Magda

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:36:52 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this:

... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:18:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
...
... >On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:24:15 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
... ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
... >
... >>Oddly all of that applies in Italy to, except for the moonshine bit.
... >
... >They just stick lemons in 150 proof alcohol and call it limoncello...
...
... I have had some lemon skin sitting in 95% alcohol for about three
... weeks now. I don't know when I will add the syrup, but apparently it
... should be around 2 - 12 weeks.
...
... It's wonderful stuff, but shouldn't be more than about 40%.

Found this recipe:

15 lemons - make sure they're good sized, not these little lime sized things they call
lemons. If you can only get small ones, up the quantity accordingly.

2 x 750 ml bottles of 100 proof vodka. No, 80 proof will not cut it here. Go to another
store if you can't find the 100 proof where you shop.

4 cups sugar

5 cups water

Scrub lemons with soap and water using scrubbie and rinse very clean. You're trying to get
the waxes off the peel here.

Remove zest off all the lemons, being careful not to include the pith. Don't worry about
being neat about the pieces, it makes no difference. Place zest and one bottle of the
vodka into sun tea jar or other suitable glass container with a tight lid.

Place the jar in a cool, dark place for 40 days. Write this on your calendar because sure
as shit, you'll forget.

At the end of 40 days and 40 nights (hey maybe THIS is what Noah was really doing on that
ark), heat the sugar and water together until sugar dissolves. Let cool. Add sugar
mixture along with the second bottle of vodka to the jar. Put the lid back on and put
back in the cool, dark place for another 40 days. Write this on your calendar too! After
another long 40 days, strain out the lemon zest. I usually did this using coffee filters.
It was a slow process, but worked well to catch all the floating bits. If necessary, run
it through an additional straining process. Pour strained lemoncello into empty booze
bottles... come on, you've got at least TWO from the vodka you used for this and you can't
tell me that in 80 days you didn't drink anything else. You'll need four, possibly five
bottles. What the hell, fill the four and if you've got any left, toss it in a Tupperware
container and put it in the fridge. Who are you kidding, you'll be finishing it up soon
enough anyway so what's the difference?

Hatunen

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:39:06 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

    >On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:08:42 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:24:15 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    >><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:44:06 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:56:25 -0700,
    >>>>"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>Dave Frightens Me wrote:
    >>>>>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:47:18 +0100,
    >>>>>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
    >>>>>> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>David, you frequently don't understand what I'm saying, although I'm
    >>>>>>>>not sure just why! :o)
    >>>>>>>I didn't understand what you said about the US. As far as I can see,
    >>>>>>>it's societal pressure there which helps the ban works where it's in
    >>>>>>>effect. If Americans all blindly obeyed the law, drivers wouldn't exceed
    >>>>>>>the speed limit, for one example.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Well, we get into murky territory there, because speeding comes down
    >>>>>> largely to enforcement, of which American cops are probably a whole
    >>>>>> lot better at!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I was passing comment on the differences between US and Italian
    >>>>>> culture in regards to the observation of laws. An unpopular law is
    >>>>>> much more likely to be observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion.
    >>>>>Ummm...... remember Prohibition? IIRC, that was even a
    >>>>>Constitutional ammendment, but more observed in the breach
    >>>>>by most Americans of the time. (Although it's true America
    >>>>>has become far more a nation of sheep than it was then.)
    >>>>I guess that explains why no American under the age fifty has
    >>>>ever used marijuana. And why there is no longer any moonshine
    >>>>being distilled in the Appalachian hills. And no oe drives over
    >>>>the speed limit. And why there are no kids smoking cigarettes. Or
    >>>Oddly all of that applies in Italy to, except for the moonshine bit.
    >>>Are you just trying to be disagreeable here by any chance?
    >>I'm not the one making unsuported statements about Americans and
    >>I reserve the right to challenge same. So in this case, yes, I am
    >>being intentionally disagreeable.
    >Then why do your counter statements fall over flat?
    >i.e. Italians do all those same things.

Did you actually read what I was responding to, or is this just a
knee-jerk reaction to one of my posts? I'm not setting Americans
against Italians, I'm trying to show that Americans aren't much
different than anyone else.

See the statements: "An unpopular law is much more likely to be
observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion," and "Although it's
true America has become far more a nation of sheep than it was
then"?

I would reckon the era of sheepdom for the USA might have been
the 1950s, though.

************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Magda

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:41:15 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this:

... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:26:21 +0100,
... [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
... the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
...
... >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
... >
... >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:22:18 +0100,
... >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
... >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
... >>
... >> >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
... >> >
... >> >> I know we can go round and round in circles with this stuff, because
... >> >> it does of course depend on exactly how we interpret each others
... >> >> words, but it does pass the time and give David something to get
... >> >> snappy about!
... >> >
... >> >I'm not snappy, but I think you're really talking rubbish on this
... >> >particular issue, that's all.
... >>
... >> You mean you consider some of my comments of merit?
... >
... >Wouldn't that be obvious? I've agreed with you on plenty of things
... >before. You're being rather precious today IMO.
...
... I have no idea what you mean by precious.

Think Moli�re.

David Horne

Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:36:52 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Dave Frightens
    > Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so
    > they looked like this:
[]
    > ... I have had some lemon skin sitting in 95% alcohol for about three
    > ... weeks now. I don't know when I will add the syrup, but apparently it
    > ... should be around 2 - 12 weeks.
    > ...
    > ... It's wonderful stuff, but shouldn't be more than about 40%.
    >
    > Found this recipe:

And your schnapps recipe(s)? :)

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Magda

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:11:32 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of
city south and deansgate) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:36:52 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Dave Frightens
... > Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so
... > they looked like this:
... []
... > ... I have had some lemon skin sitting in 95% alcohol for about three
... > ... weeks now. I don't know when I will add the syrup, but apparently it
... > ... should be around 2 - 12 weeks.
... > ...
... > ... It's wonderful stuff, but shouldn't be more than about 40%.
... >
... > Found this recipe:
...
... And your schnapps recipe(s)? :)

The friend who gave me the recipe called it "liqueur du vieux gar�on" - just mix alcohol,
red berries and sugar, and keep adding them as needed, when the level is going low. I have
never finished it, actually - some of the berries have been in there for so long they have
turned into pur�e! :))

David Horne

Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:11:32 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
    > [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
    > royal duchy of city south and deansgate) arranged some electrons, so they
    > looked like this:
[]
    > ... And your schnapps recipe(s)? :)
    >
    > The friend who gave me the recipe called it "liqueur du vieux gar�on"

Very English! :)

    > - just mix alcohol, red berries and sugar, and keep adding them as needed,
    > when the level is going low. I have never finished it, actually - some of
    > the berries have been in there for so long they have turned into pur�e!
    > :))

Hm... does Oscar really need his strawberries with his cereal tomorrow
morning... :)

--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://www.davidhorne.net/pictures.html http://soundjunction.org

Magda

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:25:29 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of
city south and deansgate) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:11:32 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
... > [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
... > royal duchy of city south and deansgate) arranged some electrons, so they
... > looked like this:
... []
... > ... And your schnapps recipe(s)? :)
... >
... > The friend who gave me the recipe called it "liqueur du vieux gar�on"
...
... Very English! :)

Why should it be English??

... > - just mix alcohol, red berries and sugar, and keep adding them as needed,
... > when the level is going low. I have never finished it, actually - some of
... > the berries have been in there for so long they have turned into pur�e!
... > :))
...
... Hm... does Oscar really need his strawberries with his cereal tomorrow
... morning... :)

Buy the fruits frozen - it's the same thing.

Wait three months before drinking it... That's the hardest part. :)

David Horne

Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:25:29 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
    > [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
    > royal duchy of city south and deansgate) arranged some electrons, so they
    > looked like this:
    >
    > ... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ...
    > ... > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:11:32 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
    > ... > [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
    > ... > of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) arranged some
    > ... > electrons, so they looked like this:
    > ... []
    > ... > ... And your schnapps recipe(s)? :)
    > ... >
    > ... > The friend who gave me the recipe called it "liqueur du vieux gar�on"
    > ...
    > ... Very English! :)
    >
    > Why should it be English??

Why, old boy? :)

    > ... > - just mix alcohol, red berries and sugar, and keep adding them as
    > ... > needed, when the level is going low. I have never finished it,
    > ... > actually - some of the berries have been in there for so long they
    > ... > have turned into pur�e! :))
    > ...
    > ... Hm... does Oscar really need his strawberries with his cereal tomorrow
    > ... morning... :)
    >
    > Buy the fruits frozen - it's the same thing.

That's a point, except I don't have any in the freezer!

    > Wait three months before drinking it... That's the hardest part. :)

Send it here! Oscar bought some schnapps in Salzburg as gifts for
relatives in the US- you know the kind of thing, overpriced schnapps in
cello-shaped bottles! Hopefully, the silly liquid hand luggage ban will
be over by the time we next go to the US in December....

--
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http://www.davidhorne.net/pictures.html http://soundjunction.org

Magda

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:36:57 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of
city south and deansgate) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... > ... > ... And your schnapps recipe(s)? :)
... > ... >
... > ... > The friend who gave me the recipe called it "liqueur du vieux gar�on"
... > ...
... > ... Very English! :)
... >
... > Why should it be English??
...
... Why, old boy? :)

You think that there are no old bachelors in France?!

... > ... > - just mix alcohol, red berries and sugar, and keep adding them as
... > ... > needed, when the level is going low. I have never finished it,
... > ... > actually - some of the berries have been in there for so long they
... > ... > have turned into pur�e! :))
... > ...
... > ... Hm... does Oscar really need his strawberries with his cereal tomorrow
... > ... morning... :)
... >
... > Buy the fruits frozen - it's the same thing.
...
... That's a point, except I don't have any in the freezer!

Buy them tomorrow!
(I bet it's not lacking alcohol in your cupboards... ;))

... > Wait three months before drinking it... That's the hardest part. :)
...
... Send it here! Oscar bought some schnapps in Salzburg as gifts for
... relatives in the US- you know the kind of thing, overpriced schnapps in
... cello-shaped bottles! Hopefully, the silly liquid hand luggage ban will
... be over by the time we next go to the US in December....

Dave Frightens Me

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:06:28 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:39:06 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:08:42 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:24:15 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    >>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:44:06 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:56:25 -0700,
    >>>>>"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>Dave Frightens Me wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:47:18 +0100,
    >>>>>>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
    >>>>>>> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>David, you frequently don't understand what I'm saying, although I'm
    >>>>>>>>>not sure just why! :o)
    >>>>>>>>I didn't understand what you said about the US. As far as I can see,
    >>>>>>>>it's societal pressure there which helps the ban works where it's in
    >>>>>>>>effect. If Americans all blindly obeyed the law, drivers wouldn't exceed
    >>>>>>>>the speed limit, for one example.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Well, we get into murky territory there, because speeding comes down
    >>>>>>> largely to enforcement, of which American cops are probably a whole
    >>>>>>> lot better at!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I was passing comment on the differences between US and Italian
    >>>>>>> culture in regards to the observation of laws. An unpopular law is
    >>>>>>> much more likely to be observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion.
    >>>>>>Ummm...... remember Prohibition? IIRC, that was even a
    >>>>>>Constitutional ammendment, but more observed in the breach
    >>>>>>by most Americans of the time. (Although it's true America
    >>>>>>has become far more a nation of sheep than it was then.)
    >>>>>I guess that explains why no American under the age fifty has
    >>>>>ever used marijuana. And why there is no longer any moonshine
    >>>>>being distilled in the Appalachian hills. And no oe drives over
    >>>>>the speed limit. And why there are no kids smoking cigarettes. Or
    >>>>Oddly all of that applies in Italy to, except for the moonshine bit.
    >>>>Are you just trying to be disagreeable here by any chance?
    >>>I'm not the one making unsuported statements about Americans and
    >>>I reserve the right to challenge same. So in this case, yes, I am
    >>>being intentionally disagreeable.
    >>Then why do your counter statements fall over flat?
    >>i.e. Italians do all those same things.
    >Did you actually read what I was responding to, or is this just a
    >knee-jerk reaction to one of my posts? I'm not setting Americans
    >against Italians, I'm trying to show that Americans aren't much
    >different than anyone else.

I would say there are substantial differences, just as there are
substantial similarities. Might I add that you are just as guilty of
knee-jerk reactions as anyone else here.

    >See the statements: "An unpopular law is much more likely to be
    >observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion," and "Although it's
    >true America has become far more a nation of sheep than it was
    >then"?

I was referring to your marijuana/moonshine passage.
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Dave Frightens Me

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:05:35 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:36:52 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Dave Frightens Me
    ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
    >this:
    > ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:18:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    > ...
    > ... >On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:24:15 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    > ... ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    > ... >
    > ... >>Oddly all of that applies in Italy to, except for the moonshine bit.
    > ... >
    > ... >They just stick lemons in 150 proof alcohol and call it limoncello...
    > ...
    > ... I have had some lemon skin sitting in 95% alcohol for about three
    > ... weeks now. I don't know when I will add the syrup, but apparently it
    > ... should be around 2 - 12 weeks.
    > ...
    > ... It's wonderful stuff, but shouldn't be more than about 40%.
    >Found this recipe:
    >15 lemons - make sure they're good sized, not these little lime sized things they call
    >lemons. If you can only get small ones, up the quantity accordingly.
    >2 x 750 ml bottles of 100 proof vodka. No, 80 proof will not cut it here. Go to another
    >store if you can't find the 100 proof where you shop.

Vodka? I have heard of that being used, but not here!

    >Scrub lemons with soap and water using scrubbie and rinse very clean. You're trying to get
    >the waxes off the peel here.
    >Remove zest off all the lemons, being careful not to include the pith. Don't worry about
    >being neat about the pieces, it makes no difference. Place zest and one bottle of the
    >vodka into sun tea jar or other suitable glass container with a tight lid.
    >Place the jar in a cool, dark place for 40 days. Write this on your calendar because sure
    >as shit, you'll forget.

The recipe I am going by says that the pieces of lemon skin should be
brittle when you remove them. If not, put it back for another couple
of weeks. Actually I suspect the length of time is not so crucial, as
long as it's at least a few weeks.

    >At the end of 40 days and 40 nights (hey maybe THIS is what Noah was really doing on that
    >ark), heat the sugar and water together until sugar dissolves. Let cool. Add sugar
    >mixture along with the second bottle of vodka to the jar. Put the lid back on and put
    >back in the cool, dark place for another 40 days. Write this on your calendar too! After
    >another long 40 days, strain out the lemon zest. I usually did this using coffee filters.

Pantyhose is what my neighbor swears by. He says nothing else it
better.

(Note that he's about 45 and still lives with his mother!)

    >It was a slow process, but worked well to catch all the floating bits. If necessary, run
    >it through an additional straining process. Pour strained lemoncello into empty booze
    >bottles... come on, you've got at least TWO from the vodka you used for this and you can't
    >tell me that in 80 days you didn't drink anything else. You'll need four, possibly five
    >bottles. What the hell, fill the four and if you've got any left, toss it in a Tupperware
    >container and put it in the fridge. Who are you kidding, you'll be finishing it up soon
    >enough anyway so what's the difference?

    :o)

Indeed, everyone will want to try some!
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Magda

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:37:13 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this:

... On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:05:35 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:36:52 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Dave Frightens Me
... ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
... >this:
... >
... > ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:18:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
... > ...
... > ... >On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:24:15 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
... > ... ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
... > ... >
... > ... >>Oddly all of that applies in Italy to, except for the moonshine bit.
... > ... >
... > ... >They just stick lemons in 150 proof alcohol and call it limoncello...
... > ...
... > ... I have had some lemon skin sitting in 95% alcohol for about three
... > ... weeks now. I don't know when I will add the syrup, but apparently it
... > ... should be around 2 - 12 weeks.
... > ...
... > ... It's wonderful stuff, but shouldn't be more than about 40%.
... >
... >Found this recipe:
... >
... >15 lemons - make sure they're good sized, not these little lime sized things they call
... >lemons. If you can only get small ones, up the quantity accordingly.
... >
... >2 x 750 ml bottles of 100 proof vodka. No, 80 proof will not cut it here. Go to another
... >store if you can't find the 100 proof where you shop.
...
... Vodka? I have heard of that being used, but not here!
...
... >Scrub lemons with soap and water using scrubbie and rinse very clean. You're trying to get
... >the waxes off the peel here.
... >
... >Remove zest off all the lemons, being careful not to include the pith. Don't worry about
... >being neat about the pieces, it makes no difference. Place zest and one bottle of the
... >vodka into sun tea jar or other suitable glass container with a tight lid.
... >
... >Place the jar in a cool, dark place for 40 days. Write this on your calendar because sure
... >as shit, you'll forget.
...
... The recipe I am going by says that the pieces of lemon skin should be
... brittle when you remove them. If not, put it back for another couple
... of weeks. Actually I suspect the length of time is not so crucial, as
... long as it's at least a few weeks.
...
... >At the end of 40 days and 40 nights (hey maybe THIS is what Noah was really doing on that
... >ark), heat the sugar and water together until sugar dissolves. Let cool. Add sugar
... >mixture along with the second bottle of vodka to the jar. Put the lid back on and put
... >back in the cool, dark place for another 40 days. Write this on your calendar too! After
... >another long 40 days, strain out the lemon zest. I usually did this using coffee filters.
...
... Pantyhose is what my neighbor swears by. He says nothing else it
... better.
...
... (Note that he's about 45 and still lives with his mother!)
...
... >It was a slow process, but worked well to catch all the floating bits. If necessary, run
... >it through an additional straining process. Pour strained lemoncello into empty booze
... >bottles... come on, you've got at least TWO from the vodka you used for this and you can't
... >tell me that in 80 days you didn't drink anything else. You'll need four, possibly five
... >bottles. What the hell, fill the four and if you've got any left, toss it in a Tupperware
... >container and put it in the fridge. Who are you kidding, you'll be finishing it up soon
... >enough anyway so what's the difference?
...
... :o)
...
... Indeed, everyone will want to try some!

What's a sun tea jar?

B Vaughan

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:06:28 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:39:06 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:08:42 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:24:15 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    >>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:44:06 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:56:25 -0700,
    >>>>>"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>Dave Frightens Me wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:47:18 +0100,
    >>>>>>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
    >>>>>>> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>David, you frequently don't understand what I'm saying, although I'm
    >>>>>>>>>not sure just why! :o)
    >>>>>>>>I didn't understand what you said about the US. As far as I can see,
    >>>>>>>>it's societal pressure there which helps the ban works where it's in
    >>>>>>>>effect. If Americans all blindly obeyed the law, drivers wouldn't exceed
    >>>>>>>>the speed limit, for one example.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Well, we get into murky territory there, because speeding comes down
    >>>>>>> largely to enforcement, of which American cops are probably a whole
    >>>>>>> lot better at!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I was passing comment on the differences between US and Italian
    >>>>>>> culture in regards to the observation of laws. An unpopular law is
    >>>>>>> much more likely to be observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion.
    >>>>>>Ummm...... remember Prohibition? IIRC, that was even a
    >>>>>>Constitutional ammendment, but more observed in the breach
    >>>>>>by most Americans of the time. (Although it's true America
    >>>>>>has become far more a nation of sheep than it was then.)
    >>>>>I guess that explains why no American under the age fifty has
    >>>>>ever used marijuana. And why there is no longer any moonshine
    >>>>>being distilled in the Appalachian hills. And no oe drives over
    >>>>>the speed limit. And why there are no kids smoking cigarettes. Or
    >>>>Oddly all of that applies in Italy to, except for the moonshine bit.
    >>>>Are you just trying to be disagreeable here by any chance?
    >>>I'm not the one making unsuported statements about Americans and
    >>>I reserve the right to challenge same. So in this case, yes, I am
    >>>being intentionally disagreeable.
    >>Then why do your counter statements fall over flat?
    >>i.e. Italians do all those same things.
    >Did you actually read what I was responding to, or is this just a
    >knee-jerk reaction to one of my posts? I'm not setting Americans
    >against Italians, I'm trying to show that Americans aren't much
    >different than anyone else.
    >See the statements: "An unpopular law is much more likely to be
    >observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion," and "Although it's
    >true America has become far more a nation of sheep than it was
    >then"?
    >I would reckon the era of sheepdom for the USA might have been
    >the 1950s, though.

Actually, it was Evelyn who made the sheep remark, not DFM. I don't
agree with her, either, though. I would say that maybe middle class
America at some time in the past was very obedient to the law whether
popular or not. Since may family was by no means middle class, I have
no direct experience. In the last 30 years, I think even the middle
class thumb their noses at the law.

However, I maintain that Americans are very sensitive to the opinions
of their peers. It was this that I was contesting in DFM's original
post. Certain behaviors and attitudes are socially unacceptable in the
US, and people conform very rigorously to the standard of social
acceptability. You can see this very clearly in parenting standards.
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Dave Frightens Me

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:22:01 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:37:13 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Dave Frightens Me
    ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
    >this:

    > ... Indeed, everyone will want to try some!
    >What's a sun tea jar?

Never heard of one myself. Nothing unusual when it comes to English to
hear a strange word and just assume its meaning.
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James Silverton

Hello, Dave!
You wrote on Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:45:20 +0200:

??>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:37:13 +0200, in rec.travel.europe,
Dave
??>> Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
??>> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

??>> ... Indeed, everyone will want to try some!
??>>
??>> What's a sun tea jar?

Presumably, it's an elegant jar for making sun tea. The tea is
soaked in water for a considerable time outdoors in the sun. It
is a possible process in a warm climate with lots of sun. I
can't say I have any enthusiasm for it and there are also known
bacterial infection hazards in the process even if I've never
come across anyone who came to harm

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not