Ireland Itinerary
Mar 12th 2003, 10:43 pm
#31
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 02:13:25 GMT, Frank Lynch
wrote:
>On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:07:09 GMT, in a clarity of expression
>resembling Cicero, [email protected] (Mortis) wrote:
>>I'm not looking for "activities" I'm looking for sites and sights
>>I can't find at home. We don't have castles, or anything really
>>old. We are interested in the towns and the people. We plan to
>>take walking tours where possible. I'm interested in the history
>>of anyplace I go.
>I can't speak for the scenic areas (we didn't do that when we went,
>most of what we saw was historically oriented). But from the list you
>proved for Dublin, I gather you have some interest in the history, is
>that correct? I can tell you to not go to Wexford just for the square
>(I didn't see it in your list, anyway), it's historic, but Wexford is
>better for its seaside.
I mentioned history in the last line of what you quoted above.
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>On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:07:09 GMT, in a clarity of expression
>resembling Cicero, [email protected] (Mortis) wrote:
>>I'm not looking for "activities" I'm looking for sites and sights
>>I can't find at home. We don't have castles, or anything really
>>old. We are interested in the towns and the people. We plan to
>>take walking tours where possible. I'm interested in the history
>>of anyplace I go.
>I can't speak for the scenic areas (we didn't do that when we went,
>most of what we saw was historically oriented). But from the list you
>proved for Dublin, I gather you have some interest in the history, is
>that correct? I can tell you to not go to Wexford just for the square
>(I didn't see it in your list, anyway), it's historic, but Wexford is
>better for its seaside.
I mentioned history in the last line of what you quoted above.
Mar 12th 2003, 10:48 pm
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:45:40 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
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>[email protected] (Mortis) wrote:
>>On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:27:27 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
>> wrote:
>>>You can see crystal glass being made and cut in Galway, and cut
>>>Waterford from your itinerary. More time in Galway is A Good Thing.
>>>Connemara beckons.
>>Do you mean the Galway Irish Crystal Heritage Center?
>Yes. I have never been there, or to any other such enterprise -- I
>think that you will find that most Irish people don't get around to
>visiting them. Visits daily Monday to Friday, get in before 3.00 p.m.
>Contact [email protected] .The product is similar to Waterford,
>and a little less expensive.
Well, this trip is celebrating our 15th anniversary and the
traditional gift for the 15th is crystal.
>>You may have a point. It was a bartender from Galway that
>>insisted I had to do the ring, but now I found out that he's
>>never been to Dingle, so if they are that similar one should be
>>enough.
>And did he not recommend Connemara? He must be from Galway city. It's
>an odd fact that the people of Galway city generally do not rate
>Connemara. My personal favourite tour in Ireland (and I do it every
>year or two) is the circuit of Connemara. I go through Spiddal,
>Rosmuc, Cashel, Roundstone, Clifden, Letterfrack, Leenane, Lough
>Inagh, Recess, Oughterard, and back to Galway. You could spend a week
>doing it, or you can rush through it in a day. On the scale of your
>visit, I suggest two days, overnighting near Clifden.
>You get a variety of wild scenery (coastal and mountain), some pretty
>villages, Connemara National Park, Kylemore Abbey -- lots of stuff.
>PB
Thanks for the suggestions.
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>[email protected] (Mortis) wrote:
>>On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:27:27 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
>> wrote:
>>>You can see crystal glass being made and cut in Galway, and cut
>>>Waterford from your itinerary. More time in Galway is A Good Thing.
>>>Connemara beckons.
>>Do you mean the Galway Irish Crystal Heritage Center?
>Yes. I have never been there, or to any other such enterprise -- I
>think that you will find that most Irish people don't get around to
>visiting them. Visits daily Monday to Friday, get in before 3.00 p.m.
>Contact [email protected] .The product is similar to Waterford,
>and a little less expensive.
Well, this trip is celebrating our 15th anniversary and the
traditional gift for the 15th is crystal.
>>You may have a point. It was a bartender from Galway that
>>insisted I had to do the ring, but now I found out that he's
>>never been to Dingle, so if they are that similar one should be
>>enough.
>And did he not recommend Connemara? He must be from Galway city. It's
>an odd fact that the people of Galway city generally do not rate
>Connemara. My personal favourite tour in Ireland (and I do it every
>year or two) is the circuit of Connemara. I go through Spiddal,
>Rosmuc, Cashel, Roundstone, Clifden, Letterfrack, Leenane, Lough
>Inagh, Recess, Oughterard, and back to Galway. You could spend a week
>doing it, or you can rush through it in a day. On the scale of your
>visit, I suggest two days, overnighting near Clifden.
>You get a variety of wild scenery (coastal and mountain), some pretty
>villages, Connemara National Park, Kylemore Abbey -- lots of stuff.
>PB
Thanks for the suggestions.
Mar 12th 2003, 10:54 pm
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:41:59 -0000, "mul"
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>Newmarket on Fergus is a village,,Ennis would be a better choice,5 miles
>from NOF lots of nightlife there,,
What's wrong with a village? Who needs nightlife? NOF has pubs.
All we need the first night is a place to recover from the jetlag
and learn to drive on the other side of the road.
>You will be backtracking by going north to Galway, then south to
>Dingle,,though you can get the ferry [near Ennis] from Kimhill across the
>Shannon to Co Kerry. [Tarbert] then south to Tralee and Dingle.
Yes, but there's no other way of getting to Galway. And we won't
go the same route, we'll go through the burren and down the coast
on the way to Dingle and yes we plan on taking the ferry.
>The towns listed are worth visiting,,make sure you go west from Dingle,the
>best of the coastline around Slea head and the Blasket Islands, try Dick
>Macs pub on Green Street in Dingle,
>Kinsale is noted for its Resaurants..
>Unless you want to do the tourist thing [Guinness brewery,ect] 3 nights in
>Dublin is too long a stay,,,
>mul
What's wrong with the tourist thing? :-)
Thanks for the suggestions.
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>Newmarket on Fergus is a village,,Ennis would be a better choice,5 miles
>from NOF lots of nightlife there,,
What's wrong with a village? Who needs nightlife? NOF has pubs.
All we need the first night is a place to recover from the jetlag
and learn to drive on the other side of the road.
>You will be backtracking by going north to Galway, then south to
>Dingle,,though you can get the ferry [near Ennis] from Kimhill across the
>Shannon to Co Kerry. [Tarbert] then south to Tralee and Dingle.
Yes, but there's no other way of getting to Galway. And we won't
go the same route, we'll go through the burren and down the coast
on the way to Dingle and yes we plan on taking the ferry.
>The towns listed are worth visiting,,make sure you go west from Dingle,the
>best of the coastline around Slea head and the Blasket Islands, try Dick
>Macs pub on Green Street in Dingle,
>Kinsale is noted for its Resaurants..
>Unless you want to do the tourist thing [Guinness brewery,ect] 3 nights in
>Dublin is too long a stay,,,
>mul
What's wrong with the tourist thing? :-)
Thanks for the suggestions.
Mar 13th 2003, 12:20 am
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:43:17 GMT, in a clarity of expression
resembling Cicero, [email protected] (Mortis) wrote:
>I mentioned history in the last line of what you quoted above.
>
Yes. I also remembered it from when you posted "for Dublin I'm
planning on the Guiness Brewery, the book of
Kells, Kilmainham Gaol, St. Patrick's Cathedral, the national
museum and a trip up to Newgrange one morning."
Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/
resembling Cicero, [email protected] (Mortis) wrote:
>I mentioned history in the last line of what you quoted above.
>
Yes. I also remembered it from when you posted "for Dublin I'm
planning on the Guiness Brewery, the book of
Kells, Kilmainham Gaol, St. Patrick's Cathedral, the national
museum and a trip up to Newgrange one morning."
Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/
Mar 16th 2003, 3:25 pm
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
Thanks everyone for your suggestions, I am making some changes
based on the responses I received. What do you think of
Glendalough and Powerscourt?
based on the responses I received. What do you think of
Glendalough and Powerscourt?
Mar 17th 2003, 12:04 am
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
[email protected] (Mortis) wrote:
>Thanks everyone for your suggestions, I am making some changes
>based on the responses I received. What do you think of
>Glendalough and Powerscourt?
As a day trip from Dublin, well worth doing. Especially, in my
opinion, Glendalough. From Glendalough, cross the Wicklow Gap towards
Blessington, and visit Russborough Hose before returning to Dublin.
PB
>Thanks everyone for your suggestions, I am making some changes
>based on the responses I received. What do you think of
>Glendalough and Powerscourt?
As a day trip from Dublin, well worth doing. Especially, in my
opinion, Glendalough. From Glendalough, cross the Wicklow Gap towards
Blessington, and visit Russborough Hose before returning to Dublin.
PB
Mar 18th 2003, 9:56 am
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
Glendalough is worth the visit.
Powerscourt is small and useful if you have time to spare but don't go
there at the expense of something else.
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Electronics Engineering, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland (ph +353-1-6081743)
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> Thanks everyone for your suggestions, I am making some changes
> based on the responses I received. What do you think of
> Glendalough and Powerscourt?
Powerscourt is small and useful if you have time to spare but don't go
there at the expense of something else.
--
Dr Gerry Butler, CEng. MIEE (EI0CH, WEMT)
Informatics 2000 Radio Systems and Propagation Group
Electronics Engineering, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland (ph +353-1-6081743)
Dublin +_ Wicklow Mountain Rescue Team
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"Mortis" wrote in message
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> Thanks everyone for your suggestions, I am making some changes
> based on the responses I received. What do you think of
> Glendalough and Powerscourt?
Mar 18th 2003, 2:00 pm
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
As a Dubliner I have to defend the city. 3 nights is not too long.
There will be plenty to do and your trip to Newgrange will take a day
from your visit.
Newgrange is good idea and as you are in the area you should travel on
to Trim in County Meath which has the oldest Norman castle in Ireland
(10th - 11th century I think). You will remember it from the
Braveheart movie. Trim is a nice town with lots of history and a nice
walk by the river Boyne. You will also be close to the site of the
Battle of the Boyne but I'm not sure if there is much to see there.
You might be doing too much driving on your journey and remember you
want to make it to the 16th anniversary.
Mary
There will be plenty to do and your trip to Newgrange will take a day
from your visit.
Newgrange is good idea and as you are in the area you should travel on
to Trim in County Meath which has the oldest Norman castle in Ireland
(10th - 11th century I think). You will remember it from the
Braveheart movie. Trim is a nice town with lots of history and a nice
walk by the river Boyne. You will also be close to the site of the
Battle of the Boyne but I'm not sure if there is much to see there.
You might be doing too much driving on your journey and remember you
want to make it to the 16th anniversary.
Mary
Mar 18th 2003, 2:31 pm
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
On 18 Mar 2003 07:00:08 -0800, in a clarity of expression resembling
Cicero, [email protected] (Mary) wrote:
>As a Dubliner I have to defend the city. 3 nights is not too long.
>There will be plenty to do and your trip to Newgrange will take a day
>from your visit.
>Newgrange is good idea and as you are in the area you should travel on
>to Trim in County Meath which has the oldest Norman castle in Ireland
>(10th - 11th century I think). You will remember it from the
>Braveheart movie. Trim is a nice town with lots of history and a nice
>walk by the river Boyne. You will also be close to the site of the
>Battle of the Boyne but I'm not sure if there is much to see there.
>You might be doing too much driving on your journey and remember you
>want to make it to the 16th anniversary.
I would not disagree with using Dublin as a hub -- but for a trip
which has been described as once in a lifetime, of the duration
specified, I wouldn't spend three days in Dublin itself.
We had a good time in Dublin, and did not see all we could have. But
there are trade-offs, and the country (as well as the North, too) has
so much to offer.
Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/
Cicero, [email protected] (Mary) wrote:
>As a Dubliner I have to defend the city. 3 nights is not too long.
>There will be plenty to do and your trip to Newgrange will take a day
>from your visit.
>Newgrange is good idea and as you are in the area you should travel on
>to Trim in County Meath which has the oldest Norman castle in Ireland
>(10th - 11th century I think). You will remember it from the
>Braveheart movie. Trim is a nice town with lots of history and a nice
>walk by the river Boyne. You will also be close to the site of the
>Battle of the Boyne but I'm not sure if there is much to see there.
>You might be doing too much driving on your journey and remember you
>want to make it to the 16th anniversary.
I would not disagree with using Dublin as a hub -- but for a trip
which has been described as once in a lifetime, of the duration
specified, I wouldn't spend three days in Dublin itself.
We had a good time in Dublin, and did not see all we could have. But
there are trade-offs, and the country (as well as the North, too) has
so much to offer.
Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/
Mar 18th 2003, 2:38 pm
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
[email protected] (Mary) wrote:
>As a Dubliner I have to defend the city. 3 nights is not too long.
I concur.
>There will be plenty to do and your trip to Newgrange will take a day
>from your visit.
>Newgrange is good idea and as you are in the area you should travel on
>to Trim in County Meath which has the oldest Norman castle in Ireland
>(10th - 11th century I think).
Hey! The Normans didn't come here until the 12th Century.
>You will remember it from the
>Braveheart movie. Trim is a nice town with lots of history and a nice
>walk by the river Boyne. You will also be close to the site of the
>Battle of the Boyne but I'm not sure if there is much to see there.
Newgrange is very close to the battle site. Nothing much to see.
PB
>As a Dubliner I have to defend the city. 3 nights is not too long.
I concur.
>There will be plenty to do and your trip to Newgrange will take a day
>from your visit.
>Newgrange is good idea and as you are in the area you should travel on
>to Trim in County Meath which has the oldest Norman castle in Ireland
>(10th - 11th century I think).
Hey! The Normans didn't come here until the 12th Century.
>You will remember it from the
>Braveheart movie. Trim is a nice town with lots of history and a nice
>walk by the river Boyne. You will also be close to the site of the
>Battle of the Boyne but I'm not sure if there is much to see there.
Newgrange is very close to the battle site. Nothing much to see.
PB
Mar 19th 2003, 10:05 am
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
Padraig Breathnach wrote in message news:...
> [email protected] (Mary) wrote:
>
> >> >
> Hey! The Normans didn't come here until the 12th Century.
I stand corrected and here is an extract from the Heritage Ireland web
site "Trim Castle is the largest Anglo-Norman castle in Ireland. Hugh
de Lacy began construction of the castle in about 1172 but the central
tower - the keep - was not completed until the 1220's."
Mary
>
> >
> [email protected] (Mary) wrote:
>
> >> >
> Hey! The Normans didn't come here until the 12th Century.
I stand corrected and here is an extract from the Heritage Ireland web
site "Trim Castle is the largest Anglo-Norman castle in Ireland. Hugh
de Lacy began construction of the castle in about 1172 but the central
tower - the keep - was not completed until the 1220's."
Mary
>
> >
Mar 19th 2003, 11:29 am
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
[email protected] (Mary) wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach wrote in message news:...
>> [email protected] (Mary) wrote:
>>
>> >> >
>> Hey! The Normans didn't come here until the 12th Century.
>I stand corrected and here is an extract from the Heritage Ireland web
>site "Trim Castle is the largest Anglo-Norman castle in Ireland. Hugh
>de Lacy began construction of the castle in about 1172 but the central
>tower - the keep - was not completed until the 1220's."
It's okay, Mary. You may sit down now. Thank you for giving me an easy
target.
And yes, Trim Castle is worth a visit.
PB
>Padraig Breathnach wrote in message news:...
>> [email protected] (Mary) wrote:
>>
>> >> >
>> Hey! The Normans didn't come here until the 12th Century.
>I stand corrected and here is an extract from the Heritage Ireland web
>site "Trim Castle is the largest Anglo-Norman castle in Ireland. Hugh
>de Lacy began construction of the castle in about 1172 but the central
>tower - the keep - was not completed until the 1220's."
It's okay, Mary. You may sit down now. Thank you for giving me an easy
target.
And yes, Trim Castle is worth a visit.
PB
Mar 20th 2003, 3:32 am
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
[email protected] (Mortis) wrote in message news:...
> Any comments or suggestions?
> Flying into Shannon and out of Dublin for a total of 15 nights.
>
> Newmarket-on-Fergus 1 night
> Galway 2 nights
> Dingle 2 nights
> Kenmare 2 nights
> Kinsale 1 night
> Waterford 2 nights
> Kilkenny 2 nights
> Dublin 3 nights
>
> Thanks
In Dublin dont miss out the literary pub crawl (its in the grafton
street). Also if you get a chance go to Co. Wicklow, south of Dublin.
Places to go in Co. Wicklow - Powerscourt Gardens, Powerscourt
Waterfalls, Glendalough, Killmicanough, Sally Gap. These places are
very beautiful.
Have fun!!
Raman
> Any comments or suggestions?
> Flying into Shannon and out of Dublin for a total of 15 nights.
>
> Newmarket-on-Fergus 1 night
> Galway 2 nights
> Dingle 2 nights
> Kenmare 2 nights
> Kinsale 1 night
> Waterford 2 nights
> Kilkenny 2 nights
> Dublin 3 nights
>
> Thanks
In Dublin dont miss out the literary pub crawl (its in the grafton
street). Also if you get a chance go to Co. Wicklow, south of Dublin.
Places to go in Co. Wicklow - Powerscourt Gardens, Powerscourt
Waterfalls, Glendalough, Killmicanough, Sally Gap. These places are
very beautiful.
Have fun!!
Raman
Mar 24th 2003, 12:12 am
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
On 19 Mar 2003 20:32:28 -0800, [email protected] (Raman)
wrote:
>[email protected] (Mortis) wrote in message news:...
>> Any comments or suggestions?
>> Flying into Shannon and out of Dublin for a total of 15 nights.
>In Dublin dont miss out the literary pub crawl (its in the grafton
>street). Also if you get a chance go to Co. Wicklow, south of Dublin.
>Places to go in Co. Wicklow - Powerscourt Gardens, Powerscourt
>Waterfalls, Glendalough, Killmicanough, Sally Gap. These places are
>very beautiful.
>Have fun!!
>Raman
Thanks for the suggestions.
wrote:
>[email protected] (Mortis) wrote in message news:...
>> Any comments or suggestions?
>> Flying into Shannon and out of Dublin for a total of 15 nights.
>In Dublin dont miss out the literary pub crawl (its in the grafton
>street). Also if you get a chance go to Co. Wicklow, south of Dublin.
>Places to go in Co. Wicklow - Powerscourt Gardens, Powerscourt
>Waterfalls, Glendalough, Killmicanough, Sally Gap. These places are
>very beautiful.
>Have fun!!
>Raman
Thanks for the suggestions.
Mar 24th 2003, 12:14 am
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Re: Ireland Itinerary
On 18 Mar 2003 07:00:08 -0800, [email protected] (Mary)
wrote:
>As a Dubliner I have to defend the city. 3 nights is not too long.
>There will be plenty to do and your trip to Newgrange will take a day
>from your visit.
Thanks, don't worry, I know there is a lot I want to do in
Dublin. I'm not going to cut my time there short just because
some people don't like cities.
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>As a Dubliner I have to defend the city. 3 nights is not too long.
>There will be plenty to do and your trip to Newgrange will take a day
>from your visit.
Thanks, don't worry, I know there is a lot I want to do in
Dublin. I'm not going to cut my time there short just because
some people don't like cities.