Post-trip report - London
Jan 2nd 2005, 11:00 pm
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Re: Post-trip report - London
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:10:06 +0000, Martin Rich <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Sainsbury and Tesco are the too largest players in the British
>supermarket business, and prices in their small outlets will usually
>be a bit keener than those in other convenience stores
Sainsbury dropped to 3rd some time ago, but Asda don't have any
local/metro/central type stores I believe.
Jim.
wrote:
>Sainsbury and Tesco are the too largest players in the British
>supermarket business, and prices in their small outlets will usually
>be a bit keener than those in other convenience stores
Sainsbury dropped to 3rd some time ago, but Asda don't have any
local/metro/central type stores I believe.
Jim.
Jan 3rd 2005, 3:42 am
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Re: Post-trip report - London
"ohaya" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> We had been buying the 2-zone all-day tube passes
> (4.20 GBP each) everyday, just to get around to dinner
> and shopping on our own, but by
If you find yourself there any longer on your next trip, you may want to
look into the 7-day passes for zones 1 and 2. When I was there during the
last week of 2003, they cost £20, IIRC.
> Overall, it was an enjoyable, but really exhausting trip
> (we live in the suburbs, so I guess we're not use to
> walking everywhere).
Thanks for a great trip report!
Richard
> We had been buying the 2-zone all-day tube passes
> (4.20 GBP each) everyday, just to get around to dinner
> and shopping on our own, but by
If you find yourself there any longer on your next trip, you may want to
look into the 7-day passes for zones 1 and 2. When I was there during the
last week of 2003, they cost £20, IIRC.
> Overall, it was an enjoyable, but really exhausting trip
> (we live in the suburbs, so I guess we're not use to
> walking everywhere).
Thanks for a great trip report!
Richard
Jan 3rd 2005, 9:37 am
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Re: Post-trip report - London
In message <[email protected]>, Terry Richards
<[email protected]> writes
>"Jack Campin - bogus address" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Whcih will usually have the immediate area around where you are
>> gouged out by vandals.
>> I have never seen that specific kind of petty nastiness anywhere
>> except London, it really sums the place up for me.
>I've always assumed that that effect was caused by people's fingers. Watch
>somebody at a map, almost invariably the first thing they do is put their
>finger on wherever they are now and then they put another finger on their
>destination. The destinations are spread out all over the map but, for any
>one map, the start point is always the same.
>And, yes, I have seen this effect in places other than London.
Most of the local maps I've seen near tube exits hadn't been vandalised
and were easy to make out. These are always inside the doors, which are
shut when the tube is closed at night, and often near staff points or
ticket offices. In addition, the insides of most stations, particularly
entrances and exits, are well covered by CCTV, which suggests these maps
are freer from the destructive effects of vandals than .
But as with most maps at tube stations or other points, such as subway
systems (for example, Marble Arch), you do see wear at particular
locations as a result of erosion of the material of the map.
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<[email protected]> writes
>"Jack Campin - bogus address" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Whcih will usually have the immediate area around where you are
>> gouged out by vandals.
>> I have never seen that specific kind of petty nastiness anywhere
>> except London, it really sums the place up for me.
>I've always assumed that that effect was caused by people's fingers. Watch
>somebody at a map, almost invariably the first thing they do is put their
>finger on wherever they are now and then they put another finger on their
>destination. The destinations are spread out all over the map but, for any
>one map, the start point is always the same.
>And, yes, I have seen this effect in places other than London.
Most of the local maps I've seen near tube exits hadn't been vandalised
and were easy to make out. These are always inside the doors, which are
shut when the tube is closed at night, and often near staff points or
ticket offices. In addition, the insides of most stations, particularly
entrances and exits, are well covered by CCTV, which suggests these maps
are freer from the destructive effects of vandals than .
But as with most maps at tube stations or other points, such as subway
systems (for example, Marble Arch), you do see wear at particular
locations as a result of erosion of the material of the map.
--
congokid
Good restaurants in London? Number one on Google
http://congokid.com
Jan 3rd 2005, 10:42 am
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Re: Post-trip report - London
In message <1gpsfjz.1yffosv9lu9paN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com>,
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
<[email protected]> writes
>I've never been in one of the 'steakhouse' chains in London, and I
>wouldn't recommend them. However, my partner and his family who were
>visiting London went to one near Piccadilly Circus, and they actually
>said it was fine. They live in the US, and they're usually pretty
>'fastidioso.' I was susprised by their comments, but that's what they
>said.
I recently ate at Sophie's Steakhouse on the King's Road (New Year's
Day). Didn't have steak, but the meal and the restaurant were very good
and I've seen very positive reviews elsewhere.
Mine will appear real soon.
(And there are lots of other great steak restaurants in London - Smiths
of Smithfield being one).
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http://congokid.com
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
<[email protected]> writes
>I've never been in one of the 'steakhouse' chains in London, and I
>wouldn't recommend them. However, my partner and his family who were
>visiting London went to one near Piccadilly Circus, and they actually
>said it was fine. They live in the US, and they're usually pretty
>'fastidioso.' I was susprised by their comments, but that's what they
>said.
I recently ate at Sophie's Steakhouse on the King's Road (New Year's
Day). Didn't have steak, but the meal and the restaurant were very good
and I've seen very positive reviews elsewhere.
Mine will appear real soon.
(And there are lots of other great steak restaurants in London - Smiths
of Smithfield being one).
--
congokid
Good restaurants in London? Number one on Google
http://congokid.com
Jan 3rd 2005, 11:13 am
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Re: Post-trip report - London
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:00:00 -0500, ohaya <[email protected]> wrote:
>We weren't sure what we wanted to eat for dinner, so we just wandered
>around a bit, and finally ended up at a "steakhouse" near the
>station...big mistake. The food, service, and prices were very bad... I
>guess we should have figured that one out when 3 other parties walked
>out AFTER being seated, but unfortunately, we had already ordered, so we
>felt kind of obligated to finish. I don't know if this is the case with
>all "steakhouses", but we stayed away from them all after that :(.
I'm guessing that you ate at an Angus Steakhouse. DH and I made the
same mistake when visiting London a few years ago. Dreadful service,
terrible food and all far too expensive. In fact, next time I see any
post on this NG about visiting London, I will make a point of telling
the poster to avoid them like the plague. It hadn't occurred to me
before, until I read your post. You've done future visitors a big
favour :-)
--
Julie S
>We weren't sure what we wanted to eat for dinner, so we just wandered
>around a bit, and finally ended up at a "steakhouse" near the
>station...big mistake. The food, service, and prices were very bad... I
>guess we should have figured that one out when 3 other parties walked
>out AFTER being seated, but unfortunately, we had already ordered, so we
>felt kind of obligated to finish. I don't know if this is the case with
>all "steakhouses", but we stayed away from them all after that :(.
I'm guessing that you ate at an Angus Steakhouse. DH and I made the
same mistake when visiting London a few years ago. Dreadful service,
terrible food and all far too expensive. In fact, next time I see any
post on this NG about visiting London, I will make a point of telling
the poster to avoid them like the plague. It hadn't occurred to me
before, until I read your post. You've done future visitors a big
favour :-)
--
Julie S
Jan 3rd 2005, 11:49 am
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Re: Post-trip report - London
Julie wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:00:00 -0500, ohaya <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We weren't sure what we wanted to eat for dinner, so we just wandered
>> around a bit, and finally ended up at a "steakhouse" near the
>> station...big mistake. The food, service, and prices were very
>> bad... I guess we should have figured that one out when 3 other
>> parties walked out AFTER being seated, but unfortunately, we had
>> already ordered, so we felt kind of obligated to finish. I don't
>> know if this is the case with all "steakhouses", but we stayed away
>> from them all after that :(.
> I'm guessing that you ate at an Angus Steakhouse. DH and I made the
> same mistake when visiting London a few years ago. Dreadful service,
> terrible food and all far too expensive. In fact, next time I see any
> post on this NG about visiting London, I will make a point of telling
> the poster to avoid them like the plague. It hadn't occurred to me
> before, until I read your post. You've done future visitors a big
> favour :-)
A very established chain of Steakhouses were slated on a UK TV consumer
programme a few years ago. ( Watchdog or Esther Rantzen), Over appalling
Hygiene Standards ...The kitchens etc were really disgusting. Even years
later I would never ever eat in one.
Jan
> On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:00:00 -0500, ohaya <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We weren't sure what we wanted to eat for dinner, so we just wandered
>> around a bit, and finally ended up at a "steakhouse" near the
>> station...big mistake. The food, service, and prices were very
>> bad... I guess we should have figured that one out when 3 other
>> parties walked out AFTER being seated, but unfortunately, we had
>> already ordered, so we felt kind of obligated to finish. I don't
>> know if this is the case with all "steakhouses", but we stayed away
>> from them all after that :(.
> I'm guessing that you ate at an Angus Steakhouse. DH and I made the
> same mistake when visiting London a few years ago. Dreadful service,
> terrible food and all far too expensive. In fact, next time I see any
> post on this NG about visiting London, I will make a point of telling
> the poster to avoid them like the plague. It hadn't occurred to me
> before, until I read your post. You've done future visitors a big
> favour :-)
A very established chain of Steakhouses were slated on a UK TV consumer
programme a few years ago. ( Watchdog or Esther Rantzen), Over appalling
Hygiene Standards ...The kitchens etc were really disgusting. Even years
later I would never ever eat in one.
Jan
Jan 3rd 2005, 3:19 pm
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Re: Post-trip report - London
nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:24:39 +0000, congokid
: <[email protected]> wrote:
:>In message <[email protected]>, ohaya <[email protected]> writes
:>I'm often disoriented at street level after taking the tube to an area
:>I'm unfamiliar with. My tendency is to first head in the direction I
:>think is right, realise I'm not where I want to be, take out an A-Z to
:>work out where I should be, retrace my route back to the original point
:>and then start again.
: Exits from the underground name the street where you are going to
: emerge. Consult the A-Z before emerging :-)
Take a look at this:
http://www.londonwalkthrough.co.uk/
Ed
: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:24:39 +0000, congokid
: <[email protected]> wrote:
:>In message <[email protected]>, ohaya <[email protected]> writes
:>I'm often disoriented at street level after taking the tube to an area
:>I'm unfamiliar with. My tendency is to first head in the direction I
:>think is right, realise I'm not where I want to be, take out an A-Z to
:>work out where I should be, retrace my route back to the original point
:>and then start again.
: Exits from the underground name the street where you are going to
: emerge. Consult the A-Z before emerging :-)
Take a look at this:
http://www.londonwalkthrough.co.uk/
Ed
Jan 3rd 2005, 10:02 pm
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Re: Post-trip report - London
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:00:22 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:10:06 +0000, Martin Rich <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Sainsbury and Tesco are the too largest players in the British
>>supermarket business, and prices in their small outlets will usually
>>be a bit keener than those in other convenience stores
>Sainsbury dropped to 3rd some time ago
Sorry - I did know that but somehow forgot when I was writing my
earlier post
> but Asda don't have any
>local/metro/central type stores I believe.
I didn't know that, but it would help to explain why I see fewer Asda
outlets around than Sainsbury or Tesco.
Martin
>On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:10:06 +0000, Martin Rich <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Sainsbury and Tesco are the too largest players in the British
>>supermarket business, and prices in their small outlets will usually
>>be a bit keener than those in other convenience stores
>Sainsbury dropped to 3rd some time ago
Sorry - I did know that but somehow forgot when I was writing my
earlier post
> but Asda don't have any
>local/metro/central type stores I believe.
I didn't know that, but it would help to explain why I see fewer Asda
outlets around than Sainsbury or Tesco.
Martin
Jan 9th 2005, 9:02 pm
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Re: Post-trip report - London
Following up to ohaya
>"steakhouse" near the
>station...big mistake. The food, service, and prices were very bad... I
>guess we should have figured that one out when 3 other parties walked
>out AFTER being seated, but unfortunately, we had already ordered, so we
>felt kind of obligated to finish. I don't know if this is the case with
>all "steakhouses", but we stayed away from them all after that :(.
I would never go near a steakhouse.
> Harrods, and watching two little kids, each
>eating some sundaes that cost 15 GPB each ($30.00), and thinking
>"wow!".
Harrods is an expensive shop and £15 for a sundae is expensive by
my (Londoner) standards. Glad you enjoyede yourself!
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>"steakhouse" near the
>station...big mistake. The food, service, and prices were very bad... I
>guess we should have figured that one out when 3 other parties walked
>out AFTER being seated, but unfortunately, we had already ordered, so we
>felt kind of obligated to finish. I don't know if this is the case with
>all "steakhouses", but we stayed away from them all after that :(.
I would never go near a steakhouse.
> Harrods, and watching two little kids, each
>eating some sundaes that cost 15 GPB each ($30.00), and thinking
>"wow!".
Harrods is an expensive shop and £15 for a sundae is expensive by
my (Londoner) standards. Glad you enjoyede yourself!
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Jan 30th 2005, 12:01 am
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Re: Post-trip report - London
On 2005-01-02, Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> Angus Steakhouse by any chance? I have never heard anything but bad
> stuff about them.
There is at least 3 "Steakhouse" chains in London. Angus Steakhouse,
Aberdeen Steakhouse and another one with a similar "Scottish" name.
They all look alike and they all offer lousy food at high prices.
If there's any justice, they'll go out of business soon.
> Angus Steakhouse by any chance? I have never heard anything but bad
> stuff about them.
There is at least 3 "Steakhouse" chains in London. Angus Steakhouse,
Aberdeen Steakhouse and another one with a similar "Scottish" name.
They all look alike and they all offer lousy food at high prices.
If there's any justice, they'll go out of business soon.
Jan 30th 2005, 12:01 am
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Re: Post-trip report - London
On 2005-01-02, congokid <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm often disoriented at street level after taking the tube to an area
> I'm unfamiliar with. My tendency is to first head in the direction I
> think is right, realise I'm not where I want to be, take out an A-Z to
> work out where I should be, retrace my route back to the original point
> and then start again.
Get a small compass and check it when leaving the station. It makes a
big difference.
> I'm often disoriented at street level after taking the tube to an area
> I'm unfamiliar with. My tendency is to first head in the direction I
> think is right, realise I'm not where I want to be, take out an A-Z to
> work out where I should be, retrace my route back to the original point
> and then start again.
Get a small compass and check it when leaving the station. It makes a
big difference.
