Paris Fare Zone Map?
May 1st 2003 | 8:17 am
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Re: Paris Fare Zone Map?
On Thu, 01 May 2003 20:53:13 GMT, "Happenstance"
wrote:
>Is there a web link to a map that shows what lies within the eight fare
>zones of Paris?
http://www.citefutee.com/picts/plans...eaux/zones.gif
The RATP site used to have some fine maps and was easy to use.
Now they've gone to this citefutee thing and kept it in French
and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
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wrote:
>Is there a web link to a map that shows what lies within the eight fare
>zones of Paris?
http://www.citefutee.com/picts/plans...eaux/zones.gif
The RATP site used to have some fine maps and was easy to use.
Now they've gone to this citefutee thing and kept it in French
and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
May 1st 2003 | 8:53 am
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Paris Fare Zone Map?
Is there a web link to a map that shows what lies within the eight fare
zones of Paris?
zones of Paris?
May 1st 2003 | 9:02 am
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Re: Paris Fare Zone Map?
On Thu, 1 May 2003 23:35:14 +0200, "Mxsmanic"
wrote:
>"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
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>> The RATP site used to have some fine maps
>> and was easy to use. Now they've gone to
>> this citefutee thing and kept it in French
>> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
>The PDF is still there. You can reach it from a link above the GIF version.
There used to be a whole series of PDF maps. I've actually
downloaded them.
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected]...
>> The RATP site used to have some fine maps
>> and was easy to use. Now they've gone to
>> this citefutee thing and kept it in French
>> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
>The PDF is still there. You can reach it from a link above the GIF version.
There used to be a whole series of PDF maps. I've actually
downloaded them.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
May 1st 2003 | 9:09 am
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Re: Paris Fare Zone Map?
On Thu, 01 May 2003 21:36:55 GMT, [email protected] (Mark Brader)
wrote:
>>> Is there a web link to a map that shows what lies within the eight fare
>>> zones of Paris?
>> http://www.citefutee.com/picts/plans...eaux/zones.gif
>>
>> The RATP site used to have some fine maps and was easy to use.
>> Now they've gone to this citefutee thing and kept it in French
>> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
>But change "gif" to "pdf" in *both places* in the above URL, and
>guess what you get.
Oh. That's better. But I have, in the past, downloaded several
varieties of PDF maps.
>Also, if you start at http://www.ratp.fr, select "English", obey the
>text in the first paragraph by selecting the PARIS VISITE link for
>maps, then select the diagonal word "Maps" at the top of the page,
>and finally select "Zone map", you get
> http://www.ratp.fr/ParisVisite/Image...eaux/zones.pdf
Argh. Tht's what I mean about making the pages harder to use. Why
should I have to click on an anchor for a pass I don't want to
get maps I do?
I guess there is a little note up there that says to do it.
(mumble, mumble)
Okay, takes you to
http://www.ratp.fr/ParisVisite/Eng/Pla_q/f_pla.htm which is what
you really want, and is the same old maps page as before, but now
in a new place. I think.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>>> Is there a web link to a map that shows what lies within the eight fare
>>> zones of Paris?
>> http://www.citefutee.com/picts/plans...eaux/zones.gif
>>
>> The RATP site used to have some fine maps and was easy to use.
>> Now they've gone to this citefutee thing and kept it in French
>> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
>But change "gif" to "pdf" in *both places* in the above URL, and
>guess what you get.
Oh. That's better. But I have, in the past, downloaded several
varieties of PDF maps.
>Also, if you start at http://www.ratp.fr, select "English", obey the
>text in the first paragraph by selecting the PARIS VISITE link for
>maps, then select the diagonal word "Maps" at the top of the page,
>and finally select "Zone map", you get
> http://www.ratp.fr/ParisVisite/Image...eaux/zones.pdf
Argh. Tht's what I mean about making the pages harder to use. Why
should I have to click on an anchor for a pass I don't want to
get maps I do?
I guess there is a little note up there that says to do it.
(mumble, mumble)
Okay, takes you to
http://www.ratp.fr/ParisVisite/Eng/Pla_q/f_pla.htm which is what
you really want, and is the same old maps page as before, but now
in a new place. I think.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
May 1st 2003 | 9:35 am
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Re: Paris Fare Zone Map?
"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> The RATP site used to have some fine maps
> and was easy to use. Now they've gone to
> this citefutee thing and kept it in French
> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
The PDF is still there. You can reach it from a link above the GIF version.
[email protected]...
> The RATP site used to have some fine maps
> and was easy to use. Now they've gone to
> this citefutee thing and kept it in French
> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
The PDF is still there. You can reach it from a link above the GIF version.
May 1st 2003 | 9:36 am
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>> Is there a web link to a map that shows what lies within the eight fare
>> zones of Paris?
> http://www.citefutee.com/picts/plans...eaux/zones.gif
>
> The RATP site used to have some fine maps and was easy to use.
> Now they've gone to this citefutee thing and kept it in French
> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
But change "gif" to "pdf" in *both places* in the above URL, and
guess what you get.
Also, if you start at http://www.ratp.fr, select "English", obey the
text in the first paragraph by selecting the PARIS VISITE link for
maps, then select the diagonal word "Maps" at the top of the page,
and finally select "Zone map", you get
http://www.ratp.fr/ParisVisite/Image...eaux/zones.pdf
The "Maps" web page also offers GIF versions, but you need JavaScript
enabled to get to them, I think.
I have not attempted to compare the two PDF versions of the map to
see if there are differences in content as well as presentation style.
--
Mark Brader ...the scariest words of the afternoon:
Toronto "Hey, don't worry, I've read all about
[email protected] doing this sort of thing!" -- Vernor Vinge
My text in this article is in the public domain.
>> zones of Paris?
> http://www.citefutee.com/picts/plans...eaux/zones.gif
>
> The RATP site used to have some fine maps and was easy to use.
> Now they've gone to this citefutee thing and kept it in French
> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
But change "gif" to "pdf" in *both places* in the above URL, and
guess what you get.
Also, if you start at http://www.ratp.fr, select "English", obey the
text in the first paragraph by selecting the PARIS VISITE link for
maps, then select the diagonal word "Maps" at the top of the page,
and finally select "Zone map", you get
http://www.ratp.fr/ParisVisite/Image...eaux/zones.pdf
The "Maps" web page also offers GIF versions, but you need JavaScript
enabled to get to them, I think.
I have not attempted to compare the two PDF versions of the map to
see if there are differences in content as well as presentation style.
--
Mark Brader ...the scariest words of the afternoon:
Toronto "Hey, don't worry, I've read all about
[email protected] doing this sort of thing!" -- Vernor Vinge
My text in this article is in the public domain.
May 1st 2003 | 9:37 am
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Re: Paris Fare Zone Map?
If my RER stop (Malesherbes) is beyond the carte orange zone, how and when
do I pay the extra tariff?
"Hatunen" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 01 May 2003 20:53:13 GMT, "Happenstance"
> wrote:
> >Is there a web link to a map that shows what lies within the eight fare
> >zones of Paris?
> >
> http://www.citefutee.com/picts/plans...eaux/zones.gif
> The RATP site used to have some fine maps and was easy to use.
> Now they've gone to this citefutee thing and kept it in French
> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
do I pay the extra tariff?
"Hatunen" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 01 May 2003 20:53:13 GMT, "Happenstance"
> wrote:
> >Is there a web link to a map that shows what lies within the eight fare
> >zones of Paris?
> >
> http://www.citefutee.com/picts/plans...eaux/zones.gif
> The RATP site used to have some fine maps and was easy to use.
> Now they've gone to this citefutee thing and kept it in French
> and put up crappy GIF maps instead of PDF.
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
May 1st 2003 | 6:40 pm
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"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> There used to be a whole series of PDF maps.
> I've actually downloaded them.
I know. They weren't even locked PDFs. I seem to recall telling them this;
maybe they listened.
In any case, in response to the original poster's question, there _is_ a map
specifically of the fare zones available on the site.
[email protected]...
> There used to be a whole series of PDF maps.
> I've actually downloaded them.
I know. They weren't even locked PDFs. I seem to recall telling them this;
maybe they listened.
In any case, in response to the original poster's question, there _is_ a map
specifically of the fare zones available on the site.
May 1st 2003 | 6:41 pm
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"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Argh. Tht's what I mean about making the pages
> harder to use. Why should I have to click on an
> anchor for a pass I don't want to get maps I do?
Because it's a French site. Most French Web sites are overly complicated,
difficult to navigate, and rely far too much on client-side scripting and
ActiveX components like Flash.
[email protected]...
> Argh. Tht's what I mean about making the pages
> harder to use. Why should I have to click on an
> anchor for a pass I don't want to get maps I do?
Because it's a French site. Most French Web sites are overly complicated,
difficult to navigate, and rely far too much on client-side scripting and
ActiveX components like Flash.
May 1st 2003 | 6:42 pm
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"Happenstance" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> If my RER stop (Malesherbes) is beyond the carte
> orange zone, how and when do I pay the extra tariff?
You buy a specific ticket for that zone at the beginning of your trip.
[email protected]...
> If my RER stop (Malesherbes) is beyond the carte
> orange zone, how and when do I pay the extra tariff?
You buy a specific ticket for that zone at the beginning of your trip.
May 2nd 2003 | 1:12 am
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Happenstance wrote:
> If my RER stop (Malesherbes) is beyond the carte orange zone, how and when
> do I pay the extra tariff?
You don't. You pay for a full ticket from your origin to your destination. Or,
you get a carte orange coupon that includes the zone your stop is at. You can
also upgrade a coupon to add additional zones.
Larry
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> If my RER stop (Malesherbes) is beyond the carte orange zone, how and when
> do I pay the extra tariff?
You don't. You pay for a full ticket from your origin to your destination. Or,
you get a carte orange coupon that includes the zone your stop is at. You can
also upgrade a coupon to add additional zones.
Larry
--
Larry Finch
N 40° 53' 47"
W 74° 03' 56"
May 2nd 2003 | 3:08 am
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In article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:
> "Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
> > Argh. Tht's what I mean about making the pages
> > harder to use. Why should I have to click on an
> > anchor for a pass I don't want to get maps I do?
>
> Because it's a French site. Most French Web sites are overly complicated,
> difficult to navigate, and rely far too much on client-side scripting and
> ActiveX components like Flash.
>
>
This one also shuts down my computer.
I will be a month in Paris staying out in the 20th Em -- what pass
should I get?
"Mxsmanic" wrote:
> "Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
> > Argh. Tht's what I mean about making the pages
> > harder to use. Why should I have to click on an
> > anchor for a pass I don't want to get maps I do?
>
> Because it's a French site. Most French Web sites are overly complicated,
> difficult to navigate, and rely far too much on client-side scripting and
> ActiveX components like Flash.
>
>
This one also shuts down my computer.
I will be a month in Paris staying out in the 20th Em -- what pass
should I get?
May 2nd 2003 | 3:10 am
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Re: Paris Fare Zone Map?
On Fri, 2 May 2003 08:41:54 +0200, "Mxsmanic"
wrote:
>"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected]...
>> Argh. Tht's what I mean about making the pages
>> harder to use. Why should I have to click on an
>> anchor for a pass I don't want to get maps I do?
>Because it's a French site. Most French Web sites are overly complicated,
>difficult to navigate, and rely far too much on client-side scripting and
>ActiveX components like Flash.
Not necessarily. A few years ago before they introduced the
citefutee pages the RATP site was quite easy to use. I think the
current state of the site represents a global trend that happens
when the owners of a site turn it over to "professional" web page
designers. A web page designer has nothing to do if he can't keep
redesigning the pages, even if they don't need redesigning.
The London Underground pages have suffered from the same malaise;
eight years ago they were attractive and easy to use, and I loved
the little animated Tube train that stopped at the platform on
the homne page.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected]...
>> Argh. Tht's what I mean about making the pages
>> harder to use. Why should I have to click on an
>> anchor for a pass I don't want to get maps I do?
>Because it's a French site. Most French Web sites are overly complicated,
>difficult to navigate, and rely far too much on client-side scripting and
>ActiveX components like Flash.
Not necessarily. A few years ago before they introduced the
citefutee pages the RATP site was quite easy to use. I think the
current state of the site represents a global trend that happens
when the owners of a site turn it over to "professional" web page
designers. A web page designer has nothing to do if he can't keep
redesigning the pages, even if they don't need redesigning.
The London Underground pages have suffered from the same malaise;
eight years ago they were attractive and easy to use, and I loved
the little animated Tube train that stopped at the platform on
the homne page.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
May 2nd 2003 | 8:11 am
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"Jenn" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> This one also shuts down my computer.
No surprise there. I think the average Web designer in France is only 14
years old, at least in mental age.
> I will be a month in Paris staying out in
> the 20th Em -- what pass should I get?
A monthly Carte Orange will do, zones 1-2 or 1-3.
[email protected]...
> This one also shuts down my computer.
No surprise there. I think the average Web designer in France is only 14
years old, at least in mental age.
> I will be a month in Paris staying out in
> the 20th Em -- what pass should I get?
A monthly Carte Orange will do, zones 1-2 or 1-3.
May 3rd 2003 | 5:10 am
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In article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:
> "Jenn" a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
> > This one also shuts down my computer.
>
> No surprise there. I think the average Web designer in France is only 14
> years old, at least in mental age.
>
> > I will be a month in Paris staying out in
> > the 20th Em -- what pass should I get?
>
> A monthly Carte Orange will do, zones 1-2 or 1-3.
>
>
do these monthly passes only run on the first of the month -- or are
they point to point e.g. if we get one on July 15 is it good until
August 15?
"Mxsmanic" wrote:
> "Jenn" a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
> > This one also shuts down my computer.
>
> No surprise there. I think the average Web designer in France is only 14
> years old, at least in mental age.
>
> > I will be a month in Paris staying out in
> > the 20th Em -- what pass should I get?
>
> A monthly Carte Orange will do, zones 1-2 or 1-3.
>
>
do these monthly passes only run on the first of the month -- or are
they point to point e.g. if we get one on July 15 is it good until
August 15?
