Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

Jason Dunsmore <[email protected]> wrote in
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    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...urail-plan.png

Much better, I can breathe again. Give Paris at least 3 days on the
ground, Brussels is worth a day stop. Brugge is worth a deviation,
Antwerp a stop and Amsterdam a day or two at the least. Switzerland is
expensive but the scenery is not to be found elsewhere take your time
there. I am not big on Germany so I can't comment there.

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Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

"Jason Dunsmore" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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    > "Simone" <[email protected]> writes:
    >> Now... Even on an ambitious plan, why don't you just stick to London,
    >> Edinburgh, Amsterdam and Paris? You still will not be able to see all
    >> the major sights in London and Paris. Or, skip Edinburgh and like
    >> someone else posted add in Munich (since you seem intent on seeing as
    >> many major cities as is possible). If it were me, and those cities were
    >> my choices: London, Amsterdam and Paris. Period.
    > thanks for the recommendations. i've been to munich before, and i've
    > decided to save the UK for my next trip. i think i'd like to see
    > frankfurt though.
    > here's the latest (hopefully final) version of the map:
    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...urail-plan.png
    > i'll go to frankfurt, amsterdam, paris, and bern.
    > jason
AFAIK U.K isn't included in Eurail so you don't have much advantage of that
for Edinburgh.
Nor is it valid for the Eurostar train London-Paris/Brussels but you've a
discount.
Your travel plan seem to be now so limited so I doubt Eurail pays back at
all, possibly you're fine with ordinary point to point tickets ?

Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

"Jason Dunsmore" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > thanks for the recommendations. i've been to munich before,
    > and i've decided to save the UK for my next trip. i think i'd like
    > to see frankfurt though.
    > here's the latest (hopefully final) version of the map:
    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...urail-plan.png
    > i'll go to frankfurt, amsterdam, paris, and bern.

Now, I'm concerned that you're spending too much time in
one place. I'd use these as bases for a few side trips. =R=

Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> writes:
    > AFAIK U.K isn't included in Eurail so you don't have much advantage of that
    > for Edinburgh.
    > Nor is it valid for the Eurostar train London-Paris/Brussels but you've a
    > discount.
    > Your travel plan seem to be now so limited so I doubt Eurail pays back at
    > all, possibly you're fine with ordinary point to point tickets ?

if i have time to spare, i'll visit salzburg or regensburg, or small
towns along the way.

i don't think point-to-point tickets would've been cheaper. frankfurt
to amsterdam alone is $236.

jason

Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

jcoulter <[email protected]> writes:
    > Much better, I can breathe again. Give Paris at least 3 days on the
    > ground, Brussels is worth a day stop. Brugge is worth a deviation,
    > Antwerp a stop and Amsterdam a day or two at the least. Switzerland is
    > expensive but the scenery is not to be found elsewhere take your time
    > there. I am not big on Germany so I can't comment there.
thanks. i hadn't considered brugge or antwerp.

Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:44:46 GMT, Jason Dunsmore
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >i'll go to frankfurt, amsterdam, paris, and bern.

That's a bit bizzare. Bern is pretty, and I liked it, but Frankfurt?
It was hammered in the war, and much of it's modern banking buildings
now. Certainly not worth going out of your way for from a tourist
standpoint.
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Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

    >> i'm from the US, so i don't have much of a concept of how long it will
    >> take to travel that distance in europe. (i'm guessing my route is a
    >> little overly ambitious.)
    > No doubt. Think of European countries like medium-to-large-sized American
    > states. Its like saying "I'll do Missouri on Monday, Illinois on Tuesday,
    > Kentucky on Wednesday...", etc.

I remember overhearing a conversation between some Americans at a MUnich Bus
stop on a lazy Sunday afteroon.
'Well tommorow I'm doing Berlin, Tuesdat Prague, Wednesday Amsterdam,
Thursday Paris, Friday Edinburgh and London Saturday, I might stay 2 days in
London, will that be too long. I hope she enoyed her tour of Yerpean airport
departure lounges..

Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

    >> Now... Even on an ambitious plan, why don't you just stick to London,
    >> Edinburgh, Amsterdam and Paris? You still will not be able to see all
    >> the major sights in London and Paris. Or, skip Edinburgh and like
    >> someone else posted add in Munich (since you seem intent on seeing as
    >> many major cities as is possible). If it were me, and those cities were
    >> my choices: London, Amsterdam and Paris. Period.
    > thanks for the recommendations. i've been to munich before, and i've
    > decided to save the UK for my next trip. i think i'd like to see
    > frankfurt though.

I wouldn't bother with Frankfurt. It is certainly a pleasant city, but not
much to see from a tourists perspective. try somewhere like Rothenburg, or
Nurenburg or Wurtzburg.

Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:14:22 +0100, "Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >>> i'm from the US, so i don't have much of a concept of how long it will
    >>> take to travel that distance in europe. (i'm guessing my route is a
    >>> little overly ambitious.)
    >> No doubt. Think of European countries like medium-to-large-sized American
    >> states. Its like saying "I'll do Missouri on Monday, Illinois on Tuesday,
    >> Kentucky on Wednesday...", etc.
    >I remember overhearing a conversation between some Americans at a MUnich Bus
    >stop on a lazy Sunday afteroon.
    >'Well tommorow I'm doing Berlin, Tuesdat Prague, Wednesday Amsterdam,
    >Thursday Paris, Friday Edinburgh and London Saturday, I might stay 2 days in
    >London, will that be too long. I hope she enoyed her tour of Yerpean airport
    >departure lounges..

"Did you enjoy your vacation in Europe, Wilbur?"

"Dunno - haven't got the pictures back yet"



Keith, Bristol, UK

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Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

Jason Dunsmore <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> writes:
    >> AFAIK U.K isn't included in Eurail so you don't have much advantage
    >> of that for Edinburgh.
    >> Nor is it valid for the Eurostar train London-Paris/Brussels but
    >> you've a discount.
    >> Your travel plan seem to be now so limited so I doubt Eurail pays
    >> back at all, possibly you're fine with ordinary point to point
    >> tickets ?
    >
    > if i have time to spare, i'll visit salzburg or regensburg, or small
    > towns along the way.
    >
    > i don't think point-to-point tickets would've been cheaper. frankfurt
    > to amsterdam alone is $236.
    >
    > jason

Use the German rail page to figure point to point not Rail Europe. RE
inflates the fares and makes their passes look better.

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Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

"Jason Dunsmore" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
    > "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> writes:
    >> AFAIK U.K isn't included in Eurail so you don't have much advantage of
    >> that
    >> for Edinburgh.
    >> Nor is it valid for the Eurostar train London-Paris/Brussels but you've a
    >> discount.
    >> Your travel plan seem to be now so limited so I doubt Eurail pays back at
    >> all, possibly you're fine with ordinary point to point tickets ?
    > if i have time to spare, i'll visit salzburg or regensburg, or small
    > towns along the way.
    > i don't think point-to-point tickets would've been cheaper. frankfurt
    > to amsterdam alone is $236.
    > jason
--------------------
From where have you got that price?
Don't say you've studied the Eurail prices ?
The advertised ordinary price for Frankfurt-Amsterdam is Euro 94:80 ICE 2cl
but there are many reductions available with advance reservations.

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"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:44:46 GMT, Jason Dunsmore
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>i'll go to frankfurt, amsterdam, paris, and bern.
    > That's a bit bizzare. Bern is pretty, and I liked it, but Frankfurt?
    > It was hammered in the war, and much of it's modern banking buildings
    > now. Certainly not worth going out of your way for from a tourist
    > standpoint.
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Can't but agree. Today's Frankfurt have got the nickname Bankfurt or
Frankhattan because of the many bank skyscraper. Basepoint for excursions
maybe, as there're excellent communications but otherwise Frankfurt isn't
the place to stay.
In my opinion the charming and much more interesting Mainz could be the
place to stay for one or another night.

Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

Deep Foiled Malls wrote:
    > On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:37:13 GMT, Jason Dunsmore
[snip]
    > It's like this. Here in r.t.e. once or twice a week an American on a
    > tight, tight supertight schedule wants to 'do' Europe in as little
    > time as possible so he/she can go home and say they have travelled the
    > world.
[snip]

It's a variation on the european who wants to come to the US
and visit NY, Disney, Dallas, Denver, and LA with a side trip to
San Fran, in a car, in 3 weeks.

Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:


    > Deep Foiled Malls wrote:
    >> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:37:13 GMT, Jason Dunsmore
    > [snip]
    >> It's like this. Here in r.t.e. once or twice a week an American on a
    >> tight, tight supertight schedule wants to 'do' Europe in as little
    >> time as possible so he/she can go home and say they have travelled the
    >> world.
    > [snip]

    > It's a variation on the european who wants to come to the US
    > and visit NY, Disney, Dallas, Denver, and LA with a side trip to
    > San Fran, in a car, in 3 weeks.

You forgot the Grand Canyon.

Julie

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Re: recommendations for a two week trip to europe
 

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:

    > Deep Foiled Malls wrote:
    > > On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:37:13 GMT, Jason Dunsmore
    > [snip]
    > > It's like this. Here in r.t.e. once or twice a week an American on a
    > > tight, tight supertight schedule wants to 'do' Europe in as little
    > > time as possible so he/she can go home and say they have travelled the
    > > world.
    > [snip]
    >
    > It's a variation on the european who wants to come to the US
    > and visit NY, Disney, Dallas, Denver, and LA with a side trip to
    > San Fran, in a car, in 3 weeks.

Hmm. Can I swap Dallas for Chicago and Denver for Miami? And is
Cananananada on the way?

Des