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Old Jan 30th 2006, 2:00 pm
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Beaux Walton
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Hi guys,

I've just had a crazy thought. I'm fed up with my job, and I'm young enough
for stupid things to be justifiable, so I'm planning on quiting my job and
taking off overseas for 6-12 months. I've created a blog that mentions all
my random and crazy ideas, and would love not only for you to read it, but
if you feel the same, I would love if you would consider coming.

Check out my blog at:
http://gettinguslost.blogspot.com

Hope to hear from someone... Or anyone, soon.

Thanks,
Beaux.
 
Old Jan 31st 2006, 12:28 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to Martin
    >>What can you buy in France, that you can't buy in Waitrose?
    >When I used to go to Bologne, very good unusual French cheese and
    >wine at good prices + some good French restaurants.

You buy restaurants?

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Old Jan 31st 2006, 3:01 am
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:30:09 +1030, "Beaux Walton"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hi guys,
    >I've just had a crazy thought. I'm fed up with my job, and I'm young enough
    >for stupid things to be justifiable, so I'm planning on quiting my job and
    >taking off overseas for 6-12 months.

Sounds like that OZ / NZ syndrome. Somehow being born in one or the
other means you have constantly itchy feet.

It's like you feel the need to travel the world and tell everyone
about how great OZ / NZ is.
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Old Jan 31st 2006, 4:05 am
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"Sounds like that OZ / NZ syndrome. Somehow being born in one or the
other means you have constantly itchy feet."

If you adjust for population size, I suspect that New Zealanders are
the most well-travelled, followed by Australians and Scandinavians,
while Americans are the least well-travelled on average in the
developed world. Probably less than 1 in 20 Americans will ever get
any farther outside the US than the major European cities or a Mexican
beach resort.

"It's like you feel the need to travel the world and tell everyone
about how great OZ / NZ is."

There is also a culture of adventurousness, and more of a public
acceptance of travel. For most Americans or Japanese, taking a year
off to travel would be risking their careers. In Oz/NZ, it's almost
like a rite of passage.
 
Old Jan 31st 2006, 4:43 am
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On 31 Jan 2006 09:05:32 -0800, "Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Sounds like that OZ / NZ syndrome. Somehow being born in one or the
    >other means you have constantly itchy feet."
    >If you adjust for population size, I suspect that New Zealanders are
    >the most well-travelled, followed by Australians and Scandinavians,
    >while Americans are the least well-travelled on average in the
    >developed world. Probably less than 1 in 20 Americans will ever get
    >any farther outside the US than the major European cities or a Mexican
    >beach resort.
    >"It's like you feel the need to travel the world and tell everyone
    >about how great OZ / NZ is."
    >There is also a culture of adventurousness, and more of a public
    >acceptance of travel. For most Americans or Japanese, taking a year
    >off to travel would be risking their careers.

Is that thing real or just imagined? Surely being more worldy (and
possibly being able to speak another language) can only serve to
better ones outlook, no?
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Old Jan 31st 2006, 4:48 am
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    >> There is also a culture of adventurousness, and more of a public
    >> acceptance of travel. For most Americans or Japanese, taking a year
    >> off to travel would be risking their careers.

    > Is that thing real or just imagined? Surely being more worldy (and
    > possibly being able to speak another language) can only serve to
    > better ones outlook, no?

No, it's real. Many employers who see someone who spent a lot of time
travelling will think that (1) your career isn't your absolute first
priority in life, (2) you won't commit to spend a long time working in
one location since you like to move around, and (3) and since most
Americans' only travel experiences are beach resorts and cruises, many
of them think that all you're doing when you travel is lazing around.
 
Old Jan 31st 2006, 5:06 am
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On 31 Jan 2006 09:48:53 -0800, "Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>> There is also a culture of adventurousness, and more of a public
    >>> acceptance of travel. For most Americans or Japanese, taking a year
    >>> off to travel would be risking their careers.
    >> Is that thing real or just imagined? Surely being more worldy (and
    >> possibly being able to speak another language) can only serve to
    >> better ones outlook, no?
    >No, it's real. Many employers who see someone who spent a lot of time
    >travelling will think that (1) your career isn't your absolute first
    >priority in life, (2) you won't commit to spend a long time working in
    >one location since you like to move around, and (3) and since most
    >Americans' only travel experiences are beach resorts and cruises, many
    >of them think that all you're doing when you travel is lazing around.

I would just like to say, **** that.
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Old Jan 31st 2006, 5:07 am
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    >> No, it's real. Many employers who see someone who spent a lot of time
    >> travelling will think that (1) your career isn't your absolute first
    >> priority in life, (2) you won't commit to spend a long time working in
    >> one location since you like to move around, and (3) and since most
    >> Americans' only travel experiences are beach resorts and cruises, many
    >> of them think that all you're doing when you travel is lazing around.

    > I would just like to say, **** that.

I agree that it's BS. Unfortunately, that's what a significant
fraction of American companies do believe, so if I was giving advice to
a junior lawyer or banker, I would have to tell them that while travel
can be an incredibly rewarding, fulfilling, and challenging experience,
they should understand that long trips will be viewed very negatively
by most employers.
 
Old Jan 31st 2006, 8:38 am
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"Iceman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Sounds like that OZ / NZ syndrome. Somehow being born in one or the
    > other means you have constantly itchy feet."
Probably less than 1 in 20 Americans will ever get
    > any farther outside the US than the major European cities or a Mexican
    > beach resort.
    > "It's like you feel the need to travel the world and tell everyone
    > about how great OZ / NZ is."
    > For most Americans or Japanese, taking a year
    > off to travel would be risking their careers. In Oz/NZ, it's almost
    > like a rite of passage.

Boy, you talk with authority, but your statistics are unsupportable. One in
twenty, huh? If you mean one in twenty *poor* Americans don't travel
overseas, then you might have something. If you said one in ten *rural*
Americans don't, you might be close. But if you're talking about
cosmopolitan Americans, I'd venture that amost everyone, statistically,
travels overseas. Put differently, the people in that demographic who
*don't* travel extensively is probably your 1 in 20.

I've never heard of anyone -- not a soul -- who was afraid of losing a job
to travel. On the contrary, my travels have helped me get hired sometimes,
at least by breaking the ice during interviews, and I've had jobs that
involved overseas travel partly owing to my experience as a vacationer.

There are any number of valid reasons to criticize this country, but calling
us all travel wusses sure isn't one of them.

Keith
 
Old Jan 31st 2006, 9:50 am
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While blowing off near Two Months to travel this Spring I'll certainly
be replaced as a cook at my part time job; I'm already training my
successor...

Since I'm basically self employed in a service business I further expect
to lose any available work while I'm gone. Glad I'm on good terms with
the boss...<g> Yeah... travel 'costs' more than the price of the trip
for many... no fear though.

Tim K

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    > I've never heard of anyone -- not a soul -- who was afraid of losing a
job
    > to travel. On the contrary, my travels have helped me get hired
sometimes,
    > at least by breaking the ice during interviews, and I've had jobs that
    > involved overseas travel partly owing to my experience as a
vacationer.
 
Old Jan 31st 2006, 9:56 am
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:50:50 GMT, "Timothy Kroesen"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >While blowing off near Two Months to travel this Spring I'll certainly
    >be replaced as a cook at my part time job; I'm already training my
    >successor...

... there's always a job waiting for you in Volendam, Timothy.

You could revolutionise Volendam cuisine single handed.

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Old Jan 31st 2006, 10:04 am
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Timothy Kroesen
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Cooool! Hook me up Martin! We can be neighbors! I'll be in the
Netherlands around the middle of May concluding my Spring trip; perhaps
you need a house boy while my work permit goes through...?...<g>

Tim K

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    > ... there's always a job waiting for you in Volendam, Timothy.
    > You could revolutionise Volendam cuisine single handed.
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Old Jan 31st 2006, 10:08 am
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:04:43 GMT, "Timothy Kroesen"
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    >Cooool! Hook me up Martin! We can be neighbors!

I was thinking in terms of you setting up a hot dog stall on the beach
    :-)

    > I'll be in the
    >Netherlands around the middle of May concluding my Spring trip;

May is the best time of year to be in the Netherlands.

    > perhaps
    >you need a house boy while my work permit goes through...?...<g>

Better discuss permits with Jeremy :-)

Don't forget to bring packed lunches.
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Old Jan 31st 2006, 10:13 am
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"Boy, you talk with authority, but your statistics are unsupportable.
One in
twenty, huh? If you mean one in twenty *poor* Americans don't travel
overseas, then you might have something. If you said one in ten
*rural*
Americans don't, you might be close. But if you're talking about
cosmopolitan Americans, I'd venture that amost everyone, statistically,
travels overseas. Put differently, the people in that demographic who
*don't* travel extensively is probably your 1 in 20."

Something like only 15% of Americans own a passport. Probably 1/3 of
that 15% are recent immigrants who visit their family members in their
country of origin, and half of the other 2/3 don't go beyond Europe,
Mexico, and the Caribbean.

"I've never heard of anyone -- not a soul -- who was afraid of losing a
job
to travel. On the contrary, my travels have helped me get hired
sometimes,
at least by breaking the ice during interviews, and I've had jobs that
involved overseas travel partly owing to my experience as a
vacationer."

It's very common in certain fields, like law and investment banking.
They look for any sign that people are (in their minds) less than 100%
committed.
 
Old Jan 31st 2006, 10:24 am
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Timothy Kroesen
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I was thinking about a 'koffehuis pushcart' business... With your
bankroll and connections it could work! I'll pack you a lunch;
Volendam, here we come!

Tim

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    > On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:04:43 GMT, "Timothy Kroesen"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >Cooool! Hook me up Martin! We can be neighbors!
    > I was thinking in terms of you setting up a hot dog stall on the beach
    > :-)
    > > I'll be in the
    > >Netherlands around the middle of May concluding my Spring trip;
    > May is the best time of year to be in the Netherlands.
    > > perhaps
    > >you need a house boy while my work permit goes through...?...<g>
    > Better discuss permits with Jeremy :-)
    > Don't forget to bring packed lunches.
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