"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:57:51 GMT, "a.spencer3"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected].. .
    > >> > Where's that? :-)
    > >> --
    > >
    > >Had to look it up. Virginia! :-))
    > Who are you calling Virginia? :-)
    > The Surrey with the fringe on top?
    > --

Isn't that Surry? :-))

Surreyman

"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Many wondering what happened to Europe's winter.
    > VIENNA, Austria - Bears in Slovakia are awakening early from hibernation.
    > So are barmaids in Bavaria, unseasonably busy in outdoor beer gardens.
    > Bushes are blooming in Austria, and skiers at snowless Bosnian resorts are
    > chilling out in hotel pools.
    > Forgoing a White Christmas was one thing, but the utter absence of snow
    > for weeks on end has many Europeans pining for what seems - so far,
    > anyway -
    > like the winter that wasn't. "Hope springs eternal," Austria's Kleine
    > Zeitung newspaper headlined Tuesday over a photo of a lone snowflake.
    > The country's alpine ski slopes have plenty of white stuff, but Vienna and
    > much of eastern Austria haven't had more than a dusting since early
    > December.

So? I remember similar winters when I used to go skiing there more than 30
years ago.

....
    > Even corners of southern Europe, where winter is just a state of mind,
    > have been affected. ...

I saw plenty of snow in Southern France, when I visited the Millau vidauct
over Christmas.

Colin Bignell

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:16:23 +0100, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Many wondering what happened to Europe's winter.

(snip)

Europe's winter has been on holiday in Southern California.

Gordon

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:02:16 +0100, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >in article [email protected], Mark Hewitt at
    >[email protected] wrote on 14/01/05 12:22:
    >>>
    >>> Many wondering what happened to Europe's winter.
    >>
    >> It's right here! I'm freezing my arse off today.
    >We have had such warm weather in Paris, above 10°C, the current
    >cool spell (low 1°C, high 7°) seems like an ass freezing event.
    >The facts are than the water in the gutters have not frozen
    >once this year in our quartier, and that I have not see
    >before in our 30 years here.

We had lots of frost until mid December.
--
Martin

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:43:44 GMT, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:57:51 GMT, "a.spencer3"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> >news:[email protected].. .
    >> >> > Where's that? :-)
    >> >> --
    >> >
    >> >Had to look it up. Virginia! :-))
    >> Who are you calling Virginia? :-)
    >> The Surrey with the fringe on top?
    >> --
    >Isn't that Surry? :-))

It would rhyme better but ...

Chicks and ducks and geese better scurry
When I take you out in the surrey,
When I take you out in the surrey with the fringe on top!
Watch that fringe and see how it flutters
When I drive them high steppin' strutters.
...

or slurry maybe
--
Martin

Earl Evleth wrote:

    >
    > Many wondering what happened to Europe's winter.

Ah, the weather. Many complain about it but nobody can do anything about
it. But then I could be wrong (happened before). Do you have an answer
Earl? But please don't give out with the "global warming" lefto-politic
rant. The earth has boiled and frozen many times before this era, and
will do so again. Recently we have had unprecedented rains in Southern
California and huge snowfalls in the California mountains. The European
skiers are flocking over, as I read, for the snow and the cheap dollar.
Things will change. That's the way it goes.
--
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* * * Mastering Independent Budget Travel * * *
http://www.enjoy-europe.com/
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Following up to nitram

    >Chicks and ducks and geese better scurry
    >When I take you out in the surrey,
    >When I take you out in the surrey with the fringe on top!
    >Watch that fringe and see how it flutters
    >When I drive them high steppin' strutters.

I hope you have your thumbs in your braces.
--
Mike Reid
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Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

Following up to nitram

    >>>Dead or powerless? :-)
    >>I was in Cumbria remember! :-(
    >and now you are only with us in spirit?

sorry, I survived.
--
Mike Reid
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Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:09:24 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to nitram
    >>Chicks and ducks and geese better scurry
    >>When I take you out in the surrey,
    >>When I take you out in the surrey with the fringe on top!
    >>Watch that fringe and see how it flutters
    >>When I drive them high steppin' strutters.
    >I hope you have your thumbs in your braces.

and my braces on my teeth? :-)
--
Martin

John Bermont <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Earl Evleth wrote:
    >>
    >> Many wondering what happened to Europe's winter.
    >Ah, the weather. Many complain about it but nobody can do anything about
    >it. But then I could be wrong (happened before). Do you have an answer
    >Earl? But please don't give out with the "global warming" lefto-politic
    >rant.

Why not? And what's with the "lefto-politic" tag?

The new thing now is global dimming. Why not dismiss that out of hand
before you learn anything about it?

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED

As another data point in the discussion about strange weather:
Ontario, Canada is not usually noted as having one of the world's
balmier climes, but Toronto recorded its warmest January day ever (since
records have been kept) yesterday. The temperature hit 18 C.
But that changed overnight, and we're back to -4 with an inch or so
of snow today.

-- Ron

Following up to John Bermont

    >But please don't give out with the "global warming" lefto-politic
    >rant.

Yes, the whole world except US is on a "lefto-politic" rant,
sure.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

in article [email protected], John Bermont at
[email protected] wrote on 14/01/05 17:39:

    >
    >> Many wondering what happened to Europe's winter.
    >
    > Ah, the weather. Many complain about it but nobody can do anything about
    > it.

Plagiarizing Mark Twain. But actually some people pray to what ever
supernatural power they believe influences it. Thor is the Norse god of
thunder, for instance.

    > But then I could be wrong (happened before). Do you have an answer
    > Earl? But please don't give out with the "global warming" lefto-politic
    > rant.

Actually, I posted this item without saying anything. You are the one
who thought of global warming!

    > The earth has boiled and frozen many times before this era, and
    > will do so again.

Please name dates of each event.

    > Recently we have had unprecedented rains in Southern
    > California and huge snowfalls in the California mountains.

"unprecedented", but you claim above this has all happened
before??


Earl

Dans l'article <[email protected]>, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> a écrit :


    > "nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:57:51 GMT, "a.spencer3"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> >news:[email protected].. .
    >> >> > Where's that? :-)
    >> >> --
    >> >
    >> >Had to look it up. Virginia! :-))
    >> Who are you calling Virginia? :-)
    >> The Surrey with the fringe on top?
    >> --
    > Isn't that Surry? :-))
    > Surreyman

My Webster's Dictionary says "surrey" (with or without fringe).

Donna Evleth
    >

The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > Following up to John Bermont
    >
    >>But please don't give out with the "global warming" lefto-politic
    >>rant.
    >
    > Yes, the whole world except US is on a "lefto-politic" rant,
    > sure.

I'm skeptical. It could be a media created phenomenon. There are
scientists who say there is no "global warming" taking place, some others
say there is but it's probably not caused by human activities. Those two
are relevant fractions of the scientific community but they get little
airtime. The only ones which do are those who say there's a disaster
coming up and humans are to blame. Journalists simplify this claim and
echo it over and over without much critical reflection. Actually when you
look at it from some distance, doesn't it strike you as rather biblical?
Could that be the reason the media find it so attractive?

Regards

--
Salmei Dalmei Adomei

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