bakerloo and Piccadilly lines.

In my view HeX is not worth the much higher fare for any time saving to most
parts of central London.

Alan Harrison

Alan Harrison wrote:
    > "David Horne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:1gd4b8o.15y5hp617xtwnjN%[email protected]...
    >
    >>Yes, I know- I'm just pointing out (because it's worth pointing out,
    >>given the outrageous price of the HeX) that the HeX is only really a
    >>faster alternative to people enroute to Paddington or immediate
    >>environs. Even queuing for a Taxi there for a 'quick' onward journey can
    >>take ages depending on the time of day.
    >
    >
    > Since I live at West Drayton, close enough to H'row to watch the planes
    > taking off from my window (I watch 'em from my window, they don't take off
    > from it!), I don't use central London to H'row connections, unless I find
    > Picadilly Line and bus from the airport a better option than train from
    > Paddington to West Drayton.
    >
    > I did, however, once try Heathrow Expensive (when they offered a half-price
    > deal) to see what time asre like - and basically I found no significant time
    > difference between Oxford Circus and H'row by Bakerloo Line and HeX and by
    > Bakerloo and Piccadilly lines.
    >
    > In my view HeX is not worth the much higher fare for any time saving to most
    > parts of central London.
    >
    > Alan Harrison

Did you try the comparison hauling a couple of pieces of luggage?

The advantage isn't just time saving. Now the comparison to a car
service, even slower but more convenient, goes in the other direction.