On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:32:50 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:58:01 +0100, [email protected]
    >(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
    >>I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland. I
    >>think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    >>lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    >>noticed.)
    >English kids eat school dinners, not school lunches

not if they take a packed lunch to school...

Jim.

nitram <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:58:01 +0100, [email protected]
    > (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
    >
    > >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >http://www.fekids.com/kln/girls_guide/dining.html
    > >> >
    > >> >I got 8 out of 11
    > >> >
    > >> So did I. We must have dinner together sometime.
    > >
    > >I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland. I
    > >think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    > >lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    > >noticed.)
    >
    > English kids eat school dinners, not school lunches

Well, we called them "school dinners" too, but said we were eating, and
going to have, lunch. Dinner is what you had in the evening- some people
called it tea, but most where I lived called it dinner.

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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:39:57 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:

    >On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:32:50 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:58:01 +0100, [email protected]
    >>(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
    >>>I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland. I
    >>>think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    >>>lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    >>>noticed.)
    >>English kids eat school dinners, not school lunches
    >not if they take a packed lunch to school...

True :-)

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:40:22 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:

    >nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:58:01 +0100, [email protected]
    >> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
    >>
    >> >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >http://www.fekids.com/kln/girls_guide/dining.html
    >> >> >
    >> >> >I got 8 out of 11
    >> >> >
    >> >> So did I. We must have dinner together sometime.
    >> >
    >> >I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland. I
    >> >think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    >> >lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    >> >noticed.)
    >>
    >> English kids eat school dinners, not school lunches
    >Well, we called them "school dinners" too, but said we were eating, and
    >going to have, lunch. Dinner is what you had in the evening- some people
    >called it tea, but most where I lived called it dinner.

Yes!

Question 12.

You are at a restaurant in the UK with a friend and he insists on
paying the bill. Do you

(a) say no - and that you will pay.

(b) again say no when for the second time he insists on paying?

Where I come from its considered rather stupid to refuse his generous
offer twice! Let him pay!

One refusal is polite - two is stupid!

PS - I got 6 out of 11.

In article <[email protected]>,
nobody760 <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Question 12.
    >You are at a restaurant in the UK with a friend and he insists on
    >paying the bill. Do you
    >(a) say no - and that you will pay.
    >(b) again say no when for the second time he insists on paying?

As usual, the Simpson's can teach us all we need to know.

You accept his offer and mutter "sucker" under your breath ;-)

    >Where I come from its considered rather stupid to refuse his generous
    >offer twice! Let him pay!
    >One refusal is polite - two is stupid!
    >PS - I got 6 out of 11.

"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Well, we called them "school dinners" too, but said we were eating, and
    > going to have, lunch. Dinner is what you had in the evening- some people
    > called it tea, but most where I lived called it dinner.

For my parents "dinner" is what you eat around noon ("dinnertime") and also
the main meal of the day. Hence they may ask, "Do you want your dinner at
dinnertime or teatime?" They're from the west midlands.

Alan Harrison

"Donna Evleth" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
BE7A069A.6B22%[email protected]...
    > I only got 5 of 11. I was told to learn a few more manners, and I would
    > do
    > just fine in the big world out there.
    > One of the questions I answered wrong was the one on asking for catsup in
    > France. The quiz said this was a no-no, that it meant you didn't like the
    > food. I have a Dutch friend who just has to have catsup with his steak,
    > he
    > speaks no French, I asked for it for him in the restaurant where we went
    > together, no one raised an eyebrow. We went to the same restaurant
    > together
    > a number of times, the next time they all remembered that he wanted catsup
    > with his steak and brought it automatically. This was in the provinces,
    > however. Maybe our quizmaster had been only to Paris.

as a French, I would say that it depends on the restaurant. You won't be
beaten ;o) if you ask for ketchup in a famous restaurant (Bocuse, Troisgros,
La Tour D'argent, etc.), but for sure you will be considered as having a
very bad taste (and they might even not have some) just like if you would
add water in your glass of Chateau Margaux. But in a small restaurant
serving steack and french fries for lunch, this is something very common
now, like mustard...

--
Carlus

"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:58:01 +0100, [email protected]
    > > (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
    > >
    > > >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >> >http://www.fekids.com/kln/girls_guide/dining.html
    > > >> >
    > > >> >I got 8 out of 11
    > > >> >
    > > >> So did I. We must have dinner together sometime.
    > > >
    > > >I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland.
I
    > > >think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    > > >lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    > > >noticed.)
    > >
    > > English kids eat school dinners, not school lunches
    > Well, we called them "school dinners" too, but said we were eating, and
    > going to have, lunch. Dinner is what you had in the evening- some people
    > called it tea, but most where I lived called it dinner.

Unless you have it at supper time.

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:40:22 +0100, chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th'
barn wrote:

    > nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:58:01 +0100, [email protected]
    >> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
    >>
    >>>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> >http://www.fekids.com/kln/girls_guide/dining.html
    >>>> >
    >>>> >I got 8 out of 11
    >>>> >
    >>>> So did I. We must have dinner together sometime.
    >>>I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland. I
    >>>think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    >>>lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    >>>noticed.)
    >>
    >> English kids eat school dinners, not school lunches
    >
    > Well, we called them "school dinners" too, but said we were eating, and
    > going to have, lunch. Dinner is what you had in the evening- some people
    > called it tea, but most where I lived called it dinner.

School dinners, going to dinner...
Dinner at mid-day, tea in the evening. Berkshire born Berkshire bread....

--
Tim C.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 00:01:07 +0000 (UTC), ALAN HARRISON wrote:

    > "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:1gumc4q.r5muw6qo9t7uN%this_address_is_for_spa [email protected]...
    >
    >> Well, we called them "school dinners" too, but said we were eating, and
    >> going to have, lunch. Dinner is what you had in the evening- some people
    >> called it tea, but most where I lived called it dinner.
    >
    > For my parents "dinner" is what you eat around noon ("dinnertime") and also
    > the main meal of the day. Hence they may ask, "Do you want your dinner at
    > dinnertime or teatime?" They're from the west midlands.
    >
    > Alan Harrison

I haven't heard it put like that before, but I certainly feel that's the
way it is. Dinner being the main meal, and normally happening at midday.
--
Tim C.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:51:23 +0100, Miss L. Toe wrote:

    > "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:1gumc4q.r5muw6qo9t7uN%this_address_is_for_spa [email protected]...
    >> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:58:01 +0100, [email protected]
    >>> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
    >>> >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> >> "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> >>
    >>> >> >http://www.fekids.com/kln/girls_guide/dining.html
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> >I got 8 out of 11
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> So did I. We must have dinner together sometime.
    >>> >
    >>> >I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland.
    > I
    >>> >think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    >>> >lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    >>> >noticed.)
    >>> English kids eat school dinners, not school lunches
    >> Well, we called them "school dinners" too, but said we were eating, and
    >> going to have, lunch. Dinner is what you had in the evening- some people
    >> called it tea, but most where I lived called it dinner.
    >
    > Unless you have it at supper time.

Supper's just before you go to bed.
Breakfast - elevenses - dinner - tea - supper.
--
Tim C.

Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn

    >I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland. I
    >think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    >lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    >noticed.)

I got 8, never heard the Poland or German things, don't accept
the lunch/dinner, that's to do with a working class factory
canteen culture of the past, nothing to do with Scotland.
Americans eating chicken with the hands is OK in UK? I sort of
disagreed with answer. Do they think Brits don't eat fast food
chicken with hands? Then again, I have noted Americans here in ng
saying eating pizza with knife and fork is odd so I tend towards
Brits seeing US eating with hands as "they are slobs" choosing
from the available answers, I stress! In fact I think it didn't
understand UK mores, so I wonder if it really understood the ones
I know less about?
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Following up to nitram

    >English kids eat school dinners, not school lunches

because its the *main* meal of the day, that's what dinner is.
It gets associated with social standing, because the affluent
tend to eat dinner in the evening, factory workers tend (tended?)
to eat main meal at lunchtime in the works canteen and correctly
call it dinner and have (high) tea in the evening.
So posh people will absolutely refuse to talk of dinner at
lunchtime!
--
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On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:47:21 +0100, The Reids wrote:

    > Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
    >
    >>I got 9 out of 11- the two I got wrong were Poland and, yup, Scotland. I
    >>think I knew what answer they _wanted_, but I certainly never called
    >>lunch dinner! (That's a common think in the NW of England too I've
    >>noticed.)
    >
    > I got 8, never heard the Poland or German things, don't accept
    > the lunch/dinner, that's to do with a working class factory
    > canteen culture of the past, nothing to do with Scotland.
    > Americans eating chicken with the hands is OK in UK? I sort of
    > disagreed with answer. Do they think Brits don't eat fast food
    > chicken with hands? Then again, I have noted Americans here in ng
    > saying eating pizza with knife and fork is odd so I tend towards
    > Brits seeing US eating with hands as "they are slobs" choosing
    > from the available answers, I stress! In fact I think it didn't
    > understand UK mores, so I wonder if it really understood the ones
    > I know less about?

I don't remember the possible answers for the chicken thing, but if I've
got a plate of food with a chicken leg on it, I'll use the knife and fork.
I only use my fingers when there's no cutlery around, or it's a buffet.
I, like you, would regard anyone using their fingers (except perhaps at a
barbeque) as being a slob.

--
Tim C.