Pints?
Feb 24th 2004, 7:16 am
#76
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Re: Pints?
Following up to Tim Kroesen
>A 'Whiskey Sour' is a fairly well know drink around the world; is it
>not?
That has actual lemon flavour I think, while UK lemonade is a
peculiar sugary flavourless concoction.
>Bourbon is hardly desecrated when a good Manhattan is made!
I think I would put whisky and water well above whisky and
lemonade but its probably only desecration if a malt is used.
I personally tend to feel the character spirits, whisky, whiskey,
bourbon, brandy and cognac are best enjoyed in quality versions
alone.
>> > Shandy is surprisingly less nauseating than it sounds.
>> >
>> No it's not.
>> It's even worse than the Glaswegians' whisky & lemonade, which must be
>>the
>> final desecration!
--
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>A 'Whiskey Sour' is a fairly well know drink around the world; is it
>not?
That has actual lemon flavour I think, while UK lemonade is a
peculiar sugary flavourless concoction.
>Bourbon is hardly desecrated when a good Manhattan is made!
I think I would put whisky and water well above whisky and
lemonade but its probably only desecration if a malt is used.
I personally tend to feel the character spirits, whisky, whiskey,
bourbon, brandy and cognac are best enjoyed in quality versions
alone.
>> > Shandy is surprisingly less nauseating than it sounds.
>> >
>> No it's not.
>> It's even worse than the Glaswegians' whisky & lemonade, which must be
>>the
>> final desecration!
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Walking, Wasdale, Thames path, London etc "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Feb 24th 2004, 7:40 am
#77
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Re: Pints?
Reid wrote:
> Following up to The Grammer Genious
>
>>If you say so. Whatever "500 ml" is supposed to mean. Is that some of that
>>"metric" nonsense you people are so smitten with over there?
>
> you mean the measurement system the rest of the world uses?
Yeah. Those ones. The people who *couldn't* go to the moon. Ha ha!
> Following up to The Grammer Genious
>
>>If you say so. Whatever "500 ml" is supposed to mean. Is that some of that
>>"metric" nonsense you people are so smitten with over there?
>
> you mean the measurement system the rest of the world uses?
Yeah. Those ones. The people who *couldn't* go to the moon. Ha ha!
Feb 24th 2004, 7:52 am
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Tim Kroesen <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You can even get it pre-made in a can.
> The US used to offer similar abominations prepackaged mainly for
> indoctrinating the 'youth market'...<g>
Found some good ones at 7-Eleven type shops all over Mexico. Mango,
canteloupe, etc., mixed with hard liquor, in a fun-looking can with bright
colors and happy animals. I bought one without looking carefully just
because I was excited about a canteloupe drink; didn't even notice it was
alcoholic until the second sip.
miguel
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> "Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You can even get it pre-made in a can.
> The US used to offer similar abominations prepackaged mainly for
> indoctrinating the 'youth market'...<g>
Found some good ones at 7-Eleven type shops all over Mexico. Mango,
canteloupe, etc., mixed with hard liquor, in a fun-looking can with bright
colors and happy animals. I bought one without looking carefully just
because I was excited about a canteloupe drink; didn't even notice it was
alcoholic until the second sip.
miguel
--
Hundreds of travel photos from around the world: http://travel.u.nu/
Feb 24th 2004, 7:55 am
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Reid wrote:
> Following up to Jeremy Henderson
>
>>>Shandy is surprisingly less nauseating than it sounds.
>>Especially when made with ginger beer
>
> One prefers a Pimms No1.
In the U.S., one orders a Pimm's Cup. Rather loudly. That is, if one actually
likes Southern Comfort with Squirt, but wishes to appear veddy veddy
cosmopolitan, dontcha know.
\\P. Schultz
> Following up to Jeremy Henderson
>
>>>Shandy is surprisingly less nauseating than it sounds.
>>Especially when made with ginger beer
>
> One prefers a Pimms No1.
In the U.S., one orders a Pimm's Cup. Rather loudly. That is, if one actually
likes Southern Comfort with Squirt, but wishes to appear veddy veddy
cosmopolitan, dontcha know.
\\P. Schultz
Feb 24th 2004, 7:56 am
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Re: Pints?
In article <%[email protected]>, nick
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Uh your average barman in the States wouldn't know what a microbrew was.
> Big cities, yea. Rest of the place..
U.S. beer is actually quite underestimated - and there are plenty of
excellent breweries all over the country. I know a few in upstate NY
and also in Pennsylvania. Those places are all small towns and they
definitely know their beer...
But then again, this is about Europe, so I will stop...
-Vicky
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Uh your average barman in the States wouldn't know what a microbrew was.
> Big cities, yea. Rest of the place..
U.S. beer is actually quite underestimated - and there are plenty of
excellent breweries all over the country. I know a few in upstate NY
and also in Pennsylvania. Those places are all small towns and they
definitely know their beer...
But then again, this is about Europe, so I will stop...
-Vicky
Feb 24th 2004, 8:39 am
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:43:08 GMT, Tim Kroesen wrote:
> "nick" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Uh your average barman in the States wouldn't know what a microbrew was.
>> Big cities, yea. Rest of the place..
> Not true at all; we have several locals in Cleveland that are served
> extensively; Great Lakes (brand) in particular... It wins world acclaim
> so there must be something to this brew; though I personally don't care
> for the line; too 'hoppy' IMO.
Portland (Oregon) isn't one of the top 25 cities population-wise, but we
have some 30-70 microbreweries here (depending on who you ask) and host a
local brewer's festival every yere. It'd be pretty unlikely to find a
bar/pub that didn't serve any local or regional microbrews.
The east coast does a better job in variety, IMO. Many of our local
breweries focus the same half-dozen or so styles.
--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)
> "nick" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Uh your average barman in the States wouldn't know what a microbrew was.
>> Big cities, yea. Rest of the place..
> Not true at all; we have several locals in Cleveland that are served
> extensively; Great Lakes (brand) in particular... It wins world acclaim
> so there must be something to this brew; though I personally don't care
> for the line; too 'hoppy' IMO.
Portland (Oregon) isn't one of the top 25 cities population-wise, but we
have some 30-70 microbreweries here (depending on who you ask) and host a
local brewer's festival every yere. It'd be pretty unlikely to find a
bar/pub that didn't serve any local or regional microbrews.
The east coast does a better job in variety, IMO. Many of our local
breweries focus the same half-dozen or so styles.
--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)
Feb 24th 2004, 9:49 am
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Re: Pints?
Quantity eventually makes up for quality in Whisky...
But I agree: I don't mix quality with anything! How about that English
'Three Martini' brand! Just a few Olives and NOthing else!
Tim K
"Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Following up to Tim Kroesen
> >A 'Whiskey Sour' is a fairly well know drink around the world; is it
> >not?
> That has actual lemon flavour I think, while UK lemonade is a
> peculiar sugary flavourless concoction.
> >Bourbon is hardly desecrated when a good Manhattan is made!
> I think I would put whisky and water well above whisky and
> lemonade but its probably only desecration if a malt is used.
> I personally tend to feel the character spirits, whisky, whiskey,
> bourbon, brandy and cognac are best enjoyed in quality versions
> alone.
> >> > Shandy is surprisingly less nauseating than it sounds.
> >> >
> >> No it's not.
> >> It's even worse than the Glaswegians' whisky & lemonade, which must
be
> >>the
> >> final desecration!
> --
> Mike Reid
> "Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
> Walking, Wasdale, Thames path, London etc "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
<-- you can email us@ this site
> Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@
all, it's a spamtrap
But I agree: I don't mix quality with anything! How about that English
'Three Martini' brand! Just a few Olives and NOthing else!
Tim K
"Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Following up to Tim Kroesen
> >A 'Whiskey Sour' is a fairly well know drink around the world; is it
> >not?
> That has actual lemon flavour I think, while UK lemonade is a
> peculiar sugary flavourless concoction.
> >Bourbon is hardly desecrated when a good Manhattan is made!
> I think I would put whisky and water well above whisky and
> lemonade but its probably only desecration if a malt is used.
> I personally tend to feel the character spirits, whisky, whiskey,
> bourbon, brandy and cognac are best enjoyed in quality versions
> alone.
> >> > Shandy is surprisingly less nauseating than it sounds.
> >> >
> >> No it's not.
> >> It's even worse than the Glaswegians' whisky & lemonade, which must
be
> >>the
> >> final desecration!
> --
> Mike Reid
> "Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
> Walking, Wasdale, Thames path, London etc "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
<-- you can email us@ this site
> Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@
all, it's a spamtrap
Feb 24th 2004, 10:38 am
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"JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Budweiser is the antithesis of
> best.
Depends what you mean by "Budweiser". There's a David and Goliath struggle
going on between Anheuser-Busch (as Goliath!) and the brewery named after
the town called Budweis in German and Ceske Budejovice in Czech. In Britain,
both companies can use the "Budweiser" name. You should be able to find out
more (From the Czech point of view) at http://www.budvar.cz
Alan Harrison
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> Budweiser is the antithesis of
> best.
Depends what you mean by "Budweiser". There's a David and Goliath struggle
going on between Anheuser-Busch (as Goliath!) and the brewery named after
the town called Budweis in German and Ceske Budejovice in Czech. In Britain,
both companies can use the "Budweiser" name. You should be able to find out
more (From the Czech point of view) at http://www.budvar.cz
Alan Harrison
Feb 24th 2004, 10:52 am
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<<<<> >There is.
> you know nothing.
Apologies. There are some great British beers. I regularly buy in Fullers
ESB here in the U.S., and when I'm in the U.K. I'm a real ale junkie.
But the thing generally lacking in British beers is: potency. As a result
of taxation, British beer in general has been thinned down--less grain and
less alcohol content--this is an historic development, so that most British
beer tends to be "swill light". Most mass-market American beer is "swill
light" too, but the craft beer movement has had phenomenal success in the
U.S.--the styles and variety you can find (including wonderfully hopped
beers) isn't matched in the U.K. It is much harder to find "big" beers in
Britain--both in terms of potency and flavor--than it is in the U.S.
nowadays.
> you know nothing.
Apologies. There are some great British beers. I regularly buy in Fullers
ESB here in the U.S., and when I'm in the U.K. I'm a real ale junkie.
But the thing generally lacking in British beers is: potency. As a result
of taxation, British beer in general has been thinned down--less grain and
less alcohol content--this is an historic development, so that most British
beer tends to be "swill light". Most mass-market American beer is "swill
light" too, but the craft beer movement has had phenomenal success in the
U.S.--the styles and variety you can find (including wonderfully hopped
beers) isn't matched in the U.K. It is much harder to find "big" beers in
Britain--both in terms of potency and flavor--than it is in the U.S.
nowadays.
Feb 24th 2004, 11:01 am
#85
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...especially since many states laws are being amended allowing a higher
more natural alcohol content in the beers made in the US.
Tim K
"Douglas W. Hoyt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> <<<<> >There is.
> > you know nothing.
> Apologies. There are some great British beers. I regularly buy in
Fullers
> ESB here in the U.S., and when I'm in the U.K. I'm a real ale junkie.
> But the thing generally lacking in British beers is: potency. As a
result
> of taxation, British beer in general has been thinned down--less grain
and
> less alcohol content--this is an historic development, so that most
British
> beer tends to be "swill light". Most mass-market American beer is
"swill
> light" too, but the craft beer movement has had phenomenal success in
the
> U.S.--the styles and variety you can find (including wonderfully
hopped
> beers) isn't matched in the U.K. It is much harder to find "big"
beers in
> Britain--both in terms of potency and flavor--than it is in the U.S.
> nowadays.
more natural alcohol content in the beers made in the US.
Tim K
"Douglas W. Hoyt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <<<<> >There is.
> > you know nothing.
> Apologies. There are some great British beers. I regularly buy in
Fullers
> ESB here in the U.S., and when I'm in the U.K. I'm a real ale junkie.
> But the thing generally lacking in British beers is: potency. As a
result
> of taxation, British beer in general has been thinned down--less grain
and
> less alcohol content--this is an historic development, so that most
British
> beer tends to be "swill light". Most mass-market American beer is
"swill
> light" too, but the craft beer movement has had phenomenal success in
the
> U.S.--the styles and variety you can find (including wonderfully
hopped
> beers) isn't matched in the U.K. It is much harder to find "big"
beers in
> Britain--both in terms of potency and flavor--than it is in the U.S.
> nowadays.
Feb 24th 2004, 11:26 am
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"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thomas Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Oh no not that discussion again... ok, how many Imperial fluid ounces in
> > a US gallon, I've forgotten..
> Google has rendered these discussions obsolete. Just search for "one
gallon
> in imperial fluid ounces".
> Granted, there are still some things it can't answer, like how many
noggins
> there are to a cubic furlong.
I thought noggin was a drink and naggin was a quantity (and something your
wife does when you have too many of either)...
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> Thomas Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Oh no not that discussion again... ok, how many Imperial fluid ounces in
> > a US gallon, I've forgotten..
> Google has rendered these discussions obsolete. Just search for "one
gallon
> in imperial fluid ounces".
> Granted, there are still some things it can't answer, like how many
noggins
> there are to a cubic furlong.
I thought noggin was a drink and naggin was a quantity (and something your
wife does when you have too many of either)...
Feb 24th 2004, 11:47 am
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"Charles Hawtrey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> stumbled to the
> microphone and mumbled:
> >
> >"James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> I noticed the Irish Independent newspaper still uses the word "pints"
> >> for drinks. Can any Irish residents enlighten as to whether people
> >> still ask for a pint in a bar?
> >
> >Certainly they do
> You mean the Metric Gestapo haven't found out about this one yet?
> >> And if they do, what measure do they
> >> actually get?
> >>
> >
> >A real pint , 20 fluid ozs not your wimpy US 16 oz pint
> Ah yes, the British think a pint is 20 oz, not 16. Every time I visit
> a pub in the UK I feel bad about taking advantage of foreigners, but
> the feeling passes after a few, erm, "pints".
OP wants to hear from Irish people not English twats. How many gills in a
spirit measure then ye mingey English bastards?
news:[email protected]...
> "Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> stumbled to the
> microphone and mumbled:
> >
> >"James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> I noticed the Irish Independent newspaper still uses the word "pints"
> >> for drinks. Can any Irish residents enlighten as to whether people
> >> still ask for a pint in a bar?
> >
> >Certainly they do
> You mean the Metric Gestapo haven't found out about this one yet?
> >> And if they do, what measure do they
> >> actually get?
> >>
> >
> >A real pint , 20 fluid ozs not your wimpy US 16 oz pint
> Ah yes, the British think a pint is 20 oz, not 16. Every time I visit
> a pub in the UK I feel bad about taking advantage of foreigners, but
> the feeling passes after a few, erm, "pints".
OP wants to hear from Irish people not English twats. How many gills in a
spirit measure then ye mingey English bastards?
Feb 24th 2004, 11:55 am
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"Tim Kroesen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Funny you should mention that; Cleveland is Achille Island West and I
> note a number of people drinking beer with Ice regularly; mostly Irish
> ladies...
Cleveland is the total arsehole of nowhere and Irish people wouldn't go
their while there are still more attractive sectarian war torn parts of
Ireland left.
Irish woman are the same as women all over - do NOT take ice in their beer
and most drink spirits/ wine/ alcopops anyway.
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> Funny you should mention that; Cleveland is Achille Island West and I
> note a number of people drinking beer with Ice regularly; mostly Irish
> ladies...
Cleveland is the total arsehole of nowhere and Irish people wouldn't go
their while there are still more attractive sectarian war torn parts of
Ireland left.
Irish woman are the same as women all over - do NOT take ice in their beer
and most drink spirits/ wine/ alcopops anyway.
Feb 24th 2004, 12:04 pm
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> The drink that some pubs refuse to sell is 'snakebite', half cider half
> lager. The reason I have been told is that it tends to make people throw
> up. I don't know why but it seems to get people drunk very quickly. It
> also precipitates a white powder which falls to the bottom of the grass.
Add blackcurrant for a "purple nasty". Tasted good on the way down, not so
good on the way up 10 minutes later. Aaah student days...
> lager. The reason I have been told is that it tends to make people throw
> up. I don't know why but it seems to get people drunk very quickly. It
> also precipitates a white powder which falls to the bottom of the grass.
Add blackcurrant for a "purple nasty". Tasted good on the way down, not so
good on the way up 10 minutes later. Aaah student days...
Feb 24th 2004, 12:33 pm
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"Alan Harrison" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Budweiser is the antithesis of
> > best.
> Depends what you mean by "Budweiser". There's a David and Goliath
struggle
> going on between Anheuser-Busch (as Goliath!) and the brewery named
after
> the town called Budweis in German and Ceske Budejovice in Czech. In
Britain,
> both companies can use the "Budweiser" name. You should be able to
find out
> more (From the Czech point of view) at http://www.budvar.cz
It is quite incontrovertible that Anheuser-Busch is actually older
than the present Czech Budvar company. Not that beer was not made in
Czechoslovakia but the amalgamation of the little individual
breweries occurred *after* the American company was founded.
Jim.
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> "JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Budweiser is the antithesis of
> > best.
> Depends what you mean by "Budweiser". There's a David and Goliath
struggle
> going on between Anheuser-Busch (as Goliath!) and the brewery named
after
> the town called Budweis in German and Ceske Budejovice in Czech. In
Britain,
> both companies can use the "Budweiser" name. You should be able to
find out
> more (From the Czech point of view) at http://www.budvar.cz
It is quite incontrovertible that Anheuser-Busch is actually older
than the present Czech Budvar company. Not that beer was not made in
Czechoslovakia but the amalgamation of the little individual
breweries occurred *after* the American company was founded.
Jim.
