Question on the Crowds in Rome
Apr 6th 2005 | 11:31 am
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Question on the Crowds in Rome
Where do these millions of people on the streets find
toilets? Or do they?
toilets? Or do they?
Apr 6th 2005 | 11:41 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
On 06 Apr 2005 23:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Moore) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>>toilets? Or do they?
>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/in...rtner=homepage
>The line to the basilica had grown so big that it split in two - one curving
>through the narrow streets of Vatican City and a second along the Tiber River
> - amid much strain and a striking mix of the spiritual and the physical:
>There were songs and prayers and much patience, as well as fatigue, sunburn
>and borderline bad behavior.
>"They have called me mean, they say I have no pity," said Mariana Santoliquido,
>27, who works in a cafe at about the point where people waited in line for 10
>hours. She was yelled at because the cafe stopped letting pilgrims use the
>bathroom, though she said so many used it the day before the toilet actually
>ripped off its bolts in the floor.
>The abuse was so bad, she said, the cafe was forced to hire a bodyguard.
>"The ugly thing about all this is that the nature of the crowd is so different
>from what they are here for," she said.
Oh dear me. Not even "toilet is for use of customers only?"
The crowds are just so massive and I wondered what kind of relief
is provided for, if any.
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>>toilets? Or do they?
>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/in...rtner=homepage
>The line to the basilica had grown so big that it split in two - one curving
>through the narrow streets of Vatican City and a second along the Tiber River
> - amid much strain and a striking mix of the spiritual and the physical:
>There were songs and prayers and much patience, as well as fatigue, sunburn
>and borderline bad behavior.
>"They have called me mean, they say I have no pity," said Mariana Santoliquido,
>27, who works in a cafe at about the point where people waited in line for 10
>hours. She was yelled at because the cafe stopped letting pilgrims use the
>bathroom, though she said so many used it the day before the toilet actually
>ripped off its bolts in the floor.
>The abuse was so bad, she said, the cafe was forced to hire a bodyguard.
>"The ugly thing about all this is that the nature of the crowd is so different
>from what they are here for," she said.
Oh dear me. Not even "toilet is for use of customers only?"
The crowds are just so massive and I wondered what kind of relief
is provided for, if any.
Apr 6th 2005 | 11:43 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
In article <[email protected]>,
Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>toilets? Or do they?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/in...rtner=homepage
The line to the basilica had grown so big that it split in two - one curving
through the narrow streets of Vatican City and a second along the Tiber River
- amid much strain and a striking mix of the spiritual and the physical:
There were songs and prayers and much patience, as well as fatigue, sunburn
and borderline bad behavior.
"They have called me mean, they say I have no pity," said Mariana Santoliquido,
27, who works in a cafe at about the point where people waited in line for 10
hours. She was yelled at because the cafe stopped letting pilgrims use the
bathroom, though she said so many used it the day before the toilet actually
ripped off its bolts in the floor.
The abuse was so bad, she said, the cafe was forced to hire a bodyguard.
"The ugly thing about all this is that the nature of the crowd is so different
from what they are here for," she said.
Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>toilets? Or do they?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/in...rtner=homepage
The line to the basilica had grown so big that it split in two - one curving
through the narrow streets of Vatican City and a second along the Tiber River
- amid much strain and a striking mix of the spiritual and the physical:
There were songs and prayers and much patience, as well as fatigue, sunburn
and borderline bad behavior.
"They have called me mean, they say I have no pity," said Mariana Santoliquido,
27, who works in a cafe at about the point where people waited in line for 10
hours. She was yelled at because the cafe stopped letting pilgrims use the
bathroom, though she said so many used it the day before the toilet actually
ripped off its bolts in the floor.
The abuse was so bad, she said, the cafe was forced to hire a bodyguard.
"The ugly thing about all this is that the nature of the crowd is so different
from what they are here for," she said.
Apr 6th 2005 | 11:51 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:31:23 GMT, Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>toilets? Or do they?
S.P.Q.R.
>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>toilets? Or do they?
S.P.Q.R.
Apr 6th 2005 | 8:50 pm
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
"Rita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 06 Apr 2005 23:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Moore) wrote:
> Oh dear me. Not even "toilet is for use of customers only?"
Many years ago, when I first went to Rome, guidebooks said there were few
public lavatories but that bars and restaurants were obliged to make their
lavatories available, but I don't think the legislation envisaged a million
people queueing up to see the late Pope.
> The crowds are just so massive and I wondered what kind of relief
> is provided for, if any.
I should imagine that Portaloos could be provided, but the task of emptying
the things would be gargantuan.
Alan Harrison
news:[email protected]...
> On 06 Apr 2005 23:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Moore) wrote:
> Oh dear me. Not even "toilet is for use of customers only?"
Many years ago, when I first went to Rome, guidebooks said there were few
public lavatories but that bars and restaurants were obliged to make their
lavatories available, but I don't think the legislation envisaged a million
people queueing up to see the late Pope.
> The crowds are just so massive and I wondered what kind of relief
> is provided for, if any.
I should imagine that Portaloos could be provided, but the task of emptying
the things would be gargantuan.
Alan Harrison
Apr 6th 2005 | 10:15 pm
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:50:15 +0000 (UTC), "ALAN HARRISON"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Rita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On 06 Apr 2005 23:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Moore) wrote:
>> Oh dear me. Not even "toilet is for use of customers only?"
>Many years ago, when I first went to Rome, guidebooks said there were few
>public lavatories but that bars and restaurants were obliged to make their
>lavatories available, but I don't think the legislation envisaged a million
>people queueing up to see the late Pope.
>> The crowds are just so massive and I wondered what kind of relief
>> is provided for, if any.
>I should imagine that Portaloos could be provided, but the task of emptying
>the things would be gargantuan.
>Alan Harrison
Possibly relying on a reverse version of the loaves and
fishes?
I think I'd watch carefully where I stepped, particularly
when stepping from the kerb across any gutters.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Rita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On 06 Apr 2005 23:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Moore) wrote:
>> Oh dear me. Not even "toilet is for use of customers only?"
>Many years ago, when I first went to Rome, guidebooks said there were few
>public lavatories but that bars and restaurants were obliged to make their
>lavatories available, but I don't think the legislation envisaged a million
>people queueing up to see the late Pope.
>> The crowds are just so massive and I wondered what kind of relief
>> is provided for, if any.
>I should imagine that Portaloos could be provided, but the task of emptying
>the things would be gargantuan.
>Alan Harrison
Possibly relying on a reverse version of the loaves and
fishes?
I think I'd watch carefully where I stepped, particularly
when stepping from the kerb across any gutters.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
Apr 6th 2005 | 11:19 pm
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
"irwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:31:23 GMT, Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>>toilets? Or do they?
> S.P.Q.R.
Sono Porci Questi Romani?
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:31:23 GMT, Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>>toilets? Or do they?
> S.P.Q.R.
Sono Porci Questi Romani?
Apr 7th 2005 | 12:49 am
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"Rita" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Where do these millions of people on the streets find
> toilets? Or do they?
Italian Protezione Civile managed to put nearby the queues loads of Chemical
Toilets.
I saw them starting to work like bees just 10 minutes after the pope's
death.
They did a great work, but this last "rush-day" they were not enough.
So the piligirms started to assault toilets in bars and shops.
I'm roman, i went to say goodbye to the pope on monday night. I managed to
do that in 5 hours and a half.
Great organization. We had plenty of water and juices, and toilets were
easily reachable. At night they distributed us blankets.
They managed to install in few hours hundreds of toilets, dozen of camp
hospitals, points of free distribution of hot beverages, juices, water and
blankets.
More than this, Italian Protezione Civile and Red Cross, managed to organize
2 big sleeping areas, with brand-new mattress, beds, blankets and sheets.
Security will watch for personal belongings that people will leave in these
centers.
Other big areas in the countryside are fully organized to accept people that
will come with their own camping tents.
In sll the main squares have been placed big-screens to view the interior of
the basilica, the queue, and on friday they'll transmit the funeral service
too.
Only on the last day they started to have some problems, because of the
immense amount of people.
news:[email protected]...
> Where do these millions of people on the streets find
> toilets? Or do they?
Italian Protezione Civile managed to put nearby the queues loads of Chemical
Toilets.
I saw them starting to work like bees just 10 minutes after the pope's
death.
They did a great work, but this last "rush-day" they were not enough.
So the piligirms started to assault toilets in bars and shops.
I'm roman, i went to say goodbye to the pope on monday night. I managed to
do that in 5 hours and a half.
Great organization. We had plenty of water and juices, and toilets were
easily reachable. At night they distributed us blankets.
They managed to install in few hours hundreds of toilets, dozen of camp
hospitals, points of free distribution of hot beverages, juices, water and
blankets.
More than this, Italian Protezione Civile and Red Cross, managed to organize
2 big sleeping areas, with brand-new mattress, beds, blankets and sheets.
Security will watch for personal belongings that people will leave in these
centers.
Other big areas in the countryside are fully organized to accept people that
will come with their own camping tents.
In sll the main squares have been placed big-screens to view the interior of
the basilica, the queue, and on friday they'll transmit the funeral service
too.
Only on the last day they started to have some problems, because of the
immense amount of people.
Apr 7th 2005 | 1:27 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:31:23 GMT, Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>toilets? Or do they?
The same place as in cathedrals?
>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>toilets? Or do they?
The same place as in cathedrals?
Apr 7th 2005 | 1:27 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:41:57 GMT, Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 06 Apr 2005 23:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Moore) wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>>>toilets? Or do they?
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/in...rtner=homepage
>>The line to the basilica had grown so big that it split in two - one curving
>>through the narrow streets of Vatican City and a second along the Tiber River
>> - amid much strain and a striking mix of the spiritual and the physical:
>>There were songs and prayers and much patience, as well as fatigue, sunburn
>>and borderline bad behavior.
>>"They have called me mean, they say I have no pity," said Mariana Santoliquido,
>>27, who works in a cafe at about the point where people waited in line for 10
>>hours. She was yelled at because the cafe stopped letting pilgrims use the
>>bathroom, though she said so many used it the day before the toilet actually
>>ripped off its bolts in the floor.
>>The abuse was so bad, she said, the cafe was forced to hire a bodyguard.
>>"The ugly thing about all this is that the nature of the crowd is so different
>>from what they are here for," she said.
>Oh dear me. Not even "toilet is for use of customers only?"
>The crowds are just so massive and I wondered what kind of relief
>is provided for, if any.
What are holy water stoops for?
>On 06 Apr 2005 23:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Moore) wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>Rita <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>>>toilets? Or do they?
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/in...rtner=homepage
>>The line to the basilica had grown so big that it split in two - one curving
>>through the narrow streets of Vatican City and a second along the Tiber River
>> - amid much strain and a striking mix of the spiritual and the physical:
>>There were songs and prayers and much patience, as well as fatigue, sunburn
>>and borderline bad behavior.
>>"They have called me mean, they say I have no pity," said Mariana Santoliquido,
>>27, who works in a cafe at about the point where people waited in line for 10
>>hours. She was yelled at because the cafe stopped letting pilgrims use the
>>bathroom, though she said so many used it the day before the toilet actually
>>ripped off its bolts in the floor.
>>The abuse was so bad, she said, the cafe was forced to hire a bodyguard.
>>"The ugly thing about all this is that the nature of the crowd is so different
>>from what they are here for," she said.
>Oh dear me. Not even "toilet is for use of customers only?"
>The crowds are just so massive and I wondered what kind of relief
>is provided for, if any.
What are holy water stoops for?
Apr 7th 2005 | 3:06 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
When would one expect the crowds to be generally gone? Once a new pope
is elected, will crowds be there to see him, or can we expect to play
tourist without the crowds when we arrive for vacation about May 1st
(sassuming the elections are over by then?
is elected, will crowds be there to see him, or can we expect to play
tourist without the crowds when we arrive for vacation about May 1st
(sassuming the elections are over by then?
Apr 7th 2005 | 3:20 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
"Romeo Raabe" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> When would one expect the crowds to be generally gone? Once a new pope
> is elected, will crowds be there to see him, or can we expect to play
> tourist without the crowds when we arrive for vacation about May 1st
> (assuming the elections are over by then?
i think the great part of piligrms will leave rome after the funeral,
so after that day there will still be lot of people but it'll be fine.
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> When would one expect the crowds to be generally gone? Once a new pope
> is elected, will crowds be there to see him, or can we expect to play
> tourist without the crowds when we arrive for vacation about May 1st
> (assuming the elections are over by then?
i think the great part of piligrms will leave rome after the funeral,
so after that day there will still be lot of people but it'll be fine.
Apr 7th 2005 | 3:35 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
"Italian Job" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel
messaggio news:[email protected].. .
> "Romeo Raabe" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
> > When would one expect the crowds to be generally gone? Once a new pope
> > is elected, will crowds be there to see him, or can we expect to play
> > tourist without the crowds when we arrive for vacation about May 1st
> > (assuming the elections are over by then?
> i think the great part of piligrms will leave rome after the funeral,
> so after that day there will still be lot of people but it'll be fine.
i forgot to say that italian TV said that.
messaggio news:[email protected].. .
> "Romeo Raabe" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
> > When would one expect the crowds to be generally gone? Once a new pope
> > is elected, will crowds be there to see him, or can we expect to play
> > tourist without the crowds when we arrive for vacation about May 1st
> > (assuming the elections are over by then?
> i think the great part of piligrms will leave rome after the funeral,
> so after that day there will still be lot of people but it'll be fine.
i forgot to say that italian TV said that.
Apr 7th 2005 | 9:16 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:49:11 +0200, "Italian Job"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Rita" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:[email protected].. .
>> Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>> toilets? Or do they?
>Italian Protezione Civile managed to put nearby the queues loads of Chemical
>Toilets.
>I saw them starting to work like bees just 10 minutes after the pope's
>death.
>They did a great work, but this last "rush-day" they were not enough.
>So the piligirms started to assault toilets in bars and shops.
>I'm roman, i went to say goodbye to the pope on monday night. I managed to
>do that in 5 hours and a half.
>Great organization.
In any other scenario, the Italians wouldn't give a shit about being
organised for anything. When it comes to something they actually care
about, watch them manage with prowess.
Ya have to love this country!
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Rita" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:[email protected].. .
>> Where do these millions of people on the streets find
>> toilets? Or do they?
>Italian Protezione Civile managed to put nearby the queues loads of Chemical
>Toilets.
>I saw them starting to work like bees just 10 minutes after the pope's
>death.
>They did a great work, but this last "rush-day" they were not enough.
>So the piligirms started to assault toilets in bars and shops.
>I'm roman, i went to say goodbye to the pope on monday night. I managed to
>do that in 5 hours and a half.
>Great organization.
In any other scenario, the Italians wouldn't give a shit about being
organised for anything. When it comes to something they actually care
about, watch them manage with prowess.
Ya have to love this country!
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Apr 7th 2005 | 11:25 am
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Re: Question on the Crowds in Rome
"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> ha scritto
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> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:49:11 +0200, "Italian Job"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Rita" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> Where do these millions of people on the streets find
> >> toilets? Or do they?
> >
> >
> >Italian Protezione Civile managed to put nearby the queues loads of
Chemical
> >Toilets.
> >I saw them starting to work like bees just 10 minutes after the pope's
> >death.
> >They did a great work, but this last "rush-day" they were not enough.
> >So the piligirms started to assault toilets in bars and shops.
> >
> >I'm roman, i went to say goodbye to the pope on monday night. I managed
to
> >do that in 5 hours and a half.
> >Great organization.
> In any other scenario, the Italians wouldn't give a shit about being
> organised for anything. When it comes to something they actually care
> about, watch them manage with prowess.
> Ya have to love this country!
> --
> ---
> DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
> ---
LOL hehehehe i think u painted that in a great way!!
^_^
nel messaggio news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:49:11 +0200, "Italian Job"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Rita" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> Where do these millions of people on the streets find
> >> toilets? Or do they?
> >
> >
> >Italian Protezione Civile managed to put nearby the queues loads of
Chemical
> >Toilets.
> >I saw them starting to work like bees just 10 minutes after the pope's
> >death.
> >They did a great work, but this last "rush-day" they were not enough.
> >So the piligirms started to assault toilets in bars and shops.
> >
> >I'm roman, i went to say goodbye to the pope on monday night. I managed
to
> >do that in 5 hours and a half.
> >Great organization.
> In any other scenario, the Italians wouldn't give a shit about being
> organised for anything. When it comes to something they actually care
> about, watch them manage with prowess.
> Ya have to love this country!
> --
> ---
> DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
> ---
LOL hehehehe i think u painted that in a great way!!
^_^
