> I seem to remember the world via the UN, collecting GBP250 million
    > around 1966 and giving the money to Italy to provide flood defences
    > for Venice. The money disappeared without trace. I will not be
    > donating money to the same cause again.
    > --
    > Martin

Not all all true. The money, a supposed total of the many different
donations made, was primarily given for the restoration of the city after
the floods. Almost all of it went to repair -- some of it still in progress
after all these years -- there was much damage. The money did not disappear,
and such a claim is either foolishly paranoid, or completely misguided ( to
put it kindly).
Much, too, has been done about flood defense -- there is continuous work
( as anyone who wakes up in the morning and finds the street to the
supermarket has been torn up will attest). The big problem -- ever rising
tides and the effect of wind combined with them -- is one that no one thinks
can really be cured: the MOSES project, if it works, will only protect
against catastrophic flooding. The "normal" acqua alta -- and this weekend
was an extreme normal, I'm afraid -- will continue.
If Venice continues to exist -- and it probably will -- it will suffer these
puddles. And as long as nothing is done about global warming, it will get
worse. A long term bet -- which will be the first to go, Florida or Venice?
rjf
rjg

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 14:40:30 GMT, "Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    > ... And as long as nothing is done about global warming, it will get
    >worse. A long term bet -- which will be the first to go, Florida or Venice?

Do we get to choose?
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:02:04 -0800, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:54:42 GMT, "Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Sorry 'bout this. A very unusual weekend.
    >> >
    >> >Associated Press
    >> >VENICE, Italy - Unusually high tides sent sea water sweeping through Venice
    >> >on Sunday, covering 80 percent of the city by afternoon. St. Mark's Square
    >> >and other famous locations were inundated, forcing tourists and residents
    >> >alike to don rubber boots and use elevated walkways.
    >>
    >> Normal spring tides are exceptionally high tides.
    >But for Venice it is the wind/weather combined with the tides that
    >cause the real problem. This is usually is Oct and Nov.

To clarify, the "spring" in "spring tide" has nothing to do with
a season of the year.


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On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:32:08 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:02:04 -0800, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>In article <[email protected]>,
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:54:42 GMT, "Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> >Sorry 'bout this. A very unusual weekend.
    >>> >
    >>> >Associated Press
    >>> >VENICE, Italy - Unusually high tides sent sea water sweeping through Venice
    >>> >on Sunday, covering 80 percent of the city by afternoon. St. Mark's Square
    >>> >and other famous locations were inundated, forcing tourists and residents
    >>> >alike to don rubber boots and use elevated walkways.
    >>>
    >>> Normal spring tides are exceptionally high tides.
    >>But for Venice it is the wind/weather combined with the tides that
    >>cause the real problem. This is usually is Oct and Nov.
    >To clarify, the "spring" in "spring tide" has nothing to do with
    >a season of the year.

I assumed this was common knowledge :-)

It was just after full moon on Sunday and therefore a spring tide
time.

--
Martin

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 18:38:18 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :


... >To clarify, the "spring" in "spring tide" has nothing to do with
... >a season of the year.
...
... I assumed this was common knowledge :-)
...
... It was just after full moon on Sunday and therefore a spring tide
... time.

I was wondering if Venice had moved to the South Hemisphere.

"B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 14:40:30 GMT, "Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > > ... And as long as nothing is done about global warming, it will get
    > >worse. A long term bet -- which will be the first to go, Florida or
Venice?
    > Do we get to choose?
I have lived in both, and I know how I would choose.

Ironically, we may get to. As the water comes up, many places all over the
world will be threatened. No country will be willing, or can afford, to help
countries other than their own. The U.S. will choose Florida, Italy will
choose -- we'll see.
Lost in the political arguments in the U.S. and otherwheres, the globe IS
warming and the water IS rising.
Whether the problem is manufacturing, or cars, or Mother Nature, it looks
very much as tho it will happen-- maybe in the lifetime of many alive now. O
Tempora O goddam Mores.
Goodbye Miami, goodbye Lauderdale,
Fetch me a bucket, fetch me a pail,
Goodbye Miami, goodbye Sarasota,
The Gulf coast has reached Pierre, South Dakota,
And Key West ain't Key West no more. ( excerpt, Jay Leonhart)
rjf

<< I seem to remember the world via the UN, collecting GBP250 million around
1966 and giving the money to Italy to provide flood defences for Venice. >>

Wasn't that collection back in the mid-sixties for the devasting flooding of
the Arno that hit Florence? That money was used for its purpose.

"Steltzjr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > << I seem to remember the world via the UN, collecting GBP250 million
    > around
    > 1966 and giving the money to Italy to provide flood defences for
    > Venice. >>
    > Wasn't that collection back in the mid-sixties for the devasting
    > flooding of
    > the Arno that hit Florence? That money was used for its purpose.
Correct! People all around the world donated huge amounts to save the
art treasures of Florence during and after the floods of November, 1966.
Hundreds of people -- art students and others -- went and worked there
for weeks, living in sleeping bags in homes and public buildings, and
eating whatever they could find.