Paris scam question?

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 10:37 am
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Markinbelfast
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I was in Paris last week and was approached by a number of Japanese tourists
outside Louis Vitton...they said that they wanted to buy some bags but they
were limited to one per person of some limited edition bag...they then
produced wads of cash..I mean wads over 1000 euros.....they asked us if we
would buy the bags for them....is this some sort of scam or are we just to
untrusting?
 
Old Oct 7th 2002, 11:04 am
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It is either a scam or the result of a scam.

Louis Vuitton has supposedly had problems in the past with unscrupulous
individuals and groups using their goods for money-laundering schemes, and
using unsuspecting Asian tourists as intermediaries. As a result, the
stores have set some limits on how much they will sell and on means of
payment, and other things (as I understand it). So the Japanese tourists
who approched you were either part of the scam and were thus limited by the
store's policies (which they may or may not have realized), or they were
innocent and just happened to get stuck by the policies because their own
buying intentions or payment methods ran afoul of them.

Either way, I suggest that you decline their request. Even if they are
perfectly innocent, I can understand why the store would want to limit sales
of a limited-edition bag ... it's not very fair for one small group of
people to buy all the bags.

I personally do not understand the appeal of Louis Vuitton products, but
they are hugely popular with visiting tourists from the Orient, especially
Chinese and Japanese tourists. They don't seem to be much of a big deal for
Europeans or Americans, though.

"MarkinBelfast" a écrit dans le message de news:
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    > I was in Paris last week and was approached by a number of Japanese
tourists
    > outside Louis Vitton...they said that they wanted to buy some bags but
they
    > were limited to one per person of some limited edition bag...they then
    > produced wads of cash..I mean wads over 1000 euros.....they asked us if we
    > would buy the bags for them....is this some sort of scam or are we just to
    > untrusting?
 
Old Oct 7th 2002, 12:23 pm
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They should come over to New York. With our new Mayor Bloomberg the street
vendors from West Africa hawk fake Vuitton, Hermes, Chanel, Rolex etc. It's
getting as bad as it was during the Dinkins regime.

btw, I don't think that it is going to end happily for Bloomberg until he
gets the "quality of life" crimes back down.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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...
    > It is either a scam or the result of a scam.
    > Louis Vuitton has supposedly had problems in the past with unscrupulous
    > individuals and groups using their goods for money-laundering schemes, and
    > using unsuspecting Asian tourists as intermediaries. As a result, the
    > stores have set some limits on how much they will sell and on means of
    > payment, and other things (as I understand it). So the Japanese tourists
    > who approched you were either part of the scam and were thus limited by
the
    > store's policies (which they may or may not have realized), or they were
    > innocent and just happened to get stuck by the policies because their own
    > buying intentions or payment methods ran afoul of them.
    > Either way, I suggest that you decline their request. Even if they are
    > perfectly innocent, I can understand why the store would want to limit
sales
    > of a limited-edition bag ... it's not very fair for one small group of
    > people to buy all the bags.
    > I personally do not understand the appeal of Louis Vuitton products, but
    > they are hugely popular with visiting tourists from the Orient, especially
    > Chinese and Japanese tourists. They don't seem to be much of a big deal
for
    > Europeans or Americans, though.
    > "MarkinBelfast" a écrit dans le message de news:
    > [email protected]...
    > > I was in Paris last week and was approached by a number of Japanese
    > tourists
    > > outside Louis Vitton...they said that they wanted to buy some bags but
    > they
    > > were limited to one per person of some limited edition bag...they then
    > > produced wads of cash..I mean wads over 1000 euros.....they asked us if
we
    > > would buy the bags for them....is this some sort of scam or are we just
to
    > > untrusting?
    > >
    > >
 
Old Oct 7th 2002, 12:58 pm
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Originally posted by John Walton:
They should come over to New York. With our new Mayor Bloomberg the street
vendors from West Africa hawk fake Vuitton, Hermes, Chanel, Rolex etc. It's
getting as bad as it was during the Dinkins regime.

btw, I don't think that it is going to end happily for Bloomberg until he
gets the "quality of life" crimes back down.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
news:VcSdnaw7ybfW9zygXTWcog@New-
s.GigaNews.Com
...
    > It is either a scam or the result of a scam.
    > Louis Vuitton has supposedly had problems in the past with unscrupulous
    > individuals and groups using their goods for money-laundering schemes, and
    > using unsuspecting Asian tourists as intermediaries. As a result, the
    > stores have set some limits on how much they will sell and on means of
    > payment, and other things (as I understand it). So the Japanese tourists
    > who approched you were either part of the scam and were thus limited by
the
    > store's policies (which they may or may not have realized), or they were
    > innocent and just happened to get stuck by the policies because their own
    > buying intentions or payment methods ran afoul of them.
    > Either way, I suggest that you decline their request. Even if they are
    > perfectly innocent, I can understand why the store would want to limit
sales
    > of a limited-edition bag ... it's not very fair for one small group of
    > people to buy all the bags.
    > I personally do not understand the appeal of Louis Vuitton products, but
    > they are hugely popular with visiting tourists from the Orient, especially
    > Chinese and Japanese tourists. They don't seem to be much of a big deal
for
    > Europeans or Americans, though.
    > "MarkinBelfast" a écrit dans le message de news:
    > [email protected]...
    > > I was in Paris last week and was approached by a number of Japanese
    > tourists
    > > outside Louis Vitton...they said that they wanted to buy some bags but
    > they
    > > were limited to one per person of some limited edition bag...they then
    > > produced wads of cash..I mean wads over 1000 euros.....they asked us if
we
    > > would buy the bags for them....is this some sort of scam or are we just
to
    > > untrusting?
    > >
    > >






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Old Oct 7th 2002, 1:38 pm
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On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:23:53 -0400, "john walton"
wrote:

    >They should come over to New York. With our new Mayor Bloomberg the street
    >vendors from West Africa hawk fake Vuitton, Hermes, Chanel, Rolex etc. It's
    >getting as bad as it was during the Dinkins regime.
    >btw, I don't think that it is going to end happily for Bloomberg until he
    >gets the "quality of life" crimes back down.
I don't mind the street vendors. They sell good cheap socks
and watches. Everyone knows the bags are fakes, so no problem.
 
Old Oct 7th 2002, 2:19 pm
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MarkinBelfast wrote:
    > I was in Paris last week and was approached by a number of Japanese tourists
    > outside Louis Vitton...they said that they wanted to buy some bags but they
    > were limited to one per person of some limited edition bag...they then
    > produced wads of cash..I mean wads over 1000 euros.....they asked us if we
    > would buy the bags for them....is this some sort of scam or are we just to
    > untrusting?

Others may have more detailed information, but I believe I have seen
reports that the people in question are not "tourists" but people
attempting to find accomplices in passing counterfeit notes.


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Old Oct 7th 2002, 3:37 pm
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john walton wrote:
    > They should come over to New York. With our new Mayor Bloomberg the
    > street vendors from West Africa hawk fake Vuitton, Hermes, Chanel, Rolex
    > etc. It's getting as bad as it was during the Dinkins regime.

One of the great things about New York is the informal sidewalk economy.

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 3:52 pm
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In article ,
[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:

    > john walton wrote:
    > > They should come over to New York. With our new Mayor Bloomberg the
    > > street vendors from West Africa hawk fake Vuitton, Hermes, Chanel, Rolex
    > > etc. It's getting as bad as it was during the Dinkins regime.
    > One of the great things about New York is the informal sidewalk economy.
    > miguel

For who, not the hard working store owner that pays for a license and
collects taxes for, among others, the Social Services you feel the city
is compelled to provide.

jay
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Old Oct 7th 2002, 4:04 pm
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On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, "MarkinBelfast" wrote:

    > I was in Paris last week and was approached by a number of Japanese
    > tourists outside Louis Vitton...they said that they wanted to buy some
    > bags but they were limited to one per person of some limited edition
    > bag...they then produced wads of cash..I mean wads over 1000
    > euros.....they asked us if we would buy the bags for them....is this
    > some sort of scam or are we just to untrusting?

Apparently there's a huge demand for these bags in Japan, and Louis
Vuitton keeps the prices high by deliberately limiting the supply. I've
heard that some Japanese companies hire people to go to all the Louis
Vuitton stores in Europe and buy as many bags as possible.

Therefore, I don't think that this was a scam. The Japanese wanted to
buy more bags than Louis Vuitton wanted to sell to them, but there's
nothing illegal about that.

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 4:12 pm
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Go Fig wrote:
    > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
    >> john walton wrote:
    >>> They should come over to New York. With our new Mayor Bloomberg the
    >>> street vendors from West Africa hawk fake Vuitton, Hermes, Chanel, Rolex
    >>> etc. It's getting as bad as it was during the Dinkins regime.
    >> One of the great things about New York is the informal sidewalk economy.
    > For who, not the hard working store owner that pays for a license and
    > collects taxes for, among others, the Social Services you feel the city
    > is compelled to provide.

They're competing for entirely different market segments. And I see plenty
of store owners not ringing things up on their registers.

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 4:27 pm
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In article , "Mxsmanic"
wrote:

    > I personally do not understand the appeal of Louis Vuitton products, but
    > they are hugely popular with visiting tourists from the Orient, especially
    > Chinese and Japanese tourists. They don't seem to be much of a big deal for
    > Europeans or Americans, though.

Well someone must be buying all the knock offs I see for sale in the streets
of NYC. Hmmm, I see people carrying them as well.

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 4:35 pm
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In article ,
[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:

    > Go Fig wrote:
    > > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
    > >> john walton wrote:
    > >>> They should come over to New York. With our new Mayor Bloomberg the
    > >>> street vendors from West Africa hawk fake Vuitton, Hermes, Chanel, Rolex
    > >>> etc. It's getting as bad as it was during the Dinkins regime.
    > >>
    > >> One of the great things about New York is the informal sidewalk economy.
    > >
    > > For who, not the hard working store owner that pays for a license and
    > > collects taxes for, among others, the Social Services you feel the city
    > > is compelled to provide.
    > They're competing for entirely different market segments.

Really, so the guys on 14th Street that are selling batteries and the
stores they are in front of are selling Rolls Royce cars ?


    > And I see plenty
    > of store owners not ringing things up on their registers.

So what... not a legal requirement to use a register.

jay
Mon, Oct 7, 2002
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    > miguel

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 5:11 pm
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Go Fig wrote:
    > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
    >>>> One of the great things about New York is the informal sidewalk economy.
    >>> For who, not the hard working store owner that pays for a license and
    >>> collects taxes for, among others, the Social Services you feel the city
    >>> is compelled to provide.
    >> They're competing for entirely different market segments.
    > Really, so the guys on 14th Street that are selling batteries and the
    > stores they are in front of are selling Rolls Royce cars ?

Dunno, I mainly see people selling crappy t-shirts and obviously fake
jewelry.

    >> And I see plenty of store owners not ringing things up on their
    >> registers.
    > So what... not a legal requirement to use a register.

If someone has a register and only uses it for half the transactions, you
can pretty reliably conclude it's because they're underreporting their
taxes.

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 7:40 pm
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"bux" a écrit dans le message de news:
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    > Well someone must be buying all the knock offs
    > I see for sale in the streets of NYC.

Maybe that's why they aren't buying them in Paris. The knock-offs look the
same and are much lower in price, and often aren't any different in quality.
 
Old Oct 7th 2002, 10:37 pm
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Go Fig wrote:
    > >
    > > One of the great things about New York is the informal sidewalk economy.
    > >
    > > miguel
    > For who, not the hard working store owner that pays for a license and
    > collects taxes for, among others, the Social Services you feel the city
    > is compelled to provide.

Are the sidewalk vendors not required to have permits? If
not, why do I see policemen regularly ignoring them, instead
of making them pack up and move on?
    > jay
    > Mon, Oct 7, 2002
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