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For longevity and good health come to Europe

For longevity and good health come to Europe

Old Oct 28th 2004, 3:05 pm
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Earl Evleth
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Default For longevity and good health come to Europe

Top 10 countries Number of years
longevity of Good Health
(men + women)


Country Age

Japan 81.9 75
Switzerland 80.9 73.2
Australia 80.4 72.6
Sweden 80.4 73.3
Canada 79.4 72.0
France 79.7 72.0
Italy 79.7 72.2
Singapore 79.6
Spain 79.6 72.6
Austria 79.4
USA 77.3 69.3
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 4:58 pm
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SCUBApix
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"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDA6D76C.228EE%[email protected]...
    > Top 10 countries Number of years
    > longevity of Good Health
    > (men + women)
    > Country Age
    > Japan 81.9 75
    > Switzerland 80.9 73.2
    > Australia 80.4 72.6
    > Sweden 80.4 73.3
    > Canada 79.4 72.0
    > France 79.7 72.0
    > Italy 79.7 72.2
    > Singapore 79.6
    > Spain 79.6 72.6
    > Austria 79.4
    > USA 77.3 69.3

Your comments would be better served if you provided a source for your
numbers. Anyone can type of a list of countries and put numbers next to
them. You have no credibility doing it your way.
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 5:21 pm
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Earl Evleth
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in article [email protected], SCUBApix at
[email protected] wrote on 28/10/04 18:58:

    >
    > "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:BDA6D76C.228EE%[email protected]...
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Top 10 countries Number of years
    >> longevity of Good Health
    >> (men + women)
    >>
    >>
    >> Country Age
    >>
    >> Japan 81.9 75
    >> Switzerland 80.9 73.2
    >> Australia 80.4 72.6
    >> Sweden 80.4 73.3
    >> Canada 79.4 72.0
    >> France 79.7 72.0
    >> Italy 79.7 72.2
    >> Singapore 79.6
    >> Spain 79.6 72.6
    >> Austria 79.4
    >> USA 77.3 69.3
    >
    > Your comments would be better served if you provided a source for your
    > numbers. Anyone can type of a list of countries and put numbers next to
    > them. You have no credibility doing it your way.


Sorry, they are pretty standard numbers, known if you know comparative
health figures.


Wall Street Journal, European edition, this morning, page A12.

They say these are WHO figures. The WSJ reprints Washington Post
articles and I found the above table at

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Oct26.html

In fact, this is standarly known if you know WHO! Nothing unusual.

The order of changes if you look at women only. French men
are risk prone and the gap between men and women is larger
than other countries.

Earl
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 5:26 pm
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nitram
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:58:57 -0400, "SCUBApix"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:BDA6D76C.228EE%[email protected]...
    >> Top 10 countries Number of years
    >> longevity of Good Health
    >> (men + women)
    >> Country Age
    >> Japan 81.9 75
    >> Switzerland 80.9 73.2
    >> Australia 80.4 72.6
    >> Sweden 80.4 73.3
    >> Canada 79.4 72.0
    >> France 79.7 72.0
    >> Italy 79.7 72.2
    >> Singapore 79.6
    >> Spain 79.6 72.6
    >> Austria 79.4
    >> USA 77.3 69.3
    >Your comments would be better served if you provided a source for your
    >numbers. Anyone can type of a list of countries and put numbers next to
    >them. You have no credibility doing it your way.

The Netherlands is somewhere near the top of the top 10 and it isn't
even in the list.

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Martin
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 5:42 pm
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nitram
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:21:13 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >in article [email protected], SCUBApix at
    >[email protected] wrote on 28/10/04 18:58:
    >>
    >> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:BDA6D76C.228EE%[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Top 10 countries Number of years
    >>> longevity of Good Health
    >>> (men + women)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Country Age
    >>>
    >>> Japan 81.9 75
    >>> Switzerland 80.9 73.2
    >>> Australia 80.4 72.6
    >>> Sweden 80.4 73.3
    >>> Canada 79.4 72.0
    >>> France 79.7 72.0
    >>> Italy 79.7 72.2
    >>> Singapore 79.6
    >>> Spain 79.6 72.6
    >>> Austria 79.4
    >>> USA 77.3 69.3
    >>
    >> Your comments would be better served if you provided a source for your
    >> numbers. Anyone can type of a list of countries and put numbers next to
    >> them. You have no credibility doing it your way.
    >Sorry, they are pretty standard numbers, known if you know comparative
    >health figures.
    >
    >Wall Street Journal, European edition, this morning, page A12.
    >They say these are WHO figures. The WSJ reprints Washington Post
    >articles and I found the above table at
    >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Oct26.html
    >In fact, this is standarly known if you know WHO! Nothing unusual.

Details for most of the world via a link on WHO site
http://library.thinkquest.org/16665/expectancy.htm

and

http://www.mrdowling.com/800gdppercapita.html

    >The order of changes if you look at women only.

which some of us do :-)

    > French men
    >are risk prone and the gap between men and women is larger
    >than other countries.

Something to do with the size of their organs? :-)
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Martin
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 5:55 pm
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Earl Evleth
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in article [email protected], [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote on 28/10/04 19:26:

    > The Netherlands is somewhere near the top of the top 10 and it isn't
    > even in the list.


I looked at the WHO 2004 report and Netherlands for that year was, both
sexes 78.6, which would be above the USA but towards the bottom of the
list.

I did not go to the WHO originally, and in fact the life expectancy
figures are alphabetical. So the journalist doing the Washington
Post article could have missed top countries. In fact Norway
at 79.1 is not included also.

You can download the pdf files from www.Who.org, I have report
"report04.en.pdf. in front of me now.

I think American authorities have leaned on WHO a bit in recent years
since several years ago it badly rated the American healthcare system
in comparison with the European (France came in 1st, the US around 25th!).

The Bushies, in particular, would not like this kind of comparison.
The US gets mainly downrated because its system is not universal, too
many people left out. The nations current medical problem is from
the poor medical care for the underclass and the growing obesity problem.

Earl
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 5:57 pm
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Earl Evleth
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in article [email protected], [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote on 28/10/04 19:42:

    >> French men
    >> are risk prone and the gap between men and women is larger
    >> than other countries.
    >
    > Something to do with the size of their organs? :-)
    > --


Bad diet, booze and cigarettes.

And driving.

Earl
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 6:29 pm
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nitram
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Default Re: For longevity and good health come to Europe

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:55:24 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >in article [email protected], [email protected] at
    >[email protected] wrote on 28/10/04 19:26:
    >> The Netherlands is somewhere near the top of the top 10 and it isn't
    >> even in the list.
    >I looked at the WHO 2004 report and Netherlands for that year was, both
    >sexes 78.6, which would be above the USA but towards the bottom of the
    >list.

Is that the figure for at birth or for somebody who is 60?

    >I did not go to the WHO originally, and in fact the life expectancy
    >figures are alphabetical. So the journalist doing the Washington
    >Post article could have missed top countries. In fact Norway
    >at 79.1 is not included also.
    >You can download the pdf files from www.Who.org, I have report
    >"report04.en.pdf. in front of me now.

I couldn't find that on their site. Can you give the specific URL to
it. I found an annex for Healthy life expectancy for 2002

http://www.who.int/whr/2004/annex/en/
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Martin
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 7:00 pm
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Yorick
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Earl Evleth wrote:
    > Top 10 countries Number of years
    > longevity of Good Health
    > (men + women)
    > Country Age
    > Japan 81.9 75
    > Switzerland 80.9 73.2
    > Australia 80.4 72.6
    > Sweden 80.4 73.3
    > Canada 79.4 72.0
    > France 79.7 72.0
    > Italy 79.7 72.2
    > Singapore 79.6
    > Spain 79.6 72.6
    > Austria 79.4
    > USA 77.3 69.3

Your top 10 list has 11 entries :P
Japan is number 1. Why not advise people to come to Japan, but instead to
Europe?

Yorick.
 

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