Please critique my UK itinerary
Jan 21st 2007, 2:07 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:05:40 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>In article <[email protected] .com>,
>[email protected] (Iceman) wrote:
>
>> *From:* "Iceman" <[email protected]>
>> *Date:* 20 Jan 2007 21:01:08 -0800
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > This is for late October, 2007:
>> >
>> > Day 1 - leave Seattle
>> > Day 2 - arrive London AM
>> > Day 3, 4 - London
>> > Day 5 - AM train to York
>> > Day 6 - morning in York, rent car, drive to Chester (area)
>> > Day 7 - Chester through N. Wales to Warwick area
>> > Day 8 - Warwick Castle in AM, afternoon in Cotswolds.
>> > Day 9 - Cotswolds - drive to Bath, return car
>> > Day 10 - Bath
>> > Day 11 - coach to Heathrow and home
>> >
>> > We consider this to be (hopefully) the first of many trips and realize
>> > there is not enough time to do much of anything "in depth". What do
>> > you think? Thanks.
>>
>> Even for a quick first trip, it's too many places in too little time.
>> You would spend way too much of your time on the road, and going to and
>> from hotels. With just eight full days, and coming off a transatlantic
>> flight (so expect to be tired from jet lag your first two days), most
>> of your days in this plan would involve at least some driving or a bus
>> or train, and you'd have to change hotels almost every night.
>>
>> I would highly recommend that you see fewer places, and spend more time
>> in each of them. You will enjoy your trip a lot more that way than if
>> you are always on the move. Why don't you stick to London, York and
>> Bath on this trip? Even that would be somewhat fast paced.
>
>I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a day
>trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
--
Martin
>In article <[email protected] .com>,
>[email protected] (Iceman) wrote:
>
>> *From:* "Iceman" <[email protected]>
>> *Date:* 20 Jan 2007 21:01:08 -0800
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > This is for late October, 2007:
>> >
>> > Day 1 - leave Seattle
>> > Day 2 - arrive London AM
>> > Day 3, 4 - London
>> > Day 5 - AM train to York
>> > Day 6 - morning in York, rent car, drive to Chester (area)
>> > Day 7 - Chester through N. Wales to Warwick area
>> > Day 8 - Warwick Castle in AM, afternoon in Cotswolds.
>> > Day 9 - Cotswolds - drive to Bath, return car
>> > Day 10 - Bath
>> > Day 11 - coach to Heathrow and home
>> >
>> > We consider this to be (hopefully) the first of many trips and realize
>> > there is not enough time to do much of anything "in depth". What do
>> > you think? Thanks.
>>
>> Even for a quick first trip, it's too many places in too little time.
>> You would spend way too much of your time on the road, and going to and
>> from hotels. With just eight full days, and coming off a transatlantic
>> flight (so expect to be tired from jet lag your first two days), most
>> of your days in this plan would involve at least some driving or a bus
>> or train, and you'd have to change hotels almost every night.
>>
>> I would highly recommend that you see fewer places, and spend more time
>> in each of them. You will enjoy your trip a lot more that way than if
>> you are always on the move. Why don't you stick to London, York and
>> Bath on this trip? Even that would be somewhat fast paced.
>
>I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a day
>trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
--
Martin
Jan 21st 2007, 2:58 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
"Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> tim..... wrote:
>> "Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>> > [email protected] wrote:
>> >> We consider this to be (hopefully) the first of many trips and realize
>> >> there is not enough time to do much of anything "in depth". What do
>> >> you think? Thanks.
>> >
>> > Even for a quick first trip, it's too many places in too little time.
>> > You would spend way too much of your time on the road, and going to and
>> > from hotels. With just eight full days, and coming off a transatlantic
>> > flight (so expect to be tired from jet lag your first two days), most
>> > of your days in this plan would involve at least some driving or a bus
>> > or train,
>>
>> You make the (IMHO wrong) assumption that people see
>> travelling as a chore and not as 'part of the experience of
>> being in a different country'.
>
> It can be a big part of the experience in some cases, but on a short
> trip, is that really how you want to spend much of your time?
It is the OP you should be asking this.
And that is my point. You should be asking him
what he prefers, NOT telling him.
> And
> while there are many rewarding road or rail journeys in the world, most
> of what the OP has in mind would not qualify.
Most journeys are not "Great journeys of the World"
but IME the first journey in a new country by a different
mode is always exciting, no matter how interesting the
scenery.
>
>> For me, when I am on holiday, the driving (train/bus) betwen
>> paces is at least as important as seeing the place that I am
>> going to.
>
> I've done a lot of both types of travel, and come to the conclusion
> that the trips I enjoyed the most and got the most out of were
here we go again "I".
"I" happen to be completely the opposite. I really like
one day travelling, one day (or less) in a town, and hate
4 or 5 days in a town the size of (for example) York.
There just isn't enough to do without doing it again
I attach no value to a different cafe/resturant/bar if the
rest is the same
You have no idea which camp the poster fits into
so don't make the assumption
> uniformly the ones where I spent the most time in the fewest places,
> and was more focused on meeting people and exploring than on "sights".
> Other people may have different ideas on how to travel, and I respect
> that. But it's common on a first trip to want to see everything, and
> not really consider how the travel time will impact you - it's
> definitely something that the OP should consider before deciding on an
> itinerary like this.
Aside from the trip to N Wales I don't think that his itinerary
was particularly difficult.
tim
>
news:[email protected] oups.com...
>
> tim..... wrote:
>> "Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>> > [email protected] wrote:
>> >> We consider this to be (hopefully) the first of many trips and realize
>> >> there is not enough time to do much of anything "in depth". What do
>> >> you think? Thanks.
>> >
>> > Even for a quick first trip, it's too many places in too little time.
>> > You would spend way too much of your time on the road, and going to and
>> > from hotels. With just eight full days, and coming off a transatlantic
>> > flight (so expect to be tired from jet lag your first two days), most
>> > of your days in this plan would involve at least some driving or a bus
>> > or train,
>>
>> You make the (IMHO wrong) assumption that people see
>> travelling as a chore and not as 'part of the experience of
>> being in a different country'.
>
> It can be a big part of the experience in some cases, but on a short
> trip, is that really how you want to spend much of your time?
It is the OP you should be asking this.
And that is my point. You should be asking him
what he prefers, NOT telling him.
> And
> while there are many rewarding road or rail journeys in the world, most
> of what the OP has in mind would not qualify.
Most journeys are not "Great journeys of the World"
but IME the first journey in a new country by a different
mode is always exciting, no matter how interesting the
scenery.
>
>> For me, when I am on holiday, the driving (train/bus) betwen
>> paces is at least as important as seeing the place that I am
>> going to.
>
> I've done a lot of both types of travel, and come to the conclusion
> that the trips I enjoyed the most and got the most out of were
here we go again "I".
"I" happen to be completely the opposite. I really like
one day travelling, one day (or less) in a town, and hate
4 or 5 days in a town the size of (for example) York.
There just isn't enough to do without doing it again
I attach no value to a different cafe/resturant/bar if the
rest is the same
You have no idea which camp the poster fits into
so don't make the assumption
> uniformly the ones where I spent the most time in the fewest places,
> and was more focused on meeting people and exploring than on "sights".
> Other people may have different ideas on how to travel, and I respect
> that. But it's common on a first trip to want to see everything, and
> not really consider how the travel time will impact you - it's
> definitely something that the OP should consider before deciding on an
> itinerary like this.
Aside from the trip to N Wales I don't think that his itinerary
was particularly difficult.
tim
>
Jan 21st 2007, 4:17 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
"Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote
> I've done a lot of both types of travel, and come to the conclusion
> that the trips I enjoyed the most and got the most out of were
> uniformly the ones where I spent the most time in the fewest places,
> and was more focused on meeting people and exploring than on "sights".
> Other people may have different ideas on how to travel, and I respect
> that. But it's common on a first trip to want to see everything, and
> not really consider how the travel time will impact you - it's
> definitely something that the OP should consider before deciding on an
> itinerary like this.
We did a three week - 7000 km trip around California, Utah, Arizona
It was exhausting, but as you say one wants to see as much as possible.....
I prefer a more relaxed itinery
Jenny
> I've done a lot of both types of travel, and come to the conclusion
> that the trips I enjoyed the most and got the most out of were
> uniformly the ones where I spent the most time in the fewest places,
> and was more focused on meeting people and exploring than on "sights".
> Other people may have different ideas on how to travel, and I respect
> that. But it's common on a first trip to want to see everything, and
> not really consider how the travel time will impact you - it's
> definitely something that the OP should consider before deciding on an
> itinerary like this.
We did a three week - 7000 km trip around California, Utah, Arizona
It was exhausting, but as you say one wants to see as much as possible.....
I prefer a more relaxed itinery
Jenny
Jan 21st 2007, 6:35 am
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Re: UK Itinerary Followup was: Please critique my UK itinerary
Hello and thanks so much to everyone who wrote. On the basis of all the
great suggestions, I am revising my plan as follows:
Day 1 - flight from Seattle
Day 2, 3, 4, 5 - London
Day 6 - morning train to York, spend afternoon there
Day 7 - morning in York, get rental car, start driving in a
Southwesterly direction!
Day 8 through 11 - spend these four days seeing as much as we can of N.
Wales and the Cotswolds area. By the evening of Day 11, end up in Bath
Day 12 - Bath...probably coach back to Heathrow in the evening
Day 13 - fly home.
I am thinking of making reservations for the four nights in London, and
the single nights in York, Bath, and at Heathrow. I am hoping it won't
be difficult to find lodging in late October for the four unscheduled
nights, and it will make it a little less rigidly structured for us. As
you can see, I've added two days to the length of the trip as well.
What do you think?
Thanks again so much.
great suggestions, I am revising my plan as follows:
Day 1 - flight from Seattle
Day 2, 3, 4, 5 - London
Day 6 - morning train to York, spend afternoon there
Day 7 - morning in York, get rental car, start driving in a
Southwesterly direction!
Day 8 through 11 - spend these four days seeing as much as we can of N.
Wales and the Cotswolds area. By the evening of Day 11, end up in Bath
Day 12 - Bath...probably coach back to Heathrow in the evening
Day 13 - fly home.
I am thinking of making reservations for the four nights in London, and
the single nights in York, Bath, and at Heathrow. I am hoping it won't
be difficult to find lodging in late October for the four unscheduled
nights, and it will make it a little less rigidly structured for us. As
you can see, I've added two days to the length of the trip as well.
What do you think?
Thanks again so much.
Jan 21st 2007, 8:21 am
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Re: UK Itinerary Followup was: Please critique my UK itinerary
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] () wrote:
> *From:* [email protected]
> *Date:* Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:35:10 -0800
>
>
>
> Hello and thanks so much to everyone who wrote. On the basis of all
> the great suggestions, I am revising my plan as follows:
>
> Day 1 - flight from Seattle
> Day 2, 3, 4, 5 - London
> Day 6 - morning train to York, spend afternoon there
> Day 7 - morning in York, get rental car, start driving in a
> Southwesterly direction!
> Day 8 through 11 - spend these four days seeing as much as we can of N.
> Wales and the Cotswolds area. By the evening of Day 11, end up in Bath
> Day 12 - Bath...probably coach back to Heathrow in the evening
> Day 13 - fly home.
>
> I am thinking of making reservations for the four nights in London, and
> the single nights in York, Bath, and at Heathrow. I am hoping it won't
> be difficult to find lodging in late October for the four unscheduled
> nights
Just be aware that your trip will probably coincide with school half-term
holidays, which can make accommodation a little busier than usual. It
shouldn't be a major problem, though, outside family-resort kind of
places.
> *From:* [email protected]
> *Date:* Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:35:10 -0800
>
>
>
> Hello and thanks so much to everyone who wrote. On the basis of all
> the great suggestions, I am revising my plan as follows:
>
> Day 1 - flight from Seattle
> Day 2, 3, 4, 5 - London
> Day 6 - morning train to York, spend afternoon there
> Day 7 - morning in York, get rental car, start driving in a
> Southwesterly direction!
> Day 8 through 11 - spend these four days seeing as much as we can of N.
> Wales and the Cotswolds area. By the evening of Day 11, end up in Bath
> Day 12 - Bath...probably coach back to Heathrow in the evening
> Day 13 - fly home.
>
> I am thinking of making reservations for the four nights in London, and
> the single nights in York, Bath, and at Heathrow. I am hoping it won't
> be difficult to find lodging in late October for the four unscheduled
> nights
Just be aware that your trip will probably coincide with school half-term
holidays, which can make accommodation a little busier than usual. It
shouldn't be a major problem, though, outside family-resort kind of
places.
Jan 21st 2007, 8:21 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Martin) wrote:
> *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:07:47 +0100
>
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:05:40 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected] .com>,
> >[email protected] (Iceman) wrote:
> >
> >> *From:* "Iceman" <[email protected]>
> >> *Date:* 20 Jan 2007 21:01:08 -0800
> >>
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >> > This is for late October, 2007:
> >> >
> >> > Day 1 - leave Seattle
> >> > Day 2 - arrive London AM
> >> > Day 3, 4 - London
> >> > Day 5 - AM train to York
> >> > Day 6 - morning in York, rent car, drive to Chester (area)
> >> > Day 7 - Chester through N. Wales to Warwick area
> >> > Day 8 - Warwick Castle in AM, afternoon in Cotswolds.
> >> > Day 9 - Cotswolds - drive to Bath, return car
> >> > Day 10 - Bath
> >> > Day 11 - coach to Heathrow and home
> >> >
> >> > We consider this to be (hopefully) the first of many trips and
> > > realize
> >> > there is not enough time to do much of anything "in depth". What
> > > do
> >> > you think? Thanks.
> >>
> >> Even for a quick first trip, it's too many places in too little time.
> >> You would spend way too much of your time on the road, and going to
> > and
> >> from hotels. With just eight full days, and coming off a
> > transatlantic
> >> flight (so expect to be tired from jet lag your first two days), most
> >> of your days in this plan would involve at least some driving or a
> > bus
> >> or train, and you'd have to change hotels almost every night.
> >>
> >> I would highly recommend that you see fewer places, and spend more
> > time
> >> in each of them. You will enjoy your trip a lot more that way than
> > if
> >> you are always on the move. Why don't you stick to London, York and
> >> Bath on this trip? Even that would be somewhat fast paced.
> >
> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>
> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
[email protected] (Martin) wrote:
> *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:07:47 +0100
>
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:05:40 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected] .com>,
> >[email protected] (Iceman) wrote:
> >
> >> *From:* "Iceman" <[email protected]>
> >> *Date:* 20 Jan 2007 21:01:08 -0800
> >>
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >> > This is for late October, 2007:
> >> >
> >> > Day 1 - leave Seattle
> >> > Day 2 - arrive London AM
> >> > Day 3, 4 - London
> >> > Day 5 - AM train to York
> >> > Day 6 - morning in York, rent car, drive to Chester (area)
> >> > Day 7 - Chester through N. Wales to Warwick area
> >> > Day 8 - Warwick Castle in AM, afternoon in Cotswolds.
> >> > Day 9 - Cotswolds - drive to Bath, return car
> >> > Day 10 - Bath
> >> > Day 11 - coach to Heathrow and home
> >> >
> >> > We consider this to be (hopefully) the first of many trips and
> > > realize
> >> > there is not enough time to do much of anything "in depth". What
> > > do
> >> > you think? Thanks.
> >>
> >> Even for a quick first trip, it's too many places in too little time.
> >> You would spend way too much of your time on the road, and going to
> > and
> >> from hotels. With just eight full days, and coming off a
> > transatlantic
> >> flight (so expect to be tired from jet lag your first two days), most
> >> of your days in this plan would involve at least some driving or a
> > bus
> >> or train, and you'd have to change hotels almost every night.
> >>
> >> I would highly recommend that you see fewer places, and spend more
> > time
> >> in each of them. You will enjoy your trip a lot more that way than
> > if
> >> you are always on the move. Why don't you stick to London, York and
> >> Bath on this trip? Even that would be somewhat fast paced.
> >
> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>
> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
Jan 21st 2007, 8:32 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>>
>> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>
>That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
--
Martin
>> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>>
>> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>
>That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
--
Martin
Jan 21st 2007, 8:44 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
> >>
> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
> >
> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>
> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
> Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
I might add that I've only been to Whitby once, and that was a tourist.
I was 16, travelling with a couple of friends from near Darlington. It
was a nice day IIRC!
--
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> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
> >>
> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
> >
> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>
> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
> Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
I might add that I've only been to Whitby once, and that was a tourist.
I was 16, travelling with a couple of friends from near Darlington. It
was a nice day IIRC!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jan 21st 2007, 8:47 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:45 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>> >>
>> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>> >
>> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>>
>> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>> Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
>
>I might add that I've only been to Whitby once, and that was a tourist.
>I was 16, travelling with a couple of friends from near Darlington. It
>was a nice day IIRC!
We go to the Whitby area two or three times a year. The sun always shines on
Whitby :-)
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>> >>
>> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>> >
>> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>>
>> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>> Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
>
>I might add that I've only been to Whitby once, and that was a tourist.
>I was 16, travelling with a couple of friends from near Darlington. It
>was a nice day IIRC!
We go to the Whitby area two or three times a year. The sun always shines on
Whitby :-)
--
Martin
Jan 21st 2007, 8:51 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:45 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> >> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
> >> >>
> >> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
> >> >
> >> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
> >>
> >> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
> >> Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
> >
> >I might add that I've only been to Whitby once, and that was a tourist.
> >I was 16, travelling with a couple of friends from near Darlington. It
> >was a nice day IIRC!
>
> We go to the Whitby area two or three times a year. The sun always shines on
> Whitby :-)
Pity it didn't make it to nearby Scarborough the only time we went!
I
think there was sunshine for a minute. I did enjoy the visit though, but
would like to go back when it's sunny. The east coast usually does
better for sunshine, doesn't it? I've had an odd relationship with
Aldeburgh in that on the last 4 or 5 visits there, usually only a day or
two, it's been sunny- even in mid-winter!
--
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> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:45 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> >> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
> >> >>
> >> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
> >> >
> >> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
> >>
> >> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
> >> Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
> >
> >I might add that I've only been to Whitby once, and that was a tourist.
> >I was 16, travelling with a couple of friends from near Darlington. It
> >was a nice day IIRC!
>
> We go to the Whitby area two or three times a year. The sun always shines on
> Whitby :-)
Pity it didn't make it to nearby Scarborough the only time we went!
Ithink there was sunshine for a minute. I did enjoy the visit though, but
would like to go back when it's sunny. The east coast usually does
better for sunshine, doesn't it? I've had an odd relationship with
Aldeburgh in that on the last 4 or 5 visits there, usually only a day or
two, it's been sunny- even in mid-winter!
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Jan 21st 2007, 9:22 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
> >>
> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
> >
> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>
> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
When I was in York, for some reason it was full of hen parties!
> On Sun, 21 Jan:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
> >>
> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
> >
> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>
> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
When I was in York, for some reason it was full of hen parties!
Jan 21st 2007, 9:27 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Jan:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> > >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> > >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
> > >>
> > >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
> > >
> > >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
> >
> > Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>
> When I was in York, for some reason it was full of hen parties!
Was Bratislava closed that weekend?
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> Martin wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Jan:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> > >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
> > >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
> > >>
> > >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
> > >
> > >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
> >
> > Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>
> When I was in York, for some reason it was full of hen parties!
Was Bratislava closed that weekend?
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Jan 21st 2007, 9:41 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:27:47 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Martin wrote:
>> > On Sun, 21 Jan:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> > >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>> > >>
>> > >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>> > >
>> > >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>> >
>> > Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>>
>> When I was in York, for some reason it was full of hen parties!
>
>Was Bratislava closed that weekend?
It is a popular place for young slags to get disgustingly drunk. There was a
film on the BBC website of Micklegate full of drunken slappers.
--
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chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Martin wrote:
>> > On Sun, 21 Jan:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> > >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>> > >>
>> > >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>> > >
>> > >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>> >
>> > Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>>
>> When I was in York, for some reason it was full of hen parties!
>
>Was Bratislava closed that weekend?
It is a popular place for young slags to get disgustingly drunk. There was a
film on the BBC website of Micklegate full of drunken slappers.
--
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Jan 21st 2007, 9:41 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
On 21 Jan 2007 14:22:49 -0800, "Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Jan:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>> >>
>> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>> >
>> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>>
>> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>
>When I was in York, for some reason it was full of hen parties!
Don't blame yourself :-)
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>Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Jan:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>> >>
>> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>> >
>> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>>
>> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>
>When I was in York, for some reason it was full of hen parties!
Don't blame yourself :-)
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Jan 21st 2007, 9:45 am
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Re: Please critique my UK itinerary
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:51:33 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:45 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> >> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>> >> >
>> >> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>> >>
>> >> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>> >> Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
>> >
>> >I might add that I've only been to Whitby once, and that was a tourist.
>> >I was 16, travelling with a couple of friends from near Darlington. It
>> >was a nice day IIRC!
>>
>> We go to the Whitby area two or three times a year. The sun always shines on
>> Whitby :-)
>
>Pity it didn't make it to nearby Scarborough the only time we went! I
>think there was sunshine for a minute. I did enjoy the visit though, but
>would like to go back when it's sunny. The east coast usually does
>better for sunshine, doesn't it? I've had an odd relationship with
>Aldeburgh in that on the last 4 or 5 visits there, usually only a day or
>two, it's been sunny- even in mid-winter!
The bits between the moors and the sea have a micro climate.
We used to stay in Goathland, that had it's own sunny climate too.
It has been sunny every Monday this year in Zuid Holland.
and gales on Saturdays and Thursdays
For a change we had a big thunderstorm in the middle of last night.
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Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:45 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:21:22 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> >I'd go further and suggest sticking to London and York - maybe with a
>> >> >> day >trip out of York to see somewhere smaller. (Ripon? Whitby?)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Whitby is saturated with OAPs on coach trips.
>> >> >
>> >> >That logic might rule out Bath and York too, unfortunately!
>> >>
>> >> Tourists in York aren't mainly OAPs they are from all age groups.
>> >> Maybe OAPs go to Bath to take the waters?
>> >
>> >I might add that I've only been to Whitby once, and that was a tourist.
>> >I was 16, travelling with a couple of friends from near Darlington. It
>> >was a nice day IIRC!
>>
>> We go to the Whitby area two or three times a year. The sun always shines on
>> Whitby :-)
>
>Pity it didn't make it to nearby Scarborough the only time we went!
I>think there was sunshine for a minute. I did enjoy the visit though, but
>would like to go back when it's sunny. The east coast usually does
>better for sunshine, doesn't it? I've had an odd relationship with
>Aldeburgh in that on the last 4 or 5 visits there, usually only a day or
>two, it's been sunny- even in mid-winter!
The bits between the moors and the sea have a micro climate.
We used to stay in Goathland, that had it's own sunny climate too.
It has been sunny every Monday this year in Zuid Holland.
and gales on Saturdays and Thursdays
For a change we had a big thunderstorm in the middle of last night.
--
Martin
