Jack

We will be visitng Venice, Florence and Rome in July and we want to
find budget accomadations that have effective ways to keep the
mosquitoes out.
Since I have heard most budget hotels do not have any screens to keep
mosquitoes from flying in through the windows, then we must find budget
places with air conditioning in the room that can be fully controlled
by the occupants. If necessary, we will upgrade out of the "budget"
class of hotels so we can sleep in peace, but why waste money if it can
be done cheaply?

I have heard horror stories about misleading a/c claims in Italy:

"Yes, we have air condintioning (but only in the lobby not guest
rooms)."

"Yes, we have air conditioning in guest rooms (but only certain rooms,
not this one)."

"Yes, we air conditioning in the room you reserved (but it is disabled
at night, so you will still need to open your windows and allow bugs in
as you sleep)."

If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?

Thomas

    > We will be visitng Venice, Florence and Rome in July and we want to
    > find budget accomadations that have effective ways to keep the
    > mosquitoes out.
    > Since I have heard most budget hotels do not have any screens to keep
    > mosquitoes from flying in through the windows, then we must find budget
    > places with air conditioning in the room that can be fully controlled
    > by the occupants. If necessary, we will upgrade out of the "budget"
    > class of hotels so we can sleep in peace, but why waste money if it can
    > be done cheaply?
    > I have heard horror stories about misleading a/c claims in Italy:
    > "Yes, we have air condintioning (but only in the lobby not guest
    > rooms)."
    > "Yes, we have air conditioning in guest rooms (but only certain rooms,
    > not this one)."
    > "Yes, we air conditioning in the room you reserved (but it is disabled
    > at night, so you will still need to open your windows and allow bugs in
    > as you sleep)."
    > If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    > out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    > I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    > Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?

I've always found mozzies just an irritance rather than a big problem in
Italy. Get one of those plug in insect zappers, thats enough to enjoy a good
nights sleep with the windows open without waking up with a load of itchy
bites.

Jcoulter

"Jack" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1108950775.751508.151840
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:



    >
    > If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    > out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    > I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    > Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?
    >

They will gladly inform you that mosquitoes NEVER fly as high as the
second (European first) story so there is NOTHING to worry about. Meanwhile
my wife and I find ourselves spending more for hotels with a/c because
having frown up in Minnesota and living in Forida we really don't like the
buggers.

Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn

jcoulter <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1108950775.751508.151840
    > @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    > > If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    > > out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    > > I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    > > Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?
    > >
    >
    > They will gladly inform you that mosquitoes NEVER fly as high as the
    > second (European first) story so there is NOTHING to worry about.

You're being ironic, right? I had problems with mosquitoes in Venice,
and the room was on the third level of the building.

--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

Jcoulter

[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
th' barn) wrote in news:1gsc5t9.1kynkv9iaf7qzN%
[email protected]:

    > jcoulter <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1108950775.751508.151840
    >> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> >
    >> > If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    >> > out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    >> > I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    >> > Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?
    >> >
    >>
    >> They will gladly inform you that mosquitoes NEVER fly as high as the
    >> second (European first) story so there is NOTHING to worry about.
    >
    > You're being ironic, right? I had problems with mosquitoes in Venice,
    > and the room was on the third level of the building.
    >

Yes They will inform, but you will scratch there is something inherently
against the Italian mentality about screens. One would think that a screen
seller could claen up but no one would buy them. And I have no idea why

Deep Foiled Malls

On 20 Feb 2005 17:52:55 -0800, "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >We will be visitng Venice, Florence and Rome in July and we want to
    >find budget accomadations that have effective ways to keep the
    >mosquitoes out.
    >Since I have heard most budget hotels do not have any screens to keep
    >mosquitoes from flying in through the windows, then we must find budget
    >places with air conditioning in the room that can be fully controlled
    >by the occupants. If necessary, we will upgrade out of the "budget"
    >class of hotels so we can sleep in peace, but why waste money if it can
    >be done cheaply?

Rome is not so bad as Venice by all accounts. It's quite a bit drier
down there, which seems to make a big difference.

You can just go into a chemist/drugstore ("Farmacia") and say
something like "Le zanzare mi fanno impazzire. Può aiutarmi?". Chances
are they will speak a bit of english anyway. Then they will give you
some spray that should do the trick.
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Keith

"Jack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    > out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    > I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    > Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?

I can't speak for the summer, but Florence definitely had mosquitos in
November. We had the windows open during the early evening for perhaps 30
minutes, and it was enough to wake up to 3 or 4 bites in the morning.

Milan also had its share, with me hardly getting any sleep, due to the
buzzing sound of the attackers.

Man, do I hate mosquitoes!!

Keith M
Pittsburgh

BruceB

"Jack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > We will be visitng Venice, Florence and Rome in July and we want to
    > find budget accomadations that have effective ways to keep the
    > mosquitoes out.

We've had mosquito problems in lots of places in Europe in the summer.
Worst we had was in Salzburg.
The last time we were in Venice, they were bad.

The good news is:
1. The variety that they seem to have (that we have seen, anyhow) is pretty
small, and compared to say, Minnesota or Wisconsin, harmless--unless you
have some sort of allergy to them.
2. You can keep them off you with just about any preparation that contains
"deet". Any drug store can help you there. Just take a can with you.

Interestingly, we had a room in Crete once that was full of them, but they
never bit us. Shows what 5,000 years of civilization can accomplish.

Frank F. Matthews

Thomas wrote:

    >>We will be visitng Venice, Florence and Rome in July and we want to
    >>find budget accomadations that have effective ways to keep the
    >>mosquitoes out.
    >>Since I have heard most budget hotels do not have any screens to keep
    >>mosquitoes from flying in through the windows, then we must find budget
    >>places with air conditioning in the room that can be fully controlled
    >>by the occupants. If necessary, we will upgrade out of the "budget"
    >>class of hotels so we can sleep in peace, but why waste money if it can
    >>be done cheaply?
    >>I have heard horror stories about misleading a/c claims in Italy:
    >>"Yes, we have air condintioning (but only in the lobby not guest
    >>rooms)."
    >>"Yes, we have air conditioning in guest rooms (but only certain rooms,
    >>not this one)."
    >>"Yes, we air conditioning in the room you reserved (but it is disabled
    >>at night, so you will still need to open your windows and allow bugs in
    >>as you sleep)."
    >>If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    >>out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    >>I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    >>Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?
    >
    >
    > I've always found mozzies just an irritance rather than a big problem in
    > Italy. Get one of those plug in insect zappers, thats enough to enjoy a good
    > nights sleep with the windows open without waking up with a load of itchy
    > bites.
    >
    >


What sort of insect zapper have you found that is of any help with
mosquitoes? The ones I've found only zap moths. Or, at least, only
moths wander in to get zapped.

Frank F. Matthews

jcoulter wrote:

    > "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1108950775.751508.151840
    > @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >>If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    >>out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    >>I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    >>Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?
    >
    >
    > They will gladly inform you that mosquitoes NEVER fly as high as the
    > second (European first) story so there is NOTHING to worry about. Meanwhile
    > my wife and I find ourselves spending more for hotels with a/c because
    > having frown up in Minnesota and living in Forida we really don't like the
    > buggers.


I'd give it another story but height will cure the problem.

Viking

On 20 Feb 2005 17:52:55 -0800, "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >We will be visitng Venice, Florence and Rome in July and we want to
    >find budget accomadations that have effective ways to keep the
    >mosquitoes out.
    >Since I have heard most budget hotels do not have any screens to keep
    >mosquitoes from flying in through the windows, then we must find budget
    >places with air conditioning in the room that can be fully controlled
    >by the occupants. If necessary, we will upgrade out of the "budget"
    >class of hotels so we can sleep in peace, but why waste money if it can
    >be done cheaply?

That's the problem--in my experience, it probably can't be done
cheaply.

    >I have heard horror stories about misleading a/c claims in Italy:
    >"Yes, we have air condintioning (but only in the lobby not guest
    >rooms)."
    >"Yes, we have air conditioning in guest rooms (but only certain rooms,
    >not this one)."
    >"Yes, we air conditioning in the room you reserved (but it is disabled
    >at night, so you will still need to open your windows and allow bugs in
    >as you sleep)."

The one I run across a lot is that they say they have a/c, but it's an
in-the-room unit that must be wheeled in (if it's available), plugged
into pipes and ducts leading to outside, and it doesn't actually
change the temperature of the room. But it does make a lot of noise.

It's my experience that you cannot rely on a/c unless you go to a big
chain hotel. Even if a budget hotel says they have a/c in the rooms,
it's probably that wheeled monster that does nothing at all.

    >If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    >out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    >I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    >Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?

My suggestion: take plastic window screen with you, and thumbtacks.
The screen folds easily, and you can tack it to window frames. Just
remove it in the morning, and you're set.

Or, spend a lot of money and stay at the international chain hotels.

B Vaughan

On 20 Feb 2005 17:52:55 -0800, "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    >out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    >I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    >Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?

If you're on the second floor or above, the mosquitoes won't bother
you. (Second floor in Europe equals third floor US.)

--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn

B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 20 Feb 2005 17:52:55 -0800, "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    > >out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    > >I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    > >Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?
    >
    > If you're on the second floor or above, the mosquitoes won't bother
    > you. (Second floor in Europe equals third floor US.)

You will in Venice! Believe me. (I thought mosuitoes didn't bother you
much anyway, IIRC from past posts.)

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

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"B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On 20 Feb 2005 17:52:55 -0800, "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>If the rooms had screens to allow night breezes in, while keeping bugs
    >>out, we could probably get by without air conditioning.
    >>I have heard that mosquitoes are a big problem in the summers in
    >>Venice, but are mosquitoes plentiful in Florence and Rome?
    > If you're on the second floor or above, the mosquitoes won't bother
    > you. (Second floor in Europe equals third floor US.)

Not true

    > --
    > Barbara Vaughan
    > My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot
    > it
    > I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Ralph Holz

    > Interestingly, we had a room in Crete once that was full of them, but they
    > never bit us. Shows what 5,000 years of civilization can accomplish.

You're suggesting the mozzies are civilised? :-)

Way to go. ;-)

Ralph