Pronunciation of Chartres
Feb 12th 2005, 1:51 pm
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Pronunciation of Chartres
OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
Is that close? Thanks a lot!
weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
Is that close? Thanks a lot!
Feb 12th 2005, 2:10 pm
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In article <[email protected] .com>, Tom
<[email protected]> wrote:
> OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
> weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
> language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
> total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
> pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
> Is that close? Thanks a lot!
That's right, there is a little roll at the end, but you may find
"Shart" more pronounceable and you'll still by understood.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
> weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
> language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
> total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
> pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
> Is that close? Thanks a lot!
That's right, there is a little roll at the end, but you may find
"Shart" more pronounceable and you'll still by understood.
--
Dan Stephenson
Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe:
http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda
Feb 12th 2005, 3:34 pm
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In news:[email protected] oups.com,
Tom <[email protected]> typed:
> OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France
> in a
> few weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No
> French
> language background but have been listening to CD's so that we
> are not
> total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
> pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like
> "shar-tre".
> Is that close? Thanks a lot!
It's something like that, but that second syllable is very weak
and swallowed up. Think of it as something between Shart and
SHART-ruh--perhaps closer to Shart.
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Tom <[email protected]> typed:
> OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France
> in a
> few weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No
> French
> language background but have been listening to CD's so that we
> are not
> total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
> pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like
> "shar-tre".
> Is that close? Thanks a lot!
It's something like that, but that second syllable is very weak
and swallowed up. Think of it as something between Shart and
SHART-ruh--perhaps closer to Shart.
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Feb 12th 2005, 4:22 pm
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On 12 Feb 2005 06:51:37 -0800, in rec.travel.europe, "Tom" <[email protected]> arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
... weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
... language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
... total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
... pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
... Is that close? Thanks a lot!
You can't go wrong with shart-tre. There is an E in the end, just don't overdo it.
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
... weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
... language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
... total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
... pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
... Is that close? Thanks a lot!
You can't go wrong with shart-tre. There is an E in the end, just don't overdo it.
Feb 12th 2005, 8:06 pm
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It's 'SHAR-TR'- that 'e' is not pronounced at all, nor is the 's'. But
you *must* say the Rs as the French do to sound authentic- the French R
is pronounced at the back of the mouth, unilke most English ones. The
way I was taught it is 'try gargling without the water', sounds odd but
it's accurate.
Edmund
you *must* say the Rs as the French do to sound authentic- the French R
is pronounced at the back of the mouth, unilke most English ones. The
way I was taught it is 'try gargling without the water', sounds odd but
it's accurate.
Edmund
Feb 12th 2005, 8:39 pm
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"Tom" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
> weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
> language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
> total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
> pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
> Is that close? Thanks a lot!
Yes, just don't pronounce the "e".
[email protected]. com...
> OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
> weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
> language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
> total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
> pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
> Is that close? Thanks a lot!
Yes, just don't pronounce the "e".
Feb 12th 2005, 8:45 pm
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"Edmund Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It's 'SHAR-TR'- that 'e' is not pronounced at all, nor is the 's'. But
> you *must* say the Rs as the French do to sound authentic- the French R
> is pronounced at the back of the mouth, unilke most English ones. The
> way I was taught it is 'try gargling without the water', sounds odd but
> it's accurate.
And you have to "swallow" the "art" sound just before you start gargling.
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> It's 'SHAR-TR'- that 'e' is not pronounced at all, nor is the 's'. But
> you *must* say the Rs as the French do to sound authentic- the French R
> is pronounced at the back of the mouth, unilke most English ones. The
> way I was taught it is 'try gargling without the water', sounds odd but
> it's accurate.
And you have to "swallow" the "art" sound just before you start gargling.
Feb 12th 2005, 9:00 pm
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Thanks everyone, I think you helped me to the point that it will work
out. I do have this secret desire to pronounce it with my native Texas
accent as "charters". That should cause a good scene at the train
station!!
Tom
out. I do have this secret desire to pronounce it with my native Texas
accent as "charters". That should cause a good scene at the train
station!!
Tom
Feb 13th 2005, 12:01 am
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>>>>I do have this secret desire to pronounce it with my native Texas accent
>>>>as "charters". That should cause a good scene at the train station!!
Oh--go on--put on AIRS, have some fun, make a spectacle, and say
"shart-TRAY".
>>>>as "charters". That should cause a good scene at the train station!!
Oh--go on--put on AIRS, have some fun, make a spectacle, and say
"shart-TRAY".
Feb 13th 2005, 11:35 am
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"Tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thanks everyone, I think you helped me to the point that it will work
> out. I do have this secret desire to pronounce it with my native Texas
> accent as "charters". That should cause a good scene at the train
> station!!
However, if you visit London and go to S. Paul's Cathedral, you will find
that the prelate persiding over the diocese, the Rt Revd and Rt Hon Richard
Chartres is indeed pronounced "charters". :-)
Alan Harrison
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> Thanks everyone, I think you helped me to the point that it will work
> out. I do have this secret desire to pronounce it with my native Texas
> accent as "charters". That should cause a good scene at the train
> station!!
However, if you visit London and go to S. Paul's Cathedral, you will find
that the prelate persiding over the diocese, the Rt Revd and Rt Hon Richard
Chartres is indeed pronounced "charters". :-)
Alan Harrison
Feb 13th 2005, 11:45 am
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Tom writes:
> OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
> weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
> language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
> total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
> pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
> Is that close? Thanks a lot!
Yes, that's close. It's difficult to transcribe without the
International Phonetic Alphabet, but "shar-truh" is very close.
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> OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
> weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
> language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
> total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
> pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
> Is that close? Thanks a lot!
Yes, that's close. It's difficult to transcribe without the
International Phonetic Alphabet, but "shar-truh" is very close.
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Feb 13th 2005, 11:47 am
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Edmund Lewis writes:
> It's 'SHAR-TR'- that 'e' is not pronounced at all, nor is the 's'. But
> you *must* say the Rs as the French do to sound authentic- the French R
> is pronounced at the back of the mouth, unilke most English ones. The
> way I was taught it is 'try gargling without the water', sounds odd but
> it's accurate.
I think the goal is to be understood, not to be authentic.
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> It's 'SHAR-TR'- that 'e' is not pronounced at all, nor is the 's'. But
> you *must* say the Rs as the French do to sound authentic- the French R
> is pronounced at the back of the mouth, unilke most English ones. The
> way I was taught it is 'try gargling without the water', sounds odd but
> it's accurate.
I think the goal is to be understood, not to be authentic.
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Feb 13th 2005, 11:47 am
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Tom writes:
> Thanks everyone, I think you helped me to the point that it will work
> out. I do have this secret desire to pronounce it with my native Texas
> accent as "charters". That should cause a good scene at the train
> station!!
I doubt it. But you may not be understood.
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> Thanks everyone, I think you helped me to the point that it will work
> out. I do have this secret desire to pronounce it with my native Texas
> accent as "charters". That should cause a good scene at the train
> station!!
I doubt it. But you may not be understood.
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Feb 13th 2005, 12:12 pm
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Yes, just about right. The last syllable is barely pronounced.
PJW
On 12 Feb 2005 06:51:37 -0800, "Tom" <[email protected]> wrote:
>OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
>weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
>language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
>total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
>pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
>Is that close? Thanks a lot!
PJW
On 12 Feb 2005 06:51:37 -0800, "Tom" <[email protected]> wrote:
>OK everyone - silly question here. But we are visiting France in a few
>weeks and would like to visit Chartres on a day trip. No French
>language background but have been listening to CD's so that we are not
>total idiots. Could someone please enlighten us on the correct
>pronunciation of Chartres? I am thinking something like "shar-tre".
>Is that close? Thanks a lot!
Feb 13th 2005, 2:21 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Yes, that's close. It's difficult to transcribe without the
> International Phonetic Alphabet, but "shar-truh" is very close.
There's an ASCII version of it. I think it should be [S'artr@]
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> Yes, that's close. It's difficult to transcribe without the
> International Phonetic Alphabet, but "shar-truh" is very close.
There's an ASCII version of it. I think it should be [S'artr@]
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