Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
May 15th 2006, 6:15 pm
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Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
Hello, All!
It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and
dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen references
to both and I have been told that the shorter name is the result
of a patenting error in Britain.
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland, USA
It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and
dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen references
to both and I have been told that the shorter name is the result
of a patenting error in Britain.
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland, USA
May 15th 2006, 6:47 pm
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Re: Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
James Silverton wrote:
> It's probably only of academic interest
Not exactly on topic here.
> since I have tried and dislike both
Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
> but are they the same thing?
Same stuff, same company. Wander AG (Switzerland) is part of the
Associated British Foods group.
> I have seen references to both and I have been told that the shorter
> name is the result of a patenting error in Britain.
This sounds more like an urban legend to me. I'd suspect that some
marketing expert was the real reason (in 1913!).
Jens
> It's probably only of academic interest
Not exactly on topic here.
> since I have tried and dislike both
Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
> but are they the same thing?
Same stuff, same company. Wander AG (Switzerland) is part of the
Associated British Foods group.
> I have seen references to both and I have been told that the shorter
> name is the result of a patenting error in Britain.
This sounds more like an urban legend to me. I'd suspect that some
marketing expert was the real reason (in 1913!).
Jens
May 15th 2006, 7:43 pm
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Re: Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
Can one blame him not being on topic...
"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> a �crit dans le message de
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> James Silverton wrote:
>> It's probably only of academic interest
> Not exactly on topic here.
>> since I have tried and dislike both
> Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
>> but are they the same thing?
> Same stuff, same company. Wander AG (Switzerland) is part of the
> Associated British Foods group.
>> I have seen references to both and I have been told that the shorter
>> name is the result of a patenting error in Britain.
> This sounds more like an urban legend to me. I'd suspect that some
> marketing expert was the real reason (in 1913!).
> Jens
"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> a �crit dans le message de
news: [email protected]...
> James Silverton wrote:
>> It's probably only of academic interest
> Not exactly on topic here.
>> since I have tried and dislike both
> Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
>> but are they the same thing?
> Same stuff, same company. Wander AG (Switzerland) is part of the
> Associated British Foods group.
>> I have seen references to both and I have been told that the shorter
>> name is the result of a patenting error in Britain.
> This sounds more like an urban legend to me. I'd suspect that some
> marketing expert was the real reason (in 1913!).
> Jens
May 15th 2006, 8:28 pm
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Re: Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:47:19 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:
>James Silverton wrote:
>> It's probably only of academic interest
>Not exactly on topic here.
>> since I have tried and dislike both
>Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
Leaving out the Ovaltine makes the whisky more interesting.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>James Silverton wrote:
>> It's probably only of academic interest
>Not exactly on topic here.
>> since I have tried and dislike both
>Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
Leaving out the Ovaltine makes the whisky more interesting.
--
Martin
May 15th 2006, 8:29 pm
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Re: Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
Once upon a time, there lived a terribly clever Swiss scientist called Dr
George Wander. Dr Wander was a chemist who spent his days investigating the
nutritional qualities of barley malt; perhaps not the most exciting of
activities, but I guess thrilling entertainment must have been a bit thin on
the ground in 1904. As it happened though, this rather dull pursuit was to
lead to a useful discovery. You see, on one particular day, the chemist
suddenly realised the dietary potential of the complex carbohydrates and
vitamins in barley malt. When the clever chap combined the malt with eggs,
he invented the World's first nutritional drink, which he named "Ovomaltine".
Despite the unpromising (and quite frankly unappetising) name of this
product, Ovomaltine quickly became a success story in Switzerland, where it
was marketed as a milk fortifier to provide easily prepared and sustaining
hot drinks for under-nourished children, pregnant women, the elderly and
infirm. In fact, it even began to be prescribed by doctors once the
nutritional value of this drink was realised. Dr Wander became something of
a champion of the nutritionally challenged.
It wasn't until 1906 that this drink first arrived in Britain under the more
familiar brand name of Ovaltine. This was something I found rather
surprising, as we tend to think of Ovaltine as being a peculiarly British
eccentricity rather than an imported product. Indeed, so ingrained has
Ovaltine become in our national consciousness, that websites such as
www.britishcornershop.co.uk and www.britstore.co.uk have been set up to sell
it and other such products to the British ex-pat community worldwide. In
fact, I even suspect that right now, readers of a Certain Age will be
finding themselves humming the theme tune to the Ovaltineys^!
Ovaltine continued to be consumed as a virtuous and nutritional beverage for
many years. Back in 1997, however, Ovaltine was renamed "Original Ovaltine"
as the range was expanded to include "Ovaltine Power", a drink that mixed
hot chocolate and Ovaltine to form a new kind of beverage. Although a fan of
the original drink, I was quickly converted to the chocolate version and
bought it on a regular basis until it underwent something of a metamorphosis
a few months back. This re-branding was evidently an attempt to cash in on
the rapidly growing health food market, as Original Ovaltine Light (a
reduced fat version of Ovaltine that you make with water rather than milk)
came out, and Ovaltine Power became Ovaltine Chocolate Light (although as
far as I can tell, they are the exact same drink). There is also a new range
called "Max for Milk", which are milk shake powders that contain the malt
barley extract and vitamins of Ovaltine, but I am yet to sample them.
for the rst of the story:
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/drinks/ovalt...light/1018638/
George Wander. Dr Wander was a chemist who spent his days investigating the
nutritional qualities of barley malt; perhaps not the most exciting of
activities, but I guess thrilling entertainment must have been a bit thin on
the ground in 1904. As it happened though, this rather dull pursuit was to
lead to a useful discovery. You see, on one particular day, the chemist
suddenly realised the dietary potential of the complex carbohydrates and
vitamins in barley malt. When the clever chap combined the malt with eggs,
he invented the World's first nutritional drink, which he named "Ovomaltine".
Despite the unpromising (and quite frankly unappetising) name of this
product, Ovomaltine quickly became a success story in Switzerland, where it
was marketed as a milk fortifier to provide easily prepared and sustaining
hot drinks for under-nourished children, pregnant women, the elderly and
infirm. In fact, it even began to be prescribed by doctors once the
nutritional value of this drink was realised. Dr Wander became something of
a champion of the nutritionally challenged.
It wasn't until 1906 that this drink first arrived in Britain under the more
familiar brand name of Ovaltine. This was something I found rather
surprising, as we tend to think of Ovaltine as being a peculiarly British
eccentricity rather than an imported product. Indeed, so ingrained has
Ovaltine become in our national consciousness, that websites such as
www.britishcornershop.co.uk and www.britstore.co.uk have been set up to sell
it and other such products to the British ex-pat community worldwide. In
fact, I even suspect that right now, readers of a Certain Age will be
finding themselves humming the theme tune to the Ovaltineys^!
Ovaltine continued to be consumed as a virtuous and nutritional beverage for
many years. Back in 1997, however, Ovaltine was renamed "Original Ovaltine"
as the range was expanded to include "Ovaltine Power", a drink that mixed
hot chocolate and Ovaltine to form a new kind of beverage. Although a fan of
the original drink, I was quickly converted to the chocolate version and
bought it on a regular basis until it underwent something of a metamorphosis
a few months back. This re-branding was evidently an attempt to cash in on
the rapidly growing health food market, as Original Ovaltine Light (a
reduced fat version of Ovaltine that you make with water rather than milk)
came out, and Ovaltine Power became Ovaltine Chocolate Light (although as
far as I can tell, they are the exact same drink). There is also a new range
called "Max for Milk", which are milk shake powders that contain the malt
barley extract and vitamins of Ovaltine, but I am yet to sample them.
for the rst of the story:
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/drinks/ovalt...light/1018638/
May 15th 2006, 8:57 pm
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Re: Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:47:19 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >James Silverton wrote:
> >
> >> It's probably only of academic interest
> >
> >Not exactly on topic here.
> >
> >> since I have tried and dislike both
> >
> >Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
>
> Leaving out the Ovaltine makes the whisky more interesting.
Do a Churchill. Glance at the ovaltine while pouring the whisky.
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> On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:47:19 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >James Silverton wrote:
> >
> >> It's probably only of academic interest
> >
> >Not exactly on topic here.
> >
> >> since I have tried and dislike both
> >
> >Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
>
> Leaving out the Ovaltine makes the whisky more interesting.
Do a Churchill. Glance at the ovaltine while pouring the whisky.
--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
May 15th 2006, 9:26 pm
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Re: Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:47:19 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >James Silverton wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's probably only of academic interest
>> >
>> >Not exactly on topic here.
>> >
>> >> since I have tried and dislike both
>> >
>> >Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
>> Leaving out the Ovaltine makes the whisky more interesting.
> Do a Churchill. Glance at the ovaltine while pouring the whisky.
I prefer the cold cure that Damon Runyon recommended. Stick peppermint and
Whisky or Whiskey. And if you can't find any stick peppermint, don't worry
because it isn't an essential ingredient.
JohnT
prestwich tesco 24h offy" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:1hfeflg.17smvbx1jk4lsoN%this_address_is_for_s [email protected]...
> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:47:19 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >James Silverton wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's probably only of academic interest
>> >
>> >Not exactly on topic here.
>> >
>> >> since I have tried and dislike both
>> >
>> >Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
>> Leaving out the Ovaltine makes the whisky more interesting.
> Do a Churchill. Glance at the ovaltine while pouring the whisky.
I prefer the cold cure that Damon Runyon recommended. Stick peppermint and
Whisky or Whiskey. And if you can't find any stick peppermint, don't worry
because it isn't an essential ingredient.
JohnT
May 15th 2006, 11:21 pm
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Re: Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
James Silverton wrote:
> Hello, All!
>
> It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and dislike
> both but are they the same thing? I have seen references to both and I
> have been told that the shorter name is the result of a patenting error
> in Britain.
I recognize "Ovaltine" (which has been around since my
earliest childhood - I seem to remember the kid's radio
serial of "Little Orphan Annie" was sponsored by it). I
never heard of "Ovomaltine", though - is it sold in the U.S.?
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland, USA
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> Hello, All!
>
> It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and dislike
> both but are they the same thing? I have seen references to both and I
> have been told that the shorter name is the result of a patenting error
> in Britain.
I recognize "Ovaltine" (which has been around since my
earliest childhood - I seem to remember the kid's radio
serial of "Little Orphan Annie" was sponsored by it). I
never heard of "Ovomaltine", though - is it sold in the U.S.?
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland, USA
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May 15th 2006, 11:27 pm
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Pat in TX wrote:
> It wasn't until 1906 that this drink first arrived in Britain under the more
> familiar brand name of Ovaltine. This was something I found rather
> surprising, as we tend to think of Ovaltine as being a peculiarly British
> eccentricity rather than an imported product. Indeed, so ingrained has
> Ovaltine become in our national consciousness, that websites such as
> www.britishcornershop.co.uk and www.britstore.co.uk have been set up to sell
> it and other such products to the British ex-pat community worldwide. In
> fact, I even suspect that right now, readers of a Certain Age will be
> finding themselves humming the theme tune to the Ovaltineys^!
I wonder when it reached the U.S.? We certainly had it back
in the early 1930's - I didn't realize it wasn't native to
the U.S. until I encountered mention of it in Britsh
children's books.
--
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> It wasn't until 1906 that this drink first arrived in Britain under the more
> familiar brand name of Ovaltine. This was something I found rather
> surprising, as we tend to think of Ovaltine as being a peculiarly British
> eccentricity rather than an imported product. Indeed, so ingrained has
> Ovaltine become in our national consciousness, that websites such as
> www.britishcornershop.co.uk and www.britstore.co.uk have been set up to sell
> it and other such products to the British ex-pat community worldwide. In
> fact, I even suspect that right now, readers of a Certain Age will be
> finding themselves humming the theme tune to the Ovaltineys^!
I wonder when it reached the U.S.? We certainly had it back
in the early 1930's - I didn't realize it wasn't native to
the U.S. until I encountered mention of it in Britsh
children's books.
--
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May 15th 2006, 11:31 pm
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JohnT wrote:
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
> prestwich tesco 24h offy" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:1hfeflg.17smvbx1jk4lsoN%this_address_is_for_s [email protected]...
>
>>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:47:19 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>James Silverton wrote:
>>>>>It's probably only of academic interest
>>>>Not exactly on topic here.
>>>>>since I have tried and dislike both
>>>>Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
>>>Leaving out the Ovaltine makes the whisky more interesting.
>>Do a Churchill. Glance at the ovaltine while pouring the whisky.
>
>
> I prefer the cold cure that Damon Runyon recommended. Stick peppermint and
> Whisky or Whiskey. And if you can't find any stick peppermint, don't worry
> because it isn't an essential ingredient.
Then there's the Hungarian remedy a co-worker told me about
- hang your hat on the bedpost, get into bed with a bottle
of cognac, and watching the hat, sip cognac until you see
two hats instead of one. :-)
>
> JohnT
>
>
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> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
> prestwich tesco 24h offy" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:1hfeflg.17smvbx1jk4lsoN%this_address_is_for_s [email protected]...
>
>>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:47:19 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>James Silverton wrote:
>>>>>It's probably only of academic interest
>>>>Not exactly on topic here.
>>>>>since I have tried and dislike both
>>>>Putting a whisky in makes it much more interesting.
>>>Leaving out the Ovaltine makes the whisky more interesting.
>>Do a Churchill. Glance at the ovaltine while pouring the whisky.
>
>
> I prefer the cold cure that Damon Runyon recommended. Stick peppermint and
> Whisky or Whiskey. And if you can't find any stick peppermint, don't worry
> because it isn't an essential ingredient.
Then there's the Hungarian remedy a co-worker told me about
- hang your hat on the bedpost, get into bed with a bottle
of cognac, and watching the hat, sip cognac until you see
two hats instead of one. :-)
>
> JohnT
>
>
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May 15th 2006, 11:57 pm
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Re: Ovaltine or Ovomaltine?
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote on Mon, 15 May 2006
16:21:48 -0700:
??>> Hello, All!
??>>
??>> It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried
??>> and dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen
??>> references to both and I have been told that the shorter
??>> name is the result of a patenting error in Britain.
ED> I recognize "Ovaltine" (which has been around since my
ED> earliest childhood - I seem to remember the kid's radio
ED> serial of "Little Orphan Annie" was sponsored by it). I
ED> never heard of "Ovomaltine", though - is it sold in the
ED> U.S.?
I haven't the faintest idea! I have just seen it referred to in
news groups and have been persuaded to try each (once!) in the
UK or the European mainlanf.
James Silverton.
16:21:48 -0700:
??>> Hello, All!
??>>
??>> It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried
??>> and dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen
??>> references to both and I have been told that the shorter
??>> name is the result of a patenting error in Britain.
ED> I recognize "Ovaltine" (which has been around since my
ED> earliest childhood - I seem to remember the kid's radio
ED> serial of "Little Orphan Annie" was sponsored by it). I
ED> never heard of "Ovomaltine", though - is it sold in the
ED> U.S.?
I haven't the faintest idea! I have just seen it referred to in
news groups and have been persuaded to try each (once!) in the
UK or the European mainlanf.
James Silverton.
May 16th 2006, 6:33 am
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
>
> Pat in TX wrote:
>
>> It wasn't until 1906 that this drink first arrived in Britain under
>> the more familiar brand name of Ovaltine. This was something I found
>> rather surprising, as we tend to think of Ovaltine as being a
>> peculiarly British eccentricity rather than an imported product.
>> Indeed, so ingrained has Ovaltine become in our national
>> consciousness, that websites such as www.britishcornershop.co.uk and
>> www.britstore.co.uk have been set up to sell it and other such
>> products to the British ex-pat community worldwide. In fact, I even
>> suspect that right now, readers of a Certain Age will be finding
>> themselves humming the theme tune to the Ovaltineys^!
>
> I wonder when it reached the U.S.? We certainly had it back
> in the early 1930's - I didn't realize it wasn't native to
> the U.S. until I encountered mention of it in Britsh
> children's books.
>
In 1909-10ish depending on your sources! :o)
news:[email protected]:
>
>
> Pat in TX wrote:
>
>> It wasn't until 1906 that this drink first arrived in Britain under
>> the more familiar brand name of Ovaltine. This was something I found
>> rather surprising, as we tend to think of Ovaltine as being a
>> peculiarly British eccentricity rather than an imported product.
>> Indeed, so ingrained has Ovaltine become in our national
>> consciousness, that websites such as www.britishcornershop.co.uk and
>> www.britstore.co.uk have been set up to sell it and other such
>> products to the British ex-pat community worldwide. In fact, I even
>> suspect that right now, readers of a Certain Age will be finding
>> themselves humming the theme tune to the Ovaltineys^!
>
> I wonder when it reached the U.S.? We certainly had it back
> in the early 1930's - I didn't realize it wasn't native to
> the U.S. until I encountered mention of it in Britsh
> children's books.
>
In 1909-10ish depending on your sources! :o)
May 16th 2006, 6:34 am
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"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote on Mon, 15 May 2006
> 16:21:48 -0700:
>
> ??>> Hello, All!
> ??>>
> ??>> It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried
> ??>> and dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen
> ??>> references to both and I have been told that the shorter
> ??>> name is the result of a patenting error in Britain.
>
> ED> I recognize "Ovaltine" (which has been around since my
> ED> earliest childhood - I seem to remember the kid's radio
> ED> serial of "Little Orphan Annie" was sponsored by it). I
> ED> never heard of "Ovomaltine", though - is it sold in the
> ED> U.S.?
>
> I haven't the faintest idea! I have just seen it referred to in
> news groups and have been persuaded to try each (once!) in the
> UK or the European mainlanf.
>
> James Silverton.
>
So, basically you've tried 'it' twice.... same thing, different name.
news:[email protected]:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote on Mon, 15 May 2006
> 16:21:48 -0700:
>
> ??>> Hello, All!
> ??>>
> ??>> It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried
> ??>> and dislike both but are they the same thing? I have seen
> ??>> references to both and I have been told that the shorter
> ??>> name is the result of a patenting error in Britain.
>
> ED> I recognize "Ovaltine" (which has been around since my
> ED> earliest childhood - I seem to remember the kid's radio
> ED> serial of "Little Orphan Annie" was sponsored by it). I
> ED> never heard of "Ovomaltine", though - is it sold in the
> ED> U.S.?
>
> I haven't the faintest idea! I have just seen it referred to in
> news groups and have been persuaded to try each (once!) in the
> UK or the European mainlanf.
>
> James Silverton.
>
So, basically you've tried 'it' twice.... same thing, different name.
May 16th 2006, 6:35 am
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> I wonder when it reached the U.S.? We certainly had it back
> in the early 1930's
In 1919, according to the Swiss website http://www.ovomaltine.ch.
Jens
> I wonder when it reached the U.S.? We certainly had it back
> in the early 1930's
In 1919, according to the Swiss website http://www.ovomaltine.ch.
Jens
May 16th 2006, 6:36 am
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James Silverton wrote:
> Hello, All!
>
> It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and dislike
> both but are they the same thing? I have seen references to both and I
> have been told that the shorter name is the result of a patenting error
> in Britain.
>
>
Can you now please proceed to the history of Horlicks and Bournvita?
> Hello, All!
>
> It's probably only of academic interest since I have tried and dislike
> both but are they the same thing? I have seen references to both and I
> have been told that the shorter name is the result of a patenting error
> in Britain.
>
>
Can you now please proceed to the history of Horlicks and Bournvita?