Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
Oct 28th 2004, 10:28 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
in article [email protected], [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote on 29/10/04 10:35:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:25:02 GMT, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>> But in most places it's the good American kind of pizzas that people are
>>>> eating, not the silly little Italian crispy wafer with an oil slick on top
>>>> of it.
>>>
>>> Yes!
>>
>> It's just odd to see people eating pizza with fork and knife.
>>
>> And pizza with fruits de mer. What is that about?
>
> My wife's favourite :-)
>
>> Do people eat a lot
>> of bread or doughy foods with seafood?
>
> pass
It works well if done well. However, most just use canned tuna
which misses the opportunity.
My wife described the ones we got in the south of France, years
ago. No cheese, olive oil soaked crusts, mussels, shrimp and some
tuna, and herbs.
The hot oil goes better with this that other types of pizza.
The problem is that most pizza places in France are cheap
and the save on the ingredients. It is the kind of food
teenagers eat on a night out on the town. They eat a pizza,
a caraf of water and no wine and have coffee, total bill
well under 15 euros.
Earl
[email protected] wrote on 29/10/04 10:35:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:25:02 GMT, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>> But in most places it's the good American kind of pizzas that people are
>>>> eating, not the silly little Italian crispy wafer with an oil slick on top
>>>> of it.
>>>
>>> Yes!
>>
>> It's just odd to see people eating pizza with fork and knife.
>>
>> And pizza with fruits de mer. What is that about?
>
> My wife's favourite :-)
>
>> Do people eat a lot
>> of bread or doughy foods with seafood?
>
> pass
It works well if done well. However, most just use canned tuna
which misses the opportunity.
My wife described the ones we got in the south of France, years
ago. No cheese, olive oil soaked crusts, mussels, shrimp and some
tuna, and herbs.
The hot oil goes better with this that other types of pizza.
The problem is that most pizza places in France are cheap
and the save on the ingredients. It is the kind of food
teenagers eat on a night out on the town. They eat a pizza,
a caraf of water and no wine and have coffee, total bill
well under 15 euros.
Earl
Oct 28th 2004, 10:33 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
in article 1099041770.hr/81loHmBRICPlQO13WNA@teranews, Tim Challenger at
[email protected] wrote on 29/10/04 11:22:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:32:20 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:27:10 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:32:46 +0200, Magda wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are dirty ...
>>> very probably
>>>
>>>> ... and disgusting.
>>> your opinion.
>>
>> Do you prefer your cockroaches grilled or deep fried in batter
>> Austrian style, Tim?
>
> Oh crispy, please. With the innards just bubbling slightly.
>
> I wouldn't want to eat one but I don't find cockies disgusting in
> themselves.
Reminds me of Dracula's mad assistant who liked to eat bugs.
Earl
[email protected] wrote on 29/10/04 11:22:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:32:20 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:27:10 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:32:46 +0200, Magda wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are dirty ...
>>> very probably
>>>
>>>> ... and disgusting.
>>> your opinion.
>>
>> Do you prefer your cockroaches grilled or deep fried in batter
>> Austrian style, Tim?
>
> Oh crispy, please. With the innards just bubbling slightly.
>
> I wouldn't want to eat one but I don't find cockies disgusting in
> themselves.
Reminds me of Dracula's mad assistant who liked to eat bugs.
Earl
Oct 28th 2004, 10:38 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:17:04 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 29 Oct 2004 03:08:59 -0700, PJ O'Donovan wrote:
>> Shell fish rely on the excrement of other
>> species for nourishment.
>Some do, some don't.
>Many filter feeders live mostly off plankton, both animal larvae and algae
>and diatoms.
>What about fish such as trout and salmon? They eat their prey whole, shit
>and all.
and mackerel aren't called bottom feeders for nothing :-)
[yes, I know they aren't]
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 29 Oct 2004 03:08:59 -0700, PJ O'Donovan wrote:
>> Shell fish rely on the excrement of other
>> species for nourishment.
>Some do, some don't.
>Many filter feeders live mostly off plankton, both animal larvae and algae
>and diatoms.
>What about fish such as trout and salmon? They eat their prey whole, shit
>and all.
and mackerel aren't called bottom feeders for nothing :-)
[yes, I know they aren't]
--
Martin
Oct 28th 2004, 10:38 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:20:29 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:17:52 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> I personally prefer a good pizza to a hamburger
>Do you prefer a pizza to a good hamburger though?
>How do you rate a good pizza against a good hamburger?
.. and what about a good hamburger pizza?
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:17:52 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> I personally prefer a good pizza to a hamburger
>Do you prefer a pizza to a good hamburger though?
>How do you rate a good pizza against a good hamburger?
.. and what about a good hamburger pizza?
--
Martin
Oct 28th 2004, 10:40 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:34:47 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, poldy <[email protected]> arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... In article <[email protected]>,
... "Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > Excellent. Pizza's are much nicer than burgers.
...
... I think the recent trend in the US has gone against pizzas. I hear
... sales at pizzarias are down, partly because of the success of the frozen
... rising crust products.
...
... Meanwhile, the Atkins craze has helped chains like McDonald's do well.
Who needs to go to McShit to have a steak ??
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... In article <[email protected]>,
... "Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > Excellent. Pizza's are much nicer than burgers.
...
... I think the recent trend in the US has gone against pizzas. I hear
... sales at pizzarias are down, partly because of the success of the frozen
... rising crust products.
...
... Meanwhile, the Atkins craze has helped chains like McDonald's do well.
Who needs to go to McShit to have a steak ??
Oct 28th 2004, 10:45 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
in article [email protected], PJ O'Donovan at
[email protected] wrote on 29/10/04 12:08:
> Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<BDA6BAB2.227FC%[email protected]>...
>>
>
>> The local Indians, having never seen lobster, thought the
>> white men were crazy in eating these monster sized insects.
>> Real yucky.
>>
>> To each his own.
>>
>> Earl
>
> The Indians had it right. Shell fish rely on the excrement of other
> species
> for nourishment. Explains why many people like myself are allegic to
> shell fish because it is recycled excrement.
Depends of what one is talking about. Oysters filter water like
your Eastern Oyster (Crassostrea virginica)
From the web, one finds--
"How do oysters eat? Oysters are filter-feeders. They suck in water and
filter out the plankton and detritus to swallow. Then they spit the water
back out. (Detritus is dead plant and animal matter.) They also accidentally
filter out and collect any poisons that might be in the water. This cleans
the water, but is not so good for the oysters. Because these poisons are
more likely to be in coastal waters in the summer months, it is usually not
safe to eat oysters in the summer time. Oysters have gills and get their
oxygen from the water."
Crabs are scavengers and will eat almost anything.
You may be fixated for emotional reasons on "excrement", however. See
your shrink.
I am not an big shell fish fan, myself, although like mussels. My
wife and daughter will attack a plateau de fruits de mer with gusto.
I am the only one who has had hepatitis in the family!
Earl
[email protected] wrote on 29/10/04 12:08:
> Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<BDA6BAB2.227FC%[email protected]>...
>>
>
>> The local Indians, having never seen lobster, thought the
>> white men were crazy in eating these monster sized insects.
>> Real yucky.
>>
>> To each his own.
>>
>> Earl
>
> The Indians had it right. Shell fish rely on the excrement of other
> species
> for nourishment. Explains why many people like myself are allegic to
> shell fish because it is recycled excrement.
Depends of what one is talking about. Oysters filter water like
your Eastern Oyster (Crassostrea virginica)
From the web, one finds--
"How do oysters eat? Oysters are filter-feeders. They suck in water and
filter out the plankton and detritus to swallow. Then they spit the water
back out. (Detritus is dead plant and animal matter.) They also accidentally
filter out and collect any poisons that might be in the water. This cleans
the water, but is not so good for the oysters. Because these poisons are
more likely to be in coastal waters in the summer months, it is usually not
safe to eat oysters in the summer time. Oysters have gills and get their
oxygen from the water."
Crabs are scavengers and will eat almost anything.
You may be fixated for emotional reasons on "excrement", however. See
your shrink.
I am not an big shell fish fan, myself, although like mussels. My
wife and daughter will attack a plateau de fruits de mer with gusto.
I am the only one who has had hepatitis in the family!
Earl
Oct 28th 2004, 10:51 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:33:15 +0200, Earl Evleth wrote:
> Reminds me of Dracula's mad assistant who liked to eat bugs.
Lots of people eat insects.
I'd have trouble bringing myself to eat them, same with oysters.
--
Tim C.
> Reminds me of Dracula's mad assistant who liked to eat bugs.
Lots of people eat insects.
I'd have trouble bringing myself to eat them, same with oysters.
--
Tim C.
Oct 28th 2004, 10:51 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
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> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:55:21 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I like the pizzas near the Duomo, go into the Galleria from the Duomo
> >square, in the middle bit turn right, keep going straight until you cant
go
> >straight any more and you will be there. (outside the galleria).
> Couldn't you get outside the Galeria by a more direct route? :-)
Yes, there is a side road that'd save about 2 minujtes, but sometimes it is
better to explain the easiest route to follow not the quickest.
> There's a very good sandwich place near the Galeria too, I can't think
> of a way of getting there via the Galeria but I am sure it is
> possible.
Come on then tell me where - I need more than that.
(and do they sell Hamburgers?)
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:55:21 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I like the pizzas near the Duomo, go into the Galleria from the Duomo
> >square, in the middle bit turn right, keep going straight until you cant
go
> >straight any more and you will be there. (outside the galleria).
> Couldn't you get outside the Galeria by a more direct route? :-)
Yes, there is a side road that'd save about 2 minujtes, but sometimes it is
better to explain the easiest route to follow not the quickest.
> There's a very good sandwich place near the Galeria too, I can't think
> of a way of getting there via the Galeria but I am sure it is
> possible.
Come on then tell me where - I need more than that.
(and do they sell Hamburgers?)
Oct 28th 2004, 10:52 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
"Charles Hawtrey" wrote
| Housekeeping hint: If unexpected company is coming,
How would you know until they arrive, if they are unexpected?
| pile everything unsightly into one room and close the door.
| As you show your guests through your tidy home,
Why would I want to show guests through my home? They haven't paid two
shillings at the door.
Owain
| Housekeeping hint: If unexpected company is coming,
How would you know until they arrive, if they are unexpected?
| pile everything unsightly into one room and close the door.
| As you show your guests through your tidy home,
Why would I want to show guests through my home? They haven't paid two
shillings at the door.
Owain
Oct 28th 2004, 10:52 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:38:58 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:20:29 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:17:52 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> I personally prefer a good pizza to a hamburger
>>Do you prefer a pizza to a good hamburger though?
>>How do you rate a good pizza against a good hamburger?
>
> .. and what about a good hamburger pizza?
:-)
I've never had one but I've seen mincemeat pizzas on menus, and seen people
eat them.
--
Tim C.
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:20:29 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:17:52 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> I personally prefer a good pizza to a hamburger
>>Do you prefer a pizza to a good hamburger though?
>>How do you rate a good pizza against a good hamburger?
>
> .. and what about a good hamburger pizza?
:-)
I've never had one but I've seen mincemeat pizzas on menus, and seen people
eat them.
--
Tim C.
Oct 28th 2004, 10:54 pm
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"poldy" wrote
| Earl Evleth wrote:
| > La vraie pizza, ça se respecte. Pour abaisser les coûts, les
| > chaînes comme Pizza Hut ont créé des standards de fabrication
| > identiques aux quatre coins de la planète.
| It's sad that Pizza Hut may represent to France the American
| interpretation of pizza.
It's even sadder that it may represent to America the un-interpreted
authentic pizza.
Owain
| Earl Evleth wrote:
| > La vraie pizza, ça se respecte. Pour abaisser les coûts, les
| > chaînes comme Pizza Hut ont créé des standards de fabrication
| > identiques aux quatre coins de la planète.
| It's sad that Pizza Hut may represent to France the American
| interpretation of pizza.
It's even sadder that it may represent to America the un-interpreted
authentic pizza.
Owain
Oct 28th 2004, 10:55 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:52:35 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:38:58 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:20:29 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:17:52 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>>> I personally prefer a good pizza to a hamburger
>>>Do you prefer a pizza to a good hamburger though?
>>>How do you rate a good pizza against a good hamburger?
>>
>> .. and what about a good hamburger pizza?
>:-)
>I've never had one but I've seen mincemeat pizzas on menus, and seen people
>eat them.
They look like cat food pizzas.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:38:58 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:20:29 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:17:52 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>>> I personally prefer a good pizza to a hamburger
>>>Do you prefer a pizza to a good hamburger though?
>>>How do you rate a good pizza against a good hamburger?
>>
>> .. and what about a good hamburger pizza?
>:-)
>I've never had one but I've seen mincemeat pizzas on menus, and seen people
>eat them.
They look like cat food pizzas.
--
Martin
Oct 28th 2004, 11:48 pm
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:51:26 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:55:21 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >I like the pizzas near the Duomo, go into the Galleria from the Duomo
>> >square, in the middle bit turn right, keep going straight until you cant
>go
>> >straight any more and you will be there. (outside the galleria).
>> Couldn't you get outside the Galeria by a more direct route? :-)
>Yes, there is a side road that'd save about 2 minujtes, but sometimes it is
>better to explain the easiest route to follow not the quickest.
>> There's a very good sandwich place near the Galeria too, I can't think
>> of a way of getting there via the Galeria but I am sure it is
>> possible.
>Come on then tell me where - I need more than that.
(and tell me why I keep spelling Galleria wrong :-) )
I am trying to remember. Maybe I'll have to ask a friend - really.
Face the Galleria and follow the road past a department store to the
right for about two blocks I have vague recollections of a square.
I can recommend a good fish restaurant in Milan too, if only my memory
would function. I just realised that it's about 8 years since I was
last in Milan.
Fish restaurant
Trattoria il FARO Piazza S Materno 8 tel 2846838
I was last there 22 March 1996 or so it says on the stolen menu :-)
The problem with the sandwich place was that there was an enormous
amount of very tasty free goodies on the bar, that you could help
yourself to, often I over did it whilst I was waiting for my sandwich
to be made.
>(and do they sell Hamburgers?)
I am not sure there were two parts, we only ever gorged in the
sandwich part.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:55:21 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >I like the pizzas near the Duomo, go into the Galleria from the Duomo
>> >square, in the middle bit turn right, keep going straight until you cant
>go
>> >straight any more and you will be there. (outside the galleria).
>> Couldn't you get outside the Galeria by a more direct route? :-)
>Yes, there is a side road that'd save about 2 minujtes, but sometimes it is
>better to explain the easiest route to follow not the quickest.
>> There's a very good sandwich place near the Galeria too, I can't think
>> of a way of getting there via the Galeria but I am sure it is
>> possible.
>Come on then tell me where - I need more than that.
(and tell me why I keep spelling Galleria wrong :-) )
I am trying to remember. Maybe I'll have to ask a friend - really.
Face the Galleria and follow the road past a department store to the
right for about two blocks I have vague recollections of a square.
I can recommend a good fish restaurant in Milan too, if only my memory
would function. I just realised that it's about 8 years since I was
last in Milan.
Fish restaurant
Trattoria il FARO Piazza S Materno 8 tel 2846838
I was last there 22 March 1996 or so it says on the stolen menu :-)
The problem with the sandwich place was that there was an enormous
amount of very tasty free goodies on the bar, that you could help
yourself to, often I over did it whilst I was waiting for my sandwich
to be made.
>(and do they sell Hamburgers?)
I am not sure there were two parts, we only ever gorged in the
sandwich part.
--
Martin
Oct 29th 2004, 12:51 am
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Re: Pizzas outsell hamburgers 35 to 1 in France
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:51:26 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:55:21 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >I like the pizzas near the Duomo, go into the Galleria from the Duomo
> >> >square, in the middle bit turn right, keep going straight until you
cant
> >go
> >> >straight any more and you will be there. (outside the galleria).
> >>
> >> Couldn't you get outside the Galeria by a more direct route? :-)
> >>
> >
> >Yes, there is a side road that'd save about 2 minujtes, but sometimes it
is
> >better to explain the easiest route to follow not the quickest.
> >
> >> There's a very good sandwich place near the Galeria too, I can't think
> >> of a way of getting there via the Galeria but I am sure it is
> >> possible.
> >
> >Come on then tell me where - I need more than that.
> (and tell me why I keep spelling Galleria wrong :-) )
> I am trying to remember. Maybe I'll have to ask a friend - really.
Maybe we should ask the audience ?
> Face the Galleria and follow the road past a department store to the
> right for about two blocks I have vague recollections of a square.
I dont remember a square down there, there is an open area in front of a
church, but its hardly a square.
> I can recommend a good fish restaurant in Milan too,
I dont like sea-food, except good old British Cod and Chips on Brighton
Pier.
> if only my memory
> would function. I just realised that it's about 8 years since I was
> last in Milan.
Maybe we should organise an rte meet in Milan in December :-)
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:51:26 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:55:21 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >I like the pizzas near the Duomo, go into the Galleria from the Duomo
> >> >square, in the middle bit turn right, keep going straight until you
cant
> >go
> >> >straight any more and you will be there. (outside the galleria).
> >>
> >> Couldn't you get outside the Galeria by a more direct route? :-)
> >>
> >
> >Yes, there is a side road that'd save about 2 minujtes, but sometimes it
is
> >better to explain the easiest route to follow not the quickest.
> >
> >> There's a very good sandwich place near the Galeria too, I can't think
> >> of a way of getting there via the Galeria but I am sure it is
> >> possible.
> >
> >Come on then tell me where - I need more than that.
> (and tell me why I keep spelling Galleria wrong :-) )
> I am trying to remember. Maybe I'll have to ask a friend - really.
Maybe we should ask the audience ?
> Face the Galleria and follow the road past a department store to the
> right for about two blocks I have vague recollections of a square.
I dont remember a square down there, there is an open area in front of a
church, but its hardly a square.
> I can recommend a good fish restaurant in Milan too,
I dont like sea-food, except good old British Cod and Chips on Brighton
Pier.
> if only my memory
> would function. I just realised that it's about 8 years since I was
> last in Milan.
Maybe we should organise an rte meet in Milan in December :-)
Oct 29th 2004, 2:23 am
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Miguel Cruz wrote:
> poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Excellent. Pizza's are much nicer than burgers.
>>I think the recent trend in the US has gone against pizzas. I hear
>>sales at pizzarias are down, partly because of the success of the frozen
>>rising crust products.
>>Meanwhile, the Atkins craze has helped chains like McDonald's do well.
> Is that STILL going on? I had completely forgotten about it since moving
> away in May.
> miguel
It does because it is an extremely effective weight loss mechanism. If
you manage to survive the Liver stress.
> poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Excellent. Pizza's are much nicer than burgers.
>>I think the recent trend in the US has gone against pizzas. I hear
>>sales at pizzarias are down, partly because of the success of the frozen
>>rising crust products.
>>Meanwhile, the Atkins craze has helped chains like McDonald's do well.
> Is that STILL going on? I had completely forgotten about it since moving
> away in May.
> miguel
It does because it is an extremely effective weight loss mechanism. If
you manage to survive the Liver stress.
