Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn And

Jordi <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Tom Peel ha escrito:
    >
    > > >
    > > Well, the Romans spent quite a long time in Germany, and they gave the
    > > country the name under which the rest of the world knows it - Germania.
    >
    > Well, not all of the rest of the world.
    >
    > They're Nemets for Russian, Poles, etc., Allemandes for French (and
    > similar word in Spanish, etc.) Tedeschi for Italians....

Tysk (Tyskland for the country) in Norwegian, etc.

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Padraig Breathnach

Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Ken Blake wrote:

    >> But I've never seen *anybody* before call Germany a Latin
    >> country. What possible justification could there be for that
    >> usage?
    >>
    >Well, the Romans spent quite a long time in Germany, and they gave the
    >country the name under which the rest of the world knows it - Germania.
    > There are also quite a lot of German words with latin origins, for
    >example "Fenster", from the latin for window.
But, Tom, would you describe Germany as a Latin country, or German as
a romantic language?

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Jordi

chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco ha
escrito:
    > Jordi <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > Tom Peel ha escrito:
    > >
    > > > >
    > > > Well, the Romans spent quite a long time in Germany, and they gave the
    > > > country the name under which the rest of the world knows it - Germania.
    > >
    > > Well, not all of the rest of the world.
    > >
    > > They're Nemets for Russian, Poles, etc., Allemandes for French (and
    > > similar word in Spanish, etc.) Tedeschi for Italians....
    > Tysk (Tyskland for the country) in Norwegian, etc.
    >

I didn't know that one! Related to tedeschi, perhaps?


J.

Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn And

Jordi <[email protected]> wrote:

    > chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco ha
    > escrito:
    > > Jordi <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Tom Peel ha escrito:
    > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > Well, the Romans spent quite a long time in Germany, and they gave the
    > > > > country the name under which the rest of the world knows it - Germania.
    > > >
    > > > Well, not all of the rest of the world.
    > > >
    > > > They're Nemets for Russian, Poles, etc., Allemandes for French (and
    > > > similar word in Spanish, etc.) Tedeschi for Italians....
    > >
    > > Tysk (Tyskland for the country) in Norwegian, etc.
    > >
    >
    > I didn't know that one! Related to tedeschi, perhaps?

I was thinking that myself. I picked up this online just now-

"German deutsch is from Old High German diutisg and Low German theodisc,
meaning "of the people," which comes from an Indo-European root, teuta-,
meaning "tribe" or "clan." This became tuath "people" in Old Irish and
theod "people, nation in Old English."

The Italian tedesco comes from this root, as do the Swedish word tysk
and the English word Dutch, which formerly was applied to all Germans,
but gradually came to refer only to those Germanic people who inhabit
what is now the Netherlands"

from- http://www.livejournal.com/community...es/344988.html

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Padraig Breathnach

"Jordi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >ALAN HARRISON ha escrito:

    >> There are other Romance languages (derived from Latin), most notably
    >> Catalan, the giant of minority languages (though I believe it's the official
    >> language of Andorra!).
    >It is, that's why it is an accepted language at the UN.
Does that mean they have a team of translators and interpreters?

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Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn And

Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Jordi" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > >ALAN HARRISON ha escrito:
    >
    > >> There are other Romance languages (derived from Latin), most notably
    > >> Catalan, the giant of minority languages (though I believe it's the
    > >> official language of Andorra!).
    > >
    > >It is, that's why it is an accepted language at the UN.
    > >
    > Does that mean they have a team of translators and interpreters?

They may not need a team, necessarily. As with the EU, they may have
certain languages as a 'bridge' for the translators- English being the
most common. Of course, the UN has a much smaller number of official
languages- only 6, I think.

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Iceman

"Of course, the UN has a much smaller number of official languages-
only 6, I think."

English, French, Spanish, Russian, Arabic, and Chinese.

They should really drop Russian.

French they have to keep because it's the language of more than 20
African nations.

Jordi

Padraig Breathnach ha escrito:
    > "Jordi" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >ALAN HARRISON ha escrito:
    > >> There are other Romance languages (derived from Latin), most notably
    > >> Catalan, the giant of minority languages (though I believe it's the official
    > >> language of Andorra!).
    > >
    > >It is, that's why it is an accepted language at the UN.
    > >
    > Does that mean they have a team of translators and interpreters?

Not a team as such, certain key papers are translated but no
interpreter.

It has the same status as, for example, estonian.

J.

LordAvalon

    >Spain, Portugal, Italy, yes. France, Greece we tend to think of
    >as rather in that same group of non anglo saxon countries.

That is a slightly different ensemble which would be the mediterranean
countries of Europe (with the exception of Portugal which share traits
but not the sea!)

Ken Blake

In news:[email protected],
Tom Peel <[email protected]> typed:

    > Ken Blake wrote:
    >> In news:[email protected] m,
    >> Bill Wright <bilcyn*@*flash.net> typed:
    >>> I need your advice on a couple of European Countries.
    >>> The word I’m going to use is Latin, now that may not be what
    >>> they are
    >>> called and if not perhaps you can correct me.
    >>> I was telling my wife that to the best of my knowledge there
    >>> are 5
    >>> country’s in Europe that are or were called the Latin
    >>> countries.
    >>> 1. France
    >>> 2. Spain
    >>> 3. Portugal
    >>> 4. Germany
    >>> 5. Italy
    >>> Is this right or wrong? I know there is Latin America and
    >>> there
    >>> countries, but Europe I don’t know.
    >>> If these countries are called Latin countries are there more
    >>> or
    >>> just
    >>> these 5.
    >> In my view, it's not clear-cut and there no clear right or
    >> wrong.
    >> I personally don't like to use the word "Latin" for countries
    >> at
    >> all, since it's ambiguous. Some people mean Spanish-speaking
    >> countries, others mean all those which speak languages derived
    >> from Latin.
    >> But I've never seen *anybody* before call Germany a Latin
    >> country. What possible justification could there be for that
    >> usage?
    > Well, the Romans spent quite a long time in Germany, and they
    > gave the
    > country the name under which the rest of the world knows it -
    > Germania.


Well, *some* of the rest of the world.


    > There are also quite a lot of German words with latin
    > origins, for example "Fenster", from the latin for window.


Sure. There are also a lot of English words with Latin origins.
But that doesn't make English a Latin or Romance language,
either.

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Turan Fettahoglu

    > Tysk (Tyskland for the country) in Norwegian, etc.

Saksa (=Saxony) in Finland and Estland!

Turan

Padraig Breathnach

[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses
o' th' barn and prestwich tesco) wrote:

    >... I picked up this online just now-
    >"German deutsch is from Old High German diutisg and Low German theodisc,
    >meaning "of the people," which comes from an Indo-European root, teuta-,
    >meaning "tribe" or "clan." This became tuath "people" in Old Irish and
    >theod "people, nation in Old English."
The word "tuath" (pronounced TOO-ah) persists into modern Irish with
much the same meaning. I mentioned this paragraph to Herself who, like
me, has some interest in philology, but more expertise. Her response
was "You should have known (about the common root); where do you think
"teutonic" comes from?"

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Padraig Breathnach

"Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Of course, the UN has a much smaller number of official languages-
    >only 6, I think."
    >English, French, Spanish, Russian, Arabic, and Chinese.
    >They should really drop Russian.
    >French they have to keep because it's the language of more than 20
    >African nations.

And France.

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Juliana L Holm

Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:

    > And France.

And Switzerland, and a handful of Caribbean Islands (though they are part
of France Proper) and part of Canada.

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:44:05 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>"Of course, the UN has a much smaller number of official languages-
    >>only 6, I think."
    >>English, French, Spanish, Russian, Arabic, and Chinese.
    >>They should really drop Russian.
    >>French they have to keep because it's the language of more than 20
    >>African nations.
    >And France.

and one of the Belgian languages.
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