Germany Travel Tips
Aug 5th 2007, 12:29 pm
#16
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
Martin wrote:
> They don't get much worse than The Bad Hotel in Baden Baden.
I doubt that the average American or British person will exactly know
what to expect in the numerous "Back Shops" (->
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denglisch). By the way: A patriotic US
American would also never enter a shop called "Laden". CIA could be
observing this action and accuse him for sympathizing with terrorists.
Jens
> They don't get much worse than The Bad Hotel in Baden Baden.
I doubt that the average American or British person will exactly know
what to expect in the numerous "Back Shops" (->
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denglisch). By the way: A patriotic US
American would also never enter a shop called "Laden". CIA could be
observing this action and accuse him for sympathizing with terrorists.
Jens
Aug 5th 2007, 4:11 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
On Aug 5, 6:38 am, Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Tom Peel wrote:
> > You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach
> > and Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll,
> > the land that was central to the most important historical events of
> > the 20th century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at
> > McDonalds and supermarket trolleys.
>
> :-)
>
> Okay, now I *had to* click the link. I just love this one:
>
> | "Bad" in front of a towns name does not mean that the people or the
> | city is bad for example, "Bad Homburg". Bad in front of a towns
> name| normally means that the town is designated as a healthy location
> | normally with very clean air and water.
Tokyo has a famous street called Takeshita Street.
wrote:
> Tom Peel wrote:
> > You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach
> > and Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll,
> > the land that was central to the most important historical events of
> > the 20th century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at
> > McDonalds and supermarket trolleys.
>
> :-)
>
> Okay, now I *had to* click the link. I just love this one:
>
> | "Bad" in front of a towns name does not mean that the people or the
> | city is bad for example, "Bad Homburg". Bad in front of a towns
> name| normally means that the town is designated as a healthy location
> | normally with very clean air and water.
Tokyo has a famous street called Takeshita Street.
Aug 5th 2007, 4:13 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
On Aug 5, 4:52 am, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> trav wrote:
> > Germany Travel Tips
> > By: Joshua Spaulding
>
> > Restaurants and Bars - You do not get water for free, you have to pay
> > for it. If you order water you will get carbonated water. In most
> > restaurants you can request tap water and they may or may not charge
> > you but it is most likely straight from the sink. In some American
> > fast food restaurants, (i.e. McDonalds) you must pay for ketchup as
> > well. Be aware that the menus at most fast food restaurants in Germany
> > are not exactly the same. You may also notice that a sandwich that you
> > recognize from back home may taste a little different or it could be
> > smaller. When you enter a restaurant you will not be seated, just walk
> > right in and pick the table of your choice!- the tip should be much
> > smaller than you would give in the States (this is because the waiters/
> > waitresses get paid more than in the states) A tip of two or three EUR
> > would be considered a good tip for very good service.
>
> > Supermarkets - If you shop for groceries in Germany you will notice
> > the supermarkets have
>
> > Continued athttp://www.bookrentbuy.com/Germany-Travel-Tips.shtml
>
> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> and supermarket trolleys.
Can't these people just go to Disneyland and Las Vegas, and stop
overcrowding European cities which they don't appreciate anyway?
> trav wrote:
> > Germany Travel Tips
> > By: Joshua Spaulding
>
> > Restaurants and Bars - You do not get water for free, you have to pay
> > for it. If you order water you will get carbonated water. In most
> > restaurants you can request tap water and they may or may not charge
> > you but it is most likely straight from the sink. In some American
> > fast food restaurants, (i.e. McDonalds) you must pay for ketchup as
> > well. Be aware that the menus at most fast food restaurants in Germany
> > are not exactly the same. You may also notice that a sandwich that you
> > recognize from back home may taste a little different or it could be
> > smaller. When you enter a restaurant you will not be seated, just walk
> > right in and pick the table of your choice!- the tip should be much
> > smaller than you would give in the States (this is because the waiters/
> > waitresses get paid more than in the states) A tip of two or three EUR
> > would be considered a good tip for very good service.
>
> > Supermarkets - If you shop for groceries in Germany you will notice
> > the supermarkets have
>
> > Continued athttp://www.bookrentbuy.com/Germany-Travel-Tips.shtml
>
> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> and supermarket trolleys.
Can't these people just go to Disneyland and Las Vegas, and stop
overcrowding European cities which they don't appreciate anyway?
Aug 5th 2007, 5:07 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> and supermarket trolleys.
Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
a bit of a let down?
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
[]
> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> and supermarket trolleys.
Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
a bit of a let down?
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 5th 2007, 7:19 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
In article <[email protected]>,
Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> You visit the land of Luther and DÌrer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich Böll, the land
> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> and supermarket trolleys.
Visiting Germany and eating at McDonalds in the first place is REALLY
stupid!!
Castles, now, that's different! 8-)
--
Mary, biblioholic
bib-li-o-hol-ism : the habitual longing to purchase, read, store,
admire, and consume books in excess.
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> You visit the land of Luther and DÌrer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich Böll, the land
> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> and supermarket trolleys.
Visiting Germany and eating at McDonalds in the first place is REALLY
stupid!!
Castles, now, that's different! 8-)
--
Mary, biblioholic
bib-li-o-hol-ism : the habitual longing to purchase, read, store,
admire, and consume books in excess.
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Aug 5th 2007, 7:42 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>[]
>> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
>> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
>> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
>> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
>> and supermarket trolleys.
>
>Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
>a bit of a let down?
compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>[]
>> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
>> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
>> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
>> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
>> and supermarket trolleys.
>
>Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
>a bit of a let down?
compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
--
Martin
Aug 5th 2007, 8:23 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >[]
> >> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> >> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
> >> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> >> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> >> and supermarket trolleys.
> >
> >Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
> >a bit of a let down?
>
> compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
Do they?
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >[]
> >> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> >> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
> >> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> >> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> >> and supermarket trolleys.
> >
> >Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
> >a bit of a let down?
>
> compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
Do they?
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 5th 2007, 8:30 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:23:31 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >[]
>> >> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
>> >> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
>> >> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
>> >> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
>> >> and supermarket trolleys.
>> >
>> >Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
>> >a bit of a let down?
>>
>> compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
>
>Do they?
They did the last time I was in Koln McDs near the Hauptbahnhof some decades
ago.
Beer is still sold in McDs in Germany according to this website
http://www.trifter.com/Practical-Tra...he-World.35517
No sign of McKroket.
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >[]
>> >> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
>> >> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
>> >> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
>> >> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
>> >> and supermarket trolleys.
>> >
>> >Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
>> >a bit of a let down?
>>
>> compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
>
>Do they?
They did the last time I was in Koln McDs near the Hauptbahnhof some decades
ago.
Beer is still sold in McDs in Germany according to this website
http://www.trifter.com/Practical-Tra...he-World.35517
No sign of McKroket.
--
Martin
Aug 5th 2007, 8:45 pm
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> By the way: A patriotic US American would also never enter a shop
> called "Laden". CIA could be observing this action and accuse him
> for sympathizing with terrorists.
Yes, but only if the owner says "Ich bin Laden."
Pete
who finally thought of a German joke
> called "Laden". CIA could be observing this action and accuse him
> for sympathizing with terrorists.
Yes, but only if the owner says "Ich bin Laden."
Pete
who finally thought of a German joke
Aug 5th 2007, 9:04 pm
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:23:31 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >[]
> >> >> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> >> >> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
> >> >> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> >> >> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> >> >> and supermarket trolleys.
> >> >
> >> >Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
> >> >a bit of a let down?
> >>
> >> compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
> >
> >Do they?
>
> They did the last time I was in Koln McDs near the Hauptbahnhof some decades
> ago.
I'm sure they still do. I just wouldn't know!
I think I only had an espresso at the station when I as there in March!
Which is terrible, I'd usually have a curry wurst or something!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:23:31 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >[]
> >> >> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
> >> >> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
> >> >> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
> >> >> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
> >> >> and supermarket trolleys.
> >> >
> >> >Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
> >> >a bit of a let down?
> >>
> >> compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
> >
> >Do they?
>
> They did the last time I was in Koln McDs near the Hauptbahnhof some decades
> ago.
I'm sure they still do. I just wouldn't know!
I think I only had an espresso at the station when I as there in March!
Which is terrible, I'd usually have a curry wurst or something!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 5th 2007, 9:06 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:04:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:23:31 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >[]
>> >> >> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
>> >> >> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
>> >> >> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
>> >> >> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
>> >> >> and supermarket trolleys.
>> >> >
>> >> >Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
>> >> >a bit of a let down?
>> >>
>> >> compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
>> >
>> >Do they?
>>
>> They did the last time I was in Koln McDs near the Hauptbahnhof some decades
>> ago.
>
>I'm sure they still do. I just wouldn't know!
>
>I think I only had an espresso at the station when I as there in March!
>Which is terrible, I'd usually have a curry wurst or something!
There used to be a good yugo candlelit restro nearby.
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:23:31 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:07:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >[]
>> >> >> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
>> >> >> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
>> >> >> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
>> >> >> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
>> >> >> and supermarket trolleys.
>> >> >
>> >> >Probably not the best time to add that I found Beethoven's house in Bonn
>> >> >a bit of a let down?
>> >>
>> >> compensated by finding that McDs sell large beers?
>> >
>> >Do they?
>>
>> They did the last time I was in Koln McDs near the Hauptbahnhof some decades
>> ago.
>
>I'm sure they still do. I just wouldn't know!
>
>I think I only had an espresso at the station when I as there in March!
>Which is terrible, I'd usually have a curry wurst or something!
There used to be a good yugo candlelit restro nearby.
--
Martin
Aug 5th 2007, 9:14 pm
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:04:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> They did the last time I was in Koln McDs near the Hauptbahnhof some
> >> decades ago.
> >
> >I'm sure they still do. I just wouldn't know!
> >
> >I think I only had an espresso at the station when I as there in March!
> >Which is terrible, I'd usually have a curry wurst or something!
>
> There used to be a good yugo candlelit restro nearby.
It's a bit of a building site at the moment, or was, on one side. I
think I'd had raw pork and cooked horse at a restaurant a few minutes
walk away before my recent visit to the station!
Oh, and the hum came back with a vengeance along with a nice fresh
breeze about 10 minutes ago... Gone now though.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:04:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> They did the last time I was in Koln McDs near the Hauptbahnhof some
> >> decades ago.
> >
> >I'm sure they still do. I just wouldn't know!
> >
> >I think I only had an espresso at the station when I as there in March!
> >Which is terrible, I'd usually have a curry wurst or something!
>
> There used to be a good yugo candlelit restro nearby.
It's a bit of a building site at the moment, or was, on one side. I
think I'd had raw pork and cooked horse at a restaurant a few minutes
walk away before my recent visit to the station!
Oh, and the hum came back with a vengeance along with a nice fresh
breeze about 10 minutes ago... Gone now though.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 6th 2007, 4:49 am
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
"erilar" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
viestiss�:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
>> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
>> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
>> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
>> and supermarket trolleys.
>
> Visiting Germany and eating at McDonalds in the first place is REALLY
> stupid!!
>
Visiting Germany is stupid?
viestiss�:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You visit the land of Luther and D�rer, Einstein and Leibnitz, Bach and
>> Beethoven, Goethe and Schiller, Thomas Mann and Heinrich B�ll, the land
>> that was central to the most important historical events of the 20th
>> century, and all you can twitter on about is the ketchup at McDonalds
>> and supermarket trolleys.
>
> Visiting Germany and eating at McDonalds in the first place is REALLY
> stupid!!
>
Visiting Germany is stupid?
Aug 6th 2007, 6:56 am
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
"Runge3" <[email protected]> wrote
> hahahaha that martin, how funny !
<Runge> Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin
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> hahahaha that martin, how funny !
<Runge> Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin Martin
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Aug 6th 2007, 9:19 am
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Re: Germany Travel Tips
Am Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:00:03 -0700 schrieb trav:
> Restaurants and Bars - You do not get water for free, you have to pay
> for it.
And if you order the water at a brewery-pub, expect the waiter to say: "Wir
sind hier im Brauhaus, nicht im Gew�chshaus" (We are in a brewry-house, not
in a greenhouse).
SCNR,
Frank
> Restaurants and Bars - You do not get water for free, you have to pay
> for it.
And if you order the water at a brewery-pub, expect the waiter to say: "Wir
sind hier im Brauhaus, nicht im Gew�chshaus" (We are in a brewry-house, not
in a greenhouse).
SCNR,
Frank