Poss

Let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of Paul & Suzie
Beckwith <[email protected]> :

    >Owain wrote:
    >> <Poss> wrote
    >> | Or Glstr if you're a Kiwi.
    >>
    >> Had an Antipodean ask me directions for the train to Lugga-burra once.
    >>
    >> Pointed him in the direction of Loughborough.
    >>
    >> Owain
    >>
    >>
    >Oh - you mean Loo-berrou...
    >Suzie B
    >--
    >"From the internet connection under the pier"
    >Southend, UK

I had a friend who lived in Luffbruff.

It's a bit like Sean Bean, innit? He should either be Seen Bean, or
Shawn Bawn.

A.Spencer3

<Poss> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of Paul & Suzie
    > Beckwith <[email protected]> :
    > >Owain wrote:
    > >
    > >> <Poss> wrote
    > >> | Or Glstr if you're a Kiwi.
    > >>
    > >> Had an Antipodean ask me directions for the train to Lugga-burra once.
    > >>
    > >> Pointed him in the direction of Loughborough.
    > >>
    > >> Owain
    > >>
    > >>
    > >Oh - you mean Loo-berrou...
    > >
    > >Suzie B
    > >--
    > >"From the internet connection under the pier"
    > >Southend, UK
    > I had a friend who lived in Luffbruff.

No, Low Brow, which is most appropriate! :-))

Surreyman

Alan Harrison

I'm from Walsall - that meks me a Wawsle mon. Some years ago, the BBC gave
consideration to how it should pronounce the name. They decided to continue
with "Wawlsawl", retaining the first L, rather than "Wawsawl". I have on
occasions been congratulated on my excellent English when I tell people
where I come from. So far I have always managed to resist the temptation to
ensure that any further piss-take of my accent is made through a gob-full of
loose teeth, because it always transpires that they think I said "Warsaw"
and must be a Pole.

Now for the real fans of strange pronunciations - how did the Walsall suburb
called Caldmore help trap a serial killer?

Alan Harrison

barney

In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] ([email protected]) wrote:

    > "bobo" wrote
    >
    > >Could someone type how to pronounce Gloucester?
    > >Recently spent a week in London and that was my tube stop.
    > >Never understood how to pronounce it.
    >
    > Be careful! You could have finished up in Gloucester - about
    > a hundred miles from your tube stop.

That's a good point - the American habit of dropping "street" (or "avenue"
or whatever), as in "I'll meet you at the corner of State and Main", is
almost unheard of in Britain. Indeed, I can't say I've noticed people in
other European countries routinely dropping "rue" or "via" or "strasse" or
what-have-you, though occasionally very long road names may be shortened
in conversation.

barney

In article <phTFc.104210$E84.34766@edtnps89>, [email protected] (David
Gee) wrote:

    > Right! That's Gloss- ter - shire (where they make the cheese!).
    >
    > Not to be confused with Worcestershire, where they make the sauce

Or Towcester, where they don't (as far as I know) make toasters.

    > (I know I'm going to regret this somehow ..... )

You will, David, you will.

James Silverton

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected] >,
    > [email protected] ([email protected]) wrote:
    > > "bobo" wrote
    > >
    > > >Could someone type how to pronounce Gloucester?
    > > >Recently spent a week in London and that was my tube stop.
    > > >Never understood how to pronounce it.
    > >
    > > Be careful! You could have finished up in Gloucester - about
    > > a hundred miles from your tube stop.
    > That's a good point - the American habit of dropping "street" (or
"avenue"
    > or whatever), as in "I'll meet you at the corner of State and Main",
is
    > almost unheard of in Britain. Indeed, I can't say I've noticed
people in
    > other European countries routinely dropping "rue" or "via" or
"strasse" or
    > what-have-you, though occasionally very long road names may be
shortened
    > in conversation

The US custom tends to work quite well because American towns tend to
have only one street with a particular name; no Washington Street and
Washington Avenue for instance. I don't doubt that someone will write
in giving examples of multiple attributions (g) !


--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland, USA

James Silverton

"a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > >> In the 50s and 60s, I remember its being pronounced with a soft
"s"
    > > sound. Nowadays, it seems invariably to be hard as in "k"; except
of
    > > course the Glasgow soccer football team Celtic.
    > >
    > 'Selts' has never been used, in my experience, and 'seltic' hardly
at all,
    > apart from the soccer team.
    > It was the name of my school house in the 1950s, and that was
definitely
    > 'Kelt'.
    > And, incidentally, I am one!

Political correctness seems to have caught on earlier in the South,
strangely enough (g)! I can't remember anyone using the hard c when I
was growing up in Oban, Argyll even tho' quite a large number of
people spoke Gaelic.

Jim.

barney

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (a.spencer3) wrote:

    >
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...

    > > Incidentally, if you are speaking of the county Gloucestershire, the
    > > last
    > > syllable is pronounced as "sheer" *not* "shyer".
    >
    > Regional differences? We'd say sher as in 'her'.

I suspect the "sher" is a truncated "sheer" (or maybe the "sheer" is an
elongated "sher").

barney

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Ken Blake) wrote:

    > In news:[email protected],
    > [email protected] <[email protected]> typed:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]> ,
    > > [email protected] (bobo) wrote:
    > >
    > >> Could someone type how to pronounce Gloucester?
    > >> Recently spent a week in London and that was my tube stop.
    > >> Never understood how to pronounce it.
    > >
    > > 'Gloss' as in 'gloss'
    >
    >
    > The problem with that statement is that not everyone pronounces
    > the vowel in "gloss" the same way. Some use the vowel in "paw,"
    > others the vowel in "pot."

True, but I think the OP was looking for clarification on Gloss vs. Glouse
(rhymes with mouse) vs. Glao-sester, and so on - the differences you
mention are accent as much as pronunciation, IWHT.

R J Carpenter

Try Ft Lauderdale where numbered "streets" run E-W and number "avenues" run
N-S. They are on a regular grid and intersect. There is, for example, the
intersection of 11th and 11th (street - avenue) - and many similar.

My relatives in Lafayette, Louisiana never use street/drive/avenue, even on
mail. It's always just the name.

S Viemeister

"a.spencer3" wrote:
    >
    > "James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote i
    > > Political correctness seems to have caught on earlier in the South,
    > > strangely enough (g)! I can't remember anyone using the hard c when I
    > > was growing up in Oban, Argyll even tho' quite a large number of
    > > people spoke Gaelic.
    > >
    >
    > In English, they said 'Selt'?
    >
My mother (in her 80s), from a Gaelic-speaking family, STILL says 'selt'.
I generally say 'kelt'.

A.Spencer3

"James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > >> In the 50s and 60s, I remember its being pronounced with a soft
    > "s"
    > > > sound. Nowadays, it seems invariably to be hard as in "k"; except
    > of
    > > > course the Glasgow soccer football team Celtic.
    > > >
    > > 'Selts' has never been used, in my experience, and 'seltic' hardly
    > at all,
    > > apart from the soccer team.
    > > It was the name of my school house in the 1950s, and that was
    > definitely
    > > 'Kelt'.
    > > And, incidentally, I am one!
    > >
    > >
    > Political correctness seems to have caught on earlier in the South,
    > strangely enough (g)! I can't remember anyone using the hard c when I
    > was growing up in Oban, Argyll even tho' quite a large number of
    > people spoke Gaelic.

In English, they said 'Selt'?

Surreyman

James Silverton

"a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
    > "James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > > "James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > >
    > > > >> In the 50s and 60s, I remember its being pronounced with a
soft
    > > "s"
    > > > > sound. Nowadays, it seems invariably to be hard as in "k";
except
    > > of
    > > > > course the Glasgow soccer football team Celtic.
    > > > >
    > > > 'Selts' has never been used, in my experience, and 'seltic'
hardly
    > > at all,
    > > > apart from the soccer team.
    > > > It was the name of my school house in the 1950s, and that was
    > > definitely
    > > > 'Kelt'.
    > > > And, incidentally, I am one!
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > Political correctness seems to have caught on earlier in the
South,
    > > strangely enough (g)! I can't remember anyone using the hard c
when I
    > > was growing up in Oban, Argyll even tho' quite a large number of
    > > people spoke Gaelic.
    > >
    > In English, they said 'Selt'?
    > Surreyman

My recollection is that they did, even if the hard c is used in
Gaelic "Cealteach" (noun and adjective). I regret that I don't have a
Gaelic dictionary handy and I am using the Irish spelling.

Jim.

barney

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (R J
Carpenter) wrote:

    >
    > Try Ft Lauderdale where numbered "streets" run E-W and number "avenues"
    > run
    > N-S. They are on a regular grid and intersect. There is, for example,
    > the
    > intersection of 11th and 11th (street - avenue) - and many similar.

Edmonton AB is the same, though IIRC it's the avenues that run E-W. The
city centre is, curiously, around 100th and 100th, not 1st and 1st.

Richard

"James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

    > The US custom tends to work quite well because American towns tend to
    > have only one street with a particular name; no Washington Street and
    > Washington Avenue for instance. I don't doubt that someone will write
    > in giving examples of multiple attributions (g) !

Manhattan.

Richard