question to Ryanair users
Mar 16th 2007 | 8:35 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>and you do a "no-show"
>at departure,
>is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
Cancelled. I believe all airlines do this.
>( would it be possible then to book another one way to go 2 days later
>to destination and then use the remaining return ? )
>
>If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
more expensive than a return flight. Except on Ryanair which has
cheap one-way flights.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>and you do a "no-show"
>at departure,
>is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
Cancelled. I believe all airlines do this.
>( would it be possible then to book another one way to go 2 days later
>to destination and then use the remaining return ? )
>
>If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
more expensive than a return flight. Except on Ryanair which has
cheap one-way flights.
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Mar 16th 2007 | 8:42 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >when you book a return flight on Ryanair
> >and you do a "no-show"
> >at departure,
> >is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>
> Cancelled.
How do you know? Sounds like your basing the assumption on what
'traditional' carriers have done. Unless you've asked them, and got it
in writing, I wouldn't assume either way. It doesn't appear to be
mentioned in their terms and conditions...
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> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >when you book a return flight on Ryanair
> >and you do a "no-show"
> >at departure,
> >is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>
> Cancelled.
How do you know? Sounds like your basing the assumption on what
'traditional' carriers have done. Unless you've asked them, and got it
in writing, I wouldn't assume either way. It doesn't appear to be
mentioned in their terms and conditions...
--
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Mar 16th 2007 | 8:44 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>>and you do a "no-show"
>>at departure,
>>is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>
> Cancelled. I believe all airlines do this.
>
>>( would it be possible then to book another one way to go 2 days later
>>to destination and then use the remaining return ? )
>>
>>If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>
> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
> more expensive than a return flight. Except on Ryanair which has
> cheap one-way flights.
--------------
Most ,if not all , low-price carriers now operates with one-way tickets
only.
SAS as one of few (?) IATA carriers also operates with one-way tickets, a
r.t is always the result of two one-way tickets.
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> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>>and you do a "no-show"
>>at departure,
>>is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>
> Cancelled. I believe all airlines do this.
>
>>( would it be possible then to book another one way to go 2 days later
>>to destination and then use the remaining return ? )
>>
>>If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>
> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
> more expensive than a return flight. Except on Ryanair which has
> cheap one-way flights.
--------------
Most ,if not all , low-price carriers now operates with one-way tickets
only.
SAS as one of few (?) IATA carriers also operates with one-way tickets, a
r.t is always the result of two one-way tickets.
Mar 16th 2007 | 8:48 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
On Mar 16, 3:35 pm, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>
> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
> more expensive than a return flight.
>From the point of view of the airlines, it's not paradoxical. Regular
airlines often discount round trip flights, but virtually never
discount one-way flights. The reason for this is that they have a lot
of restrictions on cheap fares that are intended to ensure that they
are used primarily by leisure travelers (many of whom would just not
take the flight if the cost was much higher, who can often book well
in advance, and who are usually somewhat flexible on dates and times),
and not by business travelers, who are generally willing to pay much
higher prices - so airlines require advance purchase, saturday night
stopovers, midweek departures, etc. for the cheapest fares. Allowing
cheap one-ways would let business travelers get around all of the
restrictions rather than paying loads of money for last-minute tickets
at specific times.
The low-cost airlines are helping to break down that pricing model
when it comes to flights within Europe or within the US, but it still
applies to a large extent to intercontinental flights.
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>
> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
> more expensive than a return flight.
>From the point of view of the airlines, it's not paradoxical. Regular
airlines often discount round trip flights, but virtually never
discount one-way flights. The reason for this is that they have a lot
of restrictions on cheap fares that are intended to ensure that they
are used primarily by leisure travelers (many of whom would just not
take the flight if the cost was much higher, who can often book well
in advance, and who are usually somewhat flexible on dates and times),
and not by business travelers, who are generally willing to pay much
higher prices - so airlines require advance purchase, saturday night
stopovers, midweek departures, etc. for the cheapest fares. Allowing
cheap one-ways would let business travelers get around all of the
restrictions rather than paying loads of money for last-minute tickets
at specific times.
The low-cost airlines are helping to break down that pricing model
when it comes to flights within Europe or within the US, but it still
applies to a large extent to intercontinental flights.
Mar 16th 2007 | 9:08 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
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>
> "Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>>>and you do a "no-show"
>>>at departure,
>>>is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>>
>> Cancelled. I believe all airlines do this.
>>
>>>( would it be possible then to book another one way to go 2 days later
>>>to destination and then use the remaining return ? )
>>>
>>>If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>>
>> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
>> more expensive than a return flight. Except on Ryanair which has
>> cheap one-way flights.
> --------------
> Most ,if not all , low-price carriers now operates with one-way tickets
> only.
> SAS as one of few (?) IATA carriers also operates with one-way tickets, a
> r.t is always the result of two one-way tickets.
Many Eastern European airlines have followed this policy for decades. Even
in their intercontinental routes (this is why Aeroflot, Malev, CSA and so on
had been so popular in Asian routes: fares were attractive and the network
extensive between Europe and Asia). Most "conventional" or "full service"
airlines follow this scheme in short and medium range flights nowadays. I
believe that we shall see this more and more in intercontinental flights
too. Flying will resemble more and more train and coach travelling: two way
tickets will be a bit cheaper than two one way tickets or then not.
viestissä:[email protected].. .
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>
> "Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>>>and you do a "no-show"
>>>at departure,
>>>is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>>
>> Cancelled. I believe all airlines do this.
>>
>>>( would it be possible then to book another one way to go 2 days later
>>>to destination and then use the remaining return ? )
>>>
>>>If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>>
>> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
>> more expensive than a return flight. Except on Ryanair which has
>> cheap one-way flights.
> --------------
> Most ,if not all , low-price carriers now operates with one-way tickets
> only.
> SAS as one of few (?) IATA carriers also operates with one-way tickets, a
> r.t is always the result of two one-way tickets.
Many Eastern European airlines have followed this policy for decades. Even
in their intercontinental routes (this is why Aeroflot, Malev, CSA and so on
had been so popular in Asian routes: fares were attractive and the network
extensive between Europe and Asia). Most "conventional" or "full service"
airlines follow this scheme in short and medium range flights nowadays. I
believe that we shall see this more and more in intercontinental flights
too. Flying will resemble more and more train and coach travelling: two way
tickets will be a bit cheaper than two one way tickets or then not.
Mar 16th 2007 | 10:10 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> > In the case of BA for example, if you don't use the outbound leg they
> > will cancel your return leg unless you specifically call them to
> > confirm your return flight.
> ----------------
> Not using the outbound ticket means simply the whole ticket is invalid.
> From BA ticket conditions :
Fair enough - I was just repeating what a BA agent told me when I showed
up for a return having missed my outbound flight.
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> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> > In the case of BA for example, if you don't use the outbound leg they
> > will cancel your return leg unless you specifically call them to
> > confirm your return flight.
> ----------------
> Not using the outbound ticket means simply the whole ticket is invalid.
> From BA ticket conditions :
Fair enough - I was just repeating what a BA agent told me when I showed
up for a return having missed my outbound flight.
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Mar 16th 2007 | 10:17 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:42:09 +0100, [email protected] (David
Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>> >and you do a "no-show"
>> >at departure,
>> >is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>>
>> Cancelled.
>
>How do you know? Sounds like your basing the assumption on what
>'traditional' carriers have done. Unless you've asked them, and got it
>in writing, I wouldn't assume either way. It doesn't appear to be
>mentioned in their terms and conditions...
You're right.
Since Ryanair sells even RTs as separate flights, I'm not sure
why it would matter. Kind of dumb to pay for an outbound and
return leg when you can buy the return leg all by itself for the
same price.
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Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>> >and you do a "no-show"
>> >at departure,
>> >is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>>
>> Cancelled.
>
>How do you know? Sounds like your basing the assumption on what
>'traditional' carriers have done. Unless you've asked them, and got it
>in writing, I wouldn't assume either way. It doesn't appear to be
>mentioned in their terms and conditions...
You're right.
Since Ryanair sells even RTs as separate flights, I'm not sure
why it would matter. Kind of dumb to pay for an outbound and
return leg when you can buy the return leg all by itself for the
same price.
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Mar 16th 2007 | 10:18 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:44:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>>>and you do a "no-show"
>>>at departure,
>>>is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>>
>> Cancelled. I believe all airlines do this.
>>
>>>( would it be possible then to book another one way to go 2 days later
>>>to destination and then use the remaining return ? )
>>>
>>>If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>>
>> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
>> more expensive than a return flight. Except on Ryanair which has
>> cheap one-way flights.
>--------------
>Most ,if not all , low-price carriers now operates with one-way tickets
>only.
As does Southwest, a US domestic carrier.
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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>when you book a return flight on Ryanair
>>>and you do a "no-show"
>>>at departure,
>>>is the return flight cancelled or still usable ?
>>
>> Cancelled. I believe all airlines do this.
>>
>>>( would it be possible then to book another one way to go 2 days later
>>>to destination and then use the remaining return ? )
>>>
>>>If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>>
>> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
>> more expensive than a return flight. Except on Ryanair which has
>> cheap one-way flights.
>--------------
>Most ,if not all , low-price carriers now operates with one-way tickets
>only.
As does Southwest, a US domestic carrier.
--
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Mar 16th 2007 | 10:20 am
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Re: question to Ryanair users
On 16 Mar 2007 13:48:40 -0700, "Iceman" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Mar 16, 3:35 pm, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>>
>> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
>> more expensive than a return flight.
>
>
>>From the point of view of the airlines, it's not paradoxical.
I'm not an airline; I'm a customer.
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wrote:
>On Mar 16, 3:35 pm, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:14:39 +0100, "trallala"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >If not, would it not be more flexible to book only one way flights ?
>>
>> Unfortunately, and paradoxically, that would probably be a lot
>> more expensive than a return flight.
>
>
>>From the point of view of the airlines, it's not paradoxical.
I'm not an airline; I'm a customer.
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Mar 16th 2007 | 1:45 pm
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Re: question to Ryanair users
"Mister Bartlett" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>
>> > In the case of BA for example, if you don't use the outbound leg they
>> > will cancel your return leg unless you specifically call them to
>> > confirm your return flight.
>> ----------------
>> Not using the outbound ticket means simply the whole ticket is invalid.
>> From BA ticket conditions :
>
> Fair enough - I was just repeating what a BA agent told me when I showed
> up for a return having missed my outbound flight.
>
> B;
Possibly they can do so for mercy assuming you can provide a good reason for
missing a leg. You can't rely on it but sometimes the airlines can
provide real good service.
news:1hv3ca7.19lrgvp2zlwncN%[email protected]...
> Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>
>> > In the case of BA for example, if you don't use the outbound leg they
>> > will cancel your return leg unless you specifically call them to
>> > confirm your return flight.
>> ----------------
>> Not using the outbound ticket means simply the whole ticket is invalid.
>> From BA ticket conditions :
>
> Fair enough - I was just repeating what a BA agent told me when I showed
> up for a return having missed my outbound flight.
>
> B;
Possibly they can do so for mercy assuming you can provide a good reason for
missing a leg. You can't rely on it but sometimes the airlines can
provide real good service.
