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Old May 16th 2006, 10:54 am
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Martin
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On 16 May 2006 03:11:43 -0700, "Jack Campin" <[email protected]>
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    >> Can you now please proceed to the history of Horlicks and Bournvita?
    >Nansen ordered prodigious quantities of Horlicks for the voyage of the
    >Fram.

I thought until I watched a program about him last week, that he "did"
the North West passage in the Fram, but I was wrong. Where did he
voyage with the Fram?
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Old May 16th 2006, 11:00 am
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Jens Arne Maennig
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Martin wrote:
    > On 16 May 2006 03:11:43 -0700, "Jack Campin" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:

    >>Nansen ordered prodigious quantities of Horlicks for the voyage of the
    >>Fram.
    >
    > I thought until I watched a program about him last week, that he "did"
    > the North West passage in the Fram, but I was wrong. Where did he
    > voyage with the Fram?

http://www.fram.museum.no/en/default.asp?page=142

Jens
 
Old May 16th 2006, 11:02 am
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:00:10 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Martin wrote:
    >> On 16 May 2006 03:11:43 -0700, "Jack Campin" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>>Nansen ordered prodigious quantities of Horlicks for the voyage of the
    >>>Fram.
    >>
    >> I thought until I watched a program about him last week, that he "did"
    >> the North West passage in the Fram, but I was wrong. Where did he
    >> voyage with the Fram?
    >http://www.fram.museum.no/en/default.asp?page=142

Nowhere in particular and back? :-)
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Old May 16th 2006, 11:16 am
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Martin wrote:
    > On 16 May 2006 03:11:43 -0700, "Jack Campin" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > >> Can you now please proceed to the history of Horlicks and Bournvita?
    > >
    > >Nansen ordered prodigious quantities of Horlicks for the voyage of the
    > >Fram.
    > I thought until I watched a program about him last week, that he "did"
    > the North West passage in the Fram, but I was wrong. Where did he
    > voyage with the Fram?
    > --
Amundsen in the Gjoa first sailed the NW Passage. Immediately
afterwards, the ship was donated to the city of San Francisco where it
sat more or less abandoned in the sand dunes on the west side of SF for
about 70 years when it was returned to Norway where it was given a
proper home. I always enjoyed seeing it the few years I lived nearby
before its return, and it was a quite small boat.

The Fram was a much larger ship that did voyages in both the Arctic and
Antarctic and I believe is associated with both Amundsen and Nansen and
trips to the North Pole. Google fram museum -oil -filter and the
museum website gives a short history.

George.
 
Old May 16th 2006, 12:39 pm
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Gerrit wrote on Tue, 16 May 2006 17:16:00 +0800:


Gt> And I always thought my in-laws were a bit dislexic when
Gt> they called Ovaltine, here in Oz, Ovomaltine. :-)
Gt> You live and learn.
Gt> For an off topic post it has done well!

I can't believe it's anyway near a record but when has being OT
ever stopped people here :-) Also, threads that are *on* topic
and then drift do much better; witness "The most civilized
country"!

James Silverton.
 
Old May 16th 2006, 12:56 pm
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Gerrit 't Hart wrote:

    > "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:28:54 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >Frank Hucklenbroich wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> Am Mon, 15 May 2006 16:21:48 -0700 schrieb
    > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque):
    > > >>
    > > >>> I recognize "Ovaltine" (which has been around since my
    > > >>> earliest childhood - I seem to remember the kid's radio
    > > >>> serial of "Little Orphan Annie" was sponsored by it). I
    > > >>> never heard of "Ovomaltine", though
    > > >>
    > > >> Thats what its called in Switzerland.
    > > >
    > > >As well as in France, Germany, Austria, Brasil, Thailand ...
    > >
    > > ... The Netherlands ...
    > > --
    > >
    > > Martin
    > >
    > And I always thought my in-laws were a bit dislexic when they called
    > Ovaltine, here in Oz, Ovomaltine. :-)
    > You live and learn.
    > For an off topic post it has done well!


"Guinness Is Good For You..."

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Old May 16th 2006, 1:11 pm
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:56:57 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<[email protected] > wrote:


    >"Guinness Is Good For You..."

http://www.potlatch.com.ar/noticias/...a-Guinness.jpg
See what Toucan do!
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Old May 16th 2006, 2:12 pm
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"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> wrote in message
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    > Gerrit wrote on Tue, 16 May 2006 17:16:00 +0800:
    > Gt> And I always thought my in-laws were a bit dislexic when
    > Gt> they called Ovaltine, here in Oz, Ovomaltine. :-)
    > Gt> You live and learn.
    > Gt> For an off topic post it has done well!
    > I can't believe it's anyway near a record but when has being OT
    > ever stopped people here :-) Also, threads that are *on* topic
    > and then drift do much better; witness "The most civilized
    > country"!
    > James Silverton.

What I meant was that I actually learnt something from an OT post. :-)
 
Old May 16th 2006, 2:46 pm
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 22:12:09 +0800, "Gerrit 't Hart" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> Gerrit wrote on Tue, 16 May 2006 17:16:00 +0800:
    >> Gt> And I always thought my in-laws were a bit dislexic when
    >> Gt> they called Ovaltine, here in Oz, Ovomaltine. :-)
    >> Gt> You live and learn.
    >> Gt> For an off topic post it has done well!
    >> I can't believe it's anyway near a record but when has being OT
    >> ever stopped people here :-) Also, threads that are *on* topic
    >> and then drift do much better; witness "The most civilized
    >> country"!
    >> James Silverton.
    >What I meant was that I actually learnt something from an OT post. :-)

Treasure it.
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Old May 16th 2006, 4:01 pm
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Tim C. wrote:

    > Following up to "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> :
    >
    >
    >>Hello, All!
    >>It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and
    >>dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen references
    >>to both and I have been told that the shorter name is the result
    >>of a patenting error in Britain.
    >
    >
    > You can't patent a name, can you?

No, but you can copyright it (which amounts to the same thing).

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Old May 16th 2006, 4:26 pm
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Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :

    >> You can't patent a name, can you?
    >No, but you can copyright it (which amounts to the same thing).

I know that, and trade marks.
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Old May 16th 2006, 4:29 pm
  #42  
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:01:05 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Tim C. wrote:
    >> Following up to "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> :
    >>
    >>
    >>>Hello, All!
    >>>It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and
    >>>dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen references
    >>>to both and I have been told that the shorter name is the result
    >>>of a patenting error in Britain.
    >>
    >>
    >> You can't patent a name, can you?
    >No, but you can copyright it (which amounts to the same thing).

or register it as a trademark, see earlier posts.
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Old May 16th 2006, 4:30 pm
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 18:26:28 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :
    >>> You can't patent a name, can you?
    >>No, but you can copyright it (which amounts to the same thing).
    >I know that, and trade marks.

Deja vu feeling?
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Old May 16th 2006, 8:52 pm
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JohnT wrote:
    >
    >
    > > Can you now please proceed to the history of Horlicks and Bournvita?
    >
    > HTH:
    >
    > Some malted barley, pinches of wheat flour with a dash of
    >
    > evaporated milk. T h a t's the recipe for success when it comes to Ho r l i
    > c k s.
    >
    > James Horlick was a chemist who worked for a company which produced
    >
    > dried infant food. He became ambitious after
    >
    > inventing some recipes of his own. So along with his brother William, they
    > formed J and W
    >
    > Horlick of Chicago. Their baby food was a huge success. In the 1870s, babies
    > often got sick as fresh
    >
    > milk went bad very quickly. It was this recipe, invented by James and Wi l l
    > i a m that saved the day. From then on, their
    >
    > business grew rapidly. It was in 1906 that James returned to Britain and
    > opened the Ho r l i c k s
    >
    > Malted Milk Company. Later, their sons sold the brand to Sm i t h K l i n e
    >
    > Beecham, now known as Gl a xo Sm i t h K l i n e, for �20 million.
    >
    > JohnT

In the US, Horlick's is popular for making malted milk shakes - vanilla
ice cream, milk, chocolate sauce, and a couple spoonfuls of Horlick's
all mixed up in a blender or an actual milk shake machine. These are
also known in the far northeastern US as frappe's. Question is - are
these seen in Europe at all? I don't recall seeing anything like that
in the Gelateria's in Italy, but then again I did not ask if they made
them.
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Old May 16th 2006, 9:49 pm
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randee wrote on Tue, 16 May 2006 14:52:51 -0600:


r> JohnT wrote:
??>>
??>>> Can you now please proceed to the history of Horlicks and
??>>> Bournvita?
??>>
??>> HTH:
??>>
??>> Some malted barley, pinches of wheat flour with a dash of
??>>
??>> evaporated milk. T h a t's the recipe for success when it
??>> comes to Ho r l i c k s.
??>>
??>> James Horlick was a chemist who worked for a company which
??>> produced
??>>
??>> dried infant food. He became ambitious after
??>>
??>> inventing some recipes of his own. So along with his
??>> brother William, they formed J and W
??>>
??>> Horlick of Chicago. Their baby food was a huge success. In
??>> the 1870s, babies often got sick as fresh
??>>
??>> milk went bad very quickly. It was this recipe, invented
??>> by James and Wi l l i a m that saved the day. From then
??>> on, their
??>>
??>> business grew rapidly. It was in 1906 that James returned
??>> to Britain and opened the Ho r l i c k s
??>>
??>> Malted Milk Company. Later, their sons sold the brand to
??>> Sm i t h K l i n e
??>>
??>> Beecham, now known as Gl a xo Sm i t h K l i n e, for �20
??>> million.
??>>
??>> JohnT

r> In the US, Horlick's is popular for making malted milk
r> shakes - vanilla ice cream, milk, chocolate sauce, and a
r> couple spoonfuls of Horlick's all mixed up in a blender or
r> an actual milk shake machine. These are also known in the
r> far northeastern US as frappe's. Question is - are these
r> seen in Europe at all? I don't recall seeing anything like
r> that in the Gelateria's in Italy, but then again I did not
r> ask if they made them.

I can't say that I've ever come across Horlick's in the US.
Their use in milk shakes is an addition to my knowledge :-) but
I guess I'm aware that teens used to drink something called
malted milk and I wonder if they still do! I first came across
Horlick's tablets when I was in primary school in England. In
those days, they were an allowed alternative to the 1/3 pint of
milk that children had to drink. I tried a Horlick's tablet
just once and had the difficult task of spitting out the
disgusting thing under the eye of my teacher

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.
 


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