Me

[email protected] (Robert) wrote in message
[snip]
    > You're much more likely to attract good people with good manners.
[snip]

Fundamental to this assertion is that royalty and rich folks
are more likely to be "good people" than hoi polloi. It's
not an obvious fact and many of us might actually suggest
that there is a slight inverse correlation.

barney

In article <[email protected]>,
nightjar@<insert my surname here>.uk.com> (nightjar) wrote:

    >
    > "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > ...
    > > Oh, yea? Then why is royal watching so popular with the masses.
    >
    > It is popular enough to sell newspapers at the low end of the market in
    > the
    > UK, but then so are football, scandal, government sleaze and women with
    > naked breasts.

Indeed. I haven't counted column inches, but ISTM the British royals who
get the most coverage in the UK press are Prince William (young,
good-looking, glamorous, rich) and Princess Diana (all the above plus dead
in what people call "tragic circumstances").

They're both much more discussed than the Queen (head of state but
quiet, sensible and uncontroversial). So in a sense the royals who are
attentively watched are so because of the characteristics they share with
celebrities in general, not because of their royal-ness per se.

I appreciate there is a bit of circularity in this argument!

barney

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Robert) wrote:

    > Thanks. I have found a lot of valuable information on this newsgroup
    > over the years. I posted for the first time ever a few days ago and I
    > had and have no intention of annoying people. Informing them? Yes.
    > Making them laugh? Yes. Making them wonder? Yes. But not intentionally
    > annoying them. Why would I do that? On the other hand some of the
    > comments to my postings were nasty (by American standards) and
    > uncalled for.

I'm surprised you didn't expect that if you have, as you claim, been
reading this newsgroup for years. Maybe you have just been searching it
for nuggets and not reading entire threads - but you should realise now
that that is probably not how most people use it, and...

    > I had the time of my life in Europe this summer and let
    > me tell you I can only imagine others did not because they wore tennis
    > shoes to hikenup trails, sprained their ankle and got hypothermia. All
    > this could of been avoid if they saw the post on tennis shoes in the
    > Alps (or any mountains for that matter)

...(how often does this need to be said?) the chances of someone who is
about to hike the Alps in tennis shoes reading the group at the precise
time you post this advice are rather small; the chances of someone in that
position thinking "hmmm, I imagine tennis shoes are okay but I'd better
search the archives of rec.travel.europe just in case they're not" are
even smaller.

You would be doing much more of a service if you read the group and
responded to other people's queries, travel plans etc. Your points will
then be read by the people who can benefit from them.

barney

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Reid) wrote:

    > I could find nothing on the royals (one other national heavy
    > *never* mentions royals as a policy)

The Indie? The policy's not *quite* that extreme (they have covered the
Burrell story, for example), but it was a useful way of differentiating
themselves from the pack when they started out.

Reid

Following up to [email protected]

    >The Indie?

Yes

    >The policy's not *quite* that extreme (they have covered the
    >Burrell story, for example), but it was a useful way of differentiating
    >themselves from the pack when they started out.

Right, I suppose they had to cover the dead Diana story, so it
sort of carries on.
--
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Reid

Following up to Robert

    >On the other hand some of the
    >comments to my postings were nasty (by American standards)

polite by european ones?
--
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Olivers

Reid muttered....

    > Following up to Robert
    >
    >
    >>> Could've been a contender, instead of a bum. Now I am condemned to
    >>> sitting in front of my computer, thinking of what could have been.
    >
    >>That's right, up till now. But each moment is new one and you can
    >>always change.
    >
    > ROFL, well done, both of you.

"Important" Europeans I have met.....(a long time ago, and my life
unchanged by the introductions)

Prince Philip (the Auld Queen's husband) - came aboard ship, wandered
about, spoke little and not much of a smile, but did exhibit firm handshake
in greeting junior officers.

Mussolini's Son - Now, there's a few degrees of separation.

Gina Lollabrigida (sp?) - better looking than you could possibly conceive
(at least back then).

TMO

Robert

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > Robert writes:
    >
    > > It's strange how my posting on safety in Europe turned into a debate
    > > of whether or not I have a royal friend.
    >
    > Why would anyone care whether you have a royal friend or not?
    >
    > > I can tell you for a fact that there are some very rich people in this
    > > world who don't look or act like it.
    >
    > In that case, why does it matter?
    >
    > > Well, that person you said that to may have been someone
    > > who may have allowed you to travel around Europe in total
    > > luxury for the rest of your life. But now you sit at
    > > your computer wishing you could afford even budget travel.
    >
    > It's not my habit to live as a parasite off others, so I'd probably be
    > sitting in front of my computer in any case.
    >
    > > True story: I almost hung up on a billionaire because he
    > > sounded like he was from a lower class - he was! but built
    > > many successful companies and was a billionaire.
    >
    > Billionaires and royals ... you seem to have a lot of unusual luck in
    > your encounters with others.
    >
    > > I have learned. Yes I have learned. And so should you.
    >
    > So that one can live off the wealth of others? Is that really such a
    > good thing?
    >
    > > My royal friend, her family and friends have impeccable manners and my
    > > guess is that most royals do.
    >
    > If you were rich and polite, would these friends profit from you as you
    > imply it is possible to profit from them?
    >
    > > Sometime you'll be in the hotel or wherever and you'll meet someone.
    > > That someone might be royalty.
    >
    > Wow.
    >
    > > Just go about your business in a positive manner expecting
    > > someday that you will meet meet royalty. You people got lucky
    > > without any effort - because through me you have come one
    > > step to actually meeting royalty. Heck, I have her email address. I
    > > could call up her Queen Mother right now if I wanted to (but I
    > > wouldn't). That's my method. Worked for me. Let me know if it works
    > > for you.
    >
    > I could never countenance taking advantage of others in that way, no
    > matter how wealthy or royal they might be. And I should hope that my
    > friends would never talk about me as though I were an expensive car,
    > either.

Your responses are so way off. People in this group cared that I had a
royal friend and wanted more information. Why? Royals are interesting
to many people. Maybe not too you.

I have never profited financially from my princess friend. I profitted
from my billionaire friend because I introduced him to another
business owner and received a commission. In any case I said it wasn't
about the money. It was about treating all people with respect.
By the way you get lucky meeting billionaires when you get in the
game. In this case the game was the sale of used office furniture,
believe it or not. I called an ad advertising large lots of office
furniture. I knew another dealer and thought I could broker the deal.
I was put right through to the billionaire. He was building an office
supply company.

Marie Lewis

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
writes
    > ISTM the British royals who
    >get the most coverage in the UK press are Prince William (young,
    >good-looking, glamorous, rich)


Alas, he is no longer so handsome: he seems to be turning into Princess
Anne, as a previous poster wrote.
--
Marie Lewis

Miguel Cruz

Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Your responses are so way off. People in this group cared that I had a
    > royal friend and wanted more information.

My friend, they were handing you rope.

miguel
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Magda

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:35:05 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, Reid <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Following up to Robert
...
... >On the other hand some of the
... >comments to my postings were nasty (by American standards)
...
... polite by european ones?

Extremely.
Next step is sending him flying from the third floor of the Eiffel Tower. Sans parachute.

Magda

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:04:44 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, Reid <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Following up to Arwel Parry
...
... >I get the impression that most people in the UK get to meet royalty
... >sooner or later, since they put themselves around a lot.
...
... Diana put her self about so much that one of the princes
... distinctly looks like that bloke (Hewitt?).

Oh la la, quel esprit mal tourné !... Shame on you, Mike !
Harry looks like his uncle - her brother - her side of the family !

Emilia

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > Tim Challenger writes:
    >
    >> sorry Mixi, posted on the end of the wrong message there.
    >
    > I never communicate with billionaires by phone, anyway.
    >

Ah. But maybe you do & you don't know it....

Emilia

Some of the rudest, most self centered people I have ever met have been
the very rich (particulary the ones who inherited thier money). They are
the ones who hold disdain for people not of thier "class". They are the
ones who treat everyone else like thier servants. And even worse were
those individuals who weren't rich but trying deperately to fit in the
jet set circles.

I have met royals and very rich people. Some I liked, some I didn't.
Some liked me, some didn't. Contrary to thier own belief, they are people
like everyone else.

Now I'm sure you and your friend are very nice. I'm not saying that
others where not rude to you in another post, but I think your lesson in
manners is misplaced.

Just my opinion.

Emilia



[email protected] (Robert) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > It's strange how my posting on safety in Europe turned into a debate
    > of whether or not I have a royal friend. Some of you may not have seen
    > my last post so I'll say it again below. The disrepectful tone, where
    > given, is for those disrespectful to me through the postings. This is
    > also a formula for meeting royalty but you can use it for attracting
    > just about anything:
    >
    > There was no risk in you believing that I have a royal friend. In fact
    > if you became my friend (after seeing your nasty postings to me this
    > is unlikely)I might have introduced you. You actually could have been
    > flying to Monaco (land in Nice) on the royal plane for a week of
    > massages and relaxation. You have to have an open mind and sincere
    > manners when it comes to all people. That's how I met my princess
    > friend. Mick Jagger met Kieth Richards on a train platform. What would
    > have happened if Mick told Kieth he was a moron and to "go away"?
    >
    > I can tell you for a fact that there are some very rich people in this
    > world who don't look or act like it. Some look like tramps. You should
    > give everyone respect if respect is given to you in any case. But
    > sometime in your life you may have run into someone, quickly judged
    > them and made some sarcastic remark. Well, that person you said that
    > to may have been someone who may have allowed you to travel around
    > Europe in total luxury for the rest of your life. But now you sit at
    > your computer wishing you could afford even budget travel. I'm not
    > saying be nice to everyone and sooner or later someone will give you a
    > fortune (but it does happen - fact). I'm just saying to treat all
    > people with sincere respect regardless if you you don't like the way
    > they look, sound or say. True story: I almost hung up on a billionaire
    > because he sounded like he was from a lower class - he was! but built
    > many successful companies and was a billionaire. I have learned. Yes I
    > have learned. And so should you. So shut up and read the formula:
    >
    > My royal friend, her family and friends have impeccable manners and my
    > guess is that most royals do. You're much more likely to attract good
    > people with good manners. Then the absolute belief (this is critical -
    > be respecful toward me and this idea) that you will meet royalty.
    > Sometime you'll be in the hotel or wherever and you'll meet someone.
    > That someone might be royalty. Do not force your future. Do not show
    > up at the palace uninvited. Just go about your business in a positive
    > manner expecting someday that you will meet meet royalty. You people
    > got lucky without any effort - because through me you have come one
    > step to actually meeting royalty. Heck, I have her email address. I
    > could call up her Queen Mother right now if I wanted to (but I
    > wouldn't). That's my method. Worked for me. Let me know if it works
    > for you.

Mxsmanic

Olivers writes:

    > Gina Lollabrigida (sp?) - better looking than you could possibly conceive
    > (at least back then).

Even with those Mr. Spock eyebrows?

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