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Old May 16th 2006, 10:18 pm
  #46  
Martin
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:49:40 -0400, "James Silverton"
<not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> wrote:

    > I first came across
    >Horlick's tablets when I was in primary school in England. In
    >those days, they were an allowed alternative to the 1/3 pint of
    >milk that children had to drink. I tried a Horlick's tablet
    >just once and had the difficult task of spitting out the
    >disgusting thing under the eye of my teacher

I hated drinking Horlicks but loved Horlick's tablets.
I don't recall Horlick's tablets being offered an alternative to milk.

Milk Monitor (retd.)
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Old May 16th 2006, 11:04 pm
  #47  
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James Silverton wrote:
    >
    > randee wrote on Tue, 16 May 2006 14:52:51 -0600:
    >
    > r> JohnT wrote:
    > ??>>
    > ??>>> Can you now please proceed to the history of Horlicks and
    > ??>>> Bournvita?
    > ??>>
    > ??>> HTH:
    > ??>>
    > ??>> Some malted barley, pinches of wheat flour with a dash of
    > ??>>
    > ??>> evaporated milk. T h a t's the recipe for success when it
    > ??>> comes to Ho r l i c k s.
    > ??>>
    > ??>> James Horlick was a chemist who worked for a company which
    > ??>> produced
    > ??>>
    > ??>> dried infant food. He became ambitious after
    > ??>>
    > ??>> inventing some recipes of his own. So along with his
    > ??>> brother William, they formed J and W
    > ??>>
    > ??>> Horlick of Chicago. Their baby food was a huge success. In
    > ??>> the 1870s, babies often got sick as fresh
    > ??>>
    > ??>> milk went bad very quickly. It was this recipe, invented
    > ??>> by James and Wi l l i a m that saved the day. From then
    > ??>> on, their
    > ??>>
    > ??>> business grew rapidly. It was in 1906 that James returned
    > ??>> to Britain and opened the Ho r l i c k s
    > ??>>
    > ??>> Malted Milk Company. Later, their sons sold the brand to
    > ??>> Sm i t h K l i n e
    > ??>>
    > ??>> Beecham, now known as Gl a xo Sm i t h K l i n e, for �20
    > ??>> million.
    > ??>>
    > ??>> JohnT
    >
    > r> In the US, Horlick's is popular for making malted milk
    > r> shakes - vanilla ice cream, milk, chocolate sauce, and a
    > r> couple spoonfuls of Horlick's all mixed up in a blender or
    > r> an actual milk shake machine. These are also known in the
    > r> far northeastern US as frappe's. Question is - are these
    > r> seen in Europe at all? I don't recall seeing anything like
    > r> that in the Gelateria's in Italy, but then again I did not
    > r> ask if they made them.
    >
    > I can't say that I've ever come across Horlick's in the US.
    > Their use in milk shakes is an addition to my knowledge :-) but
    > I guess I'm aware that teens used to drink something called
    > malted milk and I wonder if they still do! I first came across
    > Horlick's tablets when I was in primary school in England. In
    > those days, they were an allowed alternative to the 1/3 pint of
    > milk that children had to drink. I tried a Horlick's tablet
    > just once and had the difficult task of spitting out the
    > disgusting thing under the eye of my teacher
    >
    > James Silverton
    > Potomac, Maryland.

I've only seen it in powder form. AFAIR it used to be found near the
Ovaltine in the grocery stores, but I think the last jar of genuine
Horlick's I bought came from a Walgreen's drug store. Kraft and
Carnation (Nestle) also offered a similar product (again, in powdered
form). In fact, seems to me I only saw the Carnation version last time
I went by that area in the grocery store.

The ice cream counters in drug stores and dime stores used to have a
large container marked Horlick's, which had a lever for dispensing the
product to turn a milk shake into a malted milk shake (or 'malt' as they
were known). Actually you had your choice of flavors, not just
chocolate.

Although we went into several gelato places in Italy during our visits
there, I do not recall seeing a milk shake mixer in any of them.

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Old May 16th 2006, 11:06 pm
  #48  
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Martin wrote:
    >
    > On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:49:40 -0400, "James Silverton"
    > <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    > > I first came across
    > >Horlick's tablets when I was in primary school in England. In
    > >those days, they were an allowed alternative to the 1/3 pint of
    > >milk that children had to drink. I tried a Horlick's tablet
    > >just once and had the difficult task of spitting out the
    > >disgusting thing under the eye of my teacher
    >
    > I hated drinking Horlicks but loved Horlick's tablets.
    > I don't recall Horlick's tablets being offered an alternative to milk.
    >
    > Milk Monitor (retd.)
    > --
    >
    > Martin

Was not the Horlick's mixed with ice cream, milk, and syrup?
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Old May 17th 2006, 7:32 am
  #49  
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Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :

    >On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:01:05 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Tim C. wrote:
    >>> Following up to "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> :
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Hello, All!
    >>>>It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and
    >>>>dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen references
    >>>>to both and I have been told that the shorter name is the result
    >>>>of a patenting error in Britain.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> You can't patent a name, can you?
    >>No, but you can copyright it (which amounts to the same thing).
    >or register it as a trademark, see earlier posts.


The colour red has been registered by the Royal Mail, and purple by
Cadbury's in New Zealand. Harley Davidson hasn't yet succeeded in
registering their engine sound, despite years of trying. I think they've
given up now (US trademark application number: 74485223).

(from New Scientist:)
Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic Marketing of Woerden in the
Netherlands attached a picture of the words "the smell of fresh-cut grass"
to its application. It is now the proud owner of the only European
smellmark we have found. If you want to make tennis balls that smell like
that, you'll have to ask the company nicely.

http://oami.europa.eu/CTMOnline/Requ...t_unidentified
and select "olfactory" from the type list.

(their server seems to be down at the moment.)
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Old May 17th 2006, 8:35 am
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 09:32:11 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
    >>On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:01:05 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Tim C. wrote:
    >>>> Following up to "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> :
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Hello, All!
    >>>>>It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and
    >>>>>dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen references
    >>>>>to both and I have been told that the shorter name is the result
    >>>>>of a patenting error in Britain.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> You can't patent a name, can you?
    >>>No, but you can copyright it (which amounts to the same thing).
    >>or register it as a trademark, see earlier posts.
    >The colour red has been registered by the Royal Mail, and purple by
    >Cadbury's in New Zealand. Harley Davidson hasn't yet succeeded in
    >registering their engine sound, despite years of trying. I think they've
    >given up now (US trademark application number: 74485223).
    >(from New Scientist:)
    >Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic Marketing of Woerden in the
    >Netherlands attached a picture of the words "the smell of fresh-cut grass"
    >to its application. It is now the proud owner of the only European
    >smellmark we have found. If you want to make tennis balls that smell like
    >that, you'll have to ask the company nicely.
    >http://oami.europa.eu/CTMOnline/Requ...t_unidentified
    >and select "olfactory" from the type list.
    >(their server seems to be down at the moment.)

Strong smell of pig poo in these parts.
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Old May 17th 2006, 8:52 am
  #51  
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Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :

    >On Wed, 17 May 2006 09:32:11 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
    >>>On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:01:05 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
    >>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>Tim C. wrote:
    >>>>> Following up to "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> :
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Hello, All!
    >>>>>>It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and
    >>>>>>dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen references
    >>>>>>to both and I have been told that the shorter name is the result
    >>>>>>of a patenting error in Britain.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You can't patent a name, can you?
    >>>>No, but you can copyright it (which amounts to the same thing).
    >>>or register it as a trademark, see earlier posts.
    >>The colour red has been registered by the Royal Mail, and purple by
    >>Cadbury's in New Zealand. Harley Davidson hasn't yet succeeded in
    >>registering their engine sound, despite years of trying. I think they've
    >>given up now (US trademark application number: 74485223).
    >>(from New Scientist:)
    >>Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic Marketing of Woerden in the
    >>Netherlands attached a picture of the words "the smell of fresh-cut grass"
    >>to its application. It is now the proud owner of the only European
    >>smellmark we have found. If you want to make tennis balls that smell like
    >>that, you'll have to ask the company nicely.
    >>http://oami.europa.eu/CTMOnline/Requ...t_unidentified
    >>and select "olfactory" from the type list.
    >>(their server seems to be down at the moment.)
    >Strong smell of pig poo in these parts.


"
7 THE SMELL OF FRESH CUT GRASS
Trade mark No: 000428870 Type of mark: Olfactory
Filing date: 11/12/1996 Date of registration: 11/10/2000
Nice Classification: 28 Status: Registration published
Trade mark basis: CTM




List of goods and services

Nice Classification: 28
List of goods and services Tennis balls.


Description

Description of the mark: The mark consists of the smell of fresh cut
grass applied to the product..

Owner

Name: Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic Marketing
ID No: 21390
Natural or legal person: Legal entity
Address: Polanerbaan 13e
Post code: 3447 GN
Town: WOERDEN
Country: NETHERLANDS
Correspondence address: Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic
Marketing Postbus 178 3440 AD WOERDEN PAÍSES BAJOS

"
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Old May 17th 2006, 9:37 am
  #52  
Martin
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:52:23 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
    >>On Wed, 17 May 2006 09:32:11 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
    >>wrote:
    >>>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
    >>>>On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:01:05 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
    >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>Tim C. wrote:
    >>>>>> Following up to "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> :
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Hello, All!
    >>>>>>>It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and
    >>>>>>>dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen references
    >>>>>>>to both and I have been told that the shorter name is the result
    >>>>>>>of a patenting error in Britain.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You can't patent a name, can you?
    >>>>>No, but you can copyright it (which amounts to the same thing).
    >>>>or register it as a trademark, see earlier posts.
    >>>The colour red has been registered by the Royal Mail, and purple by
    >>>Cadbury's in New Zealand. Harley Davidson hasn't yet succeeded in
    >>>registering their engine sound, despite years of trying. I think they've
    >>>given up now (US trademark application number: 74485223).
    >>>(from New Scientist:)
    >>>Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic Marketing of Woerden in the
    >>>Netherlands attached a picture of the words "the smell of fresh-cut grass"
    >>>to its application. It is now the proud owner of the only European
    >>>smellmark we have found. If you want to make tennis balls that smell like
    >>>that, you'll have to ask the company nicely.
    >>>http://oami.europa.eu/CTMOnline/Requ...t_unidentified
    >>>and select "olfactory" from the type list.
    >>>(their server seems to be down at the moment.)
    >>Strong smell of pig poo in these parts.
    >"
    >7 THE SMELL OF FRESH CUT GRASS
    >Trade mark No: 000428870 Type of mark: Olfactory
    >Filing date: 11/12/1996 Date of registration: 11/10/2000
    >Nice Classification: 28 Status: Registration published
    >Trade mark basis: CTM
    > List of goods and services
    >
    >Nice Classification: 28
    >List of goods and services Tennis balls.
    >
    > Description
    >
    >Description of the mark: The mark consists of the smell of fresh cut
    >grass applied to the product..
    >Owner
    >
    >Name: Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic Marketing
    >ID No: 21390
    >Natural or legal person: Legal entity
    >Address: Polanerbaan 13e
    >Post code: 3447 GN
    >Town: WOERDEN
    >Country: NETHERLANDS
    >Correspondence address: Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic
    >Marketing Postbus 178 3440 AD WOERDEN PA�SES BAJOS
    >"

"PA�SES BAJOS" take note Des Small!
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Martin
 
Old May 17th 2006, 10:09 am
  #53  
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Martin <[email protected]> writes:

    > On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:52:23 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > >"
    > >7 THE SMELL OF FRESH CUT GRASS

[...]

    > >Correspondence address: Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic
    > >Marketing Postbus 178 3440 AD WOERDEN PA�SES BAJOS
    > >
    > >"
    >
    > "PA�SES BAJOS" take note Des Small!

Consider it noted, Martin Nolastname!

Des
 
Old May 17th 2006, 10:45 am
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On 17 May 2006 11:09:05 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> writes:
    >> On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:52:23 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >> >"
    >> >7 THE SMELL OF FRESH CUT GRASS
    >[...]
    >> >Correspondence address: Vennootschap onder Firma Senta Aromatic
    >> >Marketing Postbus 178 3440 AD WOERDEN PA�SES BAJOS
    >> >
    >> >"
    >>
    >> "PA�SES BAJOS" take note Des Small!
    >Consider it noted, Martin Nolastname!

It's not good to have a last name when the IND is on the war path

Bad news and good news from PA�SES BAJOS Desje van Smallhuizen
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...azes+ministers

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...+hatmaker+dies
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Old May 17th 2006, 11:03 am
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:06:39 -0600, randee <[email protected]> wrote:


    >> I hated drinking Horlicks but loved Horlick's tablets.
    >> I don't recall Horlick's tablets being offered an alternative to milk.
    >>
    >> Milk Monitor (retd.)
    >> --
    >>
    >> Martin
    >Was not the Horlick's mixed with ice cream, milk, and syrup?

No
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Martin
 
Old May 17th 2006, 2:50 pm
  #56  
Des Small
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Martin <[email protected]> writes:

    > Bad news and good news from PA�SES BAJOS Desje van Smallhuizen

    > http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...azes+ministers
    >
    > http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...+hatmaker+dies

Which is which?

Des
 
Old May 17th 2006, 8:32 pm
  #57  
Martin
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On 17 May 2006 15:50:13 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> writes:
    >> Bad news and good news from PA�SES BAJOS Desje van Smallhuizen
    >> http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...azes+ministers
    >>
    >> http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...+hatmaker+dies
    >Which is which?

Sorry you have failed IND test reapply in 2020.
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