Greece - been there recently?
Jan 26th 2007, 10:14 pm
#106
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:11:40 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
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> ... necks.
>
>Naah, he will be back. Even his *ghost* can get back here! I'm not taking any chances.
The drop in the number of posts is probably directly attributable to Mixi going
MIA on a secret MS Flight Simulator action to bomb the red necks back into the
dark ages. Having downloaded the demo version, it's also possible that he died
of boredom, whilst at the controls.
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>On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:11:40 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
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>
> ... >(Only Mixi, Pig and Poodle in my list.)
> ...
> ... Mixi has gone, so you can take him out of your list and replace him with the red
> ... necks.
>
>Naah, he will be back. Even his *ghost* can get back here! I'm not taking any chances.
The drop in the number of posts is probably directly attributable to Mixi going
MIA on a secret MS Flight Simulator action to bomb the red necks back into the
dark ages. Having downloaded the demo version, it's also possible that he died
of boredom, whilst at the controls.
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Jan 29th 2007, 12:54 am
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
[email protected] schrieb:
>
> On 26 jan, 11:02, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Martin schrieb:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:41:38 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Martin schrieb:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> [email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> My first impression was always the dirt.
>>>>>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic bottles,
>>>>>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
>>>>> There are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort of thing.
>>>> Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far.
>>> and Italy?
>>> Around 19941996 I was impressed by the piles of rubbish interspersed with
>>> Nigerian prostitutes on rural roads on the southern outskirts of Rome and by the
>>> locals who dumped rubbish and picked up prostitutes on the way to work. One
>>> prostitute used to solicit from a battered armchair on top of a pile of rubbish.
>
>> Yukk. However, I don't think I said anywhere that greece is the only country
>> with that level of dirt.
>
> No, but you suggested that Spain or Portugal might be cleaner than
> Greece. From my experience, that ain't the case. Nor is it the case for
> NL, UK, France - or indeed anywhere else.
I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
Ditto for the few times I've been to France (Paris, Nice, Corsica).
I'll see Portugal this year.
Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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>
> On 26 jan, 11:02, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Martin schrieb:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:41:38 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Martin schrieb:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> [email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> My first impression was always the dirt.
>>>>>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic bottles,
>>>>>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
>>>>> There are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort of thing.
>>>> Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far.
>>> and Italy?
>>> Around 19941996 I was impressed by the piles of rubbish interspersed with
>>> Nigerian prostitutes on rural roads on the southern outskirts of Rome and by the
>>> locals who dumped rubbish and picked up prostitutes on the way to work. One
>>> prostitute used to solicit from a battered armchair on top of a pile of rubbish.
>
>> Yukk. However, I don't think I said anywhere that greece is the only country
>> with that level of dirt.
>
> No, but you suggested that Spain or Portugal might be cleaner than
> Greece. From my experience, that ain't the case. Nor is it the case for
> NL, UK, France - or indeed anywhere else.
I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
Ditto for the few times I've been to France (Paris, Nice, Corsica).
I'll see Portugal this year.
Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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Jan 29th 2007, 12:59 am
#108
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:54:09 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] schrieb:
>>
>> On 26 jan, 11:02, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Martin schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:41:38 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Martin schrieb:
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> [email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>>> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> My first impression was always the dirt.
>>>>>>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic bottles,
>>>>>>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
>>>>>> There are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort of thing.
>>>>> Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far.
>>>> and Italy?
>>>> Around 19941996 I was impressed by the piles of rubbish interspersed with
>>>> Nigerian prostitutes on rural roads on the southern outskirts of Rome and by the
>>>> locals who dumped rubbish and picked up prostitutes on the way to work. One
>>>> prostitute used to solicit from a battered armchair on top of a pile of rubbish.
>>
>>> Yukk. However, I don't think I said anywhere that greece is the only country
>>> with that level of dirt.
>>
>> No, but you suggested that Spain or Portugal might be cleaner than
>> Greece. From my experience, that ain't the case. Nor is it the case for
>> NL, UK, France - or indeed anywhere else.
>I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
>holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>Ditto for the few times I've been to France (Paris, Nice, Corsica).
>I'll see Portugal this year.
A lot depends on which part of which country you visit.
The parts of Greece that we have visited are cleaner than the part of Holland we
live in. Most of the rubbish we have seen in Greece is dumped by tourists.
Probably some of it by our locals.
--
Martin
wrote:
>[email protected] schrieb:
>>
>> On 26 jan, 11:02, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Martin schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:41:38 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Martin schrieb:
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> [email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>>> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> My first impression was always the dirt.
>>>>>>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic bottles,
>>>>>>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
>>>>>> There are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort of thing.
>>>>> Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far.
>>>> and Italy?
>>>> Around 19941996 I was impressed by the piles of rubbish interspersed with
>>>> Nigerian prostitutes on rural roads on the southern outskirts of Rome and by the
>>>> locals who dumped rubbish and picked up prostitutes on the way to work. One
>>>> prostitute used to solicit from a battered armchair on top of a pile of rubbish.
>>
>>> Yukk. However, I don't think I said anywhere that greece is the only country
>>> with that level of dirt.
>>
>> No, but you suggested that Spain or Portugal might be cleaner than
>> Greece. From my experience, that ain't the case. Nor is it the case for
>> NL, UK, France - or indeed anywhere else.
>I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
>holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>Ditto for the few times I've been to France (Paris, Nice, Corsica).
>I'll see Portugal this year.
A lot depends on which part of which country you visit.
The parts of Greece that we have visited are cleaner than the part of Holland we
live in. Most of the rubbish we have seen in Greece is dumped by tourists.
Probably some of it by our locals.
--
Martin
Jan 29th 2007, 6:32 am
#109
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] schrieb:
> >
> > On 26 jan, 11:02, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Martin schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:41:38 +0100, Volker Hetzer
> >>><[email protected]> wrote: > Martin schrieb: >> On Thu, 25
> >>>Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> >>
> >>>wrote: >>> [email protected] schrieb: >>>> On 25 jan, 09:24,
> >>>Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> My first
> >>>impression was always the dirt. >>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
> >>>>>> No. >>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty
> >>>plastic bottles, >>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot. >> There
> >>>are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort of
> >>>thing. > Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far. and
> >>>Italy? Around 19941996 I was impressed by the piles of rubbish
> >>>interspersed with Nigerian prostitutes on rural roads on the southern
> >>>outskirts of Rome and by the locals who dumped rubbish and picked up
> >>>prostitutes on the way to work. One prostitute used to solicit from a
> >>>battered armchair on top of a pile of rubbish.
> >
> >> Yukk. However, I don't think I said anywhere that greece is the only
> >> country with that level of dirt.
> >
> > No, but you suggested that Spain or Portugal might be cleaner than
> > Greece. From my experience, that ain't the case. Nor is it the case for
> > NL, UK, France - or indeed anywhere else.
> I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
> holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
B;
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> [email protected] schrieb:
> >
> > On 26 jan, 11:02, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Martin schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:41:38 +0100, Volker Hetzer
> >>><[email protected]> wrote: > Martin schrieb: >> On Thu, 25
> >>>Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> >>
> >>>wrote: >>> [email protected] schrieb: >>>> On 25 jan, 09:24,
> >>>Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> My first
> >>>impression was always the dirt. >>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
> >>>>>> No. >>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty
> >>>plastic bottles, >>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot. >> There
> >>>are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort of
> >>>thing. > Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far. and
> >>>Italy? Around 19941996 I was impressed by the piles of rubbish
> >>>interspersed with Nigerian prostitutes on rural roads on the southern
> >>>outskirts of Rome and by the locals who dumped rubbish and picked up
> >>>prostitutes on the way to work. One prostitute used to solicit from a
> >>>battered armchair on top of a pile of rubbish.
> >
> >> Yukk. However, I don't think I said anywhere that greece is the only
> >> country with that level of dirt.
> >
> > No, but you suggested that Spain or Portugal might be cleaner than
> > Greece. From my experience, that ain't the case. Nor is it the case for
> > NL, UK, France - or indeed anywhere else.
> I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
> holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
B;
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Jan 29th 2007, 7:26 am
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>
> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
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> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>
> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
--
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(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jan 29th 2007, 10:00 am
#111
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:26:46 +0000,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
>> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>>
>> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
>> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
>> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
>
>It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
>state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
>are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
>whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
>are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
>littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
>Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
(with all due respect!)
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[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
>> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>>
>> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
>> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
>> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
>
>It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
>state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
>are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
>whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
>are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
>littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
>Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
(with all due respect!)
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Jan 29th 2007, 10:30 am
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:
> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:26:46 +0000,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
> >Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >[]
> >> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
> >> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
> >>
> >> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
> >> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
> >> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
> >
> >It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
> >state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
> >are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
> >whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
> >are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
> >littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
> >Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
>
> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>
> (with all due respect!)
I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
--
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wrote:
> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:26:46 +0000,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
> >Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >[]
> >> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
> >> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
> >>
> >> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
> >> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
> >> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
> >
> >It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
> >state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
> >are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
> >whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
> >are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
> >littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
> >Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
>
> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>
> (with all due respect!)
I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jan 29th 2007, 10:35 am
#113
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:26:46 +0000,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>>
>> >Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
>> >> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>> >>
>> >> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
>> >> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
>> >> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
>> >
>> >It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
>> >state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
>> >are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
>> >whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
>> >are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
>> >littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
>> >Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
>>
>> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>>
>> (with all due respect!)
>
>I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
>Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
He's being obnoxious tonight. Masculine PMS?
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Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:26:46 +0000,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>>
>> >Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
>> >> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>> >>
>> >> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
>> >> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
>> >> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
>> >
>> >It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
>> >state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
>> >are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
>> >whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
>> >are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
>> >littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
>> >Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
>>
>> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>>
>> (with all due respect!)
>
>I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
>Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
He's being obnoxious tonight. Masculine PMS?
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Jan 29th 2007, 11:08 am
#114
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:26:46 +0000,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>>
>> >Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
>> >> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>> >>
>> >> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
>> >> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
>> >> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
>> >
>> >It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
>> >state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
>> >are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
>> >whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
>> >are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
>> >littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
>> >Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
>>
>> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>>
>> (with all due respect!)
>
>I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
>Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
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[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:26:46 +0000,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>>
>> >Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> > I've been to the UK, in fact studied there for a year and spent one short
>> >> > holiday there almost every year since then. It is /much/ cleaner.
>> >>
>> >> Well, I have to say that your experienc doesn't match mine. I suggest
>> >> you take a walk round Aberdeen on trash collection day and see if your
>> >> opinion changes after seeing what the seagulls do to trash bags.
>> >
>> >It might depend where you are, but at least in Manchester, I find the
>> >state of rubbish on the streets appalling. Most cities in Europe I visit
>> >are cleaner. It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
>> >whom live in tidy suburbs. Part of the problem is that a lot of people
>> >are messy pigs, and on the rare occasion that they get fined for
>> >littering, complain that the police ought to have better things to do.
>> >Which is true of course, but they don't get the irony.
>>
>> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>>
>> (with all due respect!)
>
>I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
>Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
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Jan 29th 2007, 2:25 pm
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:
> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> >wrote:
[]
> >> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
> >>
> >> (with all due respect!)
> >
> >I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
> >Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
>
> No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
> local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
Yes. Do you tell Italians half of the shit you post about them here?
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wrote:
> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> >wrote:
[]
> >> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
> >>
> >> (with all due respect!)
> >
> >I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
> >Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
>
> No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
> local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
Yes. Do you tell Italians half of the shit you post about them here?
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Jan 29th 2007, 8:12 pm
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:26:46 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
>whom live in tidy suburbs.
I thought it was lazyness on the part if inner city dwellers, or do
you have evidence street cleaners are diverted to the suburbs?
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> It's laziness on the part of the local government, most of
>whom live in tidy suburbs.
I thought it was lazyness on the part if inner city dwellers, or do
you have evidence street cleaners are diverted to the suburbs?
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Jan 29th 2007, 10:35 pm
#117
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:25:17 +0000,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>>
>> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>> >wrote:
>[]
>> >> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>> >>
>> >> (with all due respect!)
>> >
>> >I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
>> >Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
>>
>> No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
>> local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
>
>Yes. Do you tell Italians half of the shit you post about them here?
Probably, depending on what you mean by that.
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[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>>
>> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>> >wrote:
>[]
>> >> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>> >>
>> >> (with all due respect!)
>> >
>> >I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
>> >Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
>>
>> No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
>> local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
>
>Yes. Do you tell Italians half of the shit you post about them here?
Probably, depending on what you mean by that.
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Jan 30th 2007, 12:54 am
#118
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:
> Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:25:17 +0000,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
> >>
> >> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> >> >wrote:
> >[]
> >> >> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
> >> >>
> >> >> (with all due respect!)
> >> >
> >> >I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
> >> >Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
> >>
> >> No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
> >> local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
> >
> >Yes. Do you tell Italians half of the shit you post about them here?
>
> Probably, depending on what you mean by that.
I was thinking about what you said about them being lazy.
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wrote:
> Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:25:17 +0000,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
> >>
> >> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> >> >wrote:
> >[]
> >> >> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
> >> >>
> >> >> (with all due respect!)
> >> >
> >> >I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
> >> >Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
> >>
> >> No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
> >> local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
> >
> >Yes. Do you tell Italians half of the shit you post about them here?
>
> Probably, depending on what you mean by that.
I was thinking about what you said about them being lazy.
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Jan 30th 2007, 9:09 am
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:54:06 +0000,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:25:17 +0000,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>>
>> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
>> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>> >>
>> >> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (with all due respect!)
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
>> >> >Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
>> >>
>> >> No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
>> >> local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
>> >
>> >Yes. Do you tell Italians half of the shit you post about them here?
>>
>> Probably, depending on what you mean by that.
>
>I was thinking about what you said about them being lazy.
They aren't all that reluctant about declaring it themselves. I do
remind them when needs be.
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[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:25:17 +0000,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>>
>> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Let is be knownst that on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:54 +0000,
>> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>> >>
>> >> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >> Why don't you tell those people instead of us?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (with all due respect!)
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't get you. So every time you complain about the laziness of
>> >> >Italians, I should just tell you to tell them?
>> >>
>> >> No, I will tell them without your prompting. Do you point out to your
>> >> local folk when they leave a mess somewhere?
>> >
>> >Yes. Do you tell Italians half of the shit you post about them here?
>>
>> Probably, depending on what you mean by that.
>
>I was thinking about what you said about them being lazy.
They aren't all that reluctant about declaring it themselves. I do
remind them when needs be.
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Feb 4th 2007, 4:22 am
#120
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Re: Greece - been there recently?
In article <1hsgw75.1ufcu4r17qvdk6N%[email protected]>,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> Tonight was my last night as a visiting professor at the conservatory
> here in Barcelona, so some of the students asked if I'd like to go for a
> drink after the last class. Was 10 of us, and several rounds of beers
> and some tapas, later, I decided to pay. On the way to the bar, I
> checked to see if I had enough money, hoping 80 euros would cover it.
> The bill was 22!
Name this place!
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> Tonight was my last night as a visiting professor at the conservatory
> here in Barcelona, so some of the students asked if I'd like to go for a
> drink after the last class. Was 10 of us, and several rounds of beers
> and some tapas, later, I decided to pay. On the way to the bar, I
> checked to see if I had enough money, hoping 80 euros would cover it.
> The bill was 22!
Name this place!
