On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:54:18 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >The Reids writes:
    >> only last two weeks are cold.
    >Even the last two weeks have not been especially cold. I recall
    >temperatures of -14 degrees Celsius in some years past.

I recall them happening in France this year.
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:55:31 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram writes:
    >> There was film of French channel port yacht's capsized by the weight
    >> of ice in the rigging on France 2.
    >All you need for that is temperatures below freezing, and rain.

The boats capsized because they were covered in a very thick layer of
frozen sea water.

When was the last time a boat capsized in a channel port as the
result of freezing rain?
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:00:03 +0100, nitram wrote:

    > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:33:53 +0100, Tim Challenger
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:55:31 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>> nitram writes:
    >>>
    >>>> There was film of French channel port yacht's capsized by the weight
    >>>> of ice in the rigging on France 2.
    >>>
    >>> All you need for that is temperatures below freezing, and rain.
    >>You don't know much about "Eisregen" as the Germans call it then?
    >
    > All Mixi needs to know was that it was seawater that froze onto the
    > boats. Of course without a TV he wouldn't know that along with many
    > other things.

Sea water? That's even worse. Brrr!
For seawater to freeze on a boat, you need the boat to be bloody cold first
;-) That's a different fridge of fish.

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nitram <[email protected]> writes:

    > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:33:53 +0100, Tim Challenger
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:55:31 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
    > >
    > >> nitram writes:
    > >>
    > >>> There was film of French channel port yacht's capsized by the weight
    > >>> of ice in the rigging on France 2.
    > >>
    > >> All you need for that is temperatures below freezing, and rain.
    > >
    > >You don't know much about "Eisregen" as the Germans call it then?
    >
    > All Mixi needs to know was that it was seawater that froze onto the
    > boats. Of course without a TV he wouldn't know that along with many
    > other things.

News, in particular, is handled better by both radio and print media.

Des
doesn't have a TV, either

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:30:59 +0100, nitram wrote:

    > When was the last time a boat capsized in a channel port as the
    > result of freezing rain?

I don't know about channel ports but a similar thing happened on Lake
Geneva in January, when we were having a heat-wave.
http://www.pbase.com/scherrer/image/39174556

The story goes it took one bloke 4 hours to get enough ice off his car that
he could open the door. Then another 7 hours to clear it enough to drive it
away.

There's a whole collection of photos and some links here:
http://www.dada.at/andreas/addedValuesPI/stories/storyReader$383

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On 10 Mar 2005 14:39:51 +0000, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram <[email protected]> writes:
    >> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:33:53 +0100, Tim Challenger
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:55:31 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> nitram writes:
    >> >>
    >> >>> There was film of French channel port yacht's capsized by the weight
    >> >>> of ice in the rigging on France 2.
    >> >>
    >> >> All you need for that is temperatures below freezing, and rain.
    >> >
    >> >You don't know much about "Eisregen" as the Germans call it then?
    >>
    >> All Mixi needs to know was that it was seawater that froze onto the
    >> boats. Of course without a TV he wouldn't know that along with many
    >> other things.
    >News, in particular, is handled better by both radio and print media.

In this case apparently not.
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Martin

nitram <[email protected]> writes:

    > On 10 Mar 2005 14:39:51 +0000, Des Small <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >nitram <[email protected]> writes:
    > >
    > >> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:33:53 +0100, Tim Challenger
    > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:55:31 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> nitram writes:
    > >> >>
    > >> >>> There was film of French channel port yacht's capsized by the weight
    > >> >>> of ice in the rigging on France 2.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> All you need for that is temperatures below freezing, and rain.
    > >> >
    > >> >You don't know much about "Eisregen" as the Germans call it then?
    > >>
    > >> All Mixi needs to know was that it was seawater that froze onto the
    > >> boats. Of course without a TV he wouldn't know that along with many
    > >> other things.
    > >
    > >News, in particular, is handled better by both radio and print media.
    >
    > In this case apparently not.

You're quite sure the media are at fault, not Mixi? Do you want a
competitively priced bridge with that?

Des

On 2005-03-10 14:41:18 +0100, S Viemeister <[email protected]> said:

    > nitram wrote:
    >>
    >> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 22:27:47 +0000, [email protected]
    >> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
    >>
    >>> The Rev Gaston <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> []
    >>>> Or August, if you live in Scotland.
    >>>
    >>> August is when it starts getting cold again!
    >>
    >> Again? It never gets warm :-)
    >>
    > Actually, we've been considering installing air-conditioning...
    >
    > Sheila, on the northwest coast of Scotland.

I recommend you start with a window.

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nitram writes:

    > All Mixi needs to know was that it was seawater that froze onto the
    > boats.

How did seawater climb onto the rigging?

In any case, the freezing point of seawater is just above -2 degrees
Celsius ... hardly different from that of freshwater.

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nitram writes:

    > The boats capsized because they were covered in a very thick layer of
    > frozen sea water.
    >
    > When was the last time a boat capsized in a channel port as the
    > result of freezing rain?

This happened not long ago on Lake Geneva. Freezing rain and
freshwater.

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:50:15 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram writes:
    >> All Mixi needs to know was that it was seawater that froze onto the
    >> boats.
    >How did seawater climb onto the rigging?

A stupid question even by your standards.


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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:51:42 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram writes:
    >> The boats capsized because they were covered in a very thick layer of
    >> frozen sea water.
    >>
    >> When was the last time a boat capsized in a channel port as the
    >> result of freezing rain?
    >This happened not long ago on Lake Geneva. Freezing rain and
    >freshwater.

How long has Lake Geneva been a channel port?
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nitram writes:

    > A stupid question even by your standards.

Then it should be easy to answer. I don't see an answer, though.

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nitram writes:

    > How long has Lake Geneva been a channel port?

Why does it have to be a channel port? Are boats magically protected
from capsizing there?

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The Rev Gaston wrote:
    >
    > I recommend you start with a window.
    >
We have lovely windows.
With the midge-netting I've installed, it's actually possible to keep the
windows open in the evening.
But sometimes, even windows and electric fans don't do the job.
The house faces south, and has large windows. Even with the curtains
closed against the sun, it can get quite uncomfortably hot.

Sheila