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Old Jun 7th 2005 | 2:12 am
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Martin
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I noticed that the BBC TV News used the term "surrender monkeys" in
the context of the Paris bid. Has somebody from BBC News been reading
this group?
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Old Jun 7th 2005 | 3:02 am
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On 7/06/05 16:12, in article [email protected],
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I noticed that the BBC TV News used the term "surrender monkeys" in
    > the context of the Paris bid. Has somebody from BBC News been reading
    > this group?
    > --
    > Martin


The Wall Street Journal only mentioned that the French have a slight lead.

New York is having political problems, the State Legislature won't pass
funds building a new stadium. Moscow was criticized because its dossier is
sloppy. The British bookmakers side with the Parisian bid.

The French appear to really want it badly

It reminds me of -----

Abe Lincoln once told a story about a man who was tarred and feathered and
being rode out of town tied to a rail. Someone asked him how he liked it and
the poor unfortunate replied, "If it wasn't for the honor of this position
I'd just as soon forego the whole thing."
 
Old Jun 7th 2005 | 6:54 am
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"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On 7/06/05 16:12, in article [email protected],
    > "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> I noticed that the BBC TV News used the term "surrender monkeys" in
    >> the context of the Paris bid. Has somebody from BBC News been reading
    >> this group?
    >> --
    >> Martin
    > The Wall Street Journal only mentioned that the French have a slight lead.
    > New York is having political problems, the State Legislature won't pass
    > funds building a new stadium. Moscow was criticized because its dossier
    > is
    > sloppy. The British bookmakers side with the Parisian bid.
    > The French appear to really want it badly

well they have bid and lost twice before.

This seems to be the way that it goes. Quite why London seems to
think that it should win first time (and won't have another chance if
it doesn't) is beyond me. When was the last time a first time bid
won against sensible opposition?

tim
 
Old Jun 7th 2005 | 6:59 am
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In article <[email protected]>, moved to sweden\
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:BECB83BE.69E25%[email protected]...
    > > On 7/06/05 16:12, in article [email protected],
    > > "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I noticed that the BBC TV News used the term "surrender monkeys" in
    > >> the context of the Paris bid. Has somebody from BBC News been reading
    > >> this group?
    > >> --
    > >> Martin
    > >
    > >
    > > The Wall Street Journal only mentioned that the French have a slight lead.
    > >
    > > New York is having political problems, the State Legislature won't pass
    > > funds building a new stadium. Moscow was criticized because its dossier
    > > is
    > > sloppy. The British bookmakers side with the Parisian bid.
    > >
    > > The French appear to really want it badly
    >
    > well they have bid and lost twice before.

They had quite a few turn out this last weekend on the Champs in
support of the bid.

jay
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    >
    > This seems to be the way that it goes. Quite why London seems to
    > think that it should win first time (and won't have another chance if
    > it doesn't) is beyond me. When was the last time a first time bid
    > won against sensible opposition?
    >
    > tim
    >
 
Old Jun 7th 2005 | 7:01 am
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"tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:BECB83BE.69E25%[email protected]...
    >> On 7/06/05 16:12, in article [email protected],
    >> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> I noticed that the BBC TV News used the term "surrender monkeys" in
    >>> the context of the Paris bid. Has somebody from BBC News been reading
    >>> this group?
    >>> --
    >>> Martin
    >> The Wall Street Journal only mentioned that the French have a slight
    >> lead.
    >> New York is having political problems, the State Legislature won't pass
    >> funds building a new stadium. Moscow was criticized because its dossier
    >> is
    >> sloppy. The British bookmakers side with the Parisian bid.
    >> The French appear to really want it badly
    > well they have bid and lost twice before.
    > This seems to be the way that it goes. Quite why London seems to
    > think that it should win first time (and won't have another chance if
    > it doesn't) is beyond me. When was the last time a first time bid
    > won against sensible opposition?
    > tim

Atlanta 1996? Other candidates were Athens, Toronto, Belgrade, Melbourne and
Manchester.

JohnT
 
Old Jun 7th 2005 | 11:58 am
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Martin wrote:

    > I noticed that the BBC TV News used the term "surrender monkeys" in
    > the context of the Paris bid. Has somebody from BBC News been reading
    > this group?

That would surprise me. The British fought alongside the French in WW I
and saw how they stood up to the German invasion, holding a large portion
of the line throughout the war and suffering millions of casualties.
They fought alongside them in the expeditionary force at the beginning of
WW II and retreated along with the French to Dunkirk.
 
Old Jun 7th 2005 | 2:23 pm
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Go Fig writes:

    > They had quite a few turn out this last weekend on the Champs in
    > support of the bid.

You should not assume that those who turned out were supporting the bid.
It was simply a Major Media Event, and those always attract people.

Paris has probably already spent more trying to attract the Olympics
than most venues would spend hosting them. I don't understand why the
powers that be are so hellbent on having the Olympics. Someone,
somewhere must stand to profit obscenely from the games if the bid is
being pushed this hard.

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Old Jun 7th 2005 | 2:28 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:

    > You should not assume that those who turned out were supporting the bid.
    > It was simply a Major Media Event, and those always attract people.
    > Paris has probably already spent more trying to attract the Olympics
    > than most venues would spend hosting them. I don't understand why the
    > powers that be are so hellbent on having the Olympics. Someone,
    > somewhere must stand to profit obscenely from the games if the bid is
    > being pushed this hard.

After the decision to send the 2008 <?> games to China, a purely political
move, I don't know why anyone city would even bother to try.
 
Old Jun 7th 2005 | 3:18 pm
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In article <[email protected]>,
Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

    > After the decision to send the 2008 <?> games to China, a purely political
    > move, I don't know why anyone city would even bother to try.

Might help the unemployment rate for period of time. People will have to
have some of the needed skill to help build the venues that need to be
built.

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Old Jun 7th 2005 | 3:38 pm
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Nancy Kay writes:

    > Might help the unemployment rate for period of time. People will have to
    > have some of the needed skill to help build the venues that need to be
    > built.

Extremely temporary, and not enough to compensate for the cost.

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Old Jun 7th 2005 | 8:00 pm
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Nancy Kay writes:
    > > Might help the unemployment rate for period of time. People will have to
    > > have some of the needed skill to help build the venues that need to be
    > > built.
    > Extremely temporary, and not enough to compensate for the cost.

And they will probably use cheap imported labour from eastern Europe not the
expensive French workers.
 
Old Jun 7th 2005 | 8:10 pm
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On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:00:25 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> Nancy Kay writes:
    >> > Might help the unemployment rate for period of time. People will have to
    >> > have some of the needed skill to help build the venues that need to be
    >> > built.
    >> Extremely temporary, and not enough to compensate for the cost.
    >And they will probably use cheap imported labour from eastern Europe not the
    >expensive French workers.

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Old Jun 7th 2005 | 9:44 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Go Fig writes:
    >
    > > They had quite a few turn out this last weekend on the Champs in
    > > support of the bid.
    >
    > You should not assume that those who turned out were supporting the bid.
[]

You don't need to. The polls clearly show that a large majority of
Parisians (and French) support the bid.

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Old Jun 7th 2005 | 11:18 pm
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Go Fig a écrit :

    > They had quite a few turn out this last weekend on the Champs in
    > support of the bid.

One of them was me - by accident. I went to the cinema on Champs
Elysees, and left home a bit early thinking I'd have a quiet coffee and
buy a new salt mill at the Peugeot showroom (!!) Imagine my surprise to
find the place absolutely mobbed by millions of people!!
 
Old Jun 8th 2005 | 12:38 am
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On 8 Jun 2005 04:18:45 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >Go Fig a écrit :
    >> They had quite a few turn out this last weekend on the Champs in
    >> support of the bid.
    >One of them was me - by accident. I went to the cinema on Champs
    >Elysees, and left home a bit early thinking I'd have a quiet coffee and
    >buy a new salt mill at the Peugeot showroom (!!) Imagine my surprise to
    >find the place absolutely mobbed by millions of people!!

You should have bought a Peugeot from a salt mill in Silesia.
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