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Mike Hunt Apr 30th 2007 2:50 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
Newbie wrote:

> Calif Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> : So, you avoid all dangers?
>
> No, but I do take them into consideration. With so many options in the
> world, there is no reason not to.
>
> I believe that with the prospect of Iraq getting worse, plus US attack
> on Iran, terror attacks in major European cities are serious concern.
> Americans should be doubly concerned.
>
> YMMV, and all that.

Your kidding, right?
Rome is dangerous for US citizens??? Perhaps, but not as dangerous as
New York, LA, or Chicago.

-Newbie Apr 30th 2007 3:03 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:

: Your kidding, right?

No, the joke seems to be all yours if you are pretending that *if*
there were to be terror attacks, American would not face special risk.

Mike Hunt Apr 30th 2007 3:17 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
Newbie wrote:

> Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
> : Your kidding, right?
>
> No, the joke seems to be all yours if you are pretending that *if*
> there were to be terror attacks, American would not face special risk.

So, if I wanted to visit Spain, and there were ETA terrorist attacks,
Americans would be more in danger, because they are Americans?

Keeping Rome in mind, when was the last terrorist attack where Americans
were targeted?

Runge1 Apr 30th 2007 6:33 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
padraig speaks for himself
I love people expressing the whole humanity's point of view !
You'd better pursue your warfare against your pal donovan instead of picking
on me.

"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news: [email protected]...
> "Donald Newcomb" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Runge1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> No use posting 12 hours later the same answer others gave
>>> Satisfied ?
>>
>>If the question were one of fact (e.g. "What was the interbank Euro/Dollar
>>exchange rate on Friday of last week?") one more than one answer might
>>have
>>been superfluous. Since the OP was asking for opinions, I guess that
>>everyone is entitled to express his own as he sees fit, without seeking
>>prior approval. The other issue is that Usenet latency is not a fixed
>>thing.
>>Postings get mislaid and delayed. Even if someone provides the
>>"authoritative" answer to a question, that does not imply that everyone
>>received it. There's also the outside chance that the other author is in
>>someone's "kill file" so that his postings will never be seen.
>
> And who would killfile gRunge?
>
> Nearly everybody in rec.travel.europe, that's who.
>
> Donald, it's not worth discussing things with gRunge, and using
> reasonableness and good manners is wasted effort. Shrug your shoulders
> and get on with the more worthwhile things in life, like killing
> cockroaches.
>
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
> My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/

Runge1 Apr 30th 2007 6:34 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
yes like your pals, you plonk and read at the same time...Clever guy !
Anyway, better read evleth's insanities, eh ?

"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> a écrit
dans le message de news: [email protected]...
> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:00:40 -0500,
> "Donald Newcomb" <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>
>>"Runge1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> What more did you say than I did ??
>>> Duh
>>
>>Any your point is....?
>
> Hasn't that guy realised I plonked him a long time ago?
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Runge1 Apr 30th 2007 6:34 pm

Re: How many days to AVOID "Mike Hunt" aka "Michael Voight"...???
 
Morrow is a fine specialist

"Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news: [email protected] om...
> Mike Hunt wrote:
>
>> Deeply Filled Mortician wrote:
>> > Make credence recognised that on Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:55:21 -0500, RPS
>> > <[email protected]> has scripted:
>>
>> >>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>> >>wrote:
>>
>> >>: When are you going? Walking around Rome mid-summer is pretty hellish.
>>
>> >>Early September. It will be a stop en route to something else, so I'll
>> >>have no control over timing other than trying squeezing out an extra
>> >>day or two.
>>
>> >>I think Sep should be tolerable, but whatever it is we'd have to deal
>> >>with that.
>>
>> > It will still be hot for sure. I would make sure you have air-con in
>> > your hotel room. A good nights sleeps makes a hot day all the more
>> > tolerable.
>>
>> The average high for August is 83, which isn't too bad.
>> Isn't this what gelato is for?
>
>
> Arent' you flying down to SJC about that time to molest your
> "daughter"...???
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
>

-Newbie Apr 30th 2007 6:36 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
: So, if I wanted to visit Spain, and there were ETA terrorist attacks,
: Americans would be more in danger, because they are Americans?

Risk is by nature uncertain. Insurance companies are fabulously rich
precisely because most fears of most people do not come to pass.

An individual could visit any place, even Kabul or Basra, and have a
good chance of returning unharmed. But your chances would be better in
Helsinki or Kyoto. :) You have to decide your own risks. I have not
researched Spain/ETA and I don't know how Americans would be viewed.

: Keeping Rome in mind, when was the last terrorist attack where Americans
: were targeted?

History is a poor guide because circumstances and enemies change. Once
Germany, Japan, Italy, and Vietnam were enemies; today they are not.

My risk assessment of Rome is based upon recent circumstances,
proximity to Middle East, growth of Jihadi cells, as well as the
likelihood of bigger mess in Iraq and a US attack on Iran. This is not
prediction, just risk assessment. If you visit Rome, or Beirut, you'd
probably be fine. Most residents of NYC were unhurt on 9/11 too. :)

Shawn Hirn Apr 30th 2007 10:23 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
In article <010520070136297978%[email protected]>, Newbie <[email protected]>
wrote:

> : So, if I wanted to visit Spain, and there were ETA terrorist attacks,
> : Americans would be more in danger, because they are Americans?
>
> Risk is by nature uncertain. Insurance companies are fabulously rich
> precisely because most fears of most people do not come to pass.

With you, the terrorists won their battle. They want to restrict
Americans' freedoms and you appear to be all too happy to comply. Do
what you want, of course, but I for one will be damned if some terrorist
threat will dictate where I go and what I do. What ever happened to the
American courage that helped form the United States and kick ass in WW
II? I guess its dead and buried.

Shawn Hirn Apr 30th 2007 10:24 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:

> Shawn Hirn wrote:
>
> > In article <290420070130048983%[email protected]>, RPS <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I realize it is a vague kind of question, but I know nothing about Rome
> >>and need to decide, for how many days to break journey there. So any
> >>guidance is appreciated.
> >>
> >>Allowing one day for jet-lag and to orient ourselves, how many days at
> >>minimum are needed to get see Rome?
> >
> >
> > Definitely a vague question. How many days you need depends on what you
> > want to see. You could easily spend a year in Rome and not see all that
> > it has to offer. I suggest you get a good travel guidebook to see what
> > the options are. Rick Steves has a book that would interest you because
> > he gives ideals for people who have only a certain number of days to
> > spend in Rome.
>
> Yes, Rick Steves has a book about it. However, there are better books.
> Steves is a bit overrated, and take his advice with a grain of salt.

What book would you recommend?

Padraig Breathnach Apr 30th 2007 10:32 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
Shawn Hirn <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <010520070136297978%[email protected]>, Newbie <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> : So, if I wanted to visit Spain, and there were ETA terrorist attacks,
>> : Americans would be more in danger, because they are Americans?
>>
>> Risk is by nature uncertain. Insurance companies are fabulously rich
>> precisely because most fears of most people do not come to pass.
>
>With you, the terrorists won their battle. They want to restrict
>Americans' freedoms and you appear to be all too happy to comply. Do
>what you want, of course, but I for one will be damned if some terrorist
>threat will dictate where I go and what I do.
>
When do you plan to visit Baghdad?

>What ever happened to the
>American courage that helped form the United States and kick ass in WW
>II? I guess its dead and buried.
>
Courage isn't the issue. The phrase "lions led by donkeys" is not new.

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Deeply Filled Mortician Apr 30th 2007 10:46 pm

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:34:01 -0500,
Newbie <[email protected]> has scripted:

>Calif Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>: So, you avoid all dangers?
>
>No, but I do take them into consideration. With so many options in the
>world, there is no reason not to.
>
>I believe that with the prospect of Iraq getting worse, plus US attack
>on Iran, terror attacks in major European cities are serious concern.
>Americans should be doubly concerned.
>
>YMMV, and all that.

OK, place bets.

Is this guy a troll, or just nuts?
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Alan S May 1st 2007 12:31 am

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
On Tue, 01 May 2007 12:46:47 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Make credence recognised that on Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:34:01 -0500,
>Newbie <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>Calif Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>: So, you avoid all dangers?
>>
>>No, but I do take them into consideration. With so many options in the
>>world, there is no reason not to.
>>
>>I believe that with the prospect of Iraq getting worse, plus US attack
>>on Iran, terror attacks in major European cities are serious concern.
>>Americans should be doubly concerned.
>>
>>YMMV, and all that.
>
>OK, place bets.
>
>Is this guy a troll, or just nuts?

It doesn't have to be either/or.

Cheers, Alan, Australia
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http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/

-Newbie May 1st 2007 12:37 am

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
Shawn Hirn <[email protected]> wrote:

: With you, the terrorists won their battle...

The enemy always has a vote. However, that doesn't mean they won. That
is decided in the long run. During WW2 most Americans were not
vacationing in Berlin or Kyoto. In the end, we won, by making an honest
national effort and making sacrifices. Do you see that happening today?

Deeply Filled Mortician May 1st 2007 12:54 am

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
Make credence recognised that on Tue, 01 May 2007 06:24:16 -0400,
Shawn Hirn <[email protected]> has scripted:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
>> Shawn Hirn wrote:
>>
>> > In article <290420070130048983%[email protected]>, RPS <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>I realize it is a vague kind of question, but I know nothing about Rome
>> >>and need to decide, for how many days to break journey there. So any
>> >>guidance is appreciated.
>> >>
>> >>Allowing one day for jet-lag and to orient ourselves, how many days at
>> >>minimum are needed to get see Rome?
>> >
>> >
>> > Definitely a vague question. How many days you need depends on what you
>> > want to see. You could easily spend a year in Rome and not see all that
>> > it has to offer. I suggest you get a good travel guidebook to see what
>> > the options are. Rick Steves has a book that would interest you because
>> > he gives ideals for people who have only a certain number of days to
>> > spend in Rome.
>>
>> Yes, Rick Steves has a book about it. However, there are better books.
>> Steves is a bit overrated, and take his advice with a grain of salt.
>
>What book would you recommend?

All of them have there flaws. I use Lonely Planet out of familiarity
adn habit, Let's Go is popular, and there's also Routard. I dunno
anything much about Rick Steves, except people either like him or
loath him.
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Deeply Filled Mortician May 1st 2007 12:56 am

Re: How many days in Rome?
 
Make credence recognised that on Tue, 01 May 2007 12:37:32 GMT, Newbie
<[email protected]> has scripted:

>Shawn Hirn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>: With you, the terrorists won their battle...
>
>The enemy always has a vote. However, that doesn't mean they won. That
>is decided in the long run. During WW2 most Americans were not
>vacationing in Berlin or Kyoto.

Erm, they were war zones. I don't think Rome is quite in that league
yet.

>In the end, we won, by making an honest
>national effort and making sacrifices. Do you see that happening today?

That war was winnable, and run by men who wanted nothing more than to
win.
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