people in Europe
Jul 9th 2007, 4:25 am
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Re: people in Europe
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 21:08:45 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "Mimi" <[email protected]> arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this:
... > ...
... > ... Pretentious? I thought the French complained about our lack of
... > ... sophistication, naivity instead of complexity. And the British saying
... > we
... > ... lacked a sense of irony. And all those complaints about Americans
... > wearing
... > ... white trainers and shorts.
... >
... > When did "sophistication" become synonym of "pretentiousness"? I think I
... > missed that memo.
...
... I find it hard to imagine pretentiousness co-existing with simplicity and
... naivity. Oh, and overfriendliness.
...
... Did you really mean pretentious? Maybe overconfident or overbearing?
More like "delusional" and "brain washed". Yes, "pretentious" is it.
some electrons, so they looked like this:
... > ...
... > ... Pretentious? I thought the French complained about our lack of
... > ... sophistication, naivity instead of complexity. And the British saying
... > we
... > ... lacked a sense of irony. And all those complaints about Americans
... > wearing
... > ... white trainers and shorts.
... >
... > When did "sophistication" become synonym of "pretentiousness"? I think I
... > missed that memo.
...
... I find it hard to imagine pretentiousness co-existing with simplicity and
... naivity. Oh, and overfriendliness.
...
... Did you really mean pretentious? Maybe overconfident or overbearing?
More like "delusional" and "brain washed". Yes, "pretentious" is it.
Jul 9th 2007, 3:32 pm
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I was just wondering if people in Europe are generally nicer than
>>people in America.
>>
>>Thank you.
>
> What an interesting spam question!
> Define 'nicer'!!!!
>
> The people in Europe and America are People just like people in Asia,
> Africa and anywhere else.
>
> As individuals, they are just as nice, stubborn, happy, sad, picky,
> generous, tired, energized, opinionated, open minded, as every where
> else.
> Just as willing to give a glass of water to a person that's hot. Or
> refused you one.
> Just as willing as you are to invite someone to share their picnic. Or
> ignore a beggar.
>
> Why would living in Europe or the Americas make anyone nicer or not?
>
> They are People. And People will be People.
>
> Now, if you want to discuss Governments. They too are composed of
> People. So, be careful. They could accidentally do something nice,
> too!
>
> Sorry, but is is just a silly question. That's like asking are the
> people on the left side of the road any nicer than the people on the
> other side of the road? Are the people at the top of a mountain any
> nicer than the people in the valley?
> Or are they any meaner or happier or sadder?
>
> And remember to be careful of those people on the left side of the
> road, because when you are travelling the other way, they are no
> longer on the left side of the road.
Ahhh...finally some honesty and a breath of fresh air!
--Jean
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I was just wondering if people in Europe are generally nicer than
>>people in America.
>>
>>Thank you.
>
> What an interesting spam question!
> Define 'nicer'!!!!
>
> The people in Europe and America are People just like people in Asia,
> Africa and anywhere else.
>
> As individuals, they are just as nice, stubborn, happy, sad, picky,
> generous, tired, energized, opinionated, open minded, as every where
> else.
> Just as willing to give a glass of water to a person that's hot. Or
> refused you one.
> Just as willing as you are to invite someone to share their picnic. Or
> ignore a beggar.
>
> Why would living in Europe or the Americas make anyone nicer or not?
>
> They are People. And People will be People.
>
> Now, if you want to discuss Governments. They too are composed of
> People. So, be careful. They could accidentally do something nice,
> too!
>
> Sorry, but is is just a silly question. That's like asking are the
> people on the left side of the road any nicer than the people on the
> other side of the road? Are the people at the top of a mountain any
> nicer than the people in the valley?
> Or are they any meaner or happier or sadder?
>
> And remember to be careful of those people on the left side of the
> road, because when you are travelling the other way, they are no
> longer on the left side of the road.
Ahhh...finally some honesty and a breath of fresh air!
--Jean
Jul 9th 2007, 6:00 pm
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Re: people in Europe
Make credence recognised that on Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:50:17 GMT,
[email protected] has scripted:
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>>I was just wondering if people in Europe are generally nicer than
>>people in America.
>>
>>Thank you.
>
>What an interesting spam question!
>Define 'nicer'!!!!
>
>The people in Europe and America are People just like people in Asia,
>Africa and anywhere else.
>
>As individuals, they are just as nice, stubborn, happy, sad, picky,
>generous, tired, energized, opinionated, open minded, as every where
>else.
>Just as willing to give a glass of water to a person that's hot. Or
>refused you one.
>Just as willing as you are to invite someone to share their picnic. Or
>ignore a beggar.
>
>Why would living in Europe or the Americas make anyone nicer or not?
>
>They are People. And People will be People.
And people can sometime be complete arseholes in their collective
groups, or regions. There are parts of Europe where the people are
definitely rotten.
--
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[email protected] has scripted:
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>>I was just wondering if people in Europe are generally nicer than
>>people in America.
>>
>>Thank you.
>
>What an interesting spam question!
>Define 'nicer'!!!!
>
>The people in Europe and America are People just like people in Asia,
>Africa and anywhere else.
>
>As individuals, they are just as nice, stubborn, happy, sad, picky,
>generous, tired, energized, opinionated, open minded, as every where
>else.
>Just as willing to give a glass of water to a person that's hot. Or
>refused you one.
>Just as willing as you are to invite someone to share their picnic. Or
>ignore a beggar.
>
>Why would living in Europe or the Americas make anyone nicer or not?
>
>They are People. And People will be People.
And people can sometime be complete arseholes in their collective
groups, or regions. There are parts of Europe where the people are
definitely rotten.
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--
Jul 9th 2007, 9:10 pm
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In article <[email protected] .com>,
[email protected] wrote:
> I was just wondering if people in Europe are generally nicer than
> people in America.
>
> Thank you.
Generally the range is probably the same. People where? What part of
Europe? Rural? City? Small town? Busy tourist areas? quiet non-tourist
areas? And whether you speak their language or not can make a major
difference. There will likely be more variance between these choices
than between countries.
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admire, and consume books in excess.
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[email protected] wrote:
> I was just wondering if people in Europe are generally nicer than
> people in America.
>
> Thank you.
Generally the range is probably the same. People where? What part of
Europe? Rural? City? Small town? Busy tourist areas? quiet non-tourist
areas? And whether you speak their language or not can make a major
difference. There will likely be more variance between these choices
than between countries.
--
Mary, biblioholic
bib-li-o-hol-ism : the habitual longing to purchase, read, store,
admire, and consume books in excess.
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Jul 9th 2007, 10:02 pm
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erilar ha scritto:
> And whether you speak their language or not can make a major
> difference. There will likely be more variance between these choices
> than between countries.
Absolutely right!
I'm Italian: here (Italy) many people think french people not very
friendly, but my experience is totally different.
I like french people and France, but ... I speak french quite well :-).
Ciao, Piero.
> And whether you speak their language or not can make a major
> difference. There will likely be more variance between these choices
> than between countries.
Absolutely right!
I'm Italian: here (Italy) many people think french people not very
friendly, but my experience is totally different.
I like french people and France, but ... I speak french quite well :-).
Ciao, Piero.
Jul 10th 2007, 6:38 am
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:02:14 +0200, Piero
<[email protected]> wrote:
>erilar ha scritto:
>
>> And whether you speak their language or not can make a major
>> difference. There will likely be more variance between these choices
>> than between countries.
>
>Absolutely right!
>I'm Italian: here (Italy) many people think french people not very
>friendly, but my experience is totally different.
>I like french people and France, but ... I speak french quite well :-).
I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
found the French to be very friendly and helpful. A few years ago I
was in Bayeaux with my elderly aunt, and she got tired while we were
walking so I thought I should probably get a cab to take her back to
the station. It turns out that to get a cab in Bayeaux, you walk to
the station where the cab queue is. There was no number to call a cab.
I asked in a pastry shop and the proprietor, after explaining the
situation to me, took about 5 minutes out of her very busy day to help
me resolve the problem. Of course, I had to buy a box of pastries to
thank her!
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>erilar ha scritto:
>
>> And whether you speak their language or not can make a major
>> difference. There will likely be more variance between these choices
>> than between countries.
>
>Absolutely right!
>I'm Italian: here (Italy) many people think french people not very
>friendly, but my experience is totally different.
>I like french people and France, but ... I speak french quite well :-).
I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
found the French to be very friendly and helpful. A few years ago I
was in Bayeaux with my elderly aunt, and she got tired while we were
walking so I thought I should probably get a cab to take her back to
the station. It turns out that to get a cab in Bayeaux, you walk to
the station where the cab queue is. There was no number to call a cab.
I asked in a pastry shop and the proprietor, after explaining the
situation to me, took about 5 minutes out of her very busy day to help
me resolve the problem. Of course, I had to buy a box of pastries to
thank her!
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Jul 10th 2007, 7:24 am
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Following up to B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
>found the French to be very friendly and helpful.
I dont speak FRench and some french people fixed our car when it
broke down, but they were not Parisian shop assistants.
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>I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
>found the French to be very friendly and helpful.
I dont speak FRench and some french people fixed our car when it
broke down, but they were not Parisian shop assistants.
--
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Jul 10th 2007, 1:38 pm
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:24:16 +0100, The Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
>>found the French to be very friendly and helpful.
>
>I dont speak FRench and some french people fixed our car when it
>broke down, but they were not Parisian shop assistants.
I've also been in Paris and never met any rude shop assistants.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
>>found the French to be very friendly and helpful.
>
>I dont speak FRench and some french people fixed our car when it
>broke down, but they were not Parisian shop assistants.
I've also been in Paris and never met any rude shop assistants.
--
Barbara Vaughan
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Jul 10th 2007, 1:43 pm
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B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:24:16 +0100, The Reid
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
> >>found the French to be very friendly and helpful.
> >
> >I dont speak FRench and some french people fixed our car when it
> >broke down, but they were not Parisian shop assistants.
>
> I've also been in Paris and never met any rude shop assistants.
I met snuffiness in Paris the first few times I've visited, yet, not on
recent visits. I honestly don't know why. It was interesting to read the
post by an Italian (not including yourself) assuming that Parisians
would be rude- I'd always assumed it was an anglophone thing.
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> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:24:16 +0100, The Reid
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
> >>found the French to be very friendly and helpful.
> >
> >I dont speak FRench and some french people fixed our car when it
> >broke down, but they were not Parisian shop assistants.
>
> I've also been in Paris and never met any rude shop assistants.
I met snuffiness in Paris the first few times I've visited, yet, not on
recent visits. I honestly don't know why. It was interesting to read the
post by an Italian (not including yourself) assuming that Parisians
would be rude- I'd always assumed it was an anglophone thing.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 10th 2007, 3:23 pm
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:43:18 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>I met snuffiness in Paris the first few times I've visited, yet, not on
>recent visits. I honestly don't know why. It was interesting to read the
>post by an Italian (not including yourself) assuming that Parisians
>would be rude- I'd always assumed it was an anglophone thing.
Dislike of the French is rampant in Italy. And snottiness is one of
the stereotypes.
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Barbara Vaughan
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>I met snuffiness in Paris the first few times I've visited, yet, not on
>recent visits. I honestly don't know why. It was interesting to read the
>post by an Italian (not including yourself) assuming that Parisians
>would be rude- I'd always assumed it was an anglophone thing.
Dislike of the French is rampant in Italy. And snottiness is one of
the stereotypes.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Jul 10th 2007, 3:30 pm
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B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:43:18 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >I met snuffiness in Paris the first few times I've visited, yet, not on
> >recent visits. I honestly don't know why. It was interesting to read the
> >post by an Italian (not including yourself) assuming that Parisians
> >would be rude- I'd always assumed it was an anglophone thing.
>
> Dislike of the French is rampant in Italy. And snottiness is one of
> the stereotypes.
Which begs the question, why? Maybe there's something in it. I think
that the stereotype of bad British food is very well founded for
example. I'd argue that things have changed a lot, but still, there's a
good reason it's there. Then again, maybe Paris has changed. The influx
of foreigners is probably a good thing!
--
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:43:18 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >I met snuffiness in Paris the first few times I've visited, yet, not on
> >recent visits. I honestly don't know why. It was interesting to read the
> >post by an Italian (not including yourself) assuming that Parisians
> >would be rude- I'd always assumed it was an anglophone thing.
>
> Dislike of the French is rampant in Italy. And snottiness is one of
> the stereotypes.
Which begs the question, why? Maybe there's something in it. I think
that the stereotype of bad British food is very well founded for
example. I'd argue that things have changed a lot, but still, there's a
good reason it's there. Then again, maybe Paris has changed. The influx
of foreigners is probably a good thing!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 10th 2007, 11:01 pm
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Re: people in Europe
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:38:55 +0200, B
Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:24:16 +0100, The Reid
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Following up to B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
>>>found the French to be very friendly and helpful.
>>
>>I dont speak FRench and some french people fixed our car when it
>>broke down, but they were not Parisian shop assistants.
>
>I've also been in Paris and never met any rude shop assistants.
People are people. I had some very ordinary experiences with
female restaurateurs in Languedoc, see
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2006...n-riviera.html
I accept that much of that was caused by my failure to
communicate. And throughout France initial contacts with
hoteliers, bar staff and similar always seemed to be with
people who thought smiling at strangers was dangerous.
However, under the surface were good people. Just one
example. In Paris, we sat at a rickety tiny round table in a
very crowded very busy little cafe and ordered a lunch to be
shared between us. No problems but some dark scowls. I also
ordered a beer and took it to the table. While it was nearly
full I was jostled in the crowd and it was one of those
moments - as the glass hit the stone floor it seemed to
explode, beer and glass all over the place and the entire
hubbub in the place went to a shocked silence as everyone
glared at the culprit. I could have slunk under the table.
Without a word the hostess and host appeared with cloths and
a bucket while I was still trying to apologise. They were
cheerful and brushed off my "pardons" and obvious
embarrassment and acted like it happened all the time. All
smiles and friendliness as they cleaned up. Then the host
reappeared with a fresh beer - and wouldn't accept money for
it. I tried to tip at the end and they wouldn't accept that
either, and smiled as we said au revoir.
People are people. Unless they are female restaurateurs in
Languedoc.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
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Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:24:16 +0100, The Reid
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Following up to B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I, on the other hand, don't speak French very well, and I also have
>>>found the French to be very friendly and helpful.
>>
>>I dont speak FRench and some french people fixed our car when it
>>broke down, but they were not Parisian shop assistants.
>
>I've also been in Paris and never met any rude shop assistants.
People are people. I had some very ordinary experiences with
female restaurateurs in Languedoc, see
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2006...n-riviera.html
I accept that much of that was caused by my failure to
communicate. And throughout France initial contacts with
hoteliers, bar staff and similar always seemed to be with
people who thought smiling at strangers was dangerous.
However, under the surface were good people. Just one
example. In Paris, we sat at a rickety tiny round table in a
very crowded very busy little cafe and ordered a lunch to be
shared between us. No problems but some dark scowls. I also
ordered a beer and took it to the table. While it was nearly
full I was jostled in the crowd and it was one of those
moments - as the glass hit the stone floor it seemed to
explode, beer and glass all over the place and the entire
hubbub in the place went to a shocked silence as everyone
glared at the culprit. I could have slunk under the table.
Without a word the hostess and host appeared with cloths and
a bucket while I was still trying to apologise. They were
cheerful and brushed off my "pardons" and obvious
embarrassment and acted like it happened all the time. All
smiles and friendliness as they cleaned up. Then the host
reappeared with a fresh beer - and wouldn't accept money for
it. I tried to tip at the end and they wouldn't accept that
either, and smiled as we said au revoir.
People are people. Unless they are female restaurateurs in
Languedoc.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
Jul 11th 2007, 6:18 am
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Re: people in Europe
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:01:43 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>People are people. I had some very ordinary experiences with
>female restaurateurs in Languedoc,
A friend of mine moved to Tours, and I paid a visit. We went to a
local restaurant which provided excellent food. He'd ordered in French
(he's a Lebanese Christian and was brought up bilingual
French/Arabic). Anyway, when the waitress came round with the cheese
course, I said to my friend in English "Hmmmmm....I wonder which ones
of these are not sold in the UK - I'll go for the local ones." The
waitress grinned - she'd understood - and proceeded to pile my plate
with truckloads of the stuff.
I've never encountered rudeness in France.
I've taken several tour groups to the Alsace region as part of my
Rhine Cruise work....and again, customers express surprise at how
pleasant everyone seems to be in shops and caf�s. One lady in
particular had been to a pharmacy and the people there had gone to a
lot of effort to make sure she got the correct medication.
They often say: "Wow! I thought the French were supposed to be rude -
these people were great!"
Again, a customer fell over and badly cut their face and were dealt
with speedily and with courtesy at the H�pital Civil in Strasbourg -
they found a couple of cheerful young English-speaking doctors to fix
her up.
Keith, Bristol, UK
>People are people. I had some very ordinary experiences with
>female restaurateurs in Languedoc,
A friend of mine moved to Tours, and I paid a visit. We went to a
local restaurant which provided excellent food. He'd ordered in French
(he's a Lebanese Christian and was brought up bilingual
French/Arabic). Anyway, when the waitress came round with the cheese
course, I said to my friend in English "Hmmmmm....I wonder which ones
of these are not sold in the UK - I'll go for the local ones." The
waitress grinned - she'd understood - and proceeded to pile my plate
with truckloads of the stuff.
I've never encountered rudeness in France.
I've taken several tour groups to the Alsace region as part of my
Rhine Cruise work....and again, customers express surprise at how
pleasant everyone seems to be in shops and caf�s. One lady in
particular had been to a pharmacy and the people there had gone to a
lot of effort to make sure she got the correct medication.
They often say: "Wow! I thought the French were supposed to be rude -
these people were great!"
Again, a customer fell over and badly cut their face and were dealt
with speedily and with courtesy at the H�pital Civil in Strasbourg -
they found a couple of cheerful young English-speaking doctors to fix
her up.
Keith, Bristol, UK
Jul 11th 2007, 8:11 am
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Re: people in Europe
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:01:43 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
> .... And throughout France initial contacts with
>hoteliers, bar staff and similar always seemed to be with
>people who thought smiling at strangers was dangerous.
I'm not a big smiler myself, so I'm not put off by a straight face.
I've noticed that in New York City, people tend to bark and growl, but
they're very quick to help you if you have a problem. On the other
hand, in the southern states of the US, there is an automatic smile
and a question about your wellbeing and a wish that you would see each
other again very soon, but not much real inclination to give you any
help.
>People are people. Unless they are female restaurateurs in
>Languedoc.
I think people are people everywhere. However, certain social
behaviours are learned. I just try not to judge people by their mode
of interaction on first meeting you. That's learned and not very
variable within a given society. I judge them by how they behave when
they see a person that needs help. To a certain extent, that's also
learned, but there is much greater individual variation.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
> .... And throughout France initial contacts with
>hoteliers, bar staff and similar always seemed to be with
>people who thought smiling at strangers was dangerous.
I'm not a big smiler myself, so I'm not put off by a straight face.
I've noticed that in New York City, people tend to bark and growl, but
they're very quick to help you if you have a problem. On the other
hand, in the southern states of the US, there is an automatic smile
and a question about your wellbeing and a wish that you would see each
other again very soon, but not much real inclination to give you any
help.
>People are people. Unless they are female restaurateurs in
>Languedoc.
I think people are people everywhere. However, certain social
behaviours are learned. I just try not to judge people by their mode
of interaction on first meeting you. That's learned and not very
variable within a given society. I judge them by how they behave when
they see a person that needs help. To a certain extent, that's also
learned, but there is much greater individual variation.
--
Barbara Vaughan
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I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Jul 11th 2007, 6:03 pm
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Re: people in Europe
In article <1i11n2y.hf2iu616boalxN%[email protected]>,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:43:18 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> > _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> > Dislike of the French is rampant in Italy. And snottiness is one of
> > the stereotypes.
>
> Which begs the question, why? Maybe there's something in it. I think
> that the stereotype of bad British food is very well founded for
> example. I'd argue that things have changed a lot, but still, there's a
> good reason it's there. Then again, maybe Paris has changed. The influx
> of foreigners is probably a good thing!
Well, outside of Germany or English-speaking countries, my experience
has been limited, but I encountered more rude people in France than
helpful ones(a grand total of one of the latter). I don't recall a
single rude person in Scandinavia, on the other hand.
--
Mary, biblioholic
bib-li-o-hol-ism : the habitual longing to purchase, read, store,
admire, and consume books in excess.
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[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:43:18 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> > _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> > Dislike of the French is rampant in Italy. And snottiness is one of
> > the stereotypes.
>
> Which begs the question, why? Maybe there's something in it. I think
> that the stereotype of bad British food is very well founded for
> example. I'd argue that things have changed a lot, but still, there's a
> good reason it's there. Then again, maybe Paris has changed. The influx
> of foreigners is probably a good thing!
Well, outside of Germany or English-speaking countries, my experience
has been limited, but I encountered more rude people in France than
helpful ones(a grand total of one of the latter). I don't recall a
single rude person in Scandinavia, on the other hand.
--
Mary, biblioholic
bib-li-o-hol-ism : the habitual longing to purchase, read, store,
admire, and consume books in excess.
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo