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Old Apr 29th 2004 | 12:51 pm
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Sim?o Mata
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Hi,

I'm travelling this year with an InterRail pass to zones C and D.

I would like to see an updated list of all supllements for these
countrys, especially germany.

I don't seem to find an updated list, I heard that supplements changed
this year!

Thanks for your help.

Simão Mata
 
Old Apr 29th 2004 | 1:36 pm
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Lennart Petersen
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"Sim?o Mata" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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    > Hi,
    > I'm travelling this year with an InterRail pass to zones C and D.
    > I would like to see an updated list of all supllements for these
    > countrys, especially germany.
    > I don't seem to find an updated list, I heard that supplements changed
    > this year!
    > Thanks for your help.
    > Simão Mata
As for Germany AFAIK you don't need supplements for travelling EC,IC,IR
trains as those supplements are abolished. You do need a supplement for
travelling ICE,InterCityExpress trains. As for the NZ and CNL night trains
you need a reservation for sleeper,couchette but also ordinary seat
accommodation. You're granted a discount on the THALYS trains running from
Cologne.
Be aware of the many new established private railways replacing DB-services
and not honoring Interrail.
You don't need supplement for Austria,Switzerland nor Denmark except the EC
trains Copenhagen-Hamburg. Be aware again of the ,especially in
Switzerland,many private railways. Arriva in Denmark accepts Interrail ,so
do MOB,BLS,RhB,SOB in Switzerland and GySEV in Austria,Hungary.
In zone I think you need supplements for ECtrains.
 
Old Apr 29th 2004 | 11:05 pm
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Sim?o Mata
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"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Sim?o Mata" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I'm travelling this year with an InterRail pass to zones C and D.
    > > I would like to see an updated list of all supllements for these
    > > countrys, especially germany.
    > > I don't seem to find an updated list, I heard that supplements changed
    > > this year!
    > > Thanks for your help.
    > > Simão Mata
    > As for Germany AFAIK you don't need supplements for travelling EC,IC,IR
    > trains as those supplements are abolished. You do need a supplement for
    > travelling ICE,InterCityExpress trains. As for the NZ and CNL night trains
    > you need a reservation for sleeper,couchette but also ordinary seat
    > accommodation. You're granted a discount on the THALYS trains running from
    > Cologne.
    > Be aware of the many new established private railways replacing DB-services
    > and not honoring Interrail.
    > You don't need supplement for Austria,Switzerland nor Denmark except the EC
    > trains Copenhagen-Hamburg. Be aware again of the ,especially in
    > Switzerland,many private railways. Arriva in Denmark accepts Interrail ,so
    > do MOB,BLS,RhB,SOB in Switzerland and GySEV in Austria,Hungary.
    > In zone I think you need supplements for ECtrains.

Thanks a lot for your reply!

Do you know where I can get the prices of the supplements for those trains?

Again, thanks for your help.
 
Old Apr 30th 2004 | 12:43 am
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Siebrand Tilma
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[Crossposted to misc.transport.rail.europe]

[email protected] (Sim?o Mata) schreef:

    >"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >> "Sim?o Mata" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > Hi,
    >> >
    >> > I'm travelling this year with an InterRail pass to zones C and D.
    >> > I would like to see an updated list of all supllements for these
    >> > countrys, especially germany.
    >> > I don't seem to find an updated list, I heard that supplements changed
    >> > this year!
    >> > Thanks for your help.
    >> > Simão Mata
    >> As for Germany AFAIK you don't need supplements for travelling EC,IC,IR
    >> trains as those supplements are abolished. You do need a supplement for
    >> travelling ICE,InterCityExpress trains. As for the NZ and CNL night trains
    >> you need a reservation for sleeper,couchette but also ordinary seat
    >> accommodation. You're granted a discount on the THALYS trains running from
    >> Cologne.
    >> Be aware of the many new established private railways replacing DB-services
    >> and not honoring Interrail.
    >> You don't need supplement for Austria,Switzerland nor Denmark except the EC
    >> trains Copenhagen-Hamburg. Be aware again of the ,especially in
    >> Switzerland,many private railways. Arriva in Denmark accepts Interrail ,so
    >> do MOB,BLS,RhB,SOB in Switzerland and GySEV in Austria,Hungary.
    >> In zone I think you need supplements for ECtrains.
    >Thanks a lot for your reply!
    >Do you know where I can get the prices of the supplements for those trains?
    >Again, thanks for your help.

You can find some information on the official Interrail-site
<http://www.interrailnet.com/>, but the information is not always
up-to-date.

For nightttrains in and to Germany <http://www.nachtzugreise.de/>
(only in German) is a good starting point. With Interrail, you only
pay the supplement/Aufpreis. A seat will be about 3-10 euro, a berth
in a 6-person compartment about 15-25 euro.

In Denmark your pass is not valid on most private lines. It is valid
on Arriva and Vestbanen; the Nordjyske Jernbaner give you a discount.

Groeten, Siebrand
 
Old Apr 30th 2004 | 9:36 am
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Martin Stock
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"Sim?o Mata" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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    > Hi,
    > I'm travelling this year with an InterRail pass to zones C and D.
    > I would like to see an updated list of all supllements for these
    > countrys, especially germany.
Covered are all local trains of DB (S-Bahn, RB, RE, IRE) plus IR, IC, EC and
D trains.
Also nearly all local trains operated by private companies, e.g.
http://www.vogtlandbahn.de
http://www.nordostseebahn.de
http://www.alexpress.de/
and a few dozens more.

You have to pay supplements if you want to use ICE trains or night trains
For the CityNightLine trains you can find them on their homepage, e.g. for a
seat
http://www.citynightline.ch/preise/ruhe.cfm
under Aufpreis (supplement) - bottom of the page.
Other night trains are cheaper than the CityNightLine trains.

The supplement for an ICE train is the price difference between a IC train
and the ICE train on the same route. Thus you can estimated the supplement
when comparing IC and ICE prices at the DB timetable. However sometimes
these trains fellow not exactly the same route. Supplements are 2 - 25 Euro
depending on the route.

Best is to plan with the DB timetable
http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/english.html
and select "without ICE" instead of "all products". If you miss an IC train
don't want to wait 1 or 2 hours for the next, you could still jump on the
next ICE train and pay the supplement to the conductor.

If it's not just for the price, you can also ask there for the connection to
any tram or bus stop. Or under "advanced" just give the address. This
timetable covers virtually all public transport in Germany, but you'll get
prices only as long as the DB tarriff applies.



Not covered are
http://www.interconnex.com/ InterConnex Gera/Zittau - Berlin - Rostock/Binz
http://www.met.de/ Metropolitan Cologne - Hamburg
Not covered are also most museums or touristic railways
e.g.
http://www.harzbahn.de/ (Harzbahn)
http://www.zugspitze.de/zugspitze/index_en.php (Zugspitzbahn)

If in doubt with private railways: ask
(if you are going to use one of them at all - which is normally not too
likely)


    > I don't seem to find an updated list, I heard that supplements changed
    > this year!
Indeed. Until last year approx. supplements where given on the brouchure
about InterRail of DB
http://www.bahn.de/pv/view/mdb/image...e_april_04.pdf
but even they gave it up now. Only what is free and what discounts are
available elsewhere is now listed.


    > Thanks for your help.
    > Simão Mata
 
Old Apr 30th 2004 | 7:51 pm
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:36:11 +0200 Martin Stock
<[email protected]> said...

    > > I'm travelling this year with an InterRail pass to zones C and D.
    > >
    > > I would like to see an updated list of all supllements for these
    > > countrys, especially germany.
    > Covered are all local trains of DB (S-Bahn, RB, RE, IRE) plus IR, IC, EC and
    > D trains.
    > Also nearly all local trains operated by private companies, e.g.
    > http://www.vogtlandbahn.de
    > http://www.nordostseebahn.de
    > http://www.alexpress.de/
    > and a few dozens more.

Any idea where a definitive list of what private German operators accept
Inter Rail (& other rail pass products like Euro Domino) plus FIP?

--
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London, UK
Home page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
 
Old May 1st 2004 | 9:21 am
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Siebrand Tilma
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[crossposted to misc.transport.rail.europe]

"Martin Stock" <[email protected]> schreef:

    >"Sim?o Mata" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> Hi,
    >> I'm travelling this year with an InterRail pass to zones C and D.
    >> I would like to see an updated list of all supllements for these
    >> countrys, especially germany.
    >Covered are all local trains of DB (S-Bahn, RB, RE, IRE) plus IR, IC, EC and
    >D trains.
    >Also nearly all local trains operated by private companies, e.g.
    >http://www.vogtlandbahn.de
    >http://www.nordostseebahn.de
    >http://www.alexpress.de/
    >and a few dozens more.

    >Not covered are
    >http://www.interconnex.com/ InterConnex Gera/Zittau - Berlin - Rostock/Binz
    >http://www.met.de/ Metropolitan Cologne - Hamburg
    >Not covered are also most museums or touristic railways
    >e.g.
    >http://www.harzbahn.de/ (Harzbahn)
    >http://www.zugspitze.de/zugspitze/index_en.php (Zugspitzbahn)

How did you get this information? Did you contact all the companies,
or is there a list somewhere? I would be nice to know where my
Interrail pass is valid, for future trips to Germany.

Groeten, Siebrand
 
Old May 1st 2004 | 11:03 am
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Lennart Petersen
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"Siebrand Tilma" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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    > [crossposted to misc.transport.rail.europe]
    > "Martin Stock" <[email protected]> schreef:
    > >"Sim?o Mata" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >> Hi,
    > >>
    > >> I'm travelling this year with an InterRail pass to zones C and D.
    > >>
    > >> I would like to see an updated list of all supllements for these
    > >> countrys, especially germany.
    > >Covered are all local trains of DB (S-Bahn, RB, RE, IRE) plus IR, IC, EC
and
    > >D trains.
    > >Also nearly all local trains operated by private companies, e.g.
    > >http://www.vogtlandbahn.de
    > >http://www.nordostseebahn.de
    > >http://www.alexpress.de/
    > >and a few dozens more.
    > >Not covered are
    > >http://www.interconnex.com/ InterConnex Gera/Zittau - Berlin -
Rostock/Binz
    > >http://www.met.de/ Metropolitan Cologne - Hamburg
    > >Not covered are also most museums or touristic railways
    > >e.g.
    > >http://www.harzbahn.de/ (Harzbahn)
    > >http://www.zugspitze.de/zugspitze/index_en.php (Zugspitzbahn)
    > How did you get this information? Did you contact all the companies,
    > or is there a list somewhere? I would be nice to know where my
    > Interrail pass is valid, for future trips to Germany.
    > Groeten, Siebrand
I've mailed some of them. One ,EVB ,answered as
"Thanks for your mail
Sorry,but the questioned passes are unfortunately not valid on EVB trains as
we do not get any money for those passes by Deutsche Bahn AG.
Anyway,we would be pleased to welcome you on our trains.
Best regards xxxx"
As you I would really like to see an official confirmed list of those
operators honoring rail passes in Germany.
 
Old May 1st 2004 | 11:08 am
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Siebrand Tilma <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>...
    >
    > How did you get this information? Did you contact all the companies,
    > or is there a list somewhere? I would be nice to know where my
    > Interrail pass is valid, for future trips to Germany.

Indeed. I always found it amazing that you can buy a pass without anyone
telling you where it's valid. :-/

In my (limited) observation, I think that most "new" transport companies,
who took over the transport from DB Regio after a bidding process, often
accept InterRail (and DB tariffs); while "old" private railways often do
not. But I'm not sure wether this observation true fro all Germany.

Regards,
David
 
Old May 1st 2004 | 7:04 pm
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"David Eerdmans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:01c42fd1$39cb1f60$9600000a@computer...
    > Siebrand Tilma <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>...
    > >
    > > How did you get this information? Did you contact all the companies,
    > > or is there a list somewhere? I would be nice to know where my
    > > Interrail pass is valid, for future trips to Germany.
    > Indeed. I always found it amazing that you can buy a pass without anyone
    > telling you where it's valid. :-/

I think that this is the difference between theory and practice.

In theory there is a list (I was given one once) available to
purchasors of the card.

In practice the ticket sellers don't a have a supply of this list
to give to purchasors.

    > In my (limited) observation, I think that most "new" transport companies,
    > who took over the transport from DB Regio after a bidding process, often
    > accept InterRail (and DB tariffs); while "old" private railways often do
    > not. But I'm not sure wether this observation true fro all Germany.

This was my observation to. It seems to match the railways that
accept Lander and Happy weekend tickets. It could be that this
is an obligation of taking over those contracts. Not working this
way would would lead to anomalies where the 'privatised'
companies share tracks and routes with DB.

tim


    > Regards,
    > David
 
Old May 1st 2004 | 9:13 pm
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On Sun, 2 May 2004 09:04:16 +0200 tim <520010973502removethis@t-
online.de> said...

    > > > How did you get this information? Did you contact all the companies,
    > > > or is there a list somewhere? I would be nice to know where my
    > > > Interrail pass is valid, for future trips to Germany.
    > >
    > > Indeed. I always found it amazing that you can buy a pass without anyone
    > > telling you where it's valid. :-/
    >
    > I think that this is the difference between theory and practice.
    >
    > In theory there is a list (I was given one once) available to
    > purchasors of the card.

And I think you'll find as far as Germany is concerned it is very vague
as regards which private operators accept it. Basically information
given out it makes no mention, so the normal traveller will probably
think it won't. The official Inter Rail site www.interrailnet.com too
makes no mention of private German operators and the ticket cover says
just DB. However the same site is spot on regarding say the validity and
discount information in Switzerland. Ditto for the official Eurail pass
site www.eurail.com

    > In practice the ticket sellers don't a have a supply of this list
    > to give to purchasors.

I've heard bad reports of DB's UK sales outlet in the UK being very vague
about Inter Rail validity in Germany, the same goes for DB's own products
- they have been known to draw a complete blank for requests as regards
the maps or boundary stations for their regional "Länder Tickets".

    > This was my observation to. It seems to match the railways that
    > accept Lander and Happy weekend tickets. It could be that this
    > is an obligation of taking over those contracts. Not working this
    > way would would lead to anomalies where the 'privatised'
    > companies share tracks and routes with DB.

So again, is there a published list somewhere?

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Old May 2nd 2004 | 12:43 am
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Rian van der Borgt
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On Sat, 1 May 2004 08:51:39 +0100, Phil Richards wrote:
    >Any idea where a definitive list of what private German operators accept
    >Inter Rail (& other rail pass products like Euro Domino) plus FIP?

I tried to get such a list from DB customer service half a year ago.
They were unable to give me one.

Regards,

Rian

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Old May 2nd 2004 | 6:40 pm
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Martin Hoffmann
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tim wrote:
    > "David Eerdmans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:01c42fd1$39cb1f60$9600000a@computer...
    >> In my (limited) observation, I think that most "new" transport companies,
    >> who took over the transport from DB Regio after a bidding process, often
    >> accept InterRail (and DB tariffs); while "old" private railways often do
    >> not. But I'm not sure wether this observation true fro all Germany.
    > This was my observation to. It seems to match the railways that
    > accept Lander and Happy weekend tickets.

Wouldn't count on that. Some Verkehrsverbuende accept those tickets
and therefore all the companies within do. But Inter- and EuRail are
entirely different things.

Regards,
Martin
 

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