On 15/06/05 17:42, in article [email protected],
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > So where in the world is it 20DegC all the year around?


In those areas which are considered "paradise", like Polynesia, the
temperatures are fairly constant---

"Temperatures range between 24°C and 30°C all year through and lagoon water
temperature varies between 23°C and 26°C."

Another area which is considered ideal are the Caribbean islands.

"As in the tropics in general, there are no distinct seasons with different
temperatures on the Caribbean Islands, which makes sailing possible all the
year through. The hottest period is from July to December. The average air
temperature is 22 * 30 degrees Celsius with usually high humidity. The
average water temperature is about 27 degrees Celsius."

One measure of the idealness is whether one has to heat, does one sleep with
blankets or is a simple sheet enough? Does one live in an "open air"
situation of essentially open or no windows? Can one sleep outdoors without
discomfort? Are sweaters or coats unnecessary?.

I find the Caribbean is a little hot unless one is on the coast and
the wind is blowing. Cuba is miserable in the summer, really too hot
and too humid, a regular afternoon rain storm around 4PM which leaves
one hotter than before. The main draw back of the Caribbean is the
hurricanes. The water temperatures appear higher than in Polynesia.

Martin writes:

    > So where in the world is it 20DegC all the year around?

In many underground caves.

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:49:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Martin writes:
    >> So where in the world is it 20DegC all the year around?
    >In many underground caves.

15 DegC
--
Martin

    >>It has been awful here in Brisbane. It's meant to be winter but it was
    >>26ºC the other day. Last night it was actually hot like a summer night.
    >>Horrendous.
    >>I am arranging migration to London next year.
    >
    >
    > Horrendous? Were you born in the Antarctic? You should be
    > enjoying the rain today:-)
    >
    >
    > Cheers, Alan, Australia

Yes it was 18ºC yesterday... coldest day in two years.

Earl Evleth wrote:
    > On 15/06/05 14:21, in article [email protected],
    > "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>>If Americans are so efficient, with their air conditioners, why
    >>>has most of the manufacturing been moved to China?
    >>Efficiency and economy are not the same thing.
    >
    >
    > We were talking about productivity. What are the Americans
    > producing, exactly? Only about 10% of the total labor now
    > is involved in manufacturing, 90% into services. A nation
    > of hamburger flippers.
    >
Boy! you're a real ex-pat ain't yer!

On 16/06/05 10:31, in article [email protected], "Mike
O'Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> We were talking about productivity. What are the Americans
    >> producing, exactly? Only about 10% of the total labor now
    >> is involved in manufacturing, 90% into services. A nation
    >> of hamburger flippers.
    >>
    > Boy! you're a real ex-pat ain't yer!


The same drop in manufacturering jobs is occurring in Europe
and in particular, France. Here they flip crepes.

Earl