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Old Jul 30th 2007 | 1:24 am
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Bob Fusillo
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NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point in his term,
Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity, dwelling especially, as is
his practice, on the critical situations. Tourism, obviously, played a
leading role. "In 2007," the mayor said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive
in Venice, twice the amount predicted a few years ago. This continuous
increase makes life difficult for residents, and it is absolutely necessary
to regulate the stream of visitors. Besides, new financial resources are
needed, but the Italian government has not replied to our requests. Why, for
instance, is a five-star hotel taxed at the same rate as a house and St.
Mark's luxury shops pay only a ridiculously small Local Housing Rate?"
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Old Jul 30th 2007 | 1:46 am
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-Martin
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:24:58 -0400, "bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:

>NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point in his term,
>Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity, dwelling especially, as is
>his practice, on the critical situations. Tourism, obviously, played a
>leading role. "In 2007," the mayor said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive
>in Venice, twice the amount predicted a few years ago.

In the same period 43,000,000 will arrive at Schiphol.

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Old Jul 30th 2007 | 2:29 am
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"bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point
> in his term, Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity,
> dwelling especially, as is his practice, on the critical situations.
> Tourism, obviously, played a leading role. "In 2007," the mayor
> said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive in Venice, twice the
> amount predicted a few years ago....

My advice to Venice:
Covert to an amusement part and charge admission. Just like
Disney, a day ticket should be high enuff to keep out the riff-raff,
but multi-day passes could include discounts on Murano. =R
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 2:38 am
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-Martin
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:29:29 -0400, "Rog'" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point
>> in his term, Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity,
>> dwelling especially, as is his practice, on the critical situations.
>> Tourism, obviously, played a leading role. "In 2007," the mayor
>> said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive in Venice, twice the
>> amount predicted a few years ago....
>
>My advice to Venice:
>Covert to an amusement part and charge admission. Just like
>Disney, a day ticket should be high enuff to keep out the riff-raff,
>but multi-day passes could include discounts on Murano. =R>

and stop telling people that staying in a hotel Treviso is a stupid option.
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Martin
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 2:52 am
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:29:29 -0400, "Rog'" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >"bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point
> >> in his term, Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity,
> >> dwelling especially, as is his practice, on the critical situations.
> >> Tourism, obviously, played a leading role. "In 2007," the mayor
> >> said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive in Venice, twice the
> >> amount predicted a few years ago....
> >
> >My advice to Venice:
> >Covert to an amusement part and charge admission. Just like
> >Disney, a day ticket should be high enuff to keep out the riff-raff,
> >but multi-day passes could include discounts on Murano. =R> >
>
> and stop telling people that staying in a hotel Treviso is a stupid option.

Has Bob done that?! (I forget!)

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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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Old Jul 30th 2007 | 2:55 am
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:52:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:29:29 -0400, "Rog'" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point
>> >> in his term, Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity,
>> >> dwelling especially, as is his practice, on the critical situations.
>> >> Tourism, obviously, played a leading role. "In 2007," the mayor
>> >> said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive in Venice, twice the
>> >> amount predicted a few years ago....
>> >
>> >My advice to Venice:
>> >Covert to an amusement part and charge admission. Just like
>> >Disney, a day ticket should be high enuff to keep out the riff-raff,
>> >but multi-day passes could include discounts on Murano. =R>> >
>>
>> and stop telling people that staying in a hotel Treviso is a stupid option.
>
>Has Bob done that?! (I forget!)

I had the feeling he did a long time ago, the first time I suggested it, but I
could be wrong.
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Martin
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 2:56 am
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:52:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:29:29 -0400, "Rog'" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point
> >> >> in his term, Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity,
> >> >> dwelling especially, as is his practice, on the critical situations.
> >> >> Tourism, obviously, played a leading role. "In 2007," the mayor
> >> >> said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive in Venice, twice the
> >> >> amount predicted a few years ago....
> >> >
> >> >My advice to Venice:
> >> >Covert to an amusement part and charge admission. Just like
> >> >Disney, a day ticket should be high enuff to keep out the riff-raff,
> >> >but multi-day passes could include discounts on Murano. =R> >> >
> >>
> >> and stop telling people that staying in a hotel Treviso is a stupid option.
> >
> >Has Bob done that?! (I forget!)
>
> I had the feeling he did a long time ago, the first time I suggested it, but I
> could be wrong.

Still- I could see him not liking the idea, as it adds to the nasty
day-trippers!

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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 4:46 am
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:56:22 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne)
wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:52:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:29:29 -0400, "Rog'" <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point
>> >> >> in his term, Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity,
>> >> >> dwelling especially, as is his practice, on the critical situations.
>> >> >> Tourism, obviously, played a leading role. "In 2007," the mayor
>> >> >> said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive in Venice, twice the
>> >> >> amount predicted a few years ago....
>> >> >
>> >> >My advice to Venice:
>> >> >Covert to an amusement part and charge admission. Just like
>> >> >Disney, a day ticket should be high enuff to keep out the riff-raff,
>> >> >but multi-day passes could include discounts on Murano. =R>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> and stop telling people that staying in a hotel Treviso is a stupid option.
>> >
>> >Has Bob done that?! (I forget!)
>>
>> I had the feeling he did a long time ago, the first time I suggested it, but I
>> could be wrong.
>
>Still- I could see him not liking the idea, as it adds to the nasty
>day-trippers!

Exactly, he's willing to forgive people who go to Venice if at least
they leave a lot of their money there.

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Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 4:54 am
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-Martin
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:46:44 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:56:22 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne)
>wrote:
>
>>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:52:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>>
>>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:29:29 -0400, "Rog'" <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >"bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point
>>> >> >> in his term, Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity,
>>> >> >> dwelling especially, as is his practice, on the critical situations.
>>> >> >> Tourism, obviously, played a leading role. "In 2007," the mayor
>>> >> >> said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive in Venice, twice the
>>> >> >> amount predicted a few years ago....
>>> >> >
>>> >> >My advice to Venice:
>>> >> >Covert to an amusement part and charge admission. Just like
>>> >> >Disney, a day ticket should be high enuff to keep out the riff-raff,
>>> >> >but multi-day passes could include discounts on Murano. =R>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> and stop telling people that staying in a hotel Treviso is a stupid option.
>>> >
>>> >Has Bob done that?! (I forget!)
>>>
>>> I had the feeling he did a long time ago, the first time I suggested it, but I
>>> could be wrong.
>>
>>Still- I could see him not liking the idea, as it adds to the nasty
>>day-trippers!
>
>Exactly, he's willing to forgive people who go to Venice if at least
>they leave a lot of their money there.

which is similar to the relationship between the Dutch and their eastern
neighbour.
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Martin
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 5:05 am
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David Horne
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B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:56:22 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne)
> wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:52:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> >> and stop telling people that staying in a hotel Treviso is a stupid
> >> >option.
> >> >
> >> >Has Bob done that?! (I forget!)
> >>
> >> I had the feeling he did a long time ago, the first time I suggested
> >> it, but I could be wrong.
> >
> >Still- I could see him not liking the idea, as it adds to the nasty
> >day-trippers!
>
> Exactly, he's willing to forgive people who go to Venice if at least
> they leave a lot of their money there.

We left enough on the last visit! Lunch, dinner, and some purchases!

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 5:13 am
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On Jul 30, 9:24 am, "bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> NEWS. During a conference press, held to mark the mid-point in his term,
> Mayor Cacciari took stock of municipal activity, dwelling especially, as is
> his practice, on the critical situations. Tourism, obviously, played a
> leading role. "In 2007," the mayor said, "25,000,000 tourists will arrive
> in Venice, twice the amount predicted a few years ago. This continuous
> increase makes life difficult for residents, and it is absolutely necessary
> to regulate the stream of visitors. Besides, new financial resources are
> needed, but the Italian government has not replied to our requests. Why, for
> instance, is a five-star hotel taxed at the same rate as a house and St.
> Mark's luxury shops pay only a ridiculously small Local Housing Rate?"
> Wish to comment?http://blog.buongiornovenezia.com


Oh, not this guy again. Why do you have a second home in one of the
most touristed places in the world if you hate crowds so much? Venice
doesn't belong to you, and realistically the tourist numbers are not
going to come down significantly any time soon. Either sell your
Venice home and get a second home elsewhere in Italy or quit whining.
Maybe they should move ALL of the residents out of Venice, and abandon
any pretense that it is still a functioning city rather than an
overpriced open-air architectural museum with a lot of glass stores.
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 5:28 am
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:05:05 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne)
wrote:

>B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Exactly, he's willing to forgive people who go to Venice if at least
>> they leave a lot of their money there.
>
>We left enough on the last visit! Lunch, dinner, and some purchases!

I think it's all the money that's causing Venice to sink.
--
Barbara Vaughan
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I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 5:53 am
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On Jul 30, 1:13 pm, Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Maybe they should move ALL of the residents out of Venice, and abandon
> any pretense that it is still a functioning city rather than an
> overpriced open-air architectural museum with a lot of glass stores.

Wasn't there a NYT article that said this would happen by 2050, that
is, all the residents will have left the island and no one will want
to buy a home there there since it's like living in Disney World.
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 5:54 am
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B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:05:05 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne)
> wrote:
>
> >B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Exactly, he's willing to forgive people who go to Venice if at least
> >> they leave a lot of their money there.
> >
> >We left enough on the last visit! Lunch, dinner, and some purchases!
>
> I think it's all the money that's causing Venice to sink.

The dinner was fine, but not remarkable, and cost more than we'd
normally pay for a good dinner here!

I bought some small tapestries, and whether or not the guy who sold them
was telling the truth that they were made locally, I do like them!

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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 7:13 am
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"David Horne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1i22mre.13o7l5k7o4v5pN%[email protected]...
> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> and stop telling people that staying in a hotel Treviso is a stupid
>> option.
>
> Has Bob done that?! (I forget!)

Yes I have, dammit. He is partly right, but as I have repeatedly harrassed,
it is not the overnighters that are the problem -- it is the day trippers.
( I mis-typed "day tippers." Would that they were.)
Bob
>
> --
> (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
> http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
> "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
> Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
 


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